Comments on: Pereira talks about controversial calls in Saints-Vikings overtime

By: godbassist

godbassist — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:26:27 +0000

I bet that Crow taste awful , You thought Peyton was going to give you satisfaction ,he can carve you up but against the Super Bowl Champion New Orleans Saints the knives ware dull .See ya in the at our home …..

By: vikes backer

vikes backer — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:07:07 +0000

The saints were playing dirty football and the refs were letting them get away with it. Very poor officiating!!! GO COLTS!

By: NJStosh

NJStosh — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:21:11 +0000

The refs blew this game big time !!!
Hard to believe they were having a bad day with that many calls.
I’ve been watching football for over 40 years and am neither a Saints or Vikings fan. My take is the Viking were the better team and should be playing in the SB this year.
If the refs would have gotten the calls right, the turnovers would have been alot less for the Vikings.
If I was a Saints fan, I wouldn’t be too proud right now. How good can you feel about being a charity case.
Unless more is done about the ref calls in this game, the NFL has as much integrity as pro wrestling !!!
As a fan of the game, I don’t want to see the better team get robbed !!!

By: BikerSaint

BikerSaint — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:08:02 +0000

On the fumbles: consider that N.O. D was first in the league for causing turnovers. Vikes Offense was at the top in fewest turnovers. Gregg Williams admitted the Saint front seven were not dominant enough to win without forcing turnovers. They train and practice on causing them. Why overlook the fact that Saint defenders actually forced the ball out, and it wasn’t just a case of loose hands?
talk about non-calls on celebs? i remember in the 80′s when the 49ers were kingpins. Jerry Rice scored his record breaking touchdown on a long bomb against the Saints, and the replay clearly shows he dropped the ball at the three yard line, as he raised it to the air to celebrate too early.

By: deemic

deemic — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:49:12 +0000

Being a Chargers fan, I’ve gotten used to disappointment and every team deals with bads calls. This is different. The NFC title game was a sham.
The Vikings got screwed big time on that last drive. Not just “in game” calls, but calls that actually determined the outcome of the final drive.
The game was tied and in overtime. At that point, turnovers are irrelevant and each team has a fair shot at victory…. unless the refs hand the game over to the Saints (which they did). It renders your “turnovers decided the game” argument as pointless.
The truth is, the better team in NOT in the Superbowl and the whole country saw the Saints back-in to the game because of horrible officiating.
Illegitimate victory.
Vikings-Colts would’ve been a matchup for the ages. Instead, this game will be a blowout and expose the Saints for the fraud they are.

By: Moose

Moose — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:13:33 +0000

Favre didn’t complain why should the pansy fans? I don’t see anyone complaining about the hit on Sanchez [Jets] AFTER he handed off the ball and then was creamed. Someone asked how it felt going to the Super Bowl because of the officiating. IT FEELS GREAT !!!!! Obviously a lot better than not going.

By: JJ

JJ — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:33:33 +0000

Vikes ran up the score on the Cowboys as a result of talent and skill; the Saints won by a measly 3 points in OT in THEIR OWN HOUSE, because the Vikes had butterfingers that day and poor calls. If they hadn’t made so many mistakes, Vikes would have won easily…everyone knows that. The Saints barely won in their own house…even with all the bad calls and Viking TO’s…if they play to that level in the SB….SEE YA. Personally, I think the Vikes VS. the Colts in the SB would have been more competitive and more fun to watch. What’s so fun about watching some Dirty Defensive Saints try to take out Peyton Manning’s knees? Only way they can win is by trying to take out the good players and play all the backups…kinda gives you an idea of what level they think they are at as a Team themselves. QB’s can and should be hit, but not illegally and to the extent Aints go…if you don’t follow the rules, it’s just slop football…SLOP. Warner retires, Favre pulls out of the Pro-Bowl…hmmmm, should tell you something about their tactics…I don’t care how old a QB is…How does it feel to go to the SB riding the DIRTY plane?

By: fuhgyou

fuhgyou — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:24:43 +0000

# Kay Bee says: January 28, 2010 12:47 AM
Geez…more whining. Perhaps if the Vikings didn’t turn the ball over a handful of times, they could’ve won. This game should’ve actually been a BLOWOUT in the Saints’ favor.
New Orleans’ offense didn’t play very well, and they still put up 31 points. Face it…Favre is a fraud and he won’t be back next year. The Vikings’ window is now CLOSED.
This is what they get for running up the score on the Cowboys. Karma is a b*tch huh?
Actually, not a Vikings fan, but without their own fumbles, this game would’ve been a Vikings blow out win, similar to what they did to the Cowboys.
I think they have a legitimate gripe with the refs, but then this does happen all the time. All. The. Time. The Cowboys lose the first game this year to the Eagles without that horrible ball spot on fourth down, and don’t even get to play the Vikings in Round 2.
The refs are absolutely horrible in the NFL. Maybe it’s me, but I do not see anywhere close to as many horribly made or horribly missed calls in any college game.
Does the speed of the pro game really affect the refs ability that much?

By: screwed again

screwed again — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:21:19 +0000

First off, congrats to Saints fans. If I was a Saints fan I wouldn’t care one way or the other about the refs. If you’re in the Super Bowl you don’t care how you got there. If you win the big game, nobody will remember the previous one. I’m sure the Saints have had many games where they’ve been screwed and feel like this is just karma swinging their way.
To the Packers fans on here, as a Viking fan I’m thrilled to have Favre this year and hopefully next, but I must say GB made the right call moving forward with Rogers and will be set nicely for many more years than the Vikes at qb.
As for this game…I moved on from blaming officiating back in the 80′s. Back then it seemed to me the Vikes always got screwed by the refs and would fall apart after getting the short end of a call. I also noticed that the great teams (like Frisco back then) wouldn’t ALWAYS get the call, but would move forward and make a play to regain what was lost. That said, as a fan I can’t help but feeling that the officials (and the inadequate OT coin toss rule) took away any chance of the Vikes winning in OT. Yes, the Vikes turned the ball over 5 times and fumbled 6 times, and yes, the 12 men in the huddle was sickening, but that doesn’t excuse the series of bad calls and marginal calls that all went the Saints way in OT. I wasn’t surprised when the reviewed plays (Meachems catch and Thomas’ fumbled ball on 4th down) weren’t overturned as both appeared to be bad calls, but there wasn’t the perfect camera shot in either case to “prove” they were bad calls. What nobody seems to be talking about is how the refs blew each of these calls initially. If they had been ruled correctly on the field they wouldn’t have been overturned the other way either. I also guarantee that if the refs had swallowed their flags on the Leber PI that there wouldn’t be an uproar about how is should have been called. The refs blew it on the field…repeatedly, and unfortunately they all went in one teams favor in OT.
As for us whining Vikings fans bitching about losing in OT, when we could have taken care of business in the first four quarters; If the refs had called the “Brady rule” on Favre’s first pick the Vikes would have won in regulation despite losing the turnover battle 4-1 (which they did during the regular season on multiple occasions for those of you who didn’t see all the Vikes games). Besides the missed call, Saints fans have to feel lucky the Vikes fumbled away a golden oppotunity before halftime with the botched handoff preventing at least an easy field goal attempt. The vaunted pressure defense of the Saints had nothing to do with forcing that fumble, which could easily have also been the winning point difference in the game.
The Vikings have now lost 4 Super Bowls and 5 straight NFC championship games. Most of these losses I attribute to the Vikes falling apart in “the big one.” A few were helped mightily by horrible calls (Pittsburgh SB in my opinion, the Dallas Hail Mary push off, and of course this one). And, I attribute a couple to simply being outplayed by a superior opponent (SBs – KC, Miami, and Oakland, and I should credit the Giants for kicking the snot out of Denny Green’s Vikes in 2000, 41-0). Thats a lot of losing in very bad ways for us poor Viking fans. I have my doubt any other franchise has endured as much when it comes to self destructing or being screwed in big games. Ownership, coaches, players, even stadiums change, yet somehow history keeps repeating for Viking fans. The Twins winning two titles was huge, but there’s only one thing that would cleanse the average Minnesota sports fans psyche – a Vikings title. This is the seemingly unobtainable event.
I’d also like to say (as though this has been too short) that I’m sorry for any Katrina comments from other Viking fans. As far as I’m concerned, thats in very poor taste and I don’t buy the comment that it was pointed at the media for over covering it.
Why do the Vikes always have rosters riddled with pro bowlers, yet never win when they need too? Was Ditka such a genius back in ’85 when he said it was the best team, not the best collection of players? And if so, why can’t the Vikes ever get a coach to go along with all the talent?

By: footballrulz

footballrulz — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:49:15 +0000

No prob man. And yes, Vikes beat themselves, just like Pack beat themselves against the Cards. Bad calls and no calls in both games but bottom line is both teams should have been able to overcome them.
Good luck next season.

By: jx4cmario1

jx4cmario1 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:36:22 +0000

Does suck. But I also know that the Vikes beat themselves with fumbles, 12 men, bad coaching, ect…the list goes on. There’s no question that some of the calls mentioned were iffy, but there’s also no way that game should’ve even been in OT. I’ll leave it at that, and sorry for the STFU…

By: footballrulz

footballrulz — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:54:38 +0000

@ jx4c…
I have not been one of the Favre’s gonna fall apart, he can’t make the season, etc. Packer fans. I’ve pretty much said all along he made a good choice and that he never would have survived this year as a Packer. He would have to have endured a whole 1st half of the season taking the beating he took last Sunday. So don’t put words in my mouth either dude.
All I did was bring up a few posts where the shoe was on the other foot and lot’s of VIkes fans were on there with the don’t blame the refs crap & now, well, here we are. Kinda sucks when it happens to your team, huh.
And don’t tell me to STFU.

By: MetairieBoy

MetairieBoy — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:52:12 +0000

Mike, you’ve bet against the Saints all along, and this just looks like you’re trying to cover your butt.
You have no credibility because you’ve been wrong (“Saints will be the only upset” in the divisional round), in both games. You’re whining about the hits on Farve, but when Brees got similarly driven into the ground, no call was made.
The Vikings had ample opportunities, and they didn’t win the game.
Stop crying, admit your failures in prediction, and move on…

By: jx4cmario1

jx4cmario1 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:49:52 +0000

footballrulz-
Where did I say anything about the Favre INT besides that that’s where we could’ve burried them? I’m in no way bitter about the INT because that’s part of the game. Please don’t put words in my mouth. If Favre’s back, we’ll be back as the favorite to come out of the NFC. (this is where you say we’ll just choke again) He made a bonehead mistake at a very crucial time and now the obvious “we said it all along” and “you wanted him, you got him” rants are out in full force. He had an unbelievable year and I hope he comes back to finish the job.

By: EMan

EMan — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:46:29 +0000

The truth is that it is over. Nothing changes that one. Both the poor ball control and the crappy officiating contributed to the score being where it was at come the last whistle.
It amazes me that the Packer fans seem to be hollering more about all this than the Vikes fans themselves. Give it a break -the game is done and either way the Vikes did lose it.
Favre proved to be a better QB than Rodgers- THIS year. Aaron will plan MANY more years that Brett as Brett will retire next year or maybe the following.
The Vikes were a better team than the Packers were again THIS year.
It all goes back and forth. The real North fans were and will root for whoever in the NFC North is in there in my book. I can holler at the Packers all year but when the Vikes are out then if the Pack is still in I can root for them and the NFC North.
ITS OUR HOOD. Protect the North and call it like you see it fella’s. The refs sucked and made VERY poor calls but that doesn’t say I am whining or thinking that those calls coming back would have been the difference-ball contol was horrible on the Vikes side and so we will just never know.

By: grunt24

grunt24 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:29:39 +0000

@ jx4cmario1
Im not saying they were both good calls, but they were the right calls–so it is what it is
30-24 colts, but hoping its 30-27 saints

By: footballrulz

footballrulz — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:17:14 +0000

@ irishmeat
well said

By: jx4cmario1

jx4cmario1 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:09:36 +0000

Grunt-
We can go back and forth all day on this, the only thing I will add is regarding Pierre’s leap, you can’t compare him breaking the plane of the EZ to reaching for a 1st down, once the ball crosses the plane of the EZ the play is over, it’s a TD. A 1st down is totally different, he lost control and the ball should’ve been respotted accordingly. Whether he had control with his other hand is a totally different arguement all together, and that’s where conclusive evidence comes in, they probably didn’t have enough.

By: footballrulz

footballrulz — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:05:37 +0000

@ jx4cmar, hut, hut
Both.
Feeling a little testy their dude? Oh the bitter taste of a Favre int in a playoff game. You have to learn the let the inevitable go–you’ll live longer.

By: grunt24

grunt24 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:45:37 +0000

@jx4cmario1
about the article??? i was refering to the the fans that are complaining about the refs favored the saints soooo much, and i was making a point on how the refs were not favoring the saints due to the fact that the saints had about 8 times as many penalty yards as the vikes did–and id say in ot there was one bad call, when leber was called on the interference, but like pereira said, live motion i can see that the ref would call that, but if leber woulda played the ball there would not have been a flag—as far as the other being bad calls, they were 50/50, looks like he had forward progress on that and yea the ball was knocked back but still had it in his hand as pereira said, u would call it a td if that were the goal line cz the ball touched it, wasnt a clear cut fumble cz he had his hand on it the entire time—and the catch coulda gone either way too, may have touched the ground but looks like he had his hand under the ball who knows…REMEMBER BOTH PLAYS WERE REVIEWED—I feel bad for ya i do but u said it perfect “But if the Vikes bury them in regulation, none of this matters, but they didn’t.”

By: Irishmeat

Irishmeat — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:31:06 +0000

As a Vikings fan I am pleading STOP the whining!! Bad calls happen. We are sounding like Packer fans. Maybe we should focus on this:
We had the ball on their 33 yard line (50 yarder) and then called a timeout and put 12 guys in the huddle with a Super Bowl trip on the line.
Then after the penalty we still had a 55 yarder and instead called a pass play with a hobbled QB.
All fumbles and penalties aside it came down to coaching. We FAILED.

By: jx4cmario1

jx4cmario1 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:18:47 +0000

Grunt-
You know what I meant, the point is you weren’t even referencing anything the article is talking about, typical Packer fan, take something out of context and use it to make your point. I’ve seen it a million times.
Obviously these were bad calls, the fact that Pereira even brought them up proves it. But if the Vikes bury them in regulation, none of this matters, but they didn’t.

By: AutumnWind999

AutumnWind999 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:15:30 +0000

Where does this idea come from that if the Vikings didn’t have so many turnovers the game wouldn’t have been close? How long did the Saints trail in this game? About a total of 9 minutes. It was 7-0 Vikings after their opening drive. And 14-7 late in the 1st quarter to early 2nd quarter. I know their was a big gap in the yards from scrimmage total but that doesn’t factor in the 80-yard kick return that set up the Saints’ 3rd TD. It doesn’t factor in that the Saints had better field position most of the game (largely because of turnovers) so their drives were obviously shorter because they were playing on a shorter field.
The truth is the Saints forced as many turnovers as any team in the league this year and scored more defensive TDs than any other team. It’s their style to strip the ball and bait QBs into throwing picks. When they do it successfully 4 times in 1 game (the 5th turnover was the botched handoff which was a lucky play for the Saints) it’s just as much or more to their credit as it is the Vikings blame.
So the Vikings didn’t hand the Saints this game. The Saints snatched it away like they did the football so many times on Sunday.

By: eballa1

eballa1 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:06:15 +0000

Vikings fans, if you didn’t like the OT calls, just remember, you had a chance to win in regulation but thanks to Favre being Favre the game went to OT.

By: jx4cmario1

jx4cmario1 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:30:14 +0000

Footballrulz says:
“I really like the one from RealPervyHarvin (who is not, by the way) about Favre being there to save the Packers. Just like he did when the Pack played the Giants,Philly & the Rams.
It’s been almost a week. Time to let it go…”
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When Florio posts something like this of course he’s going to get a reaction from people, so when you say “time to let it go” are you talking to the people merely responding to the article, or Florio himself? STFU….

By: footballrulz

footballrulz — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:13:24 +0000

1. RWFV says: January 15, 2010 9:21 PM
mike says: January 15, 2010 7:32 PM
From the Nfl:
Sorry we screwed up the Packers should have won the game.
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My god man…..get over it. Grow men don’t cry over missed calls. The packers got down by 17 because of turnovers – how do you blame the refs for that?
Big f’n babies.
1. DocBG says: January 15, 2010 9:26 PM
one thing that has consistently been left out by the reporters on here is that if every missed call and non-call was enforced, the playoff seeding, and indeed teams could be drastically changed, possible resulting in the packers not even making the f-ing playoffs.
any time you have humans making calls, there are going to be screwups, and this is a call that could have really went either way. then again, perhaps simply preventing 1 of the 45 points the cards scored would have negated this anyway right?
1. RealityTrip says: January 16, 2010 1:10 AM
Packers blew it from the beginning so there is no sympathy here. Good teams overcome bad officiating.
Ponder that during the off season losers!!!
1. RealPervyHarvin says: January 14, 2010 10:33 AM
I watched the video and have some thoughts. That game is history,the better team won the Defenseless Bowl. It’s simple…Favre wasn’t there to save the Packers. Rodgers is not clutch with the game on the line like Favre…never will be. He panicks,like a girl. The belt dance says it all…
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Just a random sampling of some posts frfom a thread talking about Piera & the Cards/Pack game.
I really like the one from RealPervyHarvin (who is not, by the way) about Favre being there to save the Packers. Just like he did when the Pack played the Giants,Philly & the Rams.
It’s been almost a week. Time to let it go…

By: Cowboy22

Cowboy22 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:12:13 +0000

Where were all the Vikings fans 2 weeks ago when Romo got driven into the ground in the first quarter? I didn’t here any complaints then. Why is it that the vikings fans aren’t questioning the 1 st and 2nd down calls on their last drive that put them in position for the INT play. If you stay aggressive on those 2 calls you gain another ten yards and the 12 man call is meaningless. Why are all these fans excusing Favre’s stupidity? After all, OT wouldn’t have happened if Purple Moses hadn’t thrown one of the all-time dumbest passes. Plenty of bad calls against the Saints throughout the game as well. It is really nice and quiet in Minnesota this week.

By: grunt24

grunt24 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:11:41 +0000

@jx4cmario1
actually it was the other way around, read carefully or proofread b4 posting please, deeeeerrereer, embarrassing

By: RobF2010

RobF2010 — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:55:36 +0000

I’m sure Jared Allen and the Williams Wall was going to be gentle if they ever got to Drew Brees. Don’t like the beating your QB is taking? Protect him with your players instead of counting on the officials to do it for you. Of course, you’ll have to leave a few more guys in and limit yourselves offensively like the Saints did and you won’t get to pile up all those pretty stats so you can show us how impressive you are in defeat.
The Dolphins held the ball for 45 minutes earlier this year and out-everythinged the Colts. The Colts still won. That one is the most impressive loss of teh season but I’ll give the Vikings the second-most impressive loss trophy or maybe we should call it the First Runner-Up like they do in beauty contests.
Suck it up. There’s no crying in football, either.

By: Ambrose

Ambrose — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:49:48 +0000

Look real close at a slowmo replay of the Meachem catch. The ball may have been loose and moving when he hit the ground, but his hand is underneath it the whole way. Call it splitting hairs, but the catch was good. So was the end result. And Favre got some calls he should have gotten and he received some he should not have gotten. Choose.