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PFTV looks at the Favre conundrum

As we load up the ’68 VW bus and commence the long trip to South Florida, it’s time to empty out the PFTV hopper.

And here’s one that has a shelf-life of at least six months.

It’s the annual Favre story, including whether the Vikings will or should want him back.

 
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  1. DoughBoyRAC says: Jan 29, 2010 7:13 AM

    Zzzzzzzzz!
    Thank God all the REAL greats had the class and dignity (and the absence of selfishness) to retire when it was time!

  2. PackFanNChiTown says: Jan 29, 2010 7:29 AM

    Any decision he makes is irrelevant, he’ll still change his mind come August.
    Chilly has already proven he’ll tell TJ and Rosenfel “you get the right to compete” to their face then stab them in the back by groveling to The Farve to come back.
    This is SUCH a non-story…

  3. JimmySmith says: Jan 29, 2010 7:44 AM

    The most obvious observation is that it’s the Vikings problem now; you wanted him, now you got him, flaws and all. True he had a magical season but his worst flaw, the single flaw that would cause a GM to push out a HOF QB, is choking in the playoffs and Favre did not disappoint in that regard as evidenced by the INT’s last week.
    His second biggest flaw is his Narcissistic personality disorder, which showed up in the Arz game and contributed mightily to their late season swoon causing them to lose home field advantage which surely will have resulted in a Superbowl berth. This disorder can be blunted by a strong head coach but with Mr. Caspar Milquetoast roaming the sidelines, we all know how that is going to end.
    Favre’s third biggest drawback is his annual (6 or 7th year by now, lost track) will he or won’t he retirement dance. Now watch what happens this week with Kurt Warner to see how it is handled with class (no matter what the final decision will be). Not so with Favre, reason is his Narcissistic personality disorder wouldn’t allow him to miss out on the media spotlight. The best news of all goes back to it’s the Vikings problem now and in many ways, its karma for the franchise that is as classless as it is trophy-less.

  4. oldschool says: Jan 29, 2010 7:57 AM

    What the F…. is a CONUNDRUM?….are they made by Trojan?

  5. milesaustinisgay says: Jan 29, 2010 8:04 AM

    wow! just yet another media outlet that is infatuated with favre. (are you sure you’re not really owned by abc?)
    you should know that most people who frequent this site are probably more serious fans than the average shmoe and serious fans are
    SICK OF THAT DOUCHE BAG!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. snh7997 says: Jan 29, 2010 8:11 AM

    #1 Career Wins
    #1 Career Completions
    #1 Career Passing Touchdowns
    #1 Career Consecutive Starts
    #1 Career Passing Yards
    Maybe that’s what he meant by “going out on top”.

  7. Larry David says: Jan 29, 2010 8:17 AM

    Why the hell do you keep saying whether the Vikings want him back or not!? What are smoking? You think they would rather have the Sage/Tarvaris combo platter than one of the greatest Qb’s of all time?

  8. bearsrule says: Jan 29, 2010 8:23 AM

    Just like “schism”. you’ll have to explain to Viking fans what a “conundrum” is.

  9. jeffragnarchicken says: Jan 29, 2010 8:33 AM

    Yep and you’ll have to explain words like quarterback, wide receiver and playoffs to the Bear fans.
    They haven’t had any of those in Chicago in a long time.

  10. Brian says: Jan 29, 2010 8:36 AM

    Think about how hard it would be for you to walk away from a job you’ve loved for 30 years.
    Yes Favre is old.
    Yes Favre throws a lot of interceptions.
    Also remember for the Vikings, the team was on the doorstep last year and was a quarterback away. With TJack, the Vikings win 10 games in 2009 DESPITE the quarterback. With Sage, the Vikings win 10 games. Who wouldn’t take a proven veteran at that point?
    Please keep in mind Childress is a horrible coach. Ummmm, aaaaahhhh, ummmm ahhhhhh, well aahhhh. I guesss, aaaaaah the 12 men in the huddle was aaaaaahh kind of my fault aaaaaahhhhh.
    Of course the Vikings want Favre back because he is better than any of the options they have. Want to blame someone for how much of a diva Favre is? Blame the Packers organization. If they had put a stop to it 4 years ago when he first started to think about retiring or not, they wouldn’t be in this position.

  11. hrmlss says: Jan 29, 2010 8:36 AM

    Prediction: Favre will retire next Saturday. That way Superbowl weekend will be all about him.

  12. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Jan 29, 2010 8:38 AM

    What should happen: Favre sits down very soon with the Vikings and works out an agreement that he’ll attend some the offseason workouts, but for the most part stays at home until training camp. He also agrees to hire a trainer to keep in shape. Then Favre and the Vikings announce their plan. Everything is out in the open and done. Then there is no story.
    Of course this won’t happen because this is Favre, and he has to play his off-season games. As does Chilly. Plus Favre wants their to be a story, because he likes his name mentioned every 30 seconds on ESPN.
    Look, Favre’s coming back, and you can’t blame him. The fans in Minnesota still want him, as well as the org and players. Plus he stands to make $13 million next year. He and everyone else knows the Vikings are a better team with him than without. But if you’re a 40-year-old QB and a team is willing to pay you $13 million, you don’t play offseason games with them. That will turn the fans and org and players against as much as anything you do on the field could.

  13. benniehifive says: Jan 29, 2010 8:46 AM

    Favre doesn’t have nearly as many troubles as the media likes to drum up for him. I also really love the fact that all the Favre haters are out thumping their chests triumphiantly proclaiming that he ‘choked’ again…did you watch the game? if you’d like to point fingers then you should really look at the entire team. how many sacks did the mighty Jarred Allen have? how about the rest of the line? what…one sack? how many fumbles did the rest of the team have? no no no, you’re right…Favre choked again. if only he were better the vikings would be in the super bowl. give me a break. you’d think that a web site like this would have more intelligent football fans…I’m gonna go ahead and guess that the smarter ones just don’t comment as much.

  14. MrHumble says: Jan 29, 2010 8:52 AM

    DoughboyRAC says “the real GREATS know to retire when it is time”….i’m not a vikings fan but how the hell do you say “when it is time” after the year BF just had??? People have the right to like or dislike BF but comments like Doughboy’s shows he knows little about football and when a players skills have eroded to the point that it is obvious they should retire.
    As for JimmySmith…I visit all teams web/fan sites and you should try to do the same before you post. I realize many people live with an infliction of “perception becoming reality” but if it is correct to call BF a “choker”, then every QB who does not win the SB would have to be categorized as the same…….would that then include A Rodgers, as it is well known that JJ is a Packer fan. I try not to let the “trash talkin’ posters” idiotic opinions bother me but sometimes you wonder what world these people live in…..I guess it’s just too easy to make idiotic internet posts when you can hide behind a anonymous title. Like or dislike BF’s wishy washy retirement, I can understand THAT but to “pretend” that he is not one of the best 3 QB’s in the history of football only makes you look like a fool. Anyone who reads posts like that are now “that much dumber for having done so!!!”

  15. Floyd the Barber says: Jan 29, 2010 8:52 AM

    Conundrum? What conundrum?
    You keep making a story out of a non-story.
    Clue: If Favre decides to retire, proceed with what you have. No harm, no foul.
    If Favre says he’s coming back in March, June or August – great! If Jackson or Rosenfels don’t like it, it’s 2 versus 51. It’s probably the same ratio in Arizona. Maybe 0 to 53 there since Leinart looks like the kind of guy who doesn’t mind collecting big bucks without getting bruised.

  16. Occam says: Jan 29, 2010 9:02 AM

    Nice job not talking about Favre. Well done.

  17. radioboy20010 says: Jan 29, 2010 9:08 AM

    From Wikipedia:
    Most Passes Intercepted, Career, 316, Brett Favre, 1991-Present.
    Interceptions in one playoff game: 6, verses St. Louis Rams.
    Interceptions to end playoff runs, Philadelphia, New York Giants, New Orleans Saints.
    Brent Gump is the greatest fantasy football league QB ever, without a doubt. But there is no Lombardi Trophy for fantasy leagues. He has one Super Bowl win(same as Trent Dilfer), one loss in the Super Bowl, and a bunch of other playoff appearances that led to futility.
    Gump has Mike Holmgren to thank for keeping him on the rails during the Super Bowl run. Notice what happened after Holmgren left .
    His “retirement” last year led to the Jets getting Sanchez. Lucky break there, or Rex Ryan would be singing an even louder version of the playoff heartbreak news.
    His goal was to get to the Vikings to win a Super Bowl. Even with the best personnel in the league, he leads them to yet another shot at futility.
    And all of that happened in front of Bud Grant at the Superdome.
    Good luck Vikings,(snicker) no, on second thought, enjoy the angst of the retirement vigil that the Packers fans sat through for 5 years.

  18. tobychu says: Jan 29, 2010 9:09 AM

    @Brian:
    “Want to blame someone for how much of a diva Favre is? Blame the Packers organization. If they had put a stop to it 4 years ago when he first started to think about retiring or not, they wouldn’t be in this position.”
    Are you serious….it’s the Packers fault? Man are you ignorant.

  19. LeRoy36 says: Jan 29, 2010 9:12 AM

    hrmlss says:
    January 29, 2010 8:36 AM
    Prediction: Favre will retire next Saturday. That way Superbowl weekend will be all about him.
    ————-
    And then unretire come August – after summer camp and preseason.

  20. FB Fan 67 says: Jan 29, 2010 9:34 AM

    Mr Humble, let’s not get carried away. Most experts have him around #5, never higher. There are people above him that were just better in high-stake situations and I would add Bart Starr to the usual list (Unitas, Montana, Graham, etc.)

  21. TheDPR says: Jan 29, 2010 9:39 AM

    Favre is the Andy Reid of QBs. Wins a lot of regular season games. Gets to the playoffs a lot. Doesn’t win championships and when he loses, he loses ugly and stupid.

  22. Krow says: Jan 29, 2010 9:44 AM

    Babble about retirement… juice hard… flush them out… show up late for camp. Brett Favre 2010 edition… watch and see.

  23. Beer N Donuts says: Jan 29, 2010 9:47 AM

    The worst part about this whole scenario is that even if the Vikings decide to move on from Favre, he could simply offer up his services to Arizona, assuming that Kurt Warner retires today.
    They don’t run a Favresque offense, but they certainly have the receivers that Minnesota doesn’t, and I cannot believe that they are ready to throw their support behind Matty L. unless they absolutely have to.
    Why not bring in a one year mercenary (because that’s what Favre is now) to go for one last shot at glory before they move Boldin.

  24. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Jan 29, 2010 9:48 AM

    Don’t listen to the haters, Mike. Keep the Favre stories coming. I’m eating it up.

  25. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 29, 2010 9:48 AM

    jeffragnarchicken says:
    January 29, 2010 8:33 AM
    Yep and you’ll have to explain words like quarterback, wide receiver and playoffs to the Bear fans.
    They haven’t had any of those in Chicago in a long time.
    ——
    Chicago was in a Super Bowl a few years back…I think?? No one remembers second place so I could be wrong.

  26. iusedtobeteddybayer says: Jan 29, 2010 10:01 AM

    Snh7997:
    And all that=1 ring. One.
    One is the lonelinest number…

  27. Billy The Kid says: Jan 29, 2010 10:02 AM

    radioboy20010 says:
    January 29, 2010 9:08 AM
    Brent Gump is the greatest fantasy football league QB ever, without a doubt. But there is no Lombardi Trophy for fantasy leagues. He has one Super Bowl win(same as Trent Dilfer), one loss in the Super Bowl, and a bunch of other playoff appearances that led to futility.
    ————————-
    I love how d-bags like you minimize his one Super Bowl win by saying “same as Trent Dilfer”.
    How about…
    “same as Steve Young”
    “one more than Dan Marino”
    “one more than Jim Kelly”
    “same as Peyton Manning”
    “same as Kurt Warner”
    There’s been 43 Super Bowl champions led by 26 different QB’s. Favre was one of them. If you want to talk about how Brett Favre has been miserable in the playoffs LATELY, you have a case. But what Favre-haters can’t do is minimize the fact that he’s won a Super Bowl…something only 25 other Quarterbacks have done.
    Now continue with your hate………

  28. joe_mama_besser says: Jan 29, 2010 10:09 AM

    Why do people forget about the history of Favre and say, “OH, but he got us so close to the Super Bowl. Next year will be different.” ??
    UUHHH.. I think they’ve been saying that since after the 1997 season, which was the last Super Bowl he played in. In the Super Bowl in which his team won, he wasn’t even the MVP. The MVP was a kickoff and punt returner!
    Every year since then, either he has played poorly during the regular season, or he has choked in the playoffs. Every year. How will next year be any different?? It won’t, assuming he “retires” so he can skip training camp.. then returns at the last minute and plays another season, and then history repeats itself.
    We can only hope that this drama queen will finally do us all a favor and retire for good and disappear forever. I’ve never seen a more selfish person in all of pro sports.

  29. Pervy Harvin says: Jan 29, 2010 10:24 AM

    The world and the NFL are not ready to lose Favre. He makes the NFL fun. There is one city though that wants him to retire…he will always own them.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeH4YRkZi3w&feature=related

  30. gopher says: Jan 29, 2010 10:42 AM

    Why should he retire if he does not want to? Have you people looked at the talent within the league at QB, it is sad. He had a great year and regardless of all the talking heads he did not lose the champonship game all by himself. I think you who follow football saw the Colts without Manning, it is that way with most teams and I’m talking about starters not backups.

  31. TheHydraPart6 says: Jan 29, 2010 10:53 AM

    I thought this was interesting analysis.
    http://ballhype.com/video/favre-blows-it-husband-reacts-video/

  32. RWFV says: Jan 29, 2010 10:56 AM

    The only people talking about Favre’s return are the media and people who hate Favre and the Vikings. As a Viking fan right now I could care less if he retires or comes back. Give it a rest already.

  33. jx4cmario1 says: Jan 29, 2010 11:17 AM

    RWFV says:
    January 29, 2010 10:56 AM
    The only people talking about Favre’s return are the media and people who hate Favre and the Vikings. As a Viking fan right now I could care less if he retires or comes back.
    ———————————————-
    I certainly do not hate Favre or the Vikes, quite the opposite actually, and I care quite a bit whether or not he comes back. I love the daily Favre stories, they get the jealous trolls out in full force, (and yes Jimmy we did want him, and yes we did get him) It’s awesome. They call Favre a diva for having stories written about him daily, when he’s not made a public appearance since he was required to do so after the game. Not a very good diva. It makes me laugh when they say stuff about retiring with class, their jealousy and bitterness could not be more obvious.

  34. footballrulz says: Jan 29, 2010 11:18 AM

    Ok Mike–you’re splitting more hairs than in that part on your head. How ’bout this.
    Brett Favre, if he retires (please, please, please) is going out on top–of his game. Does that make you feel better? The man is 40 years old, just completed what was probably his 2nd or 3rd best season in his career, got his butt kicked all over the Superdome and did not miss one down of play. How in the world can you say he is not going out on top? In your world only Elway, Bettis & Strahan went out on top. I’ll bet Montana, Marino, Young, Emmitt Smith and a whole lot of other HOF’ers would disagree with you.

  35. Ambrose says: Jan 29, 2010 11:27 AM

    I don’t think he should be referenced as “one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.” He should be called “one of the most experienced, knowledgeable, and durable quarterbacks of all time.” He has no more SuperBowl trophies than Trent Dilfer, and he has personally blown more than his fair shown of deep advancement into postseason opportunities than anyone deserves (interceptions/losses to Phil, NY, NO…just to name a few.)

  36. Billy The Kid says: Jan 29, 2010 11:31 AM

    joe_mama_besser says:
    January 29, 2010 10:09 AM
    UUHHH.. I think they’ve been saying that since after the 1997 season, which was the last Super Bowl he played in. In the Super Bowl in which his team won, he wasn’t even the MVP. The MVP was a kickoff and punt returner!
    ————————-
    What the hell does winning a SB MVP have anything to do with it? Favre won the regular season MVP that year…if you want to talk MVP’s.
    Further…
    Favre was 14-27, 246 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT that game.
    Peyton Manning was 25-38, 247 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT when he beat the Bears in the SB…Manning won MVP (when Dominic Rhodes should have won it to be honest).
    In other words, your SB MVP angle makes no sense.

  37. onlineinsite says: Jan 29, 2010 11:35 AM

    As I Vikings fan, I was skeptical about Favre coming to MN. But he was amazing in every respect. An amazing teammate, mentor, and warrior. And it’s comical to see all of you “haters” ignore his stats ALL YEAR LONG. He led the league in TD/INT ratio among starters (among many other categories). It speaks for itself when a team with 10 Pro Bowlers are all wanting him back – to the point where they don’t even care if he shows at camp! That’s how big a part of this team he is, and hopefully WILL be in the 2010 season.
    I think Favre will be back, but I think it’s understandable that he needs some time to really evaluate his ability to play at the same level for an entire season. Favre is NOT like so many guys that play past their prime and are forced to be benched. Once he is SURE that he can do it (around August!) he’ll be back…

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