Cops say arrest video of Jets fan was incomplete

Much has happened since we posted the video of the costliest Jets chant ever.

At least 400,000 people have watched the clip.  The New York Post ran a profile on the arrested man (Bill Carroll) and his girlfriend.  And now the San Diego police are talking.

“It had nothing to do with cheering, it had to do with the behavior not seen on the film,” Assistant Chief Bob Kanaski told the San Diego Union-Tribune.

Rick Chandler has already produced a better summary of it all than we could over at NBCSports.com’s Out of Bounds blog. 

Carroll, meanwhile, is wondering what could have been.  “They took something from me that I don’t think ever could be
replaced,” he said. 

At least Carroll has maintained the same optimism we’ve seen all over New York this week.  “They’re going to the Super Bowl, babe!”

66 responses to “Cops say arrest video of Jets fan was incomplete

  1. “They took something from me that I don’t think ever could be replaced,” he said.
    Not his rainbow socks with the individual toes?

  2. Almost like that video when the Eagles fans pummeled that jackass from the 49er game with snowballs he was begging for it..
    The ass.

  3. I wasn’t there, but there seemed to be a few Chargers fans, yelling at the cops saying he did nothing wrong. Kinda makes me believe the Jets fan when the surrounding opposing fans agree with him.

  4. lol, at police bs. Thats why the people around him were yelling he didn’t do anything, and others were giving his wife/gf their number (as witnesses I assume). Modern stadiums are filled with cameras, and if they can’t produce the “missing” footage, its safe to assume it is bs.

  5. I have been to several Charger games over the past few years, though I am not a Bolts fan and have seen this happen several times. Especially when the Raiders are in town (I’m not a Raider fan either). San Diego police target opposing team fans on a regular basis and I have personally seen them not only look the other way when Bolt fans start fights but also go after other fans who might not be doing nothing other then cheer their team.

  6. So an off duty cop finks on this guy. The Fink was a Charge-less fan who got pissed his team lost. What a BITCH! Typical Dolts Fan! Let me remind the Dolt fans: HA ha ha ha ha !!!!! You lost more than the game and you’ll see what I mean next year.

  7. The fans around him that didn’t know him, were cheering for another team than him, and were probably annoyed by him said he didn’t do anything.
    I’ll believe those guys

  8. The video is so frustrating because it appears the police are being overzealous – but you can’t ignore the fact that Powell is acting like an utter moron by resisting arrest. He only made his situation worse than it would’ve otherwise been. If he hadn’t been intoxicated there’s a chance they would’ve field-tested him and sent him back to his seat.
    The lesson here; if the police tell you to go with them, go with them. What an idiot.

  9. I saw the video. Several San Diego fans in the vicinity said the guy didn’t do anything. So I read the article thinking maybe he did something in another part of the stadium. Well, that wasn’t the case.
    An off-duty police officer texted security stating the fan was intoxicated and out of control. It seems there’s a difference of opinion as to what “out of control” means. On one hand you have an officer saying he was out of control. On the other hand, you have San Diego fans saying the guy didn’t do anythng.
    Seems security just took the word of the off duty officer. Did they observe from a distance for 5 minutes before approaching the guy? Did they at least try to have a conversation with the guy before making up their minds he was out of control?
    Had security taken a few minutes (barring violence) to determine the situation for themselves, the actions that resulted following the original incident may never have happened.

  10. PIGS> STAY OUT OF STADIUMS, YOU ARE THE REASON IT GETS ROWDIER THEN IT SHOULD. YOUR BULLIES AND SENSELESS IMBISULTS

  11. Of course the cops were going to say the video missed what the guy did wrong . Obviously though no one around him minded they all said he did nothing wrong. So why arrest the man and take him out of the game if he wasnt bothering anyone? If he didnt rob anyone or hurt anyone then theirs no reason to remove him.
    The cops probably say he was disturbing the peace. Ok but dont you have disturb people to disturb the peace. Like I said it seemed like in the video he wasnt disturbing anyone actually the opposite happened the people were defending him.
    Thats all cops do is make excuses for what they do wrong. The sad thing is people believe them because their cops. Alot have people have wrongly spent time in jail or payed fines because of it.

  12. “Rick Chandler has already produced a better summary of it all than we could over at NBCSports.com’s Out of Bounds blog.”
    No he didn’t, and don’t pimp him because he’s NBC. The cops “explain” that they arrested him for:
    1) Public intox, and
    2) Impeding an officer in his duties.
    As to #1, if they arrested all the intoxicated fans in the stands, all they’d have left is the guy with the John 3:16 sign. So that’s not working.
    As to #2, that’s a catch-all that means the cop doesn’t like you, which in this case means he refused to leave when the cop first asked him. Which still doesn’t address the question of why the cops were hassling him at all.
    So no, the article doesn’t address anything. So far I’m sticking with the homer cops arresting a visiting fan who was getting innocently boisterous. Hell, even the Chargers fans defended him.

  13. I got arrested at a bills game…why? trespassing since i didnt have my ticket stub. I INSISTED “officer i have season tickets” which i did. He replied that dont (bleepin) matter no stub, no game. Then i racked up a disorderly conduct on my way up the stairs, thru the concessions, and while sitting in jail for 4 hours in the stadium basement. What happened? Trespassing got dropped since well, there was no trespassing. As a result my lawyer fee was $2k for the disorderly. I WANT IT BACK PIGS, and so does this JETS FAN.

  14. Besides the fact the arresting officers don’t do any favors to the doughnut chomping image of cops, I thought they were pretty restrained. The guy was resisting arrest and they didn’t taze, pepper spray, or billy clubbed him. It certainly wasn’t a typical hood type of arrest, which probably would have ended up with the guy shot.

  15. Good Job SDPD!! Next time, you outta towners will think twice before opening your big ass mouths in SD.
    Heck, you dont see outta towners trash talking in Philly, Oakland, Pittsburgh without repracusions!!!
    Jucks the Fets

  16. Bwa Ha Ha hit on the head. Look, its simple. Really, really simple. You gonna talk smack to a cop? Fine. But don’t whining like bitch when he clocks you on the head with his obedience-maker. You wanna be a tough guy? Fine. Then don’t be crying later “..they took something from me that can never be replaced.” That’s something a woman says. Just STFU! Take it like a man.

  17. off duty cop?
    sounds like a selectively on duty and anonymous cop. if the full video doesnt back up the odc, let the accused confront him. without the odc having backup.

  18. Karma,
    What are “repracusions”? Kidding.
    Fact of the matter is that if he hadn’t resisted it wouldn’t have been so bad. The police did not handle the situation very well either.

  19. Is it me or are there a bunch of jackasses on this blog? Did the cops videotape this or someone else in the stands? If not taped by the cops how can they show the whole thing? Funny how we don’t see everything. Sort of like Rodney King. We don’t see what the a$$hole did before the cops appear. I don’t go to games so some idiot can yell and chant over and over in my ear. What about the group clapping when numb nuts is taken away. Too many tough guys on this site. Beer muscles. Watch COPS on TV. Do you think they make this sh*t up?

  20. “Almost like that video when the Eagles fans pummeled that jackass from the 49er game with snowballs he was begging for it..”
    I’m sure you lowbrows say that about rape victims, too.

  21. “The fans around him that didn’t know him”
    How do you know that they didn’t know him?
    Did it occur to you that there’s a really good chance that everyone around him were tree-hugging cop-haters, being from California and all?

  22. “An off-duty police officer texted security stating the fan was intoxicated and out of control. It seems there’s a difference of opinion as to what “out of control” means. On one hand you have an officer saying he was out of control. On the other hand, you have San Diego fans saying the guy didn’t do anythng.”
    Right. Whose opinion prevails in a situation like that? The cop’s, of course. Rightfully so.

  23. Also…
    “Seems security just took the word of the off duty officer.”
    Those were real cops. Not rent-a-cops.

  24. “Of course the cops were going to say the video missed what the guy did wrong . Obviously though no one around him minded they all said he did nothing wrong. So why arrest the man and take him out of the game if he wasnt bothering anyone?”
    “Anyone” includes more than just the people who were in the immediate area. All it takes is one complainant.

  25. “Funny how we don’t see everything. Sort of like Rodney King. We don’t see what the a$$hole did before the cops appear.”
    Welcome to the new age of lemmings that are so easily steered around by the nose by a media that has a vested interest in whipping them into a huge moronic frenzy. It’s not hard to not get your ass kicked by the cops.


  26. I love how it took four cops to “control” the “intoxicated” fan…. hit the weight room….

  27. “I love how it took four cops to “control” the “intoxicated” fan”
    Yeah I’m pretty sure that those pistols that you see says that one cop can control one asshole but that would have made just a big ol’ mess. Better to easily overpower him with numbers than to spray the crowd with his brains.

  28. …..and thats exactly why the video shows a chargers fan giving his number to the jets girl, i assume because he knew the cops were completely out of line…. ???

  29. “Right. Whose opinion prevails in a situation like that? The cop’s, of course. Rightfully so.”
    Right, because cops are always friendly, honest community servants who enforce the letter of the law. Douche.

  30. You can tell when you watch the video that there is a part cut off right before the cops get there.
    Not only that I think the cops were being nice. When he was resisting arrest they barely used any force when they could have used pressure points or mace or even tazed him.
    If he did nothing wrong it is not to argue with the cops the way the US is set up you will have your day in court you do not have the right to argue with the officer or it is considered resisting whether they erred or not.

  31. Dallas Ravens guy:
    Have you ever tried placing cuffs on someone much less someone resisting.
    You guys are complaining enough about how they did it how would of it looked if they would of just knocked him out to make putting the cuffs on easier.

  32. “…..and thats exactly why the video shows a chargers fan giving his number to the jets girl, i assume because he knew the cops were completely out of line…. ???”
    Or maybe he was trying to get laid.

  33. “Carroll said Sterling only asked him once and he refused to leave the stands because he didn’t want to miss the game and wasn’t misbehaving.”
    There ya go.

  34. Bills9951 – you are an idiot for resisting arrest and you readily admit you made your own situation worse. You weren’t asked to solve a Rubik’s Cube, you were asked for your ticket stub. Next time, hand them one.

  35. @karmathaitch
    little bitter are we? thats not going to get your team back in the playoffs so drop the bullshit, you know this guy did nothing your just frustrated because phillip rivers cant win the “big game”

  36. If you watch the video he isn’t resisting, what is happening is he is being pushed off balance in a number of different dirrections and he tightens up his arms to keep from going head first into the seat or ground. When he isn’t falling, he grabs his other hand behind his back. Kind of hard to do any resisting when 2 different cops have each arm and another one is pushing you another way.
    If he wasn’t under arrest or being detained, then he didn’t have to follow the cops up the stairs. He should have responded with the “Am I being detained?” question when they first approached him, and not spoke to them otherwise. Did they see him do anything that would cause them to detain him? The reports don’t indicate that they observed anything, they refer to a mythical “off duty officer” who reported him.

  37. “No, because it’s the law in every city in the US. Dumbass.”
    Um, there’s no “cops have unlimited power” law that I’m aware of. Check your Cracker-Jack law degree at the door, asshat.
    Though somehow I’m not surprised that Vox has a chubby for cops. I bet he sits in the dark with his police scanner and does terrible things to himself.

  38. “…too many tough guys on this site…”
    Uh….its called ProFootballTalk. This isn’t GirlScoutsofAmerica.com.

  39. “Um, there’s no “cops have unlimited power” law that I’m aware of.”
    Nobody said that they have unlimited power. That’s just your refusal to admit that I’m right. The police are endowed with the power to assess a given situation and once having done so, to enact whatever level of police action that they believe is needed to control the situation and enforce the law. This power is granted by the state, and by extension, the taxpayers. Alleged abuses are sorted out later, and not by some drunk assholes at a football game. I mention that last, obvious part because you seem like a guy that couldn’t pour piss out of a boot if the directions were printed on the heel.
    Don’t bother bowing up to me on a point of law ever again. You don’t have the chops. Obviously.
    I’m not surprised that you have a hardon for cops, convict. It’s not hard to spot the failed criminals in this thread.

  40. I’ve had a chance to calm down now, and I’ll approach this situation clearly and respectfully.
    If the person had brought “something” into the stadium, it was concealed or if he had injured someone in another area of the stadium , and returned to his seat, its possible something occurred. The whole thing with “He didnt do anything” was very noticeable, and I ‘d thank that guy – as the other people stood “silently as THEIR public rights are taken away as well” I mean, do people realize, a fellow citizen was just taken away – not informed of his arrest and he shouldve said, “Am I being detained” and yelled I am not resisting arrest! (loudly).
    I believe the Chargers Qualcomm Staff reserve the right to eject any customer that poses a threat verbally or physically – I think that is the only crime (fortunate people tape the police – AS THEY SHOULD).
    apologize for the earlier rant.

  41. cops are scumbags.
    cops abuse their powers.
    nothing new.
    Provide the evidence of what this guy did if they cant SUE the police.
    If they are dumb enough to admit an off duty txt’d it in, SUE the police sue the off duty and have the fbi investigate police abuse of powers.
    Rodney King was out of control too eh.

  42. “…too many tough guys on this site…”
    Uh….its called ProFootballTalk. This isn’t GirlScoutsofAmerica.com.
    Silverblue , you vistit, HellsAngels.com, don’t you?

  43. Yawn.
    Who knows what went occurred. I can’t blindly hate on the cops just because they are cops and I can’t blindly support the fan because he missed the rest of the game or because fans from the opposing team said he did nothing. I’m sure there would have been other fans who were more than happy to see him leave but they chose to be quiet.
    From the first part of the video though if the fan was acting like that throughout the game I can understand why he may have been removed. I’ve seen far too often where the over exuberant fan from the visiting team who needs to turn and cheer in the faces of the home crowd incessantly because their team is winning end up getting in a fight. To me his actions from that small clip could be construed as drunk and disorderly and if there is no issue why was it recorded in the first place?
    A personal rule of mine is when visiting other team’s facilities to cheer scores or big plays but don’t turn and rub it in the home crowds face. Savour the win and act like you’ve been there before.
    Also, whenever I have been detained by the police I act respectful which ends up with me continuing with what I am doing and not getting hauled off to jail. I understand there is an ego issue at times with the police but I also understand yelling at them, and resisting gets you no where.

  44. “They took something from me that I don’t think ever could be replaced,” he said.
    His virginity???

  45. The guy was arrested for being an asshole. You can be an asshole to a whole section of wimply San Diego fans, but you can’t be an asshole to cops.
    When the cops showed up, the only recourse this asshole (or any citizen approached by police) has is to do exactly what they say. If there’s a problem with what they are doing, you can always get a lawyer and fight them in civil court later.
    Never make the mistake of confrontational behavior (or assholism) towards a police officer. Trust me on this.

  46. To everyone out there ripping this guy, I have news for you. I had a San Diego police officer do the same thing to a friend of mine a few years back at a Padres game, “removing” him from his seats in handcuffs to “talk”, he was ejected. For my asking the officer the simple question of what he did wrong and where we could pick him up, I was given a pretty good beating, arrested and thrown in jail overnight. I posted my own 10% of a $5000 bail on a boatload of trumped up charges, they hoped an out-of-towner would plead out on, and then spent the next 2 years fighting them because I did NOTHING wrong. I am a life long Charger fan, but it seems like this guy got a bad cop, just like me. Good luck man, they are gonna try and take you over the coals. As for the guy at the end of the video, I bet you they either ejected him or arrested him, because that’s what they do. Hey Bill, if you are out there, drop me a line, sorry they got you as well, you had every right to cheer. It’s football, we pay to watch millionaires play a game.

  47. Good points Vox. But I have to disagree. I also think you might be a cop yourself just trying to stick up for your own kind. Nothing wrong with that.
    The fan should be allowed to cheer for his team. End of discussion. There is always a chance of a riot or brawl breaking out no matter what sporting event you are at.
    What if there were 50 Chargers fans sitting around 1 Jets fan and all those Chargers fans were cheering “CHARGERS, CHARGERS, CHARGERS!!”? Would those 50 Chargers fans be told to shut up and sit down (or get thrown out) by the cops because there is a chance that one Jets fan will get pissed off and start a fight with one of them? No chance in hell that would ever happen.
    And what do you think would happen if that solo Jets fan went to the cops and said “Hey can you tell these 50 Chargers fans to be quiet so I can watch the game in peace? They are starting to get on my nerves.” That one Jets fan would be told to go pound sand and given the old “Hey, that is their right as a paying ticketholder to cheer for their team” by the cops.
    That guy was treated unfairly by those cops as they would never do that to a home team fan who was cheering for their team. Fans of visiting squads are always second class citizens at sporting events, but it should never escalate to that level.

  48. # .VoxVeritas says: January 21, 2010 8:57 PM
    “Almost like that video when the Eagles fans pummeled that jackass from the 49er game with snowballs he was begging for it..”
    I’m sure you lowbrows say that about rape victims, too.
    ————
    In Texas, most rape victims are steers – so they thankfully for y’all don’t have rights in court.

  49. # .VoxVeritas says: January 21, 2010 9:46 PM
    Yeah I’m pretty sure that those pistols that you see says that one cop can control one asshole but that would have made just a big ol’ mess. Better to easily overpower him with numbers than to spray the crowd with his brains.
    ——————–
    Lines like these are why you remain a virgin, Julio.

  50. .VoxVeritas says: January 21, 2010 10:24 PM
    “…..and thats exactly why the video shows a chargers fan giving his number to the jets girl, i assume because he knew the cops were completely out of line…. ???”
    Or maybe he was trying to get laid.
    —————-
    Vox would know. He’s been trying to get laid unsuccessfully for more than 30 years.

  51. Jets yodeler gets slapped by woman in wheelchair for chanting JETS, off-duty cop sees this and txts security, JETS yodeler refuses to leave…you saw the rest. the end.

  52. My question is why didn’t the ON DUTY SECURITY/COPS notice the guy was a problem BEFORE the OFF DUTY cop sent the text message?

  53. At first, I thought that it was just a few upset Cops getting revenge on a Jet Fan, but after reading several blogs, it turns out that this is not an isolated incident.
    The SDPD has a very serious problem in their ranks. They are very inept at providing security at the game, what about the unprotected citizens of San Diego?
    Should the Chargers terminate using the SDPD at games and replace them with CHP?
    As for the off duty Cop and the arresting Cops, their two week unpaid suspension should give them time to review their actions.

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