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Thompson's offseason agenda starts with Pickett

Packers G.M. Ted Thompson doesn’t dip his toe into the free agent waters too often, but one of his most successful signings came in 2006 when he picked up defensive tackle Ryan Pickett.

That four-year deal worked out so well, he wants to sign Pickett again.

The unrestricted free agent is Thompson’s top offseason priority, according to Greg A. Bedard of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.  Pickett was a bargain for $14 million over four years last time around, and is sure to get a raise.

The two sides are already in contract negotiations.  If the Packers can cross Pickett off the list, Bedard writes their next move will be to retain left tackle Chad Clifton, who is also an unrestricted free agent.  The team will also offer a contract to Aaron Kampman, who is coming off a torn ACL, but he won’t be a priority.

The offensive line figures to be in flux. Right tackle Mark Tascher (a UFA) and guard Daryn Colledge (a restricted free agent) appear less important to retain. 

The Packers opened the season as the league’s youngest roster for the fourth straight season in 2009, and nearly all of their key young players should be back.

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  1. jeffragnarchicken says: Jan 28, 2010 8:48 AM

    The 1st move should be to sign Collins.
    Kampman, really? TT is a moron.
    Signing Kampman when he doesn’t fit the scheme is gayer than TT’s boyfreind.

  2. WickedKoala says: Jan 28, 2010 8:49 AM

    Uh…Nick Collins anyone? Where’s his new deal? He’s earned it.

  3. SWILPackfan says: Jan 28, 2010 8:59 AM

    @ jeffragnarchicken…
    Collins isn’t goiing anywhere. Whetther he is a priority or not. He is restricted. He will get tendered and if someone else tries to sign him, they will owe the Packers a 1st and a 3rd to take him. It is a good plan for TT. Also, it allows the rest of the league to set the market for him. I think ignoring Tauscher is a bigger mistake.

  4. Drat says: Jan 28, 2010 9:01 AM

    The Rams were criticized for taking Pickett in the first round. First they tried to defend themselves. Then they dumped him. There is a long long list of players that were dropped by the Rams, who are better than anyone they have on the team now. So far, i see no evidence that Devaney is better than Zygmunt and Armey.

  5. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Jan 28, 2010 9:01 AM

    Capers was finally figuring out how to use Kampman in the 3-4 when Kampy got hurt. Schemes are flexbile if the player is good enough. Even if he just uses him on pass rushing downs, it would be a good signing. The guy is also a great lockerroom leader. I don’t think TT will offer him a huge contract, but a fair one.
    I think TT needs to sign both Clifton and Tauscher. Then draft one or two more tackles and try to develop them (like they are doing with Lang).
    He also needs to extend Collins and keep him happy. There aren’t enough good safeties in the league, and the guy has proven to be a very good player.
    Colledge is OK, but inconsistent.

  6. daPACK says: Jan 28, 2010 9:07 AM

    Colledge is awful.
    Resign Pickett, Tauscher, Clifton, and then try to extend Collins.

  7. Pack_Attack says: Jan 28, 2010 9:10 AM

    TT is the George Bush of football, no matter what he does, whatever success he achieves, hes gonna get trashed on sites like this. (not you Gregg, the comments)

  8. jamesz23 says: Jan 28, 2010 9:12 AM

    Goodbye Daryn Colledge – the worst numbers of pressures/sacks allowed by a Green Bay Packers guard since they started keeping track in the early 90’s. And this guy had the nerve to complain about his contract, really??
    If the Packers can get Kampman back for a discounted price due to his injury they should bring him back for sure – he is still a very good football player whether he fits the scheme perfectly or not.

  9. Supersuckers says: Jan 28, 2010 9:16 AM

    relax people. Thompson is letting others set the market. This isnt a video game. you have to have some business sense to know what goes on during the offseason.

  10. Wipackman says: Jan 28, 2010 9:25 AM

    2 most insignifigant words ever said
    jeffragnarchicken says:

  11. GobiasINC_1 says: Jan 28, 2010 9:33 AM

    I have never seen anyone take so much heat for putting an 11-5 team on the field. I would hope the Rams, Lions, Bears, Redskins, Seahawks, Chiefs, Bills and Jaguars’ (just to name a few) GMs get grief for putting utter failures on the field.
    But they don’t, because those franchises couldn’t find the best young quarterback in football right now. And yet, people hate Ted because he did.
    Oh, and Clay Matthews was OK too.

  12. slothism says: Jan 28, 2010 9:57 AM

    pack_attack. please refrain from insulting ted thompson by comparing him to the worst president in history. there may be some reasons for a person to be down on ted thompson, but he didn’t start an unnecessary war, shred the constitution, or attain his position by being installed by a dubious decision by the supreme court.
    finally, i assure you the packers finances are in much better shape than the country’s were when GWB left office.

  13. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Jan 28, 2010 9:59 AM

    jeffragnarchicken says:
    January 28, 2010 8:48 AM
    The 1st move should be to sign Collins.
    Kampman, really? TT is a moron.
    Signing Kampman when he doesn’t fit the scheme is gayer than TT’s boyfreind.
    —————————
    Weren’t you saying Thompson would be a moron to let Kampman go without getting something for him? Injury or not, Kampman has showed his worth as a 4-3 DE in this league. More sacks than everyone but 2 guys from ’06 through ’08, right?
    So you’d let him walk and get nothing in return?

  14. purpleguy says: Jan 28, 2010 10:09 AM

    Seemed like Tauscher was more reliable and durable than Clifton last year, so I don’t understand why he’s being ignored again.

  15. GobiasINC_1 says: Jan 28, 2010 10:20 AM

    Supersuckers, couldn’t agree more. If Mariucci was so good, he would have a job in the NFL right now. Wahle and Rivera played a combined three years after the Packers under Thompson’s watch released them.
    Thompson is not perfect, nor is anyone saying he is. But he is one of the best GMs in the league and he would have a job very quickly if you Favre-loving idiots had your way and had him fired.

  16. MushroomCloudMoFo says: Jan 28, 2010 10:23 AM

    @Supersuckers
    +1

  17. shaggytoodle says: Jan 28, 2010 10:31 AM

    TT is great, we had the most talented team Favre played with he said it himself (it did take a year for him to get to an NFC Championship). Not only does he draft well with picks like Rodgers, Jennings, and Matthews. He also picks up an Atari Bigby or Ryan Grant who both came out of no where. Both Favre and TT are to blame for the clusterfudge that occured, BUT if I retire and then four months later I try to get my job back I’m pretty sure that they would move on. The huge difference is the Pack took one step back and two steps foward, it took TWO seasons to get back into the postseason since Favre retired. While the Vikings may still make the playoffs with great line play and a run game. They have to make some pretty big moves to get another “superbowl” QB back there once Favre is gone one step foward and two steps back.

  18. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 10:32 AM

    People dislike Thompson because he’s an idiot. In 5 years, he’s compiled a 42-38 record. Before Ted, the Packers last losing record was in 1991. Thompson has had 2 in 5 years, and one season of 8-8.
    And when did Favre “demand” those things? He lobbied for them, pushed for them, but he never demanded. Brady lobbied to sign Moss as well, and he was considered to be a great leader for doing so. But you call Favre a diva for doing the same.

  19. GirthyOne says: Jan 28, 2010 10:37 AM

    Ted Thompson is hated by those knowledgeable about football. His first “priority” when he became the GM was to say that he understood that you build from the line out, which is totally correct. I was thrilled to hear that. Then he failed to do that. Wahle was 27 and he waived him (check the record, waived). Wahle only made all-pro the next two seasons. None of the OL or DL, this far, Ted acquired are players who have or ever appear to be someone who will become all-pro.
    How often did you cringe when First Favre and then Rodgers were taking huge shoots because the line was inept? I fear for Rodgers on every pass play that a Theisman type play is waiting.
    Clifton, Wahle, Flannagan, Rivera, and Tauscher was the starting line when Ted took over. Ted tried to sign post June 1 guys, draft a whole slew of duds and now is left with the same two tackles, now getting ancient and both UFA. Ted is now rebuilding the line “again” in his 6th year. That is called failure. You have one of the best young QBs in the game and you WASTE draft picks on 2 DL (Harrell and Raji), instead of getting the OL help that has been needed since year 1 of his tenure. I like Matthews, but when the biggest need on your team is OL, you certainly shouldn’t be looking beyond that until it is addressed.
    Free agency isn’t anything that Ted wants to get into, but until he addresses the line properly in the draft, it certainly couldn’t be worse than what he has drafted. Besides, there have been great FAs out there. Moss was one of them. How good would Moss, Jennings and Driver look and both Jones and Nelson picks could have been OL. Ted seems clueless.
    Pickett was good value at $14m, but he is an average, at best, DT. Raji was drafted because Pickett isn’t that good.
    Frustrating is the word.

  20. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 10:39 AM

    GobiasINC_1 says: January 28, 2010 10:20 AM
    Supersuckers, couldn’t agree more. If Mariucci was so good, he would have a job in the NFL right now. Wahle and Rivera played a combined three years after the Packers under Thompson’s watch released them.
    ______________
    Umm, when you say combined, that means you add the total years of service together. As in Wahle’s 4 years of service, plus Rivera’s 2 years. This is 6 combined years. And Wahle went to the Pro Bowl in his first year in Carolina. Nice try, though.

  21. jeffragnarchicken says: Jan 28, 2010 10:46 AM

    Wipackman says:
    January 28, 2010 9:25 AM
    2 most insignifigant words ever said
    jeffragnarchicken says:
    =============================
    I’m glad I’m in your head that much that you comment on what i say and not the topic at hand.
    I believe the word you ar looking for is igsignificant.
    Eveidently what i say isn’t, you chose to comment on it.
    ——————————————
    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    January 28, 2010 9:59 AM
    jeffragnarchicken says:
    January 28, 2010 8:48 AM
    The 1st move should be to sign Collins.
    Kampman, really? TT is a moron.
    Signing Kampman when he doesn’t fit the scheme is gayer than TT’s boyfreind.
    —————————
    Weren’t you saying Thompson would be a moron to let Kampman go without getting something for him? Injury or not, Kampman has showed his worth as a 4-3 DE in this league. More sacks than everyone but 2 guys from ’06 through ’08, right?
    So you’d let him walk and get nothing in return?
    ==================================
    I see your point. He just isn’t a fit there and the Pack is loaded at LB. I guess it depends on the size of the contract, but they could wind up paying the guy to be on the bench. Coming off injury is there a trade market for him?
    I said that about TT earlier in the year, he would’ve gotten more for him then, pre injury, then he would now.

  22. TNicks says: Jan 28, 2010 10:50 AM

    Brad Jones did a heck of a job filling in for Kampman and I wouldn’t be surprised if Kampman was let go because of it. The pass rush was inconsistent throughout the year but Kampman wasn’t the problem or the solution. Don’t be surprised if he’s back in the three point stance with a different team next year. This team also has enough talent that trading up to draft a tackle wouldn’t be a bad idea. Moving picks to get their hands on a tackle or a corner would be wise.

  23. jeffragnarchicken says: Jan 28, 2010 10:59 AM

    Actually the 1st order of bussiness should be to get a DC that can stay awake during a playoff game.
    That guy was sleeping!
    I watched the video. It looked like he farted himself out of a sound sleep. From his reaction, it appeared to be of the sand burr feeling variety.
    It must have hurt coming out.
    The orginization must be used to it, Sherman was sleeping at the combine, it must be accepted in GB.

  24. PossibleCabbage says: Jan 28, 2010 11:02 AM

    Collins is a RFA in the absence of a CBA extension, so he gets tendered at the highest level and then you work on an extension over the summer. If there is a CBA extension, you slap the franchise tag on him (safeties are cheap to franchise) and you work on an extension over the summer.

  25. jimmySee says: Jan 28, 2010 11:06 AM

    “Thompson is a great GM according to his peers. ”
    I totally agree.
    TT is a personnel man who learned at the side of Ron Wolf. He gets his hands dirty in film and scouting live. The Packers are lucky to have him.
    Wasn’t his first draft pick as GM to take Aaron Rodgers?

  26. Supersuckers says: Jan 28, 2010 11:09 AM

    Majik
    What are YOU doing “trolling” around on two Packer threads this morning? Haven’t you been bitching about me being on Viking threads?

  27. just_a_cigar says: Jan 28, 2010 11:22 AM

    @ Pack_Attack:
    To what success are you referring? The comproimsing of the American electoral system in order to get elected? The two unwinnable wars/occupations that have costed us billions upon billions of dollars and countless American lives? The constant filtering of taxpayer money into corporations in which his family and friends had a vested interest? His successful ploy to turn a surplus into a massive deficit in eight short years? The total inability to properly speak the English language?
    Please, I’m curious.

  28. Mick730 says: Jan 28, 2010 11:30 AM

    Thompson is a great GM according to his peers and a great GM to anybody who knows anything about the NFL.
    The people who “hate” him are Favrists and nitwits. Sort of redundant, but you get my drift. They demand that the Green Bay GM entertain them during the offseason and play the free agent game irregardless of how unproductive that is or how pitiful the ususal availalbe free agents may be.
    I do hope though that posters like this ragnar character keep posting so people can see for themselves what kind of losers these Favrists truly are. The funny thing is that just like “PervyHarvin”, they aren’t all 12 years old and typing away on Mommy’s computers. They’re usually middle aged men with either pathetic lives or no lives at all.
    ‘Thompson’s a fag! He’s boring and won’t entertain me every February by signing free agents so I have something to do!’ And how can he “run Mickey Mouse out of Disney Land?!!!!’
    Losers, and just like Pervy, they are consumed with homosexuals, penis size and bad grammar.
    Gotta wonder about these folks.

  29. Supersuckers says: Jan 28, 2010 11:35 AM

    jeffragnarchicken says:
    January 28, 2010 10:59 AM
    Actually the 1st order of bussiness should be to get a DC that can stay awake during a playoff game.
    That guy was sleeping!

  30. Jack Factor says: Jan 28, 2010 11:36 AM

    Shore up the O Line and fix the D Back situation and we will have a minimum of 10 wins next year.
    Go Pack Go.

  31. JerkStore says: Jan 28, 2010 11:37 AM

    Girthy,
    You are right, Wahle was waived. But do you know why? Because the GM who negotiated his previous contract put what amounted to a void year in his contract, where the team would either need to pay him like $15 million for the 2005 season, sign him to an extension, or release him. There was an interview with Wahle after the ’04 season where he says his agent put it in the contract to give him a shot at free agency or another nice extension. And, since Sherman had also left the team in such an awful cap situation, they literally could not afford to keep Wahle.
    But you go ahead and keep thinking Thompson is an idiot for releasing Wahle. Is everything black and white in your world? Ask a Cowboys fan if they are happy with the contract they signed Rivera to, that will tell you all you need to know about that one.
    Now, I agree he has done an insufficient job of replacing them, but he had no choice but to let the two of them walk when he arrived.

  32. jeffragnarchicken says: Jan 28, 2010 11:47 AM

    I believe the word you ar looking for is igsignificant.
    Eveidently what i say isn’t, you chose to comment on it.
    ===============================
    Man, I hate it when I correct spelling, then, spell 2 things wrong in my response.
    insignificant
    evidently
    I feel better.

  33. JerkStore says: Jan 28, 2010 11:56 AM

    Girthy,
    Found an article for reference. Wahle was due $11mil for 2005.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2004296
    If TT can hit on a LT (for the near future, not a long term project) in the draft this year, I think the line will be in pretty decent shape. Sitton is solid at RG, Lang will be very good at RT, (or anywhere they put him, he can play) throw a healthy Spitz at LG, Wells at C, I’d take that.
    I can’t argue with the defensive focus of the team, even with a sub-par line, the offense still put up record numbers, and the transiton to the 3-4 needed some big pieces like Raji and Matthews.
    And seriously, an argument for Moss? I don’t even know where to start with that one, but suffice it to say, if Moss was here, Driver would have been gone. I’ll take DD plus Jones and Nelson over just Moss any day.

  34. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 11:57 AM

    Super
    This is the only Packer thread I’m on, I was on the other one because it was about Holmgren. And I knew the brilliance on display in this one would be too good to pass up.
    But the difference here is that this post is actually about Thompson. You come on random Viking threads that have nothing to do with Favre and start bashing him.

  35. A Big Deal says: Jan 28, 2010 11:58 AM

    I would love if the Vikings signed Nick Collins, and gave the packers our first and third round picks. He is a great young player and the Vikings need a good player at that position. The vikings also dont have any glaring needs at any other position, so for the 30th overall pick it might be a good deal. As we all know the good packers always want to come over to the good side. It would also be funny to see what TT would do.

  36. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 12:00 PM

    And Super, why did you abandon the “offseason study” thread? Because you were proven wrong and made to look like an idiot? Again.

  37. Supersuckers says: Jan 28, 2010 12:03 PM

    JerkStore guys like Girthy and Majik are only able to comprehend what they see at the surface (i.e. black or white) Thinking deeper and using perspective are not in his make up. He thinks watching the NFL on the TV or from his bleacher seat that he is getting it all. Thats what he uses to base and form his opinions and that is why to people that can think a little bit they are moronic. I mean this guy’s favorite team changes to whatever team Brett Favre plays for. That says it all. not capable of rational analysis or critical thinking. Simply a surface man.

  38. Supersuckers says: Jan 28, 2010 12:08 PM

    Because it was from yesterday you clown. I get bored easily.

  39. murray22 says: Jan 28, 2010 12:08 PM

    Signing Pickett, Clifton and Tauscher should be the top priorities. Pickett is the key to the run defense. He had a much better season than Raji. Clifton and Tauscher are still servicable and there is nobody else on the roster that has proven the ability to play tackle. TJ Lang might have a future at right tackle or left guard, but not sure if he has the height or feet to play left tackle. Kampmen is a great player, but not a good fit for the 3-4, unless the Pack finds a way to let him rush the passer only and not drop into coverage. The Pack might tag and trade him like they did with Corey Williams. Collins will get a new deal, but he’s not a priority until the CBA gets fixed. Thompson is a great GM. It takes time to build a team through the draft, but the team is improving. I hope Thompson stays in GB another 10 years.

  40. last starfighter says: Jan 28, 2010 12:11 PM

    After the bonanza of Reggie White, Sean Jones, and Santana Dotson, Ron Wolf never signed a significant FA. People have written a revisionist history of his GB stint. Anywhoo, Nick Collins makes like 3.5 million a season already. Not exactly chump change

  41. jamesz23 says: Jan 28, 2010 12:18 PM

    I would happily take the 1st & 3rd round pick for Nick Collins – he leaves a lot of games with injuries. He is a very solid player but I wouldn’t call any safety on a team that gives up over 500 yds passing great. The Pack would have 5 picks in the first 3 rds of a deep draft and could sign Ryan Clark of the Steelers who they already are rumored to have strong interest in.

  42. GobiasINC_1 says: Jan 28, 2010 12:18 PM

    Majik Bullet, if Wahle was so great how come he isn’t in the NFL now? Rivera was nothing in Dallas, you can’t deny that. Resigning Wahle to a large contract would have been a waste of money.
    But one Pro Bowl season does substantiate a huge deal the Packers would have paid him, right? Especially after Mike Sherman left the cupboard bare by all his brilliant moves, right?
    How does it feel to swing from Favre’s nuts in the offseason now that he blew the big one….AGAIN?

  43. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 12:34 PM

    # Supersuckers says: January 28, 2010 12:08 PM
    Because it was from yesterday you clown. I get bored easily.
    _____________
    If that’s the case, why post on the Holmgren thread from yesterday? You were made to look like a fool, so you left. It’s what you do, you’re a coward.
    As for looking at the surface, you should try it. You would see Thompson is 42-38 in 5 years. One playoff win. He has had 5 years, what has he accomplished that makes him so great? You say you’re looking big picture, but at some point you need to worry about the present. Thompson’s 5 year plan resulted in an embarrassing first round playoff loss where that pride and joy defense had 51 points hung on them by a completely average (14th in the league) offense.
    And with injuries and age, the future of the D doesn’t look bright, neither does the O line. Rodgers can only carry them so far, and I don’t think he can withstand many more 50 sack seasons.

  44. jeffragnarchicken says: Jan 28, 2010 12:35 PM

    Mick730 says:
    January 28, 2010 11:30 AM
    Thompson is a great GM according to his peers and a great GM to anybody who knows anything about the NFL.
    The people who “hate” him are Favrists and nitwits. Sort of redundant, but you get my drift. They demand that the Green Bay GM entertain them during the offseason and play the free agent game irregardless of how unproductive that is or how pitiful the ususal availalbe free agents may be.
    I do hope though that posters like this ragnar character keep posting so people can see for themselves what kind of losers these Favrists truly are. The funny thing is that just like “PervyHarvin”, they aren’t all 12 years old and typing away on Mommy’s computers. They’re usually middle aged men with either pathetic lives or no lives at all.
    ‘Thompson’s a fag! He’s boring and won’t entertain me every February by signing free agents so I have something to do!’ And how can he “run Mickey Mouse out of Disney Land?!!!!’
    Losers, and just like Pervy, they are consumed with homosexuals, penis size and bad grammar.
    Gotta wonder about these folks.
    ================================
    1st off genius, I’m not a packer fan. I’m entertained that TT won’t even think about FA every year, that he hoards draft picks like a child does candy. Which he usually blows by making bad picks.
    TT’s lifestyle is common knowledge. Not that there is anything wrong with it. I aim to offend everyone, that your panties are in a bunch thrills me.
    I am not consumed about the things you have listed, I am consumed by masturbation. I just rubbed one out typing this post to you. This would explain my bad spelling and grammar, as i am typing one handed.
    You are the one with no life or a pathetic one. You get all riled up at people typing crap on a message board! people you don’t even know!!
    Why do you care? It’s a trash talking site, you don’t like it, maybe you should go elsewhere.
    By the way. How big is your penis?

  45. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 12:40 PM

    Gobias
    Wahle retired because of his shoulder injury, he failed a physical. He played 4 years at a very high level, so how is that a waste of money?
    And Rivera had a good year in Dallas, he just ended up getting hurt. Who knows whether either of them get hurt in GB. They were great players, and you just don’t let great linemen leave.
    But enjoy the offseason. Should be fun to watch Ted scramble to sign all those FA’s while pinching the pennies. Good luck with that.

  46. footballrulz says: Jan 28, 2010 12:59 PM

    It looked like he farted himself out of a sound sleep. From his reaction, it appeared to be of the sand burr feeling variety.
    ____________________________
    @jeff
    I disagree with you about the DC but that’s funny.
    The vikings also dont have any glaring needs at any other position,
    @ Abigdeal
    You’re probably going to need a QB.

  47. nerd says: Jan 28, 2010 1:16 PM

    Kampman will be signed and then traded, probably for a conditional pick due to his knee injury. TT wants to keep him from becoming a Viking.
    TT is also a great GM. I would take him over Ron Wolf. Wolf was a great GM, but his strength was the later rounds, not the first round. TT has done well there. Yeah, he picked Harrell, (and I’m still not giving up on Harrell,) but Wolf picked Jamal “Too Small” Reynolds and John Micheals, among others.
    TT will sign free agents. See Ryan Pickett and Charles Woodson. He just won’t break the bank for guys like Joe Johnson, the prized free agent of Mike Sherman’s era.
    Wolf gave us Reggie and Brett, but TT gave us Rodgers and Woody.

  48. nerd says: Jan 28, 2010 1:19 PM

    Another thing: As to the Oline, McCarthy was requesting “smaller, quicker” linemen for his zone blocking scheme. This is what TT gave him. That didn’t work out. So now MM is requesting bigger, more powerful guys. So TT gave him Sitton, Spitz and Lang. That’s working out much better.
    That’s on MM, not TT.
    I also daresay the ZBS would work much better if we had a speed RB, who could make those radical cuts. I look for TT to hit on one of those this year.
    Remember that td that Brandon Jackson hit on that wide cutback late in the season? That’s what I’m talking about.
    Grant is very good, but he’s a power guy, between the tackles. His speed is adequate, but not great.

  49. JerkStore says: Jan 28, 2010 1:22 PM

    “what has he accomplished that makes him so great?”
    How about a home NFC Championship game appearance, signing the DPOY, turning one of the worst cap situations in the league into one of the most healthy, and replacing an all-time legend at QB with someone who made the pro bowl in their second season and seems poised to be the face of the franchise for the next 8 years or so?
    I’m not sure anyone is saying he is “so great”, and the Packers have holes like every other team, but he is quite good in comparsion to his peers. You keep lumping the salary-dumping, injury-riddled ’05 season into your arguments though, it sounds great.

  50. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 2:17 PM

    Also, Super, your internet name calling fits right in with the rest of your cowardice. But if you truly are that troubled by it, why don’t we have a face to face, and then you can call me an idiot? You claim you know me, but if you really don’t, we can find another way to set it up.

  51. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 2:19 PM

    Supersuckers says: January 28, 2010 1:19 PM
    Majik only a idiot such as yourself would put 4-12 on Thompson.
    ______________
    Ted’s first order of duty was to blow up the team, including the O line. 8 new starters from ’04 to ’05. But I guess those roster moves were Favre’s fault right? Yes, the finances were a mess, but teams work around these issues constantly. Rework some contracts, cut some high priced back ups. Don’t blow up your O line.
    So you don’t blame the GM for a loss, but it’s ok for you to credit him with wins? It was his personnel on the field that gave up 51 points, and his coaching hires directing those players. It can’t be both ways, if you adore him for getting 11 wins, then you have to hold him accountable for 2 losing seasons. Yes, that’s right, 2. Who’s to blame for 6-10? Is that on Favre too? Or maybe the other scapegoat Sherman?

  52. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 2:25 PM

    JerkStore
    Super has, many times, called Ted great. That’s what I was referring to. If you’re going to jump in mid conversation like a child, at least get up to speed first.
    And how about that NFC Championship game? He traded away the best player on that team. And the next year, they went 6-10. He has 1 playoff win, and 2 losing seasons in 5 years, 42-38 overall. And this is Rodgers’ 5th season, not 2nd.

  53. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 28, 2010 2:34 PM

    the 1:19 post that majik reposted got team Supersuckers kicked off. Now you all have to deal with the Hydra. He’s a nasty fella too.
    Majik you are still a idiot. It wouldnt come to name calling.

  54. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 2:40 PM

    Super/ Hydra/ Moron
    If you’re going to insult someone’s intelligence, try to use proper grammar. You us “an” before idiot, and it’s “wouldn’t” with an apostrophe.
    And what wouldn’t come to name calling?

  55. nerd says: Jan 28, 2010 2:44 PM

    I say Ted is great. I’m glad he’s our GM and I hope he stays for a long, long time.

  56. green&bold says: Jan 28, 2010 2:47 PM

    Come on people. Collins isn’t top priority because he has little leverage. Likely to be restricted. I’m sure he ranks pretty high but if you want to run the 3-4 you need a good NT. Raji isn’t quite ready and its a luxury to have them both. Collins isn’t going anywhere.
    Some of the comments on this thread are BEYOND f-in retarded. A ton of misinformed people using partial information to support misguided views.

  57. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Jan 28, 2010 2:52 PM

    jeffragnarchicken says:
    January 28, 2010 10:46 AM
    I see your point. He just isn’t a fit there and the Pack is loaded at LB. I guess it depends on the size of the contract, but they could wind up paying the guy to be on the bench. Coming off injury is there a trade market for him?
    I said that about TT earlier in the year, he would’ve gotten more for him then, pre injury, then he would now.
    ——————————
    I agree with all of this, with the possible exception of them being “loaded”. Depends on what you mean.
    If you mean they have plenty of depth, I agree completely. If you mean they’re very good… I’d shy away from that. Matthews is good. Hawk shows up now and then, but they could probably get his production for a lot cheaper. I like Chillar, but he seems inconsistent. Barnett doesn’t seem to be what he was a few years ago. Jones gets an incomplete grade, but he doesn’t seem able to rush the passer consistently. I’d like to see Bishop get more playing time. He’s made mistakes, but what young player doesn’t? He’s a playmaker and a big hitter. They need more of him.
    And I agree on Kampman. However, if they had traded him before ’09 or during the season you probably would’ve railed on Thompson for that as well.
    If they do sign Kampman with the intent to play him, I hope they work him in to rush on passing downs or sub him into a 4-3 now and then. He can’t cover guys in space. He’s got speed, but he’s far from fluid. Needs to have his hand on the ground.

  58. JerkStore says: Jan 28, 2010 3:10 PM

    Majik,
    My apologies for not reading every single comment between you and supersuckers in the history of PFT and acting like a child. If you’ll notice, I wrote “I’m not sure…”, but either way, your attitude is completely uncalled for.
    As for the NFCC game, his best player QUIT before he was traded away, both in a figurative sense during the game, and in a literal sense (with tears running down his face and everything) a few months later.
    “And the next year they went 6-10″
    And the year after, they went 11-5.
    How long do you think it will take the Colts to make the playoffs after Manning leaves? Do you think their dominance will continue without a hitch?

  59. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 28, 2010 3:14 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    January 28, 2010 2:25 PM
    JerkStore
    Super has, many times, called Ted great. That’s what I was referring to. If you’re going to jump in mid conversation like a child, at least get up to speed first.
    And how about that NFC Championship game? He traded away the best player on that team. And the next year, they went 6-10. He has 1 playoff win, and 2 losing seasons in 5 years, 42-38 overall. And this is Rodgers’ 5th season, not 2nd.
    —-
    Supersuckers became a banned site clown. Hydra is now supersuckers.
    See what I mean jerkstore about this majik dude not seeing beyond his nose? This guy has the critical thinking skills of a 10 year old. Rodgers 5 years? No kidding Majik. 2 years starting. Majik you rave on and on about 2007 and 13-3 yet you give no credit to Thompson for that season. but the two previous seasons were Thompsons fault and the following one was his fault. Like someone said earlier. Sometimes you need to take a step backward (shipping Cancer favre) to get steps forward. they took two steps forward this year. next year they will strive to take another two steps forward etc etc. I really think I knew more about the NFl at 14 years old then you do now. I honestly believe that. Everyone else on here knew more at 14 then you do now. INCLUDING PERVY!

  60. jeffragnarchicken says: Jan 28, 2010 3:17 PM

    By loaded, I did mean depth.
    I wouldn’t have railed on him, once I heard they were converting to 3-4 and they were going to make him a LB, I thought it wouldn’t work.
    I guess they had to try him, but like you said, it’s painfully obvious that he isn’t good in space.

  61. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 28, 2010 3:18 PM

    Adam I agree but I don’t think Hawk is going to be around unless he takes about a 4 million dollar paycut. They need to keep Kampman. Won’t be difficult coming off injury. Showcase him and then ship him for a pro bowl type 3-4 middle linebacker. Problem is that may have to wait until the 2011 draft.

  62. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 3:23 PM

    Super/ Hydra/ Moron
    If you’re going to insult someone’s intelligence, try to use proper grammar. You us “an” before idiot, and it’s “wouldn’t” with an apostrophe.
    And what wouldn’t come to name calling?

  63. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 28, 2010 3:24 PM

    JerkStore says:
    January 28, 2010 3:10 PM
    Majik,
    My apologies for not reading every single comment between you and supersuckers in the history of PFT and acting like a child. If you’ll notice, I wrote “I’m not sure…”, but either way, your attitude is completely uncalled for.
    As for the NFCC game, his best player QUIT before he was traded away, both in a figurative sense during the game, and in a literal sense (with tears running down his face and everything) a few months later.
    “And the next year they went 6-10″
    And the year after, they went 11-5.
    How long do you think it will take the Colts to make the playoffs after Manning leaves? Do you think their dominance will continue without a hitch?

  64. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 28, 2010 3:30 PM

    majik,
    Did you know Einstein was a rotten speller? I type so fast and don’t proofread. because i don’t care.

  65. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 3:30 PM

    Super/ Hydra/ Idiot
    I don’t rant on and on about the 13-3 season, that would be you, constantly bringing up Teddy’s meaningless trophy.
    You know nothing about football. All you do is spin things so they favor your lame arguments, like saying Thompson had no hand in 4-12, even though he blew up the roster and drafted a player who would ride pine for 3 years. And when a valid point is brought up, like 42-38, you either ignore it or run away, like the last thread where I blasted all of your incorrect predictions.
    But congrats on getting banned for the 57th time, you’re a class act. For someone who claims to never name call and talk trash, you sure do get banned a lot.
    Also, you mentioned something about how it wouldn’t come to name calling. Care to explain, or would you rather just do it in person?

  66. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 3:35 PM

    Super says:
    excellent post. majik call people out on opinions even if you preface them “in my opinion” or “im not sure” He’s just a angry bitter jaded man.
    _____________
    This is what everyone does on here genius, call people out on their opinions. Like you constantly bashing my opinions of Ted, or jeff’s opinion of the Packers’ free agent situation. Just because you preface it with one of your built in excuses doesn’t make it exempt from ridicule. It’s just unreal how incredibly clueless you are.

  67. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 3:48 PM

    JerkStore says: January 28, 2010 3:10 PM
    “And the next year they went 6-10″
    And the year after, they went 11-5.
    How long do you think it will take the Colts to make the playoffs after Manning leaves? Do you think their dominance will continue without a hitch?
    ________________
    Well, if they traded Manning away (which wouldn’t happen because their GM isn’t a retard) to insert their new QB, they had damn well better.
    Let’s say the Colts draft Sam Bradford this year with the 32nd pick. And then, 3 years from now, Manning retired after a 13-3 season which they lost in the AFC Championship. If he unretired the following spring, what do you think Polian would do? He sure as hell wouldn’t trade him, because Polian understands the importance of winning now. I’m guessing Peyton would be sporting that blue horseshoe faster than Super can whip up a Big Montana.

  68. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 28, 2010 3:53 PM

    Majik,
    you do realize ron wolf won 38 games his first four years. same as thompson. no one counts 2005 against thompson. he had a mess to clean up. just like no one counts ron wolfs 1991 games. id break your face if you are going to insist on an aswer

  69. JerkStore says: Jan 28, 2010 4:11 PM

    When Favre was going to unretire in the Spring the team WAS going to take him back.
    To be relative, Manning would need to wait until the Spring to retire, then have the Colts spend 2 draft picks on QBs, then tell the Colts he was coming back, then say “nah, forget it” than a few months later say “I’m thinking about coming back, for reals this time”, then wait a few more months (at least until all the mini camps were over and training camp was kicking off) before finally filing his reinstatement papers to actually indicate he is serious about coming back. Then after all that yes, I’m sure the Colts would take him back. My only question is, do they give Manning back his private locker room? You know, so that he doesn’t have to dress with all the suckers that go through all that offseason junk.
    Also, in your scenario, does Manning have a look on his face during the AFCC game that indicates he would rather be anywhere but playing in the game, throw a killer INT, and make several references the following offseason about how he isn’t willing to put the work into the game anymore?

  70. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Jan 28, 2010 4:34 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    January 28, 2010 3:48 PM
    Well, if they traded Manning away (which wouldn’t happen because their GM isn’t a retard) to insert their new QB, they had damn well better.
    Let’s say the Colts draft Sam Bradford this year with the 32nd pick. And then, 3 years from now, Manning retired after a 13-3 season which they lost in the AFC Championship. If he unretired the following spring, what do you think Polian would do? He sure as hell wouldn’t trade him, because Polian understands the importance of winning now. I’m guessing Peyton would be sporting that blue horseshoe faster than Super can whip up a Big Montana.
    ——————————-
    The key word in this entire post? “Spring”.
    Favre didn’t unretire in spring. At the end of spring (June 20) Favre was still retired. In fact, Favre himself was asked about it on July 2nd and he said, “It’s all rumor.” Bus cook also said, “As far as I know, Brett Favre is retired.”
    He waited too long. He tried a power play to get his job back and failed–either that, or he wanted out all along and purposely waited that long, knowing they’d trade or release him. I give Thompson all the credit in the world for sticking with his man.

  71. packers4life says: Jan 28, 2010 4:48 PM

    “Clifton, Wahle, Flannagan, Rivera, and Tauscher was the starting line when Ted took over.”
    Where is Wahle, Flanagan and Rivera now? Hmm? Last time I checked, Wahle and Rivera are retired and Flanagan is pretty close to retiring as well.

  72. slothism says: Jan 28, 2010 4:56 PM

    majikbullet – the mistake in your analogy of manning and favre is that peyton doesn’t have a multi-year fail rate in the playoffs. peyton can close the deal – brett repeatedly spit the bit. peyton is a thoroughbred, brett is ready for the glue factory.
    as a spectator i wonder if brett might not have throat cancer, being as he chokes so much.

  73. packers4life says: Jan 28, 2010 4:56 PM

    I am probably one of the few Packer fans who thinks Nick Collins isn’t that great. Yes he is a ball-hawk but he gets burned like crazy. While I do think we should resign him, I don’t think it should be as big as contract as Collins wants.
    and note to all you loser Viking fans. Go migrate somewhere else. You have no right to criticize Thompson and the Packers when you don’t know squat about them.
    “Majik you rave on and on about 2007 and 13-3 yet you give no credit to Thompson for that season. but the two previous seasons were Thompsons fault and the following one was his fault.”
    I completly agree. Majik always blames Thompson for the losing season but doesn’t give credit when Thompson earned it specifically when the Packers went 13-3 as well as this year.
    and it is clear to me that Majik is still bitter against Thompson because in just about every one of his posts, he is still whining about how Thompson drove you man-crush out of town and crap like that. He needs to get the hell over it already.

  74. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 5:25 PM

    TheHydraPart6 says: January 28, 2010 3:53 PM
    Majik,
    you do realize ron wolf won 38 games his first four years. same as thompson. no one counts 2005 against thompson. he had a mess to clean up. just like no one counts ron wolfs 1991 games. id break your face if you are going to insist on an aswer
    ______________
    I don’t count Ron Wolf’s 1991 Packers season because, well, it didn’t exist. He didn’t join the Pack until near the end of 91. So he wasn’t in charge that year. His first full season was ’92, he won a Super Bowl in his 5th year, Thompson lost a Wild Card game his 5th year, and you were an idiot when both of those things happened, as you are now, super fan.
    Like I’ve said before keyboard tough guy, I’d love a face to face meeting. Let’s set it up, so you can break my face. Send me an email.

  75. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 5:35 PM

    Adam, I was just trying to create a scenario. I know it’s not exact, but I’m just trying to point out how if your 3 time MVP first ballot HOFer wants to come back, you let him.
    As for the rest of you, ok. Ted has had 2 playoff teams, in 5 years. He’s also had 2 losing seasons, a 42-38 record, and he took over a team with 3 consecutive division titles, and 4 straight playoff appearances.

  76. jamesz23 says: Jan 28, 2010 8:34 PM

    Majik for someone who hates the Packers, their fans and the way they handle their organzation you do spend a great deal of your day on Packers stories on PFT.
    I don’t even think Deanna Favre or FOF on here would stick up for Brett as much as you do. You are just obsessed with him. What are you going to do when he retires this offseason or next – you’re going to be pretty sad.

  77. packers4life says: Jan 28, 2010 8:55 PM

    “like saying Thompson had no hand in 4-12, even though he blew up the roster and drafted a player who would ride pine for 3 years”
    I wonder why he ‘blew up the roster’? For freakin’ crying alot, Mike Sherman overpaid alot of the Packers such as KGB and Wahle and the Packers were in a very serious cap situation. Thompson had to get rid of a few players because they needed room for other free agent signings as well as rookie signings.
    Also, injuries were why the Packers went 4-12. You try playing with an undrafted rookie in Samkon Gado and Tony Fisher as the two starting RBs and Antonio Chatman as the #2 WR. You won’t do so hot either.
    Majik. Here is a suggestion……go away!

  78. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 9:45 PM

    Majik, stop picking on Ted. Majik, stop picking on my team. Majik, it’s not Ted’s fault they were 4-12, or 6-10. It was all Brett Favre’s fault. Or Mike Sherman’s fault. No, it was the injuries. Wait, it’s because of the economy, and high fuel prices.
    Maybe it was the groundskeeper who told Mumbles not to lay an egg, that’s it. Once we fired his sorry butt, the Packers started winning again. It had to be him, heck, I saw him put a green bottle in the clear plastic recycling pile.
    There’s always an excuse, isn’t there Packer fans. You rip me for defending Favre, yet I have no problem calling his poor decisions out. I’ve said on here multiple times how awful that pick was. But no matter how bad Thompson, or even Rodgers screws up, it’s never their fault. It’s always somebody else. I can’t wait for the inevitable 8-8 that is the 2010 season so I get to hear the next wave of excuses.

  79. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 28, 2010 10:11 PM

    Thompson for life Majik. You have your Vikings now. :)

  80. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 28, 2010 10:14 PM

    Majik the football idiot says,
    I don’t count Ron Wolf’s 1991 Packers season because, well, it didn’t exist. He didn’t join the Pack until near the end of 91. So he wasn’t in charge that year. His first full season was ’92, he won a Super Bowl in his 5th year, Thompson lost a Wild Card game his 5th year, and you were an idiot when both of those things happened, as you are now, super fan.
    Like I’ve said before keyboard tough guy, I’d love a face to face meeting. Let’s set it up, so you can break my face.
    —-
    I do not agree with surface thinking but playing by your rules which GM got their team to a NFC title game sooner? Wolf or Thompson?

  81. jamesz23 says: Jan 28, 2010 10:29 PM

    Who’s more grumpy Majik or Fran Tarkenton? – it’s a tossup.

  82. buck_u_pack_haterz says: Jan 28, 2010 10:51 PM

    MAJICK MAN: you cant wait for the packer inevitable 8-8 season? Guess what we can’t wait for: you lifetime vikings loser to continue your trend of NEVER WINNING A MEANINGFUL GAME. how can you even talk? you’re a lifetime loser just like your team, by the way hope mom is not giving you too much shit for not cleaning the basement(i.e your home)
    LA VIKINGS 2011

  83. Majik Bullet says: Jan 28, 2010 10:51 PM

    NFC Title loss or Super Bowl win? How are those even comparable. Keep running the mouth coward. No answer to the Ron Wolf being GM in 91 error. Come on Superfan. And you call me a football idiot, you don’t know jack. When are you planning on breaking my face fry cook?

  84. packers4life says: Jan 28, 2010 11:05 PM

    “I can’t wait for the inevitable 8-8 that is the 2010 season so I get to hear the next wave of excuses.”
    I bet that was your prediction before this season as well.
    Loser.

  85. Tompadre says: Jan 29, 2010 10:45 AM

    slothism says:
    January 28, 2010 4:56 PM
    majikbullet – the mistake in your analogy of manning and favre is that peyton doesn’t have a multi-year fail rate in the playoffs. peyton can close the deal – brett repeatedly spit the bit. peyton is a thoroughbred, brett is ready for the glue factory.
    =============================
    Check your facts before posting such a stupid comment. Manning’s playoff record, with the exception of the one Super Bowl run (which Favre has as well) is dismal at best. Check out the number of times his team flames out when having a first round bye. Check out the one and dones his team has had with him as their leader. Heading into this post season he had a losing record in the playoffs and that included his 4-0 the Super Bowl year. Don’t assume things before you jump out there with a comment.

  86. Majik Bullet says: Jan 29, 2010 11:05 AM

    Tompadre
    Don’t confuse Packer fans with facts. It takes away their ability to combat any argument. Like the genius who said the Vikes can’t win a meaningful game, even though they won a playoff game this year. I guess, according to Pack fans, playoff games aren’t meaningful unless the Packers win them or the Vikings lose them.

  87. Ruvell100 says: Jan 29, 2010 11:23 AM

    I heard on Larry’s Locker Room that TT is winning the SI Executive of the Year again.
    I’m confused and conflicted on who I should believe. Thompson’s peers at the highest level of football or a grown man who was a Packer fan in 07, a Jets fan in 08 and a die-hard Viking fan in 09 to follow around a 40 year old man.

  88. Tompadre says: Jan 29, 2010 11:23 AM

    I see all these comments about Kampman like:
    Not letting him walk, getting something for him, sign & trade him, showcase him and then ship him off for a Pro Bowl type 3-4 middle linebacker (which I assume is sarcasm) Franchise Tag him.
    Isn’t Kampman a free agent? Once free agency begins GB will no longer have his rights. He can go to whatever team he choses that shows interest in him. (Seeing he wasn’t exactly thrilled with his roll in the new defense I can’t imagine he won’t seek employment elsewhere, no matter how much he likes GB)
    Why would a team trade for him in a sign & trade when they can just sign him directly, and why would Kampman agree to a sign and trade when he can sign with another team directly.
    The only way all of this not letting him walk, get something for him, sign & trade talk works is if the Packers put the Franchise Tag on him, but that is an incredibly risky move. If he accepts the tag GB would be on the hook to pay a player, on the wrong side of 30, coming off an injury & not a great fit for there scheme, the average salary of the top five players at his position. The top five paid DEs I believe includes Peppers, Allen & Freeney. Those guys are making serious cash. I know he played LB this year but I would guess the union would argue he spent less than a season at the position and has spent his career at DE.
    I think trading him after tagging him would be near to impossible. Franchising him would be too risky. If GB really has interest in him they will either need to offer him more than he could receive elsewhere or hope other teams are scared off by his age & injury combo. The Packers just might think the money could be better spent at other positions and let a classy contributor find another place to call home.

  89. Majik Bullet says: Jan 29, 2010 11:57 AM

    Ruvell100 says: January 29, 2010 11:23 AM
    I heard on Larry’s Locker Room that TT is winning the SI Executive of the Year again.
    I’m confused and conflicted on who I should believe. Thompson’s peers at the highest level of football or a grown man who was a Packer fan in 07, a Jets fan in 08 and a die-hard Viking fan in 09 to follow around a 40 year old man.
    _______________
    Shocking to see you wrong about something, yet again. He didn’t win anything. The executive of the year award is done by Sporting News, not SI. And Bill Polian won that, not Thompson. What you are referring to is an article by Peter King, in which he also has Wes Welker and Vincent Jackson as his All Pro WR’s. This, coupled with his Favre bashing for all of 2009, should show you how valid his opinion is.
    Try listening to some real news, and not Larry’s Locker Room, and maybe you won’t sound like such an idiot.

  90. Ruvell100 says: Jan 29, 2010 11:58 AM

    Tom-
    I have never understood the sign and trade deal either. Why would a player sign a tender with a team and handicap his own decision making when he could be on the open market himself? Franchising him is out of the question, WAY too much money for a guy with his question marks.
    That said, I don’t know if you can count the guy out. He’s a warrior and a team guy. His rehab is way ahead of schedule. I think the Packers should seriously consider matching an offer sheet on him and use him as a pass rusher in sub packages. They are in sub packages most of the time anyway, and he was starting to come around in the defense before he got hurt. They have enough depth that hopefully he never has to drop into pass coverage for the rest of his career.

  91. Majik Bullet says: Jan 29, 2010 11:59 AM

    Ruvell100 says: January 29, 2010 11:23 AM
    I heard on Larry’s Locker Room that TT is winning the SI Executive of the Year again.
    I’m confused and conflicted on who I should believe. Thompson’s peers at the highest level of football or a grown man who was a Packer fan in 07, a Jets fan in 08 and a die-hard Viking fan in 09 to follow around a 40 year old man.
    _______________
    Shocking to see you wrong about something, yet again. He didn’t win anything. The executive of the year award is done by Sporting News, not SI. And Bill Polian won that, not Thompson. What you are referring to is an article by Peter King, in which he also has Wes Welker and Vincent Jackson as his All Pro WR’s. This, coupled with his Favre bashing for all of 2009, should show you how valid his opinion is.
    Try listening to some real news, and not Larry’s Locker Room, and maybe you won’t sound like such an idiot.

  92. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 29, 2010 12:08 PM

    Majik,
    thompson is considered by his peers to be one of the best. we are not going to change our minds because of what you say. you arent one of his peers.
    man you are one angry human being. i truly hope you find some serenity.

  93. Majik Bullet says: Jan 29, 2010 12:18 PM

    Ruvell100 says: January 29, 2010 11:58 AM
    Tom-
    I have never understood the sign and trade deal either. Why would a player sign a tender with a team and handicap his own decision making when he could be on the open market himself? Franchising him is out of the question, WAY too much money for a guy with his question marks.
    That said, I don’t know if you can count the guy out. He’s a warrior and a team guy. His rehab is way ahead of schedule. I think the Packers should seriously consider matching an offer sheet on him and use him as a pass rusher in sub packages. They are in sub packages most of the time anyway, and he was starting to come around in the defense before he got hurt. They have enough depth that hopefully he never has to drop into pass coverage for the rest of his career.
    __________
    A player would sign the tender because he has to. He either agrees to the franchise tender, or he doesn’t play football. This is why you hear players get mad when they get tagged, because it takes away their options, like Peppers last year.
    Teams do the sign and trade, via the franchise tag, so they don’t lose a valuable player and get nothing in return. They can at least get a draft pick in trade. But this is the only form of sign and trade. Teams don’t just sign players to a regular contract and trade them because the players aren’t handcuffed unless tagged.
    As for “matching an offer sheet,” this only applies to restricted free agents. Yes the Packers could match any offer given to Kampman, but he wouldn’t be required to stay if he didn’t want to. This is why it’s called “unrestricted free agency.”
    I’m amazed at how totally clueless you are.

  94. Majik Bullet says: Jan 29, 2010 12:23 PM

    Super
    Who’s angry? Didn’t you say you would break my face? Still waiting for that email to set up the face to face. I won’t hold my breath coward.
    And also still waiting on any kind of proof that his peers think he is so brilliant. I’ve provided articles and video clips in the past of people who think he’s an idiot, but all you do is talk. The only example you give is that of former Packer GM Ron Wolf, who obviously wouldn’t bad mouth Thompson because it would be horrible PR on Wolf’s part.

  95. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Jan 29, 2010 12:30 PM

    Ruvell100 says:
    January 29, 2010 11:58 AM
    Tom-
    I have never understood the sign and trade deal either. Why would a player sign a tender with a team and handicap his own decision making when he could be on the open market himself? Franchising him is out of the question, WAY too much money for a guy with his question marks.
    ——————————
    It might be an incentive to accept a sign and trade deal if his alternative is to be given the franchise tag and forced to play in a system he doesn’t like.

  96. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Jan 29, 2010 12:36 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    January 29, 2010 12:23 PM
    And also still waiting on any kind of proof that his peers think he is so brilliant.
    —————————-
    He did win Executive of the Year a couple years ago.. But I suppose that was all Brett’s doing.
    They go 4-12 or 6-10? “That’s because of Thompson.” Thompson wins Executive of the Year? “Well, Favre is the one to congratulate for that.”

  97. Ruvell100 says: Jan 29, 2010 12:55 PM

    Majik- I shouldn’t have worded it that way. Match an offer, not an offer sheet. Of course Kampman could go elsewhere if he wanted to, he’s unrestricted.
    Sorry, just watched Larry’s Locker Room because I was bored. I don’t rely on it as my primary news source. I was surprised when he said he was named Exec of the Year.
    What are you so angry about?

  98. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 29, 2010 1:05 PM

    http://greenbaypackerfan.blogspot.com/2008/03/packers-gm-nfl-executive-of-year.html
    there ya go Majik. Hope you enjoyed the other one I put up by mistake.

  99. Majik Bullet says: Jan 29, 2010 1:33 PM

    Good work Super, bringing up the award that Favre won him. What has he done since Favre? 17-15. That award was 2 years ago, he fooled a lot of people, just like Infante did in winning coach of the year.
    But if you want to look at that ’07 season, ok. They had 5 pro bowlers that year, guess how many Ted brought in. If you said 0, you would be right. He did draft such standouts as Harrel, Rouse, and Barbe that year though, and refused to use that Barbre pick to trade for Moss.
    The Packers rode Favre’s MVP caliber season to that 13-3 record. He would have been MVP if Brady hadn’t thrown 21 TD’s to Moss that year. There’s a reason they had the number 2 overall offense that year, and it wasn’t the 21st ranked rushing attack.
    But you keep believing Ted was responsible for all those wins, and blaming Favre for the playoff loss. It’s brilliant, really.

  100. Tompadre says: Jan 29, 2010 1:41 PM

    Just saw the franchise & transition tag numbers – DE 12 mil franchise, 10 mil transition.
    If GB tags Kampman and he signs it, they’re on the hook for a ton for a guy who has some question marks right now. If he’s tagged I don’t think a team will do the sign & trade because they won’t want to pay him that much. There might be a way that after the trade they can re-do the contract, but I can’t remember the pay stipulations for trading tagged players.
    Is Pickett that big of a priority with Raji around? If they sit on Collins doesn’t that run the chance of creating some bad blood and making it dificult for adventually agreeing on a long term deal?

  101. Majik Bullet says: Jan 29, 2010 1:45 PM

    Ruvell
    I’m angry because morons like you and Super come on here spewing idiocy about every football topic there is, and then proceed to act like you know everything. Then when proven stupid and wrong, you both either disappear or act as if it never happened. I will give you credit though, for actually admitting your mistakes once in a great while.

  102. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 29, 2010 2:07 PM

    Majik I dont blame favre for losses or compliment ted for wins. I know it goes much deeper then that. i use your own arguments against you. such as super rodgers couldnt get the job done in az. i think you know that wasnt the case. if you really believe that then you are indeed a football idiot. id like to think you dont really believe it.

  103. Majik Bullet says: Jan 29, 2010 2:58 PM

    Super, I don’t 100% blame Rodgers for that loss. But it’s hard to argue he didn’t choke at the end. He held the ball for 3+ seconds, then took a sack from a blitzer who came from his line of sight, and still coughed it up. That’s a horrible play, and it cost them the game.
    And don’t say Rodgers had to make a play or they lose, that’s why he held it. I’m aware as well as everyone else how their defense was getting abused, I even told you it was going to happen the week before. But the Packers do have the best defensive player in the league, so who knows what would have happened if the Birds got the ball.

  104. Ruvell100 says: Jan 29, 2010 4:20 PM

    Majik-
    Honest question. Would you place equal blame on Rodgers and Favre for their respective playoff losses this year?

  105. Ruvell100 says: Jan 29, 2010 4:30 PM

    Ragner says:
    1st off genius, I’m not a packer fan. I’m entertained that TT won’t even think about FA every year, that he hoards draft picks like a child does candy. Which he usually blows by making bad picks.
    TT’s lifestyle is common knowledge. Not that there is anything wrong with it. I aim to offend everyone, that your panties are in a bunch thrills me.
    I am not consumed about the things you have listed, I am consumed by masturbation. I just rubbed one out typing this post to you. This would explain my bad spelling and grammar, as i am typing one handed.
    You are the one with no life or a pathetic one. You get all riled up at people typing crap on a message board! people you don’t even know!!
    Why do you care? It’s a trash talking site, you don’t like it, maybe you should go elsewhere.
    By the way. How big is your penis?
    _____________________
    Jeff, this may be the post of the year. But I still think you’re an idiot.

  106. Majik Bullet says: Jan 29, 2010 6:51 PM

    Ruvell
    I would not put equal blame on Favre an Rodgers, but pretty close. Rodgers put his team in an early hole with his first pass. Favre led his team to 7 points on his first drive.
    Both guys had horrible turnovers at the end, the difference being Favre’s pick led to overtime, while Rodgers’ fumble was the final, end all play. The Saints’ winning drive was set up by a coin flip and a kick off. The Cardinals winning drive was a Rodgers fumble.
    Yes, Favre’s pick took away a chance at a 56 yard field goal, but that’s not exactly a given. I know Longwell is a great kicker, but so are Kaeding and Rackers, and we saw how well they fared with much easier kicks.
    But, both plays were equally bone headed and awful, no excuse for either one. It’s just that Rodgers’ was just more immediately devastating.

  107. badfish69 says: Jan 30, 2010 12:39 AM

    Rodgers fumble was a killer, but he should have hit Jennings on the first play to end it. That stuff doesn’t bother me at this point though. I expect a guy who has only started 33 career games to maybe try to do to much and make mistakes. Dude probably had the greatest 2nd half performance in Packer playoff history. He at least deserves some props for that.
    What I don’t expect is a guy who has started something like 5000 games to throw across his body to the middle of the field for a pick. Especially considering if he would have run it would have been a 50 yd try or if he would have actually thrown it to the guy the play was designed to go to it probably would have been around a 45 yd. try.
    Brett Favre is a great QB, but blowing up in the playoffs is not a new trend with him. 4-7 now since 1998 with some pretty good teams around him.

  108. packers4life says: Jan 30, 2010 12:40 AM

    “It’s just that Rodgers’ was just more immediately devastating.”
    Dude what the hell has Rodgers done to deserve the crap you give him on this site? I mean, seriously. Are you just that upset about him replacing the old man? Sure he put his team in a hole early but he still managed to lead them back from behind, something you seem to skip in your post.
    “Rodgers put his team in an early hole with his first pass. Favre led his team to 7 points on his first drive.”
    You are probably the only person that thinks that stat is relevant. Well, it isn’t. What matters is that Rodgers scored a total of 5 touchdowns in his playoff game while Favre only had 1.
    and Favre put his team in an even bigger hole with his last pass.

  109. badfish69 says: Jan 30, 2010 10:36 AM

    People like Majik give Rodgers crap because they are projecting their contempt for Thompson on to him. If Favre would have stayed retired in 2008 they would be here saying the same things about him that we are. It’s sad really. Not liking a guy because of something he had no control over all because of an emotional attachment to number 4.

  110. Majik Bullet says: Jan 30, 2010 11:11 AM

    packers4life
    Wow, what a moronic post. I give Rodgers crap because he deserves it. I don’t put him on a pedestal like Pack fans do, I realize he actually does make mistakes. But I have also acknowledged, many times, how good of a player he is. I don’t see how mentioning how he fumbled or threw a pick is “giving him crap.” It’s simply recalling events that took place. On a side note, what has Favre done to you, personally, to cause you to hate him so much and rip on him like you do? 2 way street man.
    And if you really think Rodgers’ pick on the first offensive play is irrelevant, you have hands down taken the #1 idiot spot away from Supersuckers, not an easy task. How can throwing a pick on the first drive and immediately going down by 7 points, on the road, be irrelevant? That pick and early score set up the entire shootout tempo of the game. A play like that rattles the entire offense, as evidenced by the turnover on the next drive, and 17-0 hole. And the short field TD shakes up the D, as evidenced by the 51 points on the board.
    Favre’s pick didn’t put them in a hole, it took away a long shot scoring opportunity. Both of Rodgers’ turnovers led to TDs. Favre’s pick at the end of the game led to overtime. NO got the ball for the game winning drive via a coin flip, not a turnover.
    I know you hate Favre, and you feel like a scorned lover, but try not to let it effect your ability to think rationally. This is, of course, assuming you ever possessed that ability, which, after reading some of your posts, is in doubt.

  111. Majik Bullet says: Jan 30, 2010 11:16 AM

    badfish
    Never said I don’t like Rodgers, he’s a good young player. He has flaws, and comes off as a bit arrogant, but most NFL players do.
    It’s just that I have the ability to see the mistakes Rodgers makes, and not blame someone else for them. I think that, if he figures a few things out, he could be really good. But when Thompson traded Favre in favor of Rodgers, he traded away the better player, which is what made me mad. It has nothing to do with Rodgers, and I have no problem with him. Just because I’m able to find flaws in his game, and realize he’s not perfect doesn’t mean I hate him, it just means I’m not a homer.

  112. Majik Bullet says: Jan 30, 2010 1:32 PM

    badfish
    Never said I don’t like Rodgers, he’s a good young player. He has flaws, and comes off as a bit arrogant, but most NFL players do.
    It’s just that I have the ability to see the mistakes Rodgers makes, and not blame someone else for them. I think that, if he figures a few things out, he could be really good. But when Thompson traded Favre in favor of Rodgers, he traded away the better player, which is what made me mad. It has nothing to do with Rodgers, and I have no problem with him. Just because I’m able to find flaws in his game, and realize he’s not perfect doesn’t mean I hate him, it just means I’m not a homer.

  113. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Jan 30, 2010 6:03 PM

    Wow, that worked incredibly well. I predicted what a douche would say, then the douche went ahead and said it.
    =========================
    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    January 29, 2010 12:36 PM
    He did win Executive of the Year a couple years ago.. But I suppose that was all Brett’s doing.
    They go 4-12 or 6-10? “That’s because of Thompson.” Thompson wins Executive of the Year? “Well, Favre is the one to congratulate for that.”
    =========================
    Majik Bullet says:
    January 29, 2010 1:33 PM
    Good work Super, bringing up the award that Favre won him. What has he done since Favre? 17-15.

  114. rcpecook says: Jan 30, 2010 7:02 PM

    Someday down the road if he were to turn traitor and go to work for the vikings the fans would be smooching his hinder and saying how wonderful he is.

  115. badfish69 says: Jan 30, 2010 10:27 PM

    Majik,
    I actually agree with you that at the time of the trade Brett Favre was the better player, but how long can the inevitable be delayed? Let’s say that they let Brett come back for 2008. Now maybe they win the Super Bowl or maybe not. With Brett’s history in big playoff games I would tend to say they wouldn’t have, but you may have a differing opinion on that.
    Well now Favre has played the 2008 season for the Packers and Rodgers sits the bench for his 4th straight season. Guess what? Teddy boy is in the exact same predicament again only this time the 1st round draft pick who is ready to see the field contract is going to expire. So now what? If Favre comes back (which he would have wanted to) Rodgers walks. If you tell Favre your moving on, your in the same position we are in now.
    See? Delaying the inevitable.
    Favre couldn’t win the Super Bowl with the talented Vikings this year. Couldn’t do it when Ahman Green was piling up 2000 all purpose yds, and couldn’t do it when the Giants practically handed them the game with missed field goals. What makes you think the would have brought the Packers there in 2008?

  116. Majik Bullet says: Jan 31, 2010 3:10 PM

    Adam
    Way to go, you predicted I would say something that I’ve already said before. Good work, Miss Cleo.

  117. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Jan 31, 2010 3:14 PM

    Majik, it just highlights your unbelievable hatred for Ted Thompson.. 4-12? That’s all Ted. Favre and his inability to throw passes to his own team had NOTHING to do with that. Ted wins executive of the year? Oh, well Favre is the only reason.
    Get a life. Anytime you try to play yourself off as objective you should be slapped.

  118. Majik Bullet says: Jan 31, 2010 3:18 PM

    badfish
    I never said he would lead them to the Super Bowl, just that he gave them a lot better chance. And as a GM, the job is to field the best team possible to give you the best chance of winning.
    I understand that teams need to worry about the future, but they also need to worry about the present. If any team other than Green Bay pulled that move, then followed it up with a 6-10 disaster, they would have empty seats. But the blind faith, never questioning Packer fanbase just lets it go, and makes excuses for what has proven to be a terrible choice.

  119. Majik Bullet says: Jan 31, 2010 3:26 PM

    4-12 wasn’t all Ted, and yes, Favre did play very poorly. He tried to do too much with the very little Ted gave him to work with. It seemed to me that he almost wanted to fail that year so he could justify firing Sherman and trying to push Favre out the door.
    And yes, Favre is the main reason Ted won that award. He carried that team all year. Terrible running game. Average defense. Number 2 offense in the league, even with the 21st ranked rushing attack. 13-3 that year with Brett, 6-10 the next season with the same team minus Favre.

  120. packers4life says: Jan 31, 2010 5:20 PM

    “I know you hate Favre, and you feel like a scorned lover, but try not to let it effect your ability to think rationally. This is, of course, assuming you ever possessed that ability, which, after reading some of your posts, is in doubt.”
    Where in any of my posts did I say I hated Favre? Hm? I said I don’t like Favre the VIKING. I did not say I didn’t like Favre the PACKER.
    and just because alot of Packer fans remained loyal to their team and started cheering for Rodgers doesn’t make them Favre haters.
    “On a side note, what has Favre done to you, personally, to cause you to hate him so much and rip on him like you do? 2 way street man.”
    Oh I don’t know. Maybe because he plays for the Vikings? Yes I know what he has done to Green Bay but as long as he plays for a hated rival, I don’t like him. Simple as that. And I am not the only one who thinks that. There are plenty of Packer fans out there that have the same reason. If he was playing for a different team though, Packer fans wouldn’t really care all that much but it is a completly different story when he signed on to one if not the most hated team for Packer fans.

  121. Majik Bullet says: Jan 31, 2010 6:39 PM

    You don’t have to come out and say you hate him to make it apparent. Your words and opinions are pretty strong indicators of your true feelings. It’s OK little guy, don’t get so worked up.

  122. badfish69 says: Jan 31, 2010 6:57 PM

    Majik,
    I don’t see how it has proven to be a terrible choice. I would agree with you if Brett would have led his new team to the Super Bowl one of the last couple of years, but that’s not the case. Last year the Packers missed the playoffs as did Brett and the Jets. This year well we all know what happened. If you look at just wins and losses you may have a point, but in the end the only thing that matters is making the playoffs and winning games. In that category Brett is one game better than the Packers in two years. To me that doesn’t prove anything.
    You say Packer fans just follow blindly and make excuses? Maybe some do, but I know many Packer fans who are critical of both Thompson and McCarthy. Just because they don’t bolt and go cheer for the Vikings doesn’t mean they don’t question.
    Players, coaches, and front office personnel come and go, but the G on the side of the helmet remains constant. Packer fans will stand behind the players that wear that helmet, and that’s the way it should be.

  123. Majik Bullet says: Jan 31, 2010 8:42 PM

    Favre has won 5 more games the last 2 seasons, not 1, including a playoff win. The move also split the fanbase in GB. This is why it’s a failure.

  124. badfish69 says: Jan 31, 2010 9:13 PM

    I know he has won more regular season in two years. My point is the main goal is playoff appearances and wins and in that category Favre is 1 ahead with no Super Bowl appearances.
    As far as splitting the fanbase, that is an emotional argument. It is not a GM’s job to make decisions based on emotion. The fanbase isn’t as split as you think it is anymore. The more fans see what Aaron Rodgers is capable of the more are seeing and understanding Thompson’s thinking on the move. From where I am standing I see less and less people who are clinging to the “Brett should still be here.” argument.

  125. PurpleRaid12 says: Feb 2, 2010 12:13 AM

    A man in a bar leans over to the guy next to him and says, “Wanna hear a joke about Packer fans?”
    The guy next to him replies, “Well before you tell that joke you should know something. I’m 6′ tall and 220 pounds and I’m a Packer fan. The guy sitting next to me is 6’2″ tall, 240 pounds and he’s a Packer fan, and the guy sitting next to him is 6’5″ 280 pounds and he’s a Packer fan too.
    Now, do you still wanna tell that joke?”
    The man says, “Nah, not if I’m gonna have to explain it three
    times.”

  126. Ambrose says: Feb 2, 2010 1:46 PM

    PurpleRaid12 says:
    February 2, 2010 12:13 AM
    A man in a bar leans over to the guy next to him and says, “Wanna hear a joke about Packer fans?”
    __________________________________
    No.

  127. PurpleRaid12 says: Feb 2, 2010 7:46 PM

    That’s not how the story goes Ambrose…..

  128. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 4, 2010 1:42 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    January 31, 2010 3:26 PM
    4-12 wasn’t all Ted, and yes, Favre did play very poorly. He tried to do too much with the very little Ted gave him to work with. It seemed to me that he almost wanted to fail that year so he could justify firing Sherman and trying to push Favre out the door.
    And yes, Favre is the main reason Ted won that award. He carried that team all year. Terrible running game. Average defense. Number 2 offense in the league, even with the 21st ranked rushing attack. 13-3 that year with Brett, 6-10 the next season with the same team minus Favre.
    —————————
    Revisionist history abounds. Key defensive injuries in 2008. You want to complain about the “average defense” in 2007? Look at the decline in the defense’s performance between 2007 and 2008.
    And the offensive numbers between 2007 and 2008 were very similar. Love how you try playing off the fall from 13-3 to 6-10 as all Rodgers. You’re a loon.

  129. shaggytoodle says: Feb 4, 2010 4:53 PM

    The reason we lost 08 is we lost the CLOSE games Rodgers would give us a lead or tie it within 7 minutes or less in the fourth and the Defesnse would let the other team just march right down the field. Our defense played well for the most part of the season, and it showed how good the Packers future could be with both side of the ball as long as they are able to sure up O line and add depth to the secondary.

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