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Peyton passed when Colts' coaches called runs

During the regular season, Vikings coach Brad Childress and quarterback Brett Favre butted heads over Favre’s tendency to audible to pass plays when Childress wanted to run. Colts quarterback Peyton Manning said after the AFC Championship Game that he does the same thing — but the Colts’ coaches don’t mind.

Explaining how the Colts got hot after a cold start, Manning said it was largely a matter of his decision to pass even when offensive coordinator Tom Moore had called a run.

“We were aggressive the first series of the second half. I was changing every play. Tom was calling some run plays. I just kind of got hot,” Manning said, per Nancy Gay of FanHouse, “and changed it.”

Manning, however, said Moore just wants results, and that the Colts’ coaches are fine with giving the quarterback the freedom to run the plays he wants.

Said Manning of what Moore told him about his audibles, “Tom, as he does, said ‘Hey, you’re hot — let’s just keep it going.’”

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  1. Reptar says: Jan 25, 2010 10:47 AM

    I’m telling!

  2. Big Stretch says: Jan 25, 2010 10:48 AM

    Forget Favre…..Manning will be remembered as the G.O.A.T

  3. Turd Furguson says: Jan 25, 2010 10:49 AM

    Its cause manning is the actual coach. Not the half wit peons on the sideline holding bibles and praying to the almighty to have him win the game for them since god is a colts fan.

  4. Outburst78 says: Jan 25, 2010 10:51 AM

    I’d let my QB audible to whatever the hell he wanted whenever the hell he wanted. He’s the one on the field.
    He just damn well better make a positive play if he does…

  5. smiley says: Jan 25, 2010 10:52 AM

    Greatest pass of all time. Hail!!!!

  6. scrapdawg12 says: Jan 25, 2010 10:54 AM

    It’s Peyton Manning, he is god. Going down in history as the greatest QB in NFL history. He will set every record possible except most games maybe because Favre will never retire so that Peyton can’t pass him.

  7. amunoz78 says: Jan 25, 2010 10:54 AM

    So Tom Moore isn’t really an offensive coordinator…he’s an offensive consultant.

  8. pkrlvr says: Jan 25, 2010 10:54 AM

    If Favre said this everyone would talk about how he’s a diva and we’d have a 100 comments full of insults.

  9. Big Stretch says: Jan 25, 2010 10:55 AM

    The Colts coaches don’t care because Manning is not as likely as other QBs are to throw INTs. That and because Manning is the real OC in INDY.

  10. Hap says: Jan 25, 2010 10:55 AM

    Yeah, Peyton has EARNED the right to change the plays.
    Please tell me nobody’s challenging his right to do so.

  11. manginiwithcheese says: Jan 25, 2010 10:55 AM

    Trade him!

  12. Larry David says: Jan 25, 2010 10:55 AM

    I could coach the Colts and they’d still be going to the Superbowl. Hence, Manning is the real coach of the team. He was smart, they should have been throwing every down, they were the worst rushing offense going against the best rushing defense. That’s what did the Chargers in, they stayed with the run too long.

  13. dogma1 says: Jan 25, 2010 10:56 AM

    Manning is the coach, he can do whatever he wants.

  14. 4ever19 says: Jan 25, 2010 10:58 AM

    Not news. Peyton has the freedom to audible every time he comes to the line. Isn’t this why he is called the best?

  15. dlmcc0909 says: Jan 25, 2010 10:58 AM

    This is the one guy where I would think its ok for him to change the plays whenever he wants. Not because he is more talented than every other QB, he just has an incredible ability to read the defense. This guy will go down as the best to ever play the position.

  16. jtownflood says: Jan 25, 2010 10:59 AM

    I don’t know about anyone else but I get sick and tired about hearing Peyton Manning this Peyton Manning that. Yes the guy is good and the Colts wouldn’t be the Colts without him but let’s all stop the man crush for this guy.
    And if you ask me Peyton has no class. In the first half he was on the sidelines with that pouting look. He wouldn’t take off his helmet and just stood there with his arms folded. Then in the second half when things start going well he comes over on the sideline with that smirky grin that shows everyone I know I’m all that.

  17. B Eazy says: Jan 25, 2010 10:59 AM

    WELL BOYS WHAT DID I TELL YA. COLTS WIN. SO EVERYONE THAT PICKED THE JETS. WHY. NO REALLY WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. DID YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD WIN. NO YOU DIDNT. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    COLTS WIN BABY

  18. Krow says: Jan 25, 2010 11:00 AM

    Doesn’t every NFL QB call audibles?

  19. slipkid says: Jan 25, 2010 11:01 AM

    except when manning does it, it usually works.
    when favre does it… well u all saw the last pick…

  20. StevenM says: Jan 25, 2010 11:04 AM

    As a Jets fan, Manning is the greatest…ever.

  21. hsf09 says: Jan 25, 2010 11:06 AM

    Good for Peyton. He can do whatever the hell he wants, knowing the coach won’t even think about pulling him. I bet Brett wish he could say the same heh.

  22. Arias says: Jan 25, 2010 11:07 AM

    Is there any point in Tom Moore calling a play in the first place? I guess he has to do something to try and justify his salary.

  23. newcaymanS says: Jan 25, 2010 11:07 AM

    In the OLD days, QB’s called their OWN plays. Checking off to a pass is no big deal if you have the guy who can do it. Manning is obviously smart enough and talented enough to be one of those guys.

  24. milehiclown says: Jan 25, 2010 11:08 AM

    So glad the “greatest QB ever” is not Brady any longer. It has to be Manning, hands down.

  25. Kurt M. Weber says: Jan 25, 2010 11:08 AM

    Is this news?
    Everyone knows by now that Moore NEVER calls a particular play outright, and says “you must run this.” Peyton ALWAYS is free to change the play any time he wants if he thinks circmstances warrant.

  26. ChicagoJo says: Jan 25, 2010 11:08 AM

    I love this guy. Just goes to show how much respect everyone in the game has for him, no one in the world would second guess him for changing the play even if he threw a pick. I’d back Peyton’s call 100% of the time, there’s not a better play caller in the NFL.

  27. PFTiswhatitis says: Jan 25, 2010 11:09 AM

    I think Favre did that on his last pass of the game too. Did you see CHilli’s face when Favre walked away from him during that last TO. Pretty sure Favre overruled him then went out and threw away the game.

  28. cobrala2 says: Jan 25, 2010 11:12 AM

    I guess the well-known fact that Tom Moore calls in 3 plays to Peyton (do you REALLY think all 3 are Running/Passing?) means nothing?

  29. rydendonkeys says: Jan 25, 2010 11:14 AM

    This deserves a post?
    Newsflash—
    Peyton Manning calls audibles and changes plays!!
    Shocking.
    BREAKING NEWS!!!!
    Adrian Peterson has a caught fumblitis from Eric Bienemy and has passed it on to Berrian and Harvin!!!

  30. tombrookshire says: Jan 25, 2010 11:16 AM

    Good for Manning. He is old school, man. Not really a fan of his, since reading about how he engaged his chocolate star with the face of a female trainer in college. Not exactly the image he is trying to portray today. Yet, he is a hall of famer and probably the Colts best offensive coach. Colts over Saints in a runaway.

  31. PhillyHouse says: Jan 25, 2010 11:18 AM

    First off, the disrespectful comments about God are unnecessary.
    Peyton is the best QB…right now. But if you look at his total body of work, Joe Montana is the best QB of all-time. His team won the SB before Rice got there and they went on to win several more with Montana as the starter.
    Also, Montana was more athletic than Peyton, and was every bit as smart.
    I’m not a Niners fan, I just think sometimes we get caught up in the present and forget the past.

  32. topcide says: Jan 25, 2010 11:18 AM

    Because payton reads coverage and reacts to it accordingly when he changes plays. Farve tries to put bullets into triple coverage. Big difference.

  33. Filbertkiwi71 says: Jan 25, 2010 11:19 AM

    What a bunch of tools. You honestly think that Peyton is the best QB ever? Really? You must be about twelve years old then. In case you haven’t noticed, the rules have been gutted over the years to give the offensive a huge advantage over the defense.
    Comparing Manning to QBs of the past is moronic at best, if not flat out ignorant
    BTW, he still has only one SB ring, and it is SB rings that matter most.

  34. Chaco Chicken says: Jan 25, 2010 11:21 AM

    You said it man, nobody f’s with the Jesus!

  35. Chimeric says: Jan 25, 2010 11:24 AM

    they were the worst rushing offense going against the best rushing defense.
    … and yet they put up more rushing yards than the Jets….

  36. ch19079 says: Jan 25, 2010 11:28 AM

    Manning is the actual OC. If Tom Moore has a problem with that, the Colts will just pay someone else to pretend to be an OC.
    Farve is diffrent because he is not the OC for the vikings.
    This just adds to Peyton’s HOF stats. He is both a milti-pro-bowl QB and a great OC.
    If it works, keep doing it, until it doesnt.

  37. pbuck says: Jan 25, 2010 11:30 AM

    Montana still greatest ever. Peyton closing, fast, real fast.
    At least Favre is out of the equation.

  38. Patsfan1776 says: Jan 25, 2010 11:30 AM

    Like when Manning called for the QB sneak and the Jets stuffed him. Worked great. Then he gets up whining to the official about what I have no idea.

  39. Bill Cowher's Chin says: Jan 25, 2010 11:35 AM

    What is going on with the clock in Indy???
    First, there as a play against the Ravens, where Manning dropped back to pass, took 2 steps to the right to avoid the rush, throws the ball toward the end zone, and it falls incomplete. It was about 6 seconds, and that is being generous probably more like 8 or seconds. After all that, 2 seconds ticked off the clock.
    Yesterday, at the end of the first quarter, with 4 seconds left, they line up for a field goal, and the clock doesnt start. Ref has to announce the clock should have started, ad the period was over…..
    Since they cant use crowd noise anymore because the new stadium doesnt amplify sound like the old dome, now they need hometown clock management….?
    I dont like the Colts, and that means all of you will claim bias, but seriously, am I the only one that saw these 2 instances of clock mismanagement in Indy?

  40. Cowboy22 says: Jan 25, 2010 11:36 AM

    pkrlvr:
    You’re not really comparing Favre to Manning are you? Do I really even have to explain why it’s ok for Manning and not for Favre?

  41. footballisfun says: Jan 25, 2010 11:37 AM

    Wasn’t this news like 5 years ago when we found out how much control Manning has?

  42. stetai says: Jan 25, 2010 11:39 AM

    Funny when Peyton does it, he’s a great guy, when Brett does it, then he’s a diva.
    And pbuck, Peyton isn’t closing in on Montana you fool. let Peyton win 2 more SB’s and appear in one more after to even catch up to Brady.

  43. Montsta says: Jan 25, 2010 11:44 AM

    After the Colts won and Peyton and Jim Nance were both up on stage, was anybody else waiting for them to tell us how good the Lamar Hunt trophy looked on Sony Bravia HDTV’s?

  44. FUNSHIPM174 says: Jan 25, 2010 11:46 AM

    So why exactly is TomMoore there?

  45. jimbofungus11 says: Jan 25, 2010 11:49 AM

    “Peyton is the greatest of all time”
    2 years ago: “Brady is the greatest of all time”
    4 years ago: “Favre is the greatest of all time”
    6 years ago: “Montana, still the greatest of all time”
    Whatever.

  46. BleedGreen says: Jan 25, 2010 11:50 AM

    milehiclown says:
    January 25, 2010 11:08 AM
    So glad the “greatest QB ever” is not Brady any longer. It has to be Manning, hands down.
    ————————————————
    This. Brady is a pretty boy that was a product of the system. This system made Kyle Orton and Matt Cassell look good. Brady is better than both of them, so he looked equivalent to Peyton. Peyton does this all himself. Peyton IS the system. This is evidenced by Curtis Painter and Jim Sorgi looking like crap every time they’ve had to play.
    As soon as the system changed in NE, Brady hasn’t looked so great. He’s made some clutch throws but nothing like before.

  47. Massappeal says: Jan 25, 2010 11:51 AM

    Hey PAyton, see if you can get polian to chance the rules so you can get the yardage on all the phantom pass interference calls that indy gets.

  48. Prthegreat says: Jan 25, 2010 11:52 AM

    Would this story come out if they Colts Lost???????????

  49. Levito says: Jan 25, 2010 11:53 AM

    If it’s Brady or Peyton or Brees or Favre, fine. It makes sense, and it’s a non-issue. But when it’s JaMarcus or Jason Campbell changing the plays… well that’s a different story.

  50. PT Bruiser says: Jan 25, 2010 11:53 AM

    I can’t believe nobody has mentioned the he called his O coordinator by his first name. Florio made a huge deal of this when Favre called Chilly “Brad” but Peyton gets off without a comment? He called him TOM.
    My point is not that this is wrong but that Favre gets a little more scrutiny from this site. For those who bitch about these two, I for one really and truly feel blessed to get to watch both of these amazing athletes play. Next time you get fed up with one of them just think about Jamrcus Russell and then realize that these guys play the game the way it should be played.

  51. Bob S. says: Jan 25, 2010 11:54 AM

    before paul brown of the cleveland browns started sending in his alternating/guards with his play on every single browns play – the quarterback was the general the qb called all his own plays.
    indy is the only team that the old flunkies or old men some younger(coachies) they all want to play the madden game as qb that they never were good enuff to be.
    some of the worst plays called in history are seen every week from these nfl nerds minds on the sidelines!

  52. moreflagsmorefun says: Jan 25, 2010 11:56 AM

    B Eazy says:
    January 25, 2010 10:59 AM
    WELL BOYS WHAT DID I TELL YA. COLTS WIN. SO EVERYONE THAT PICKED THE JETS. WHY. NO REALLY WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. DID YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULD WIN. NO YOU DIDNT. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    COLTS WIN BABY
    CraZy me, rooting for the Jets, must be because I’m form New York, man you are a sheet head, Show some sense the Colts were a better team and HAD BETTER WIN, but the JETS TOOK NEW YORK ON THE RIDE OF IT’S LIFE AND WE ARE PROUD OUR TEAM IS NOT FULL OF JERKS LIKE YOU. Thanks Rex, coaches and ALL THE JETS STAFF,,,,,,,

  53. wydok says: Jan 25, 2010 12:10 PM

    I thought he was given two pass plays and a run and decided which one to use based on the look the defense was giving him.
    Or was that only under Dungy?

  54. tudefit says: Jan 25, 2010 12:11 PM

    Personally I don’t think the coaches should stand for it. Trade him to us (Browns)
    Seriously though, the guy knows football and is constantly calling audibles so why is this a surprise? He should be calling his own plays.

  55. zilla1126 says: Jan 25, 2010 12:12 PM

    People who “hate” Peyton Manning really need to look into the mirror. It’s one thing if you root for the Colts to lose because you are rooting for someone else; but the crap I see on here is just stupid.
    Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

  56. Larry David says: Jan 25, 2010 12:16 PM

    I could coach the Colts and they’d still be going to the Superbowl. Hence, Manning is the real coach of the team. He was smart, they should have been throwing every down, they were the worst rushing offense going against the best rushing defense. That’s what did the Chargers in, they stayed with the run too long.

  57. crispy says: Jan 25, 2010 12:17 PM

    You’d all love him if he played for your team and that’s a FACT.
    BTW, you guys need a new act. Set some new unobtainable goals for P Money because he’s about to get his second ring…

  58. Larry David says: Jan 25, 2010 12:18 PM

    I could coach the Colts and they’d still be going to the Superbowl. Hence, Manning is the real coach of the team. He was smart, they should have been throwing every down, they were the worst rushing offense going against the best rushing defense. That’s what did the Chargers in, they stayed with the run too long.

  59. Kappy says: Jan 25, 2010 12:20 PM

    A huge difference between the situation between Peyton and Brett in allowing Peyton to audible whenever he wants is that Peyton doesn’t have the league’s best RB behind him. AP is the best back in the league and if Favre would have ran when he was supposed to, AP would have outrun Chris Johnson this year, no questions asked. Joseph Adai is certainly no AP. Enough Said.

  60. jamaltimore says: Jan 25, 2010 12:23 PM

    Peyton manning is a “Field General” like no other in history I’ve watched. He’s running the entire offense everyplay and has pinpoint accuracy on his passes and most of his play calls. He’s the greatest QB I ever saw. The rules he plays with definitely benefit him, but such is the luck of the modern player. Indy is lucky to have him and for all the talk of tony dungy, caldwell, transition etc. the Head of the Colts is bill polian then Petyon!
    People can say all they want but Peyton manning in the two minute drill compared to Montana is laughable. Joe had a flair for the dramatic, but consitency favors manning.
    Lastly, I hate the colts and manning more than just about any other team out there but you can’t deny greatness only enjoy and hope he never plays the Ravens again!

  61. Popeye says: Jan 25, 2010 12:26 PM

    its been this way since his rookie year…..this is news????

  62. kenyatta says: Jan 25, 2010 12:46 PM

    GREATEST OF ALL TIME NO DOUBT

  63. Stetson wears panties says: Jan 25, 2010 12:54 PM

    Montana would play backup to his era’s greatest QB in Marino, who in turn would play back up to the greatest ever, in Peyton Manning.

  64. Turd Furguson says: Jan 25, 2010 1:00 PM

    you guys don’t get it. this isn’t about manning. they don’t win based on schemes and talent, they win based on prayers and being nice. well and god loves the colts…. Just ask their owner, head coach, gm, tony dongy, or anyone in their front office. I’d like to thank god for giving me the abilities needed to make this comment.

  65. Cowboyfan66 says: Jan 25, 2010 1:05 PM

    Peyton Manning is as close to being the greatest QB of all time as you can get. IMO I still believe that a QB who had nearly 300 TD’s in a run oriented era, where there were no roughing penalties called, was the greatest of all time…Mr. Johnny Unitas was hands down the greatest QB to play the game. Peyton is looking just like him…getting close.

  66. art vandelay-rau says: Jan 25, 2010 1:07 PM

    thank god..if you notice, 2 colt playoff games they stunk the 1qtr/half when they tried to get a run game going..they lit up the ravens on 2 drives throwing and again vs the jets..why do coaches insist on running the ball when,A.your team sucks at it,B.you played the top 2 rush defenses in the NFL,3.you have the top QB in the game who can pick apart any defense you throw at him..Run less throw more

  67. smashmouth football says: Jan 25, 2010 1:21 PM

    Bill Cowher’s Chin said (January 25, 2010 11:35 AM): “I dont like the Colts, and that means all of you will claim bias, but seriously, am I the only one that saw these 2 instances of clock mismanagement in Indy?
    I missed the first half yesterday, but I saw the entire Ravens game the week before and wondered the same thing. It’s impossible that pass play took only 2 seconds. Right afterward, you could see Harbaugh screaming at the refs, “TWO SECONDS?!!?” As usual the pathetic CBS play-by-play crew Gumbel and Dierdorf never even noticed.
    Another thing that really ticked me off yesterday was the brutal cheap shot the Colts defender (can’t remember who) took against Mark Sanchez after he made a handoff. Rex Ryan was screaming at the official, who just ignored him. I guarantee you if certain favored QB’s (cough-Peyton Manning, Tom Brady-cough) took cheap shots like that there would have been laundry (and 15-yard personal fouls) flying.

  68. Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) says: Jan 25, 2010 1:27 PM

    # Stetson wears panties says: January 25, 2010 12:54 PM
    Montana would play backup to his era’s greatest QB in Marino, who in turn would play back up to the greatest ever, in Peyton Manning.
    _________________________________
    Montana would never play backup to anyone, much less Marino. Steve Young could keep Marino on the bench.
    The things people need to realize when it comes to Joe Montana:
    1 – Montana won a Super Bowl with Paul Hofer, Earl Cooper, Dwight Clark, Freddie Solomon and Russ Francis as his “skill” (hate that term) players. You would be hard pressed to find another Super Bowl winning team with a weaker combined set of RB’s, WR’s and TE.
    2 – Montana won 2 Super Bowls without Jerry Rice.
    3 – Montana was the best quarterback in history when it comes to hitting his receivers in stride. Peyton is the closest thing out there you will see to him in this respect.
    4 – Montana is the best under pressure quarterback in NFL history. You won’t find a better big game quarterback in NFL history.
    5 – 4 Super Bowl rings…16-5 playoff record…3 Super Bowl MVP’s.
    End of discussion…

  69. Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) says: Jan 25, 2010 1:31 PM

    A little known factoid about Peyton Manning:
    Manning has a second brain hidden inside his fivehead. You’ve always wondering and now you know…

  70. Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) says: Jan 25, 2010 1:31 PM

    A little known factoid about Peyton Manning:
    Manning has a second brain hidden inside his fivehead. You’ve always wondered and now you know…

  71. bake says: Jan 25, 2010 1:38 PM

    I wish we had him in Washington audibling some of Jim Zorn’s play calls right out the door!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Signed
    Every single Redskins fan

  72. shaunypoo says: Jan 25, 2010 1:39 PM

    I will wait to judge whether he is the best ever till he is done.
    If Super Bowl rings were the only measuring stick, where is Bradshaw?
    Manning was pissed at the refs on the QB sneak cause he was ready to go and had everyone lined up but the umpire was straddling the line with his hand on the ball which gave the Jets time to line up. My question is why didn’t Manning audible or call TO?
    If he was my QB, he could call whatever he wanted, he obviously has the trust of all the other players.

  73. Joe in Toronto, Canada says: Jan 25, 2010 1:44 PM

    This place is amazing.
    Where else can you get 15 year old kids telling everybody who the GOAT is?
    Just laughable.

  74. txtroutslayer says: Jan 25, 2010 2:11 PM

    Hey jtownflood ……
    let me see if I understand you correctly…..you think Manning has no class because when the Colts were behind Peyton looked mad and left his helmet on but in the second half when they were spanking the Jets he looked happy?
    Congratulations….. You win the MORON OF THE DAY ON PFT with that stupid comment…and let me tell you…you have some tough competition between all the other morons that post on the blog including Florio!! Today you are the WINNER!!!! Congratulations!!!!!!

  75. MikeTysonWillEatYourChildren says: Jan 25, 2010 2:18 PM

    TO SMASHMOUTH FOOTBALL:
    Quit your crying over the “Cheap Shot” to Mark Sanchez. He was hit by SS Melvin Bullitt who during a later narration of game explained that he hit the QB because Sanchez had turned his back and for all Bullitt knew it was a play action pass. He couldn’t see Sanchez and the presence or the lack of the footall since the Rookie had his back turned- if he decided not to hit Sanchez and Sanchez did successfully pull off a play action pass – the outcome of the play may have been different and everybody would be talking about how Bullitt had the opportunity to stop the play but didn’t.

  76. indygordito says: Jan 25, 2010 2:30 PM

    @Patsfan1776
    “Like when Manning called for the QB sneak and the Jets stuffed him. Worked great. Then he gets up whining to the official about what I have no idea.”
    Another typical remark by an ignorant Patsies fan……
    Peyton was trying to hurry and snap the ball before the defense was set at the goal line in order to catch them off guard. He was upset because the official stood over the ball allowing the Jets defense to substitute and become set before the snap even though the Colts didn’t substitute themselves.
    BTW, the official only has to allow the defense to substitute when the offense substitutes……..(I’m assuming that you had to have the rule explained to you)

  77. Richm2256 says: Jan 25, 2010 2:32 PM

    milehiclown says:
    So glad the “greatest QB ever” is not Brady any longer. It has to be Manning, hands down.
    ————————————————
    Yeah, let’s forget who has three Super Bowls and who has one, right?
    Manning clearly was top dog THIS year, but until he coughs up three rings, he can’t be considered better than Brady. Dude is awesome, and who can question his ability to read defenses and audible, you’d have to be a friggin’ moron to doubt that. But greatest ever? Still trails Brady 3-1

  78. slutnuts says: Jan 25, 2010 2:42 PM

    the argument of g.o.a.t is usually subjective. indy fans say manning, niner fans say montana, and so on. the point that usually gets thrown around to easily is that superbowls are all that matters.
    if thats the case, then dilfer is better than marino, bradshaw is tied with montana for best ever, and aikman is better than both manning and unitas. try a little reasoning, and dont simply make the argument about superbowls.
    oh, and try to specify the argument as the “best you have seen”, because i have seen montana play, but not unitas, so i cannot compare the two.

  79. Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) says: Jan 25, 2010 2:43 PM

    Richm2256 says: January 25, 2010 2:32 PM
    Manning clearly was top dog THIS year, but until he coughs up three rings, he can’t be considered better than Brady. Dude is awesome, and who can question his ability to read defenses and audible, you’d have to be a friggin’ moron to doubt that. But greatest ever? Still trails Brady 3-
    _____________________________
    And Brady still trails Joe Montana 4-3…and Montana had to defeat some of the best teams and defenses in NFL history (Bill Parcells Giants, Mike Ditka’s Bears, Joe Gibbs Washington teams) just to get there.
    Tom Brady isn’t a pimple on Joe Montana’s ass…

  80. jimbofungus11 says: Jan 25, 2010 2:46 PM

    The things people need to realize when it comes to Joe Montana:
    1 – Montana won a Super Bowl with Paul Hofer, Earl Cooper, Dwight Clark, Freddie Solomon and Russ Francis as his “skill” (hate that term) players. You would be hard pressed to find another Super Bowl winning team with a weaker combined set of RB’s, WR’s and TE.
    ———————————————-
    1- Tom Brady won a Super Bowl with David Givens, Deion Branch, Christian Fauria, and Antowain Smith as his skill players….I didn’t have to press all that hard to find an even WEAKER set.

  81. slutnuts says: Jan 25, 2010 2:56 PM

    ok richm, its too bad that brady isnt as good as bradshaw though. until brady coughs up 4 rings he cant be considered better than bradshaw…..your words, not mine

  82. jersey73 says: Jan 25, 2010 2:59 PM

    @Richm2256…so is Terry Bradshaw better than Tom Brady???

  83. slutnuts says: Jan 25, 2010 2:59 PM

    oh yeah, and who knows one of these days michael jordan will finally get his 7th nba champioship, and then he can be considered on par with robert horry.

  84. Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) says: Jan 25, 2010 3:23 PM

    The things people need to realize when it comes to Joe Montana:
    1 – Montana won a Super Bowl with Paul Hofer, Earl Cooper, Dwight Clark, Freddie Solomon and Russ Francis as his “skill” (hate that term) players. You would be hard pressed to find another Super Bowl winning team with a weaker combined set of RB’s, WR’s and TE.
    ———————————————-
    # jimbofungus11 says: January 25, 2010 2:46 PM
    1- Tom Brady won a Super Bowl with David Givens, Deion Branch, Christian Fauria, and Antowain Smith as his skill players….I didn’t have to press all that hard to find an even WEAKER set.
    _________________________________
    Conveniently forgetting former Pro Bowl WR Troy Brown and Pro Bowl TE Daniel Graham I see. Nice try…
    Also that Patriots team was only ranked 17th in the league in offense, while Montana’s group ranked 7th in the NFL.

  85. Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) says: Jan 25, 2010 3:41 PM

    Kevin Faulk and his 1000 combined yards too.

  86. jimbofungus11 says: Jan 25, 2010 3:44 PM

    Asswipe…If Daniel Graham was a pro bowler, thats news to me. If he did make it, it wasnt due to his pass catching ability. Troy Brown was the third WR by 2003, which is the unit that I used. He was no pro bowler in 2003. Also, in your final point, you prove mine even further. Nice try? Touche.

  87. Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) says: Jan 25, 2010 4:11 PM

    Pats RB’s, WR’s and TE’s win every matchup here:
    Kevin Faulk-Antowain Smith >>> Paul Hoffer-Ricky Patton-Earl Cooper
    Deion Branch-David Givens-Troy Brown >>>Dwight Clark-Freddie Solomon-Mike Wilson
    Daniel Graham-Christian Fauria >>> Charley Young-Eason Ramson

  88. desperate9erfan says: Jan 25, 2010 6:53 PM

    I think Brady and Montana both deserve special consideration for winning superbowls with very weak receiving/running options, and i have a lot of respect for brady, but Joe was better at maximizing his production with lesser talent available. Brady’s first superbowl he only threw for 145 yards, and heck, he only played half of the afc championship game. Alot of those wins for the patriots in the playoffs came because of their defense/luck/spontaneous choking by their playoff opponent.
    And honestly you could say the same thing about plenty of joe montanas playoffs victories, well that is until you took a look at his stat lines for the 88 and 89 playoffs. Or if you took a look at the 93 chiefs team he almost took to the superbowl with willie davis and jj birden as his top receiving threats.

  89. Footballguru says: Jan 26, 2010 11:23 AM

    Manning is the best to ever play the position, perioid.

  90. MsObvious says: Jan 27, 2010 7:24 AM

    Wow! “Mine is bigger/better than yours” ….I’m just saying…these comments look more like something you’d find in a women’s hair salon chat room. Is it really so painful to admit to another human beings greatness – it really doesn’t mean that one isn’t great oneself to do so!

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