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PFT Daily: Philly's quarterback quagmire

The Eagles have a good problem: they have too many quarterbacks.

Kevin Kolb’s comments Tuesday pushed the story forward, and makes Florio wonder if Donovan McNabb could push a little harder for a contract extension.

Without further adieu, here’s the latest edition of America’s most watched daily internet football video that tapes in West Virginia.

 
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47 Responses to “PFT Daily: Philly's quarterback quagmire”
  1. Hap says: Feb 17, 2010 12:51 PM

    The Eag’s qb situation is a mess.

  2. Karl says: Feb 17, 2010 12:51 PM

    The solution is very easy. Dump the dog killer.

  3. Mooch says: Feb 17, 2010 1:00 PM

    When is McNabb roster bonus due? And does that not tip off every team as to when the internal deadline to deal McNabb is?
    I know it comes before the draft.
    Too bad that Jerry “Isaih Thomas” Jones is not in need of a QB. If Joey Galloway and Roy Williams commanded such high compensation we’d surely be able to get six #1′s for Donovan.

  4. aloud2judge says: Feb 17, 2010 1:02 PM

    Is that a new horse or the same ‘ole one?
    PFT: Don’t know, but lets beat it anyway.

  5. rh44 says: Feb 17, 2010 1:02 PM

    Change the horrible headline, Greg. No quagmire has 2 to 3 ways out, each leading to high draft picks and a youth::experience ratio.

  6. DonCornelious says: Feb 17, 2010 1:03 PM

    The video is great in the beginning, but once that bozo comes on to talk it all goes downhill.

  7. kinghill says: Feb 17, 2010 1:05 PM

    If there is any truth to the rumor McNabb, R. Brown and Demps are being traded for Peppers and a safety, wouldn’t it make sense to lock down Kolb before that deal is announced?

  8. gopher says: Feb 17, 2010 1:05 PM

    I think the Eagles will do something and I think that something is trading McNabb. The Eagles could demand and get what they want as many teams need a good qb and I do not think the draft provides the qb the other teams are looking for.

  9. Bill In DC says: Feb 17, 2010 1:07 PM

    The Eagles have a ‘bad’ QB problem. True, they have 1 good QB (McNabb), 1 probably good, but not proven yet QB (Kolb), and 1 limited QB (Vick). The problem is ALL THREE HAVE ONE YEAR LEFT ON THEIR CONTRACTS. So the Eagles are going to be forced to pick one, either Kolb or McNabb, and try to trade the other to get some value for them. Kolb isn’t going to accept a long term contract with ‘back up’ QB money and, if they extend McNabb, Kolb will leave. Same is true of McNabb/Kolb. It isn’t a good place for the Eagles to be in.

  10. karmathaitch says: Feb 17, 2010 1:09 PM

    Simple solution. Draft pick for Donavan. He proved he cant win the big games. Philly should of had (2) rings on his watch already.
    Let Kolb and the dog whispers fight it out to see who leads this team into the promise land.
    By no means, get rid of Kolb. I should be the GM

  11. Citizen Strange says: Feb 17, 2010 1:30 PM

    And without further aufedersein, sayonara and hasta maƱana … later dudesicle!

  12. TylerDurden says: Feb 17, 2010 1:33 PM

    Umm, this is dumb. McNabb is the QB. Period. If the Iggles let him go, they might as well concede the NFCE title to the Cowgirls and/or the Redskins for the foreseeable future (3-5 years at a minimum).

  13. myasylum says: Feb 17, 2010 1:35 PM

    Thats what Philly gets for hiring the dog killer.
    Karmas a bitch, and that goes for any team that picks this bitch up after this too.

  14. danielcp0303 says: Feb 17, 2010 1:35 PM

    Nice to pick out Joey Galloway and Roy Williams instead of Irvin, Pearson, Austin, Owens. Yeah the Cowboys organization really needs to find a good player or two to win their first Super Bowl…oh wait

  15. KingJoe! says: Feb 17, 2010 1:41 PM

    Hap et al: The eagles qb situation is not a mess, the Buffalo qb situation is a mess. The Eagles simply have some excitng business decisions to make. I hope it brings them some high quality draft picks.

  16. Route36West says: Feb 17, 2010 1:41 PM

    I dont see why the Eagles wouldnt extend Mcnabb it makes no sense. I dont think he should get any money this year because he is already in the top 5 in salary but I have no problem them giving him a 3 year extension.
    I have said multiple times I want Mcnabb to be the qb of the Eagles and I still do . But we all know eventually Kolb is going to be give the reins. Im sure it wont happen in 2010 unless Mcnabb gets injured.
    If they know they want to make Kolb the starter in 2011 they would be smart to sign Mcnabb now. That way we would stop hearing about Mcnabb getting traded before the 2010 season and allow the team to focus on football. Then when the 2011 season comes around they will still own the rights to Mcnabb. They should still be able to get a 1st for him from the right team. Which would leave the starting job to Kolb.
    If they dont sign him to an extension now all we are going to hear all season until week 6 is if the Eagles will trade Mcnabb. Then by 2011 Mcnabb could walk without the team getting anything in return except a compensatory mid round pick.

  17. Steve-Mo says: Feb 17, 2010 1:42 PM

    Why is Kolb viewed as one of the better QBs in the league? I don’t understand. Guy has a good game against Kansas City and all of a suddenly it’s a quarterback controversy.

  18. buddha says: Feb 17, 2010 1:48 PM

    I think its funny that some people consider having 3 starting caliber QBs is a “mess”. LOL. And I dont get why some journalists think that the Eagles need to give McNabb another extension just to prove to them that McNabb is going to be the starter. The Eagles front office has nothing to prove to anybody! Even if they DID give McNabb more money, I’m sure you guys would come up with something else the Eagles have to do in order to make you feel that McNabb is going to be the starter. I guarantee you that the Eagles organization doesnt care about trying to come up with something to say so that Florio wont continue his trade talks. EVERY YEAR people talk about McNabb leaving and EVERY YEAR he suits up in midnight green! Honestly I wouldnt shed a tear if McNabb WAS traded but its funny to hear people say that the Eagles need to pay Donovan more money just to prove that he’ll be back again.

  19. blazklobucar says: Feb 17, 2010 1:53 PM

    I stopped watching videos on this site, because of that stupid, buggy video player, that resets itself, when I point my mouse away from it. AWFUL!!! Could you please, please fix that?

  20. KevinKolb4SB says: Feb 17, 2010 1:54 PM

    The solution is simple. Trade both Mcnabb and Vick, and let Kolb grow up with the young players around him (Jackson, Celek, Maclin, McCoy). It’s clear he fits the system the way Reid envisioned. Mcnabb will only get worse with age and loss of agility.

  21. KevinKolb4SB says: Feb 17, 2010 1:58 PM

    Kolb has more than one good game. He threw for 391 yards and scored over 20 pts vs. the Saints defense, the one that held Manning to 17. He didn’t lose that game, defense and special teams lost it. Mcnabb CANNOT win a Super Bowl..he’s had 11 years and we’ve seen the best of him. Without his agility and with age, his accuracy has been exposed. He’s not a leader in clutch situations.

  22. rayg says: Feb 17, 2010 1:58 PM

    Reid to McNabb — “Without further ado, we bid you adieu”.

  23. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 17, 2010 2:02 PM

    “Too bad that Jerry “Isaih Thomas” Jones is not in need of a QB.”
    McNabb would be a great backup to Romo, though.

  24. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 17, 2010 2:05 PM

    “I dont see why the Eagles wouldnt extend Mcnabb it makes no sense.”
    Let me count the ways.
    1 – He’s 34 in November
    2 – He’s overrated
    3 – He would want too much

  25. lespaul89 says: Feb 17, 2010 2:06 PM

    listen!! its time for a HUGE change in Philly, unless the Eagles are content with never making past the playoffs!!!
    seriously
    dump Mcnab AND Vick. get your new picks, rebuild that D that loves to get toasted over the top and maybe run the ball? Sometimes?

  26. jlbay says: Feb 17, 2010 2:07 PM

    The $6.2M roster bonus isn’t due until May 5th, 2010 – the draft is scheduled as follows:
    April 22nd – Thursday 7:30 pm: 1st round
    April 23rd – Friday 6:30 pm: 2nd & 3rd rounds
    April 24th – Saturday 10:00 am: 4th-7th rounds
    The Eagles purposefully scheduled the roster bonus for after the draft, as their long term plans at least concieved of potentially trading him. So, while nothing can be completed prior to March 5th, the beginning of the new NFL season, it appears that the McNabb trade deadline is more than likely April 22nd.

  27. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 17, 2010 2:07 PM

    “I think its funny that some people consider having 3 starting caliber QBs is a “mess”.”
    I think people that see three starting caliber QBs between McNabb, Kolb and Vick must be high.
    “EVERY YEAR people talk about McNabb leaving and EVERY YEAR he suits up in midnight green!”
    And every year it’s fail fail fail.
    “its funny to hear people say that the Eagles need to pay Donovan more money just to prove that he’ll be back again. ”
    They did it last year.

  28. Bill In DC says: Feb 17, 2010 2:13 PM

    buddha says: February 17, 2010 1:48 PM
    I think its funny that some people consider having 3 starting caliber QBs is a “mess”. LOL.
    ______________________
    Buddha,
    Lemme ‘splain. That isn’t a mess, what’s a mess is that all three of those ‘starting caliber QBs’ have one year left on their contracts, so they ALL become UFA at the end of 2011. This forces the Eagles to choose one now and sign him to a long term contract, for starting QB money. The QB not signed will want out of Philly and the team will need to move him out to avoid QB controversy. All the other teams know this to be true so the QB they need to move loses trade value, why would a team give good draft picks for a guy that is going to be released anyway? Then the Eagles have to hope they picked the right guy to keep. If they pick wrong it can make them mediocre for a long time.
    That, my friend, is a mess.
    Really amusing to listen to all these rabid fans think that some other team is going to give a ‘Hershel Walker’ type deal to get McNabb. Not going to happen. I seriously doubt McNabb gets a #1 pick unless Mike Lynn comes back to the NFL.

  29. ericpburt says: Feb 17, 2010 2:24 PM

    # yarlmak says: February 17, 2010 12:52 PM
    Rosenthal- I know this is blogstyle journalism- but you are still a paid professional writer. Terrible misuse of the word “adieu.” You meant to use “ado,” as that is the English word that means what you seem to be saying. Get an editor for god sake!
    —————————————————————————
    Thank you Captain English! Seriously, some people just feel the need to complain! (as I complain about the complaining)

  30. dave519 says: Feb 17, 2010 2:24 PM

    I’m still asking myself why, it’s kolb’s time, make a deal with mcnabb and get rid of some of the other dead weight, pick up some TALENTED PLAYERS why is this so hard to accomplish….

  31. mikeysoundtrack says: Feb 17, 2010 2:25 PM

    Sign Kolb to an extension, and let McNabb play out the remainder of his contract as the starter for 2011.
    This will make Kolb happy as the heir apparent in 2011 and will make McNabb play his best football in hopes of demanding the most money possible from his new team in 2011 (i bet the superbowl champion QB would collect quite the paycheck, no matter how old he is or how many screen passes he throws in the dirt).
    Keep Vick next year too. I bet a whole offseason of conditioning and learning the playbook will make him pretty dangerous on short yardage and in the red zone.
    This scenario will give the Eagles the best chance to win their first (and probably only) superbowl.

  32. kenyatta says: Feb 17, 2010 2:30 PM

    keep all three there contracts are up after the season anyway,if they dont win then make kolb the starter ,dont see vick ever starting there anyway he will end up somewhere else in 2011

  33. Mean D says: Feb 17, 2010 2:32 PM

    Donovan is an over rated has-been.

  34. Bill In DC says: Feb 17, 2010 3:01 PM

    # Mean D says: February 17, 2010 2:32 PM
    Donovan is an over rated has-been.
    ——————————-
    Is that you, Rush?

  35. djzato says: Feb 17, 2010 3:11 PM

    McNabb should stay, give him 3 more years after 2010…trade Kolb and Vick….the draft has 4 good QB’s that will go in rounds 1-4…grab one, along with a stud RB and lets go. We need to run the ball more for McNabb to be effective. The Cowboys had us figured out, finally, when all they had to do was cover somebody and pressure McNabb. Peyton Manning would fail in this offense as much as we pass the ball. At least in Indy they hand the ball off to Addai and Brown alot to keep the defense guessing. It all boils down to Andy Reid…if he doesn’t change the play calling, it don’t matter who’s behind center. Keep McNabb, trade Andy Reid!

  36. CKL says: Feb 17, 2010 3:50 PM

    djzato says:
    February 17, 2010 3:11 PM
    Peyton Manning would fail in this offense as much as we pass the ball. At least in Indy they hand the ball off to Addai and Brown alot to keep the defense guessing.
    __________________________________
    I am assuming you don’t realize that the Colts had fewer rushing attempts than the Eagles did last year. Not by much (18) but fewer is fewer.
    I am not a fan of either QB but Manning is a much better passer than McNabb is. His no run offense had them in the SB. Then again, I think McNabb is the most overrated QB in the NFL so take that for what it’s worth. Manning gets overhyped too much but at least he is very skilled.

  37. Panther_Fan says: Feb 17, 2010 4:16 PM

    When Vick was asked to comment on Kolb’s contract status, he deferred, stating he didn’t “have a dog in that fight”.

  38. Opie says: Feb 17, 2010 5:33 PM

    I object! All the above is heresay and pure conjecture. Not many facts being circulated in this courtroom.
    @ Bill in DC: this is why it’s not a mess. They’ve got 3 qb’s that they an trade. 1 or 2 will be traded. Name me another team that has 3 qb’s that other teams would trade for?!?
    As for the expiring contracts, they don’t have to negotiate anything for anyone.
    @ KevinKolb4SB: Kolb was a major reason they didn’t win the N.O. game. He threw 51 times to get over 300 yards and his untimely Int. on the out pattern did factor into them losing the game. It wasn’t entirely on the defense.
    @ Vox 1-5′boys fan: Vick has more playoff wins than your entire 1-5′boys team over the past decade AND he was in jail for 2 years….. so focus on your dungeons and dragons gameboard in your mom’s basement…….. you have to be better at that than talking football…….

  39. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 17, 2010 9:28 PM

    “Vox 1-5′boys fan”
    You say that only because the 0-3gles have won only one of their last five games against the Cowboys.
    “Vick has more playoff wins than your entire 1-5′boys team over the past decade AND he was in jail for 2 years”
    Congrats. I recommend the 0-3gles keep him. Please. The Cowboys have a habit of beating the crap out of teams that have Vick on them.
    And for pete’s sake, learn how and when to use an ellipsis.
    “As for the expiring contracts, they don’t have to negotiate anything for anyone.”
    That’s right. Just like they didn’t have to negotiate a new contract for TO. You think McNabb is going to be happy being a lame duck in 2010? If they keep McNabb, you think Kolb will be happy without a big financial commitment if the plan is to have McNabb start and be a lame duck in 2010?
    I didn’t ask about Vick because he’s irrelevant. You’re whistling past the graveyard, Opie.

  40. Opie says: Feb 18, 2010 10:52 AM

    @ Vox: I use “1-5′boys fan” to point out how useless your opinion on how to build a winning playoff team is and to point out that, based on your own opinion, your team is an epic failure for the last decade.
    I’ll file your grammatical suggestion on the use of ellipsis with the rest of your dumbass comments. It is used correctly, albeit a bit much.
    As for the qb situation and your analysis: just dumb. I’ll state the obvious, but until a collective bargaining agreement in place, it is pointless to negotiate any long term deals. It would be short sighted for both the team and the player. As for TO, that proved to be a smart move. He is about to be cut in Buffalo for crying out loud……
    However, if anyone knows about “lame duck” it is probably a 1-5′boys fan. How does Garrett feel now that he is a lame duck?
    “Congrats. I recommend the 0-3gles keep him. Please. The Cowboys have a habit of beating the crap out of teams that have Vick on them.”
    Except for any playoff team, where they’re 1-5 over the last decade……..

  41. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 18, 2010 12:23 PM

    “@ Vox: I use “1-5′boys fan” to point out how useless your opinion on how to build a winning playoff team is and to point out that, based on your own opinion, your team is an epic failure for the last decade.”
    And your opinion is golden exactly why? Because the 0-3gles have been so good with their overall losing record?
    “As for the qb situation and your analysis: just dumb. I’ll state the obvious, but until a collective bargaining agreement in place, it is pointless to negotiate any long term deals.”
    You’re willing to let contracts expire waiting on that new CBA? You’re a really smart guy. I wish they’d hire you to work in their front offices.
    “As for TO, that proved to be a smart move.”
    It was a supremely stupid move. I’m not talking about letting him go, I’m talking about letting him boil for an entire season. The 0-3gles sat on principle at the cost of team chemistry. Even as the very foundation of the team cracked before their eyes, they just let him do his thing. Didn’t renegotiate the contract OR let him go. All they had to do was guarantee a roster bonus. Why wouldn’t they? Oh yeah, cap champs, the “gold standard” and all that bullshit they feed you guys. Forgot about that. I’ve said it before. It’s insane to keep a guy that just doesn’t want to be there.
    “How does Garrett feel now that he is a lame duck? ”
    What makes you think that he’s a lame duck? The Cowboys have won the division two out of the three seasons since he’s been there and had top three offenses twice.
    “Except for any playoff team, where they’re 1-5 over the last decade……..”
    The “1″ just so happens to be 34-14 over the 0-3gles haha
    P.S. Ellipsis. Look it up.

  42. Whiterhinocerous says: Feb 18, 2010 3:31 PM

    Michael Vick has been to an NFC Championship game. Donovan McNabb has been to 5.
    How many has Tony Romo been to? Oh, right, too busy crying and passing out in the shower.

  43. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 18, 2010 5:20 PM

    “How many has Tony Romo been to? Oh, right, too busy crying and passing out in the shower.”
    And beating the 0-3gles asses in four of his last five games against them hahahahaha

  44. Opie says: Feb 18, 2010 10:12 PM

    @ Vox: “You’re willing to let contracts expire waiting on that new CBA? You’re a really smart guy. I wish they’d hire you to work in their front offices.” —
    you have no idea what you’re talking about and it’s pointless to debate something with you as you don’t understand..
    You are in no position to argue re: T.O. You thought he’d be better in Dallas, the 1-5′boys were dumber than the Eagles on that one!
    “What makes you think that he’s a lame duck?”
    Because Wade just got a 3 year extension, so boy wonder won’t be head coach for a while now. He’s got to be pissed, using your logic, that Wade got an extension and he didn’t….
    “The “1″ just so happens to be 34-14 over the 0-3gles haha”
    & that got you to 7 wins in 21 tries vs. Eagles over the past decade+…….very nice, indeed.
    I guess I should just refer to you as 7-14′boys fan

  45. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 19, 2010 9:42 AM

    “You are in no position to argue re: T.O. You thought he’d be better in Dallas”
    He was better in Dallas. Mainly because he had a better QB in Dallas. Did TO ever surpass 1300 receiving yards in Philly? No. Did he ever catch 15 TD passes? No. What did the Cowboys do when TO started making noise? They cut him and immediately became a better team. What happened to the 0-3gles? They kept him around and went 6-10 and had only one winning season out of the next two.
    “Because Wade just got a 3 year extension, so boy wonder won’t be head coach for a while now. He’s got to be pissed, using your logic, that Wade got an extension and he didn’t….”
    Actually, Garrett got an extension before the ’08 season. You don’t follow the NFL very closely, do you? And you don’t understand the term “lame duck”, do you? Not surprising. Let me help you out. Being a “lame duck” is not being pissed off. It means “a person finishing a term of employment after his replacement has been chosen.” That describes McNabb, if he goes into the 2010 season with no extension.
    “I guess I should just refer to you as 7-14′boys fan”
    It doesn’t matter what you call me. Just understand that you’re an 0-3gles fan. Otherwise known as a fan of a team that has become Wade Phillips’ personal bitch hahaha

  46. Opie says: Feb 19, 2010 10:43 PM

    @ Vox: if you followed the NFL, dear Schmegal, you’d realize that TO averaged:
    More TD’s/game in Philly
    More yards/catch in Philly
    More yards/game in Philly
    I imagine it had more to do with him getting hurt while in Philly &, more importantly, there being more weapons in Philly vs. Dallas that resulted in him not getting the 1300 yards/15Td’s in one season!
    2005′s record had more to do with DNabb & Westbrook being hurt, than T.O. being a pain in the ass.
    More importantly, though, T.O. won a playoff game in Philly and ZERO in Dallas.
    Oh, one more thing: if you call cutting him immediately: having the 1-5boy’s owner going around saying, “we’re not cutting Terrell, he’s a Cowboy.” AND it dragging on WELL into the offseason, well then you’d be wrong.
    I guess that’s what it’s like to be Andy Reid’s personal bitch 7-14′boys fan……..

  47. Opie says: Feb 19, 2010 11:13 PM

    @ Vox: T.O. averaged:
    More TD’s/game
    More yards/catch
    More yards/game
    in Philly than in Dallas. Plus, he got to win the playoffs!
    As for the 2005 season: had more to do with DNabb & Westy being hurt than T.O. doing/not doing anything.
    And your boy, Jones, kept the rumors swirling for quite a while w/Owens. We’re committed to keeping him, then his son cuts him….yeah, no drama there!
    Get your facts right before you spout off.

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