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Mangini moving closer to termination

The good news is that, unlikely a year ago, Eric Mangini won’t be fired the day after the regular season ends.

The bad news is that it could happen on Tuesday.

Jay Glazer of FOX reports that the first-year Browns coach will meet with first-week Browns president Mike Holmgren on Tuesday.  If Mangini is unable to sway Holmgren, Mangini will be relieved of his duties.

If that’s what happens, it’ll be the first time a guy has been fired as an NFL head coach in consecutive years since 1998-99, when Ray Rhodes was fired by the Eagles and then dumped by the Packers.

At this point, Mangini’s only hope might be to fire his agent and hire Bob LaMonte.

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  1. GeniusJoe says: Jan 3, 2010 5:37 PM

    This is a BS story. There are NO reports from anyone that Holgrem is leaning toward firing anyone. Why would he?
    -He can cite the 4 wins in a row as a reason to keep Mangini another year.
    -If they keep winning it makes his job easy.
    -If they struggle he can fire people later and claim he inherited them.
    Only an idiot would report a rumor as if it was fact.

  2. elways_jock says: Jan 3, 2010 5:38 PM

    mangini = ray rhodes .. the end.

  3. TheBigOldDog says: Jan 3, 2010 5:39 PM

    How much money has Mangini made over the last few years for not working? Anybody know?
    Did the Jets have to payout his whole contract or was it offset by what he made with the Browns? I assume the Browns is on the hook for the remained of his contract though right?
    Either way, he’s made a lot of money over the last 2 years.

  4. HAILSKINS says: Jan 3, 2010 5:39 PM

    Man this guys career has tanked fast. Wasnt he being called a genius a few years back?

  5. MackNova says: Jan 3, 2010 5:41 PM

    Having won 4 straight games with the worst QB play in the NFL is impressive. Shame he’ll get fired, but he digs his own grave with how he treats media and fans so distantly.

  6. blmonroe12 says: Jan 3, 2010 5:44 PM

    Mangini has managed to burn every bridge he ever built.. I think he’s going to have a lot of trouble finding a job after the reputation he’s built..

  7. Larry David says: Jan 3, 2010 5:45 PM

    As a Browns fan, I thought Mangini was a terrible hire. However, now that you gave the guy a 4 year contract and the team seems to be improving with multiple players saying they want Mangini back, I think you have to give the guy at least another year. Holmgren will end up coaching the team in a few years anyway.

  8. DB26 says: Jan 3, 2010 5:47 PM

    The team played 6 straight as hard as they could (fluke win by Detroit on the last second touch foul called), a great showing against the hottest team in the NFL, and 4 wins straight following that, atleast 1, maybe 2 knocking teams from the playoffs. All that with the likes of Quinn/Anderson (both terrible), a 6th round pick RB, a UFL RB, a sorry excuse of a right line, 4 overachieving practice squad players, a not so great secondary, not a top tier DL or LB core, and after losing Rogers, and ridding themselves of Edwards.
    Sound like Mangini turned a turd to gold…. Wouldn’t you say, Florio? What is your rebuttle? Kokinis? The guy was too scared to do his job right and fu(ked up big FA visits, more than 1 to be honest. He had no business being GM.
    Oh, the handling of the QB’s? Yep, cause one of them was good and really took the bull by the horns, right? Yep, you got me…. Harrison being inactive! What? What is that you see? A RB now with a work ethic and capable of blocking in protection? Yes it is! Yes sir… The draft is it. He got:Coleman, Elam, Trusnik, Stuckey, Mack, and a 3rd rounder for the #5 (Sanchez) and Edwards! GIMME GIMME GIMME. The only place this guy messed up was taking Veikune. Robiskie will become a player. MoMass is. He should have selected Loadholt in MM spot, then MM in Veikune spot.
    One thing you can put on his back for sure….. What a dumb ass for getting Matt Roth, moving Bowens to the inside, bringing up Moore and Benard, signing Ventrone and Castanzo on specials, and making Furrey a Safety. Guys a moron. All “Experts” picked them @ 2-14. So, looks like he improved, even from last season.

  9. braindead says: Jan 3, 2010 5:56 PM

    How in the hell can Florio say any of this? It’s pure guessing. He has no freakin idea what will happen to Mangini. Asshole……

  10. Philly is Full of Fags aka ErieRat says: Jan 3, 2010 5:59 PM

    Since this site just throws out crap, biased speculation and rumors, I heard that the steelers will be playing one home game next year in Wheeling, and two the following year. A publicity move since most of their fans are hillbilly kinlovers and one for the thumb was really the motto when they won the sixth superbow.

  11. Audient says: Jan 3, 2010 6:00 PM

    I just don’t see how Holmgren fires a guy who finished the season on a four game winning streak, including beating the Super Bowl champions with a bunch of no name players. Yeah, if Holmgren wants to bring in his own guys, I get it, but if he fires Mangini, it won’t be because Mangini needed to be fired; it will be because Holmgren wanted his own man. And if Mangini is let go, there are a lot of teams who’d be wise to pick him up.

  12. LJ says: Jan 3, 2010 6:00 PM

    Right on DB26!

  13. FireJerryJones says: Jan 3, 2010 6:00 PM

    Must be his halitosis. Couldn’t be his poor communication skills.
    On the plus side, he left them with 10 picks nexy year… and his poor record has them drafting around # 6…

  14. bigtrav425 says: Jan 3, 2010 6:01 PM

    DB26 ur crazy! i need what ur smoking!!…Im a Browns fan and a realist…Pittsburgh was reeling at the time,Oakland and KC are as bad as we are and Jacksonville look scared to play in the snow.Mangina needs to go! Bottom line the damage has already been done.He basically blew the last draft and missed out on some great Defensive players.He played Musical QB’s.Wouldn’t let Robiskie on the field hardly at all.He is to secretive with NO personality. I hope to hell he isnt here next yr! i wouldnt not mind keeping Ryan tho if at all possible he did a decent job for what he had to work with..With that being said i Do Not want Morningweg(sp?)or however u spell his name..Id take Maricciu(sp?)tho

  15. C-TownDawg24 says: Jan 3, 2010 6:01 PM

    it’s going to come down to the fact that holmgren has final say on all things football related. if mangini is willing to work under holmgren and do things his way, he’ll stay. but i don’t see that happening. both of them have big egos and too much pride to relinquish any power. holmgren will get one of his guys who will just want to coach, not run the whole organization, which is what mangini wants to do.

  16. shawnc16 says: Jan 3, 2010 6:02 PM

    GeniusJoe says:
    January 3, 2010 5:37 PM
    Only an idiot would report a rumor as if it was fact.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Do you realize you are on a rumors website?

  17. Ches says: Jan 3, 2010 6:14 PM

    Florio… you have officially turned into a sell-out sloppy reporter.
    I used to have faith in you and try to defend what you say. But this is just pathetic.

  18. aceman309 says: Jan 3, 2010 6:20 PM

    Mangini moving closer to termination????
    By beating the Steelers and winning his last 4 games????
    Florio I know you must be skipping around with glee, at Jay Glasers report that they are having a meeting, which obviously can only mean one thing. The day you have been living your life for, drooling in anticipation for, working extra hard to write all those smear stories for has finally arrived.
    The evil dark lord Mangini will finally be fired.
    A triumphant culmination of all your hopes, dreams and efforts this season
    All those Mangini hate and smear articles have finally paid off.
    I personally believe from my vantage point here in Cleveland , that Mangini will still be the Browns coach for at least another year, but I am probably wrong. I mean you are a professional journalist after all and me, just someone who follows the Browns.
    I hate to bum you out but, I didnt see any I hate Mangini signs or fans hanging and burning Mangini in effigy at the Cleveland Browns Stadium game this week or the last 4 weeks for that matter
    Maybe you had better write a new article quickly reminding everyone about how the evil mangini refused to name his starting QB before the season opener. and how the heartless one fined a poor, penniless player $1500 for a bottle of water.

  19. shugs19_27 says: Jan 3, 2010 6:27 PM

    Only an idiot would report a rumor as if it was fact.
    ————————-
    No, only an idiot would read a rumor off of a news site and assume it to be fact. Most sport cites are heavily involved in rumor.
    Please, don’t fire Mangini, he has proven his worth…. they were predicted to go 2-14 but did a bit better… Please don’t say it ain’t so Mike, say it ain’t so… The Browns are so used to losing it must be okay to do as poorly as the great Mangina has.

  20. Ice says: Jan 3, 2010 6:27 PM

    If Mangini ISN’T fired, your credibility will be in question Florio. Perhaps you should only report rumors that you hear instead of rumors that you make up on your own.

  21. i'm president charlie! says: Jan 3, 2010 6:37 PM

    Los Angeles Browns

  22. BrownsTown says: Jan 3, 2010 6:48 PM

    Look on the bright side. If Mangini is fired, he’ll be in the same place as the Steelers next weekend… home. Suck on that, Florio.

  23. Tecumseh says: Jan 3, 2010 7:01 PM

    i’m president charlie! says:
    January 3, 2010 6:37 PM
    Los Angeles Browns
    —————————————————-
    No chance. Try Los Angeles Vikings.

  24. jrg1263 says: Jan 3, 2010 7:14 PM

    Mangini is kept on as long as he surrenders the offense to a hand picked Holmgren coordinator running the West Coast offense.

  25. Browns_fan_in_therapy says: Jan 3, 2010 7:20 PM

    As a lifelong Browns fan, I can see Mangini getting fired, Holmgren bringing in his own guy, and the Browns regressing to a 2-14 season next year…
    Only in Cleveland.

  26. BOO3LEGS says: Jan 3, 2010 7:21 PM

    My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who said Jay Glazer is a dumb-a$$.

  27. GeniusJoe says: Jan 3, 2010 7:30 PM

    Stop it with the excuses. I don’t want to hear how the Steelers were on the downside. The Browns lost more players/starters to injury or trade than any other team…and still won.
    They won with a bunch of no name-nobodys.
    They won the last 4. The only coach that gets fired for winning is Shotenheimer.

  28. daffy87 says: Jan 3, 2010 7:33 PM

    Mangini has this team playing very tough, and very hardnose. During this 4 game win streak the Browns are averaging 225 rush yards per game…that is insane. If Mangini gets fired it is purely because he doesn’t fit the schemes that Holmgren brings. Holmgren runs a 4-3 defense and a west coast offense. Mangini currently doesn’t run either of those. So Holmgren will probably get rid of him and bring in guys who DO run systems Holmgren knows. Look out for Marty Morninwheg (sorry if I mispelled) to get the nod for head coach.

  29. Bongodog says: Jan 3, 2010 7:55 PM

    Florio is a jerk! Even if Mangini gets the boot, Florio has been making a lot out of nothing all season long to turn the tide against the coach. Who’s paying you Mike???

  30. tobago says: Jan 3, 2010 8:04 PM

    I guess Holmgren wants to start out with people he is more familiar with. Mangini simply started off on the wrong foot(qb contraversy, Jamal Lewis situation).

  31. cybertom says: Jan 3, 2010 8:14 PM

    Jerome Harrison didn’t dress for a couple games and never got an opportunity until Jamal was hurt. If it wasn’t for Jamals injury he would still be on the bench.
    Pulling Quinn after 2.5 games?
    Brian Robiski not dressing for several games?
    Passed on Matthews and Maualuga in the draft?
    George Kokinis?
    The Bus trip?
    Giving a ROOKIE Offensive Cooridnator and staff the reigns?
    Not letting Rob Ryan run the defense until late in the season?

  32. kelevra says: Jan 3, 2010 8:43 PM

    bottom line, the team is playing for this guy…a team that isn’t terribly talented.
    anyone who disputes the last 6 games of the season as being tough, hard fought football…and from a home team that you’d support and root for to win, is crazy.
    if you’re going to blame mangini for the failures this season, you need to credit him with the successes.
    no doubt, as dqwell jackson said, before i believed it(around midseason)
    paraphrased: this team has turned the corner, and from here on out, we’re only going to get better.
    i don’t care if everyone thinks he’s an a-hole, a weasel, someone who “burned all his bridges”….and whatever else negative people have to say about him.
    i honestly can’t think of another single person to contribute to the success of the team towards the stretch than mangini. he deserves another year.
    i hope he gets it.

  33. scooby says: Jan 3, 2010 8:44 PM

    ACMEMAN309… the guilty player that was fined $1701 was braylon edwards.. after being warned numerous times that if he continued to not pay incidentals he would be fined.. check out #5
    http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2009/12/eric_manginis_eventual_fate_sh.html
    shocking that news wasn’t broken here on this site..

  34. Dawgpound2009 says: Jan 3, 2010 8:46 PM

    Talk about damned if you do damned if you don’t!
    Keep Mangini and if he starts out next season slow, he will be gone. Fire him and you risk having Marty Morinweg, Sherman Lewis, Bill Callahan, Jim Mora (if let go) Ray Rhodes or Steve Mariucci as the coach. Not the most thrilling prospect in the world.
    If i were to venture a guess, I would guess he is going to survive. As much as I would love to see Ratgini go, the alternative selection might be worse.

  35. scooby says: Jan 3, 2010 8:53 PM

    cybertom.. way to be completely biased.. harrison admitted he wasn’t practicing hard in practice.. i guess a new coaching staff can see his potential if the player is jaking it..
    pulling quinn after 10 qtrs was the right thing to do.. he was playing horrible.. he wouldn’t throw downfield at all.. relying on his checkdowns.. which had every defense keying on our rb’s on swing passes..
    b. robiski has not deserved playing time.. he was the last rookie to sign.. missing training camp.. if he has any fire under his ass it’ll show next yr.. but if he comes in next yr and doesn’t give it his all.. he’ll be sitting on the bench again.. and i guess no coach has ever picked a bust b4.. at least he didn’t fck up his 1st round choice.. like our previous regime tried hard to trade our #3 pick for the #1 pick and take jemarcus russell.. wow.. i wonder if al davis will ever live that down?
    the george kokinis fiasco will be revealed over time.. i’ve heard all types of rumors that the local guys wont reveal.. but they said if what they’ve heard is true.. the browns had to get rid of him..
    btw.. i’m sure mangini walked up to ryan after week 12 and said.. ‘hey.. just do what you want.. i don’t care what happens on that side of the ball’ (since your so stupid.. i’ll let you know that last comment was dripping with sarcasm) and i thought florio had no clue..

  36. GoBrowns19 says: Jan 3, 2010 8:58 PM

    I guess I have more inside information than Florio. Fact is, Mangini is doing his press conference tomorrow at noon. He is meeting with Holmgren after, most likely to hear if he is staying or not. Holmgren is having presser at 3. That is all anyone outside the organization knows. Thank you. I will soon have a website called nonmadeupprofootballtalk.com

  37. brownout says: Jan 3, 2010 9:04 PM

    Excerpt from Don Banks “Snap Judgements” dated 01/03/10.
    “You get the sense that a four-game season-ending winning streak really might change the outlook for new Browns president Mike Holmgren in Cleveland. Holmgren is on record saying he doesn’t think a coaching change after one season is a fair move, but he hasn’t ruled one out either. But after seeing Cleveland respond with four consecutive victories to close out Eric Mangini’s first season at 5-11 — giving the Browns their first four-game win streak since 1994 — my guess is that Holmgren opts for patience and refuses to go for the quick hook. Especially since Browns owner Randy Lerner is still paying off sizable chunks of cash to former head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Phil Savage.
    The Browns still need to establish their long-term plan at quarterback, but the situation in Cleveland looks a lot brighter today than it did a month ago. The Browns have Holmgren in place, 11 picks in next April’s draft, and the confidence that comes from not losing in a month of NFL Sundays”.

  38. slipkid says: Jan 3, 2010 9:23 PM

    pardon me… they will be the LA Jaguars!

  39. DB26 says: Jan 3, 2010 11:28 PM

    @ BigTrav
    DB26 ur crazy! i need what ur smoking!!…Im a Browns fan and a realist…Pittsburgh was reeling at the time,Oakland and KC are as bad as we are and Jacksonville look scared to play in the snow.Mangina needs to go! Bottom line the damage has already been done.He basically blew the last draft and missed out on some great Defensive players.He played Musical QB’s.Wouldn’t let Robiskie on the field hardly at all.He is to secretive with NO personality. I hope to hell he isnt here next yr! i wouldnt not mind keeping Ryan tho if at all possible he did a decent job for what he had to work with..With that being said i Do Not want Morningweg(sp?)or however u spell his name..Id take Maricciu(sp?)tho
    Yep, nuttier than a fruitcake.
    A) Harrison, did not not practice hard and refused to block. Didn’t deserve to go in, regardless of talent. You have to earn it boss! INACTIVE made him realize it
    B)Robiskie never earned it. Play harder in practice and perform wherever the opportunity arises (see special teams)
    C) Piggsburgh – When was the last time we beat them? And they were missing who? Palo? So, we still be a great team, matter of fact the almost identical SB team
    D) KC – played Cincy to the wire, knocked Denver out
    E) Veikune doesn’t earn it
    Say what you want, he made all the right moves boss man. He deserves a shot as HC, nothing else

  40. cybertom says: Jan 4, 2010 12:18 AM

    SCOOBY,
    Does some research before you call anybody‚Äôs comments STUPID but your own. Do some research and you will find comments from NFL experts who agree that Ryan wasn’t in control of the defense the 1st half.
    Mangini the CONTROL FREAK had his hands in everything. The only reason anything improved was Kosar came in and gave the owner his take on what needed to be addressed.
    The only reason we found out that we had any talent in our young players at all is because of injuries to starters. There was no MASTER PLAN from Mangini he simply isn’t good at identifying talent.
    Talk about biased you must be in LOVE with Mangini. You made up an excuse for everything (although not very convincing).
    Holmgren said that he the entire organization must be 1000% behind a Quarterback if you are going to be successful. Did your boy stand behind anyone? Nope he changed QB’s like underwear.
    So you would pull your starting QB after 2.5 games into the season against some of the toughest defenses in the NFL?
    You think you can fairly judge a QB in the pathetic infantile offensive system Mangini and company put on the field?
    You must be a Derek Anderson supporter which says it all about your level of understanding of NFL football.

  41. scooby says: Jan 4, 2010 9:36 AM

    cyberstupid..
    i’ll believe anything an NFL expert says when i see it.. for the most part.. they guess just like you and i do.. mangini must be a control freak… the new york media said so..
    i’m not ‘in love’ with mangini.. i do.. however.. believe in the same ‘vision’ he has for winning football.. smart.. hard nosed players playing for one goal.. and that is to win.. not a bunch of me-first guys looking out for themselves.. mangini also grew up a browns fan.. he understands what browns fans want.. a tough, physical defense and a solid running game.. mangini made mistakes this year.. no doubt.. but the team didn’t quit on him.. like 90% of the teams in the league have.. they have a solid foundation that pretty much just needs some playmakers.. and this team can contend next year.. ideally with mangini at the helm…

  42. cybertom says: Jan 4, 2010 5:19 PM

    SCOOBY DOOBY RUDE,
    Your getting closer to having an adult dialog. Leave the insults completely out and what you write will be worth reading.
    Flaming someone over the web from the safety of your home is a cowardly act anyway.

  43. scooby says: Jan 6, 2010 1:24 AM

    cybertom.. way to be completely biased.. harrison admitted he wasn’t practicing hard in practice.. i guess a new coaching staff can see his potential if the player is jaking it..
    pulling quinn after 10 qtrs was the right thing to do.. he was playing horrible.. he wouldn’t throw downfield at all.. relying on his checkdowns.. which had every defense keying on our rb’s on swing passes..
    b. robiski has not deserved playing time.. he was the last rookie to sign.. missing training camp.. if he has any fire under his ass it’ll show next yr.. but if he comes in next yr and doesn’t give it his all.. he’ll be sitting on the bench again.. and i guess no coach has ever picked a bust b4.. at least he didn’t fck up his 1st round choice.. like our previous regime tried hard to trade our #3 pick for the #1 pick and take jemarcus russell.. wow.. i wonder if al davis will ever live that down?
    the george kokinis fiasco will be revealed over time.. i’ve heard all types of rumors that the local guys wont reveal.. but they said if what they’ve heard is true.. the browns had to get rid of him..
    btw.. i’m sure mangini walked up to ryan after week 12 and said.. ‘hey.. just do what you want.. i don’t care what happens on that side of the ball’ (since your so stupid.. i’ll let you know that last comment was dripping with sarcasm) and i thought florio had no clue..

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