Comments on: Favre can't claim he's "going out on top"

By: NightTrainNeckTie

NightTrainNeckTie — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:03:44 +0000

He’s not going out on Top because his terrible interception ultimately cost the Vikings a shot at the Super Bowl.
Let’s say he doesn’t throw that pass and Longwell misses the field goal and the Saint’s win in OT. I could see a point being made that at 40 he had statistically one of his best seasons and he lead his team to an overtime away from a Super Bowl, that can be considered going out on top….kinda. But instead he had a great season statistically(nothing new there), he toughed it through a physical ass kicking(nothing new there) only to make a terrible choice and do what HE ALWAYS DOES and that is lose it with an awful pick(nothing new there).
That small yet extremely significant detail changes everything!

By: Deb

Deb — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:53:26 +0000

@JoeBobRayFrank …
Most debates involve a lot of unsubstantiated opinions and emotions. I prefer the scientific method where a hypothesis is developed then tested against the facts. For example:
Hypothesis: JoeBobRayFrank is an idiot.
Fact #1: He can’t decide on his own name. Clearly when asked to choose a user name, he was overwhelmed, so he just typed all the names he could think of.
Fact #2: He is not from the South. Science has proven that the intelligence of people
not from the South is somewhere between that of a lobster and a fruit fly. And they have no manners at all. Their knuckles still drag the ground. Why, it’s amazing how good Southern boys like Brett Favre and Peyton (JoeBobRayFrank can’t spell either) Manning tolerate living among them during the season. Fortunately Southern quarterback Dree Brees gets to live in New Orleans.
Wow. Three of the four quarterbacks in the championship games were Southerners.
Guess boys from the other regions are too dumb to play QB.
At least that’s what I’d think if I were given to idiotic stereotypes like JoeBobRayFrank. But since I’m not an idiot, I realize there are a lot of nice, smart, well-mannered, non-knuckle-dragging people out there from other areas.
But JoeBobRayFrank isn’t one of them.

By: JoeBobRayFrank

JoeBobRayFrank — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:00:47 +0000

Most debates about football, such as the current discussion around Brett Favre, involve a lot of unsubstantiated opinions and emotions. Personally, I prefer the scientific method where a hypothesis is developed and then tested against the facts. For example:
Hypothesis: Brett Favre is a dumb quarterback
Fact #1:
He can’t spell his own name. Clearly when Brett filled out his initial
NFL players union card he accidentally swapped the “v” and the “r” in
his name. And we all know what a pain it is to have something like this
changed with the union administration. Having his name spelled as if it
were pronounced FAVOR has been a constant source of embarrassment for him and his family over the last two decades.
Fact #2
He is from the South. Science has proven that the intelligence of people
from the South is somewhere between a crocodile and a fruit bat. ‘Nuff
said.
Fact #3
He won’t stop playing quarterback. In order to ensure his legacy in
football, Brett’s approach is to never stop playing. So in 200 years
when people debate the greatest quarterback of all time, they can
actually watch Brett play and judge for themselves. The flaw in his
logic is that there is a clause in the players union contract that
states, and I quote, “gunslingers over 150 years old are ineligible for health benefits.” Too bad.
Fact #4
He is directionally challenged. Brett recently stated that he was on
top. But clearly it was the New Orleans defensive line that was on
top…of him…making him on bottom. Oh, and there are also two other
guys on top named Payton and Drew making Brett almost on top.
Fact #5
On likely his last play (assuming he does finally stop playing
quarterback), he be dumb. When faced with the options of 1) limping
along for another 4-5 yards and then trying a 50 yard field goal 2)
throwing the ball to the WIDE OPEN Bernard Berrian and then trying a 45 yard field goal, and 3) closing his eyes and hurling the ball to the
center of the field and praying….he chose option 3. That be dumb. Case
closed.

By: joe mama

joe mama — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:26:03 +0000

heck i thought the officials were trying to help out favray and the purples. they wanted him to win to help solidify his reputation, but the last image will be his school yard interception. ha ha no hero here just a yo-yo jerking around.

By: TheBaySay

TheBaySay — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:03:21 +0000

Ink whatever and FancyNanc, you have got to be kidding. What color is the sky in your world. Wait, I know – purple. Saints were penalized 56 more yards than the Vikes. Weird way to “give” them the game. You know what? The Vikes probably were the better team. You know what else? The better team doesn’t always win. You lost three fumbles. You threw two interceptions. You had twelve men in an offensive huddle AFTER YOUR OWN TIME OUT! You lost, and you have no reason or grounds for crying about it. We now return you to your twilight zone…

By: Augie

Augie — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:19:20 +0000

Brett Favre going out on top? Not even close. John Elway went out on top

By: FancyNanc

FancyNanc — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:22:33 +0000

I totally agree with what “inkpahduhtah” says. Those Refs “threw” that game Sunday so that the Saints could win!! Favre will go out on top no matter what anyone says! Favre got the Hell beat out of him (unethically and unfairly) and none of the Refs called any fouls against the Saints…those were all “Late hits” that should have been called. It’s too bad the Refs had to throw the game for the Saints. The reason the Vikes kept “dropping” the ball was because they were getting so emotional about the way the Refs were “throwing” the game for the Saints. Football is an emotional game as well as a physical game. The Saints didn’t win that game, the Vikes did!! And I don’t care what you say about Brett Favre, HE WILL GO OUT ON TOP, JUST LIKE HE SAID HE WILL!!!!

By: inkpahduhtah

inkpahduhtah — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:40:05 +0000

The media and replay officials declared the Saints winners after the Saints kicked a 40 yd field goal in suden death overtime. We actually thought the Saints won, when it was over. However the next day, we replayed the entire game and saw clearly that the Vikings actually outplayed the Saints and won this game. We noted that the replay judges blatantly lied in favor of the Saints…twice. The commentator’s obviously favored the Saints and assisted the lying replay judges. If you taped the game and replay the questioned calls…the false reception is clearly a fumble picked up off the turf. Then, earlier, the ball clearly came loose and was called a completion. If you watch the replay of this game you’ll see that the Saint’s win is a result of replay judge lies….and that these lies denied Favre and the Vike’s their true destiny. The Saint’s are a pathetic team…to be so proud of the way replay officials had to lie for them to get them to the Super Bowl. As far as I’m concerned lying doesn’t make the Saints winners….the Viking’s won this one, and I give them credit for their win. Ink

By: Tompadre

Tompadre — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:02:41 +0000

BigEasy33 says:
January 25, 2010 1:48 PM
C’mon Florio where’s the clips from the Dome with Brett doing “Pants on the Ground”….that shit isn’t so funny now….cause he probably can’t even dress himself after getting DESTROYED yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes he was destroyed…by all of those cheap late hits by the Saints. Classy! Kind of always liked the Saints, but that display made me lose a lot of respect for them. Still want them to beat Indy & the Forhead though.
Ambrose -
Seriously man, has anyone explained the game of football to you? If the type of hit McCrary put on Favre happened 100 times it would be flagged 100 times. Favre made no effort or motion to block on the play. Favre was not in the path between McCrary and the ball carrier (Harvin). McCrary took three steps before hitting Favre who clearly didn’t have the ball. Pull your head out and actually watch what happens in a game.
Oh, and how’s that team of yours winning all those championships when both OTs, both CBs, a WR & a LB (all key contributers, not to mention LT & CB being 3 of the 5 most important positions on the field) well on the wrong side of 30 and most with a history of injuries?

By: Ross

Ross — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:02:34 +0000

To his adoring fans the interceptions and other mental lapses that always end his season are worth it because of the excitement level. They get addicted to the thrill. He did play at a very high level, but it came to nothing once again. The odds of him doing it again next year at age 41 are slim. He should walk away while he can do it without crutches.

By: Mike R.

Mike R. — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:17:19 +0000

As a Bears fan I’ve never quite understood the hatred of Favre. Sure he has a huge ego, but most superstar athletes do. He left Green Bay under less than ideal circumstances but he won a Super Bowl and the Packers are still a contender without him.
Favre got the living hell beat out of him in the NFC Championship game but he was still slinging it at the end, trying to make a play. It’s not his fault that Percy Harvin and Adrian Peterson couldn’t hold on to the ball or that Brad Childress sent too many men onto the field at the most crucial moment of the game. If Favre runs an extra 5 yards and Ryan Longwell hooks a 46 yard field goal setting up overtime would Favre be going out as a failure ? I don’t think so. He’s one of the top 4 or 5 QBs of all time he doesn’t have a thing to prove. At 40 years old I’d take him over any one of the parade of clowns at QB that I’ve witnessed over the past 15 years in Chicago

By: doe22us

doe22us — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:27:00 +0000

Florio try doing this at age 40 and then see who is on top, i have been on this site for a while but that was the worst vindictive piece of assesement you have had well if you take out your personal grudge against Mike Vick. Favre is indeed a baller, Not a big fan of his but appreciate greatness.

By: doe22us

doe22us — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:16:14 +0000

By: Wick

Wick — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:37:00 +0000

Besides Bettis and Elway, Michael Strahan is another high profile Hall of Famer who also went out on top.
As for Favre, he deserves one hell of a lot of credit. He galvanized that locker room and his ’09 performance was jaw-dropping for a player of any age. His heart was also off the charts. The guy STILL plays like a kid – and that is meant in a very positive way.
It’s a damned shame his last throw had to go down like it did – but mad respect for Favre for what he brought to the fight. Not even a Vikes fan — but one has to acknowledge and give credit where due. In this instance, Favre deserves a shitload of credit — very stellar performance on balance over the course of the 2009 season.

By: Krashie21

Krashie21 — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:14:35 +0000

Deb….
What’s Beer Cheese Soup’s issue with the Steelers?

By: shazard01

shazard01 — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:06:23 +0000

I would say he’s going out on top “Top of his game” Until this last game I don’t think he’s ever looked better. I think Peyton is the best QB and he has choked in alot of playoff games……Otherwise the Colts would have more than 1 recent superbowl…..

By: Deb

Deb — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:58:11 +0000

@Krashie2010 …
Wow!
Must admit I’ve been fawning over Brett, too, because I think he’s gutsy and I like watching him play. But my heart and everything else belongs to the Steelers so you just vaulted to the top of my PFT hit parade
If you happen to run into a Pack fan named Beer Cheese Soup, whose favorite pasttime is ranting about Steelers and asterisks, please give him hell.

By: xyzzy409

xyzzy409 — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:08:33 +0000

>#1 Career Wins
>#1 Career Completions
>#1 Career Touchdown Passes
>#1 Career Passing Yard
>I think that’s what he means by going out on top.
You forgot “most consecutive starts.” Because each of the #1′s that you listed are Favre’s only because he’s been playing for so long. Here’s another that you forgot:
#1 Career Interceptions

By: Pervy Harvin

Pervy Harvin — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:55:10 +0000

Krashie2010 says: Along with the Karma of running up the score against Dallas and the post-season history of the Vi-Queens, which has all but doomed any chance of Minny ever seeing a championship.
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Lay off the weed homer, that points on Dallas Karma holds no water. Glad you are elated,sounds like you have a fascinating life living in mom’s garage! LOL LOL

By: Gunther69

Gunther69 — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:47:18 +0000

Who’s the bald, tranny on ESPN that’s on Favre’s nuts? I recall he wasn’t that good of a wr. Now he knows everything. Typical media. Strap it up and see if you’d be perfect.

By: Pervy Harvin

Pervy Harvin — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:46:52 +0000

bluestree- LMAO Nice try rabbit nuts,but red headed step kids are known for getting beat on. We all know who hands out the beat downs on PFT! That is me, feel blessed that you were out of my line of fire this season! You just never said much worth arguing about! LOL try harder next year eh? That is if I’m still alive.Handing the Saints the title gave me a devestating drinking problem.

By: Krashie2010

Krashie2010 — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:36:43 +0000

Deb…….
THANKS!!!!!
I got in here because of all of the preposterous fawning over Brett Favre. Is/was he a great quarterback? Yes. Best ever? No.
And people need to be realistic about his legacy.
I just found it silly to think anyone could put an asterisk next to a Steelers win.
How is that even possible based on the talent that team had/has? From trophies 1 thru 6, Pittsburgh is the flagship franchise of the entire league.
As a Cowboys fan, my team may be “America’s Team”……but the Steelers, more so than any other franchise, represent what makes the NFL great.

By: bluestree

bluestree — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:24:40 +0000

hotchick says:
January 25, 2010 3:52 PM
The use of the going out on top phrase without winning it all shows first off that winning it all was not the most important thing to him. Individual achievements matter more. So if you want to salute a guy for going out on top because of his career accomplishments have at it.
Meanwhile, others will see pretty clearly that no matter how impressive all his records are, to focus on those as the reason to claim to be going out on top, in the immediate shadow of your TEAM losing a game that means they did NOT go out on top, is proof that the man is a selfish prima-dona.
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Very insightful. I watched it live and he was definately focusing on himself. But to be fair, he was responding to a question about coming back, which somewhat framed his response. A lot of guys would have blown the retirement questions off after losing such a huge game, and Brett always runs off at the mouth when the mic is on. (I can only imagine what a drag it would be to have him show up at a karaoke bar. No one else would get a song in edgewise.) Bottom line is with Brett, it’s always about Brett.
@tpm58; Pervy is our little red headed stepchild and we like him the way he is. He’s like a boundary marker. Please don’t run him off.

By: Krashie2010

Krashie2010 — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:15:53 +0000

snh7997 said:
#1 Career Wins
#1 Career Completions
#1 Career Touchdown Passes
#1 Career Passing Yard
You also forgot…….
#1 Career INTs in the regular season
#1 Career INTs in the playoffs
Most of the records you cite are due to his longevity and the fact he’s been in the West Coast Offense his entire career.
The INTs are why he’s NOT going out on top.
It’s over. His legacy is tarnished forever.
No matter what Florio, Peter King and Rich Eisen say, or write……..Favre’s legacy will always be of a guy who couldn’t get it done when it counted.

By: snh7997

snh7997 — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:05:03 +0000

#1 Career Wins
#1 Career Completions
#1 Career Touchdown Passes
#1 Career Passing Yard
I think that’s what he means by going out on top.

By: Krashie2010

Krashie2010 — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:03:27 +0000

Pervy……..
You need to stop looking to Florio, Rich Eisen and Peter King as the guiding lights in your life.
There’s no doubt that Mr. Noodle’s CFL moment hurt, but it was the overrated poster-boy for Vicodin that cost you the game with yet another stupid INT when it mattered most (See: Brett’s last 6 trips to the post-season).
Along with the Karma of running up the score against Dallas and the post-season history of the Vi-Queens, which has all but doomed any chance of Minny ever seeing a championship.
Maybe after the move to L.A.?????
HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!!
20-hours later and I’m still smiling and laughing at the Vi-Queens…….

By: Deb

Deb — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:02:40 +0000

Krashie2010 says:
January 25, 2010 5:15 PM
Who ever put an asterisk next to a Steelers’ Super Bowl win? (I’m a Cowboys fan and not even I would say that —— in fact, you could almost put one next to SBXXX for O’Donnell)……
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You are a football fan of uncommon intelligence and logic, a rational thinker who doesn’t let personal biases cloud your judgment.
How on earth did you get in here?

By: JimmySmith

JimmySmith — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:51:49 +0000

To all the Viking fans talking big time trash all season, this is what you call Karma. Favre had his Superbowl when he played the Packers, so what, two regular season wins and to what end? No Superbowl, no glory, throw your two existing QB’s under the bus, extend the contract of one of the dumbest Son of bitches in all the pro football coaching ranks and cement your franchise in the history of the NFL as the biggest chokers.
Gotta love it, now complain about the refs all off season.

By: slipkid

slipkid — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:38:19 +0000

speaking of repeated choking… a lot of people think it all started with mcnabb!
anyone remember dallas from 1978-1985? and how the rams owned them?
danny white got a lot of the blame but roger the dodger gave one game away and jackie smith still is reviled…
and then there was dallas from 1966-1970.

By: slipkid

slipkid — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:30:04 +0000

to favre, a definition: repeatedly throw a game away at the end in vain effort to re-achieve past lost glory