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Court date postponed for Johnny Jolly

Green Bay Packers defensive lineman Johnny Jolly was due in a Texas court Thursday on a felony charge of drug possession, but his court date was postponed until March 8.

The Green Bay Press-Gazette writes that the new date — requested by Jolly’s attorney — means the Packers “will have to apply his tender as a restricted free agent without knowing the outcome or whether he’ll be suspended the first four games next season.”

It’s surely true that the Packers would prefer to know the outcome of Jolly’s case before they decide how to proceed in free agency, but it’s not true that they “have to” do anything. If they’re concerned about his legal status, the Packers are free to move on without him and let him shop his services to 31 other teams.

The Press Gazette also writes, “If Jolly is found guilty, it’s a given he’ll be suspended the first four games of next season for violating the NFL’s personal-conduct policy.” That’s not necessarily true, either; NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell would make that determination at a later date.

But it is true that Jolly, who is charged with possession of at least 200 grams of codeine, could be facing an NFL suspension and prison time. In December, Jolly said, “I don’t worry about nothing. I’ve got God on my side.”

What may be more important is having a good lawyer on his side.

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93 Responses to “Court date postponed for Johnny Jolly”
  1. playinforchubs says: Feb 19, 2010 9:23 AM

    Say what you want about Johnny Jolly, but damn it the man’s got style.

  2. Ross'sSweetMinus says: Feb 19, 2010 9:27 AM

    I love it how our justice system. specifically for those athletes who love to break the laws.

  3. DonTerrelli says: Feb 19, 2010 9:27 AM

    Well, when you’re charged with felony possession, you’d better be worried.

  4. PossibleCabbage says: Feb 19, 2010 9:28 AM

    From what I can tell, this is like a legal game of chicken.
    Jolly is absolutely guilty of simple possession, but he’s also absolutely innocent of felony possession with intent to distribute, which is what he got charged with.
    The cops mis/overcharged him, and are trying to save face by getting him to admit to a lesser charge. However, if he does so, he gets suspended. So his lawyers are trying to bring this to trial, where the facts of the case are pretty damning against the felony possession charge, and hopefully get him off scott free.
    Expect this to drag on a while.

  5. dnmccor81 says: Feb 19, 2010 9:34 AM

    Quite a zinger at the end Smith – great journalism!

  6. Hauschild says: Feb 19, 2010 9:38 AM

    Gotta love those “Packer” people that Thompson so adores.

  7. Pervy Harvin says: Feb 19, 2010 9:39 AM

    “I’ve got God on my side.” What a loser tool.Bet he wasn’t thinking of God when the purple goop kicked in. Thank God Viking players don’t make idiotic statements like this in times of trouble. But hey,he is a Packer.What would you expect??

  8. FootballOnly says: Feb 19, 2010 9:39 AM

    This loser has had his “court date” rescheduled so many times that it is becoming a real joke.

  9. GobiasINC_1 says: Feb 19, 2010 9:43 AM

    I really wish we could get some local judges to suspend the whole thing, like they did in ol’ East Dakota for the Williams Wall.

  10. hckcm7315 says: Feb 19, 2010 9:50 AM

    Sip, sip, sippin’ on da s’syrp.

  11. irishgary says: Feb 19, 2010 9:53 AM

    @PossibleCabbage
    Good you have all of the inside information. Where you there sipping from the straw too?

  12. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 19, 2010 9:55 AM

    “The cops mis/overcharged him, and are trying to save face by getting him to admit to a lesser charge. However, if he does so, he gets suspended. So his lawyers are trying to bring this to trial, where the facts of the case are pretty damning against the felony possession charge, and hopefully get him off scott free.”
    Yeah, ‘cuz we wouldn’t want criminals to go to jail or anything icky like that. Did you even read the article? He’s charged with felony possession, no mention of distribution.

  13. jimmySee says: Feb 19, 2010 9:55 AM

    If they had a case against him, you’d expect they would have pressed to go forward already.

  14. green&bold says: Feb 19, 2010 10:03 AM

    Pervy, Pervy, Pervy…you’re reaching. Is it the offseason thats got you making stupid comments? Just not enough Packer stories for you to jump on?

  15. PossibleCabbage says: Feb 19, 2010 10:05 AM

    I think the real joke is on the city of Houston, since they’re the ones that keep dropping charges, refiling charges, and pushing back court dates. They realized that they screwed up and overcharged a guy, who will probably get off as a result (there’s no way you get 200 g of codeine in a 20 oz bottle, it’s just not possible). So they’re scrambling to try to save some sort of face here. What they want is for Jolly to just plea down to simple possession, which is why they keep postponing, but his lawyers know that their case is very strong if this goes to trial, so it’s probably not going to happen.

  16. kevinlone says: Feb 19, 2010 10:05 AM

    Viking players?? idiotic statements?? please!!! nice love boat scandal! nice 10 DWI havin Jared Allen(lose the mullet,1986 is no longer)way to go Carl”relapse”Eller..Oh,sorry..forgot about the Williams'”blobs” and their drug lovin ass!!

  17. zappa says: Feb 19, 2010 10:18 AM

    Just drop the charges, HE’S A GREENBAY PACKER FOR GODS SAKE!

  18. JakeDSnake says: Feb 19, 2010 10:24 AM

    Johnny Jolly will come out of this smelling like roses – in fact, the new Johnny Jolly Air Freshener for bathrooms will make him more money than any NFL contract.

  19. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 19, 2010 10:24 AM

    green&bold says:
    February 19, 2010 10:03 AM
    Pervy, Pervy, Pervy…you’re reaching. Is it the offseason thats got you making stupid comments? Just not enough Packer stories for you to jump on?
    ——————————
    You’re new here. That was a standard Pervy post. Lower your expectations.
    Back to the topic at hand, I wish this trial would just go forward already. I’m sick of it. Find him guilty, find him not guilty, whatever. Just do it.

  20. JerkStore says: Feb 19, 2010 10:24 AM

    Cabbage has it right.

  21. GobiasINC_1 says: Feb 19, 2010 10:31 AM

    Pervy, yeah it’s a good thing Viking players don’t make idiotic statement. It would be bad if they said something, for instance, like “I don’t see him out there getting hit or nothing like that…” about the NFL commissioner’s salary.
    Or it would be pretty embarrassing if they waited all offseason for a soon-t0-be 41 year old QB who only throws costly INTs when it matters most. Or have a left tackle be thrown off a Pro Bowl roster, that would be embarrassing if I was a fan of that team.
    Or maybe have an entire fan-base that doesn’t support the team and will eventually forces “their Vikings” to move to Los Angeles.
    Yes, Pervy, that would be really embarrassing. But ONE Packer did something that was against the law. A Viking has never done anything like that, right?
    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/11704661.html
    http://wcco.com/topstories/Minnesota.Vikings.players.2.351365.html
    http://www.chiefswarpath.com/news/2006/09/29/chiefs-de-jared-allen-arrested-for-second-alleged-dui-charge/
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2851494

  22. Big Stretch says: Feb 19, 2010 10:34 AM

    Much like Jolly i don’t worry about nothing either, but that’s because i have the Flying Spagetti Monster on my side.

  23. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 19, 2010 10:40 AM

    “I think the real joke is on the city of Houston, since they’re the ones that keep dropping charges, refiling charges, and pushing back court dates.”
    I think the real joke is that you refuse to check the facts. The postponement was at the request of Jolly’s lawyer.
    “They realized that they screwed up and overcharged a guy, who will probably get off as a result (there’s no way you get 200 g of codeine in a 20 oz bottle, it’s just not possible).”
    Texas law (most state laws, actually) contain provisions for “adulterants or dilutants” which are “any material that increases the bulk or quantity of a controlled substance, regardless of its effect on the chemical activity of the controlled substance.”
    This is the applicable Texas law:
    http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/SOTWDocs/HS/htm/HS.481.htm
    Sec. 481.118. OFFENSE: POSSESSION OF SUBSTANCE IN PENALTY GROUP 4. (a) Except as authorized by this chapter, a person commits an offense if the person knowingly or intentionally possesses a controlled substance listed in Penalty Group 4, unless the person obtained the substance directly from or under a valid prescription or order of a practitioner acting in the course of practice.
    (d) An offense under Subsection (a) is a felony of the second degree, if the amount of the controlled substance possessed is, by aggregate weight, including adulterants or dilutants, 200 grams or more but less than 400 grams.
    Surprise, the cops don’t subtract the amount of baby laxative present in a given amount of cocaine when they charge somebody with a drug crime, either.

  24. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 19, 2010 10:45 AM

    As far as Vikings players making idiotic statements are concerned…
    – Jared Allen said he was going to “bury his helmet in Aaron Rodgers’ spine.” That was prior to burying his helmet in Matt Schaub’s knee.
    – Randy Moss “plays when he wants to play.”
    – Onterrio Smith called himself “steal of the draft.” Didn’t he also shave S.O.D. into the side of his head? Two years later he packed up his plastic penis and went home.
    – Ray Edwards predicted he’d break the single-season sack record (22.5). He fell a little short (he got 5).
    – Adrian Peterson set a goal of rushing for 2,000 yards. At least he came a lot closer to his goal than Edwards did.
    – Mewelde Moore said this of the cruise on Lake Minnetonka, “Oh no, none of that. Sex? What are you talking about? That’s crazy. Look man, I’m engaged. That would put me in trouble.”
    I’m sure there’s plenty I’m forgetting. And no, I’m not trying to make the argument that Packers players don’t say and do dumb things. I’m just trying to introduce Pervy to reality.

  25. Pervy Harvin says: Feb 19, 2010 10:45 AM

    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: That was a standard Pervy post. Lower your expectations
    ————————————————–
    Yep, just one of my standard works of art. The kind that makes the lower intellect PFT members respond to never endingly. I am the the Master,they but the puppets. Join the club green&gold. Gobias,Emoney,Hydra etc etc will welcome you with open arms. You are not new though. Smart people remember other members.

  26. turk yary says: Feb 19, 2010 10:49 AM

    Brett and Deanna would be the first people to forgive Jolly if he’s guilty. Brett had his own struggle with drugs, you know, and conquered it. Next season, Brett and Deanna will help us defeat our own demons. There will not be a SIXTH CONSECUTIVE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP CHOKE!! We will not stink it up with a FIFTH CONSECUTIVE SUPER BOWL LOSS!

  27. purpleguy says: Feb 19, 2010 10:56 AM

    Actually, that delay was good lawyering on Jolly’s attorney’s part given the NFL tender deadline. It’s intereting that Jolly and the Williams boys have trials on the same date in March. Maybe they can all serve their suspensions together.
    And Ruvell, you’ve got to be kidding on the classy fans chat at Gopher/Badgers events. Anyone who’s been to a Gopher game at Kohl or Camp Randall has heard equal or worse crap from Badger fans (even the band). Hell, after WCHA final five game I got into a fight with 5 drunk Badger fans after trying to stop them from picking on a developmentally disabled guy waiting at the bus stop. If living in Minnesota is f-ing stupid, what is living in WI, a state with lower-ranked education, income, jobs and health than MN? I guess WI does rate above MN in alcohol consumption and obesity, so I’ll give you that.

  28. bluestree says: Feb 19, 2010 11:17 AM

    Typical PFT. Packer post. Pervy Harvin post. Pervy takes ass whipping from Packer fans, then declares victory.
    Typical NFL. Vikings go to postseason. Vikings take ass whipping. Viking fans declare victory.
    Pattern?

  29. Ruvell100 says: Feb 19, 2010 11:22 AM

    Purple-Find me these numbers and I’ll believe you. When I went to school, 43% of Minnesota college students attended school in Wisconsin. WI was also rated the #1 public higher education system in the US.
    Like I said, find me the numbers that support your claim. I’ll save you one. We are number 1 in alchohol consumption. If having a good time is a crime, consider me guilty.

  30. longrodvanhungendong says: Feb 19, 2010 11:22 AM

    I agree with Cabbage. It is a weak case outside of felony possession. But in Jolly’s defense, he is a simple dumbass!!!! Give him 4 games off on his new “loosing” team that over pays him for his services.

  31. Chickenfoot says: Feb 19, 2010 11:32 AM

    jimmySee says:
    February 19, 2010 9:55 AM
    If they had a case against him, you’d expect they would have pressed to go forward already.
    ===================================
    As a “Packer Stockholder” you are an idiot and nothing you say matters.

  32. TheHydraPart6 says: Feb 19, 2010 11:38 AM

    Pervy Harvin says:
    February 19, 2010 10:45 AM
    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: That was a standard Pervy post. Lower your expectations
    ————————————————–
    Yep, just one of my standard works of art. The kind that makes the lower intellect PFT members respond to never endingly. I am the the Master,they but the puppets. Join the club green&gold. Gobias,Emoney,Hydra etc etc will welcome you with open arms. You are not new though. Smart people remember other members.
    ——
    LOL! Pervy!!! My whigga….

  33. Majik Bullet says: Feb 19, 2010 11:41 AM

    # PossibleCabbage says: February 19, 2010 10:05 AM
    I think the real joke is on the city of Houston, since they’re the ones that keep dropping charges, refiling charges, and pushing back court dates. They realized that they screwed up and overcharged a guy, who will probably get off as a result (there’s no way you get 200 g of codeine in a 20 oz bottle, it’s just not possible). So they’re scrambling to try to save some sort of face here. What they want is for Jolly to just plea down to simple possession, which is why they keep postponing, but his lawyers know that their case is very strong if this goes to trial, so it’s probably not going to happen.
    _____________
    Are you serious? Go to your medicine cabinet, pull out a bottle of tylenol or excedrin, and look at a 500 mg pill. This is half of a gram. If you can’t fit 400 of those in a 20 ounce bottle, you’re retarded. And I read the online report, there is no mention of it being a 20 ounce bottle, it could have been a liter or bigger. And the report also mentions there being 2 cups containing the mixture as well.
    They didn’t over charge him, they just had no way to verify the amount, which caused the delay. Now, with recent technological advances, they have the ability, and that is why he is being charged with the current levels.

  34. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 19, 2010 11:42 AM

    “Purple-Find me these numbers and I’ll believe you. When I went to school, 43% of Minnesota college students attended school in Wisconsin. WI was also rated the #1 public higher education system in the US.”
    Got any numbers on minority enrollment in WI schools?

  35. ClayMath52 says: Feb 19, 2010 12:04 PM

    Looks like he has the same attorney’s as the Williams sisters.

  36. cheeseweasel says: Feb 19, 2010 12:04 PM

    funny how the Packer fans turn this into a Vikings tirade. Man, you guys are really hurting right now. Beautiful….

  37. PossibleCabbage says: Feb 19, 2010 12:17 PM

    “Are you serious? Go to your medicine cabinet, pull out a bottle of tylenol or excedrin, and look at a 500 mg pill. This is half of a gram. If you can’t fit 400 of those in a 20 ounce bottle, you’re retarded. ”
    Purple is made by mixing codeine cough syrup with some sort of carbonated beverage. Codeine cough syrup has about 90 mg of codeine per 4 fluid ounces. If he really had 200 grams of codeine in his possession, he had to have it in a 70 gallon bottle.

  38. CutlerISaPussy says: Feb 19, 2010 12:18 PM

    Adam-Chris and Gobias have clearly identified themselves as the biggest losers in the world. I didn’t read their posts, but just looking at them makes me think they have spent most of their day working on them (probably not much to do in the special ed classes though).
    Get a life keyboard warriors!

  39. JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoooo says: Feb 19, 2010 12:22 PM

    Badgers lost to our crappy Gopher basketball team. Our team that can’t even finish a season without losing 4 guys to academic issues or criminal charges. Gopher bball sucks ass, and you lost to them.
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!

  40. DCViking says: Feb 19, 2010 12:28 PM

    # .VoxVeritas says: February 19, 2010 11:42 AM
    “Purple-Find me these numbers and I’ll believe you. When I went to school, 43% of Minnesota college students attended school in Wisconsin. WI was also rated the #1 public higher education system in the US.”
    Got any numbers on minority enrollment in WI schools?
    —————————————————–
    By minority, I assume you mean children born to parents that aren’t brother and sister (or similiar relation), correct?

  41. Ruvell100 says: Feb 19, 2010 1:08 PM

    @Vox- Just googled it. Minorities made up 10.1% of students enrolled in the UW-system, up from around 8% 10 years ago. Not sure where you’re going with this, just figured I’d throw you the numbers.

  42. wangchungish312 says: Feb 19, 2010 1:33 PM

    I think the real winner here is the city of Houston. Every time I come here it gets harder to leave. I think you put something in the water.

  43. Ruvell100 says: Feb 19, 2010 1:42 PM

    DCViking- Standard Minnesota to WI joke. Inbred, fat, or we beat our wives. Try something steeped in fact. Never met a Minnesotan who wants to get into a pissing match for real. Why do you think Somalians have overtaken your cities? I mean, city. What’s outside of Mpls/St. Paul other than barren prairie? Dare you to say Duluth.

  44. Ruvell100 says: Feb 19, 2010 1:46 PM

    @JoeyJoe..whatever says
    “Badgers lost to our crappy Gopher basketball team. Our team that can’t even finish a season without losing 4 guys to academic issues or criminal charges. Gopher bball sucks ass, and you lost to them.
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA”
    ____________________
    Um, how can I comeback to that? You actually provided the ammunition. Kind of like when people move to your hellhole state and run it into the ground, you provide the welfare check.

  45. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Feb 19, 2010 2:02 PM

    did Michael just say that a lawyer was more important then God?

  46. Majik Bullet says: Feb 19, 2010 2:13 PM

    PossibleCabbage says: February 19, 2010 12:17 PM
    Purple is made by mixing codeine cough syrup with some sort of carbonated beverage. Codeine cough syrup has about 90 mg of codeine per 4 fluid ounces. If he really had 200 grams of codeine in his possession, he had to have it in a 70 gallon bottle.
    ____________
    Sorry I don’t keep up on how the morons are getting high. But if you read the law, you will see that they can include any and all filler that is included in the concoction, such as a 1 ounce dose of syrup only containing say 20 mg codeine. They are able to include the entire ounce.
    The real question here is why is a guy pulling down 7 figures getting buzzed on cough syrup, or even trying to sell it for that matter?

  47. GobiasINC_1 says: Feb 19, 2010 2:16 PM

    CutlerISaPussy, it actually took me about thirty seconds to write that. There’s this program called Mavis Beacon. Kids use it in school to learn how to type faster. You should really look into it.
    Just remember, try to keep the drool in your mouth as you hunt and peck. You wouldn’t want to ruin your keyboard.

  48. Majik Bullet says: Feb 19, 2010 2:22 PM

    Ruvell
    Don’t know what you’re trying to prove about major cities in Wisco and Minny, but it’s pretty similar. Wisco has Milwaukee and Madison, Minny has Minneapolis ans St.Paul. Then you go down the list, it’s almost identical. Green Bay, Kenosha, Racine compared to Rochester, Bloomington, and Duluth.
    You make fun of the “barren prairie,” but the northern half of Wisco is nothing but uninhabited woods. What, exactly, are you driving at?

  49. Ruvell100 says: Feb 19, 2010 2:36 PM

    I’m driving at the fact that Wisconsin has 1,000,000 more people than Minnesota. But apparently Wisconsin is a hick state and Minnesota is some wealth of urban eclecticness.
    You live in Monroe (a town of more than 10,000, which Minnesota has about 6 of outside of the metro.) You should be defending me on this one.

  50. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 19, 2010 2:37 PM

    cheeseweasel says:
    February 19, 2010 12:04 PM
    funny how the Packer fans turn this into a Vikings tirade. Man, you guys are really hurting right now. Beautiful….
    ——————————
    Apparently you missed the first handful of posts in this thread. No one mentioned the queens until Hauschild and Pervis reared their ugly heads.

  51. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 19, 2010 2:39 PM

    CutlerISaPussy says:
    February 19, 2010 12:18 PM
    Adam-Chris and Gobias have clearly identified themselves as the biggest losers in the world. I didn’t read their posts, but just looking at them makes me think they have spent most of their day working on them (probably not much to do in the special ed classes though).
    Get a life keyboard warriors!
    ——————————-
    Go ahead and debate anything I said, fruitcake. I’ll be waiting.

  52. JimmySmith says: Feb 19, 2010 2:49 PM

    The Houston police don’t exactly enjoy a sterling record in the race relations dept so this arrest is not without its misguided intentions including the police statement that they smelled drugs in the car. Problem is codeine is oderless (I wish the same were true for Viking fans)
    The second legal issue is whether the cops could prove that in a car with 4 people, who owned what cup in the car? Of the two cups in the car, neither had a label with Jolly’s name on it.
    Now I am not defending Jolly, he is at least guilty of hanging out with douche bags, no not Viking fans, his hometown friends. I will await the results of the criminal justice system before pronouncing him with any label. In my book, you have to earn your label, how else do they think the Vikings are best known for being chokers.

  53. TheHydraPart6 says: Feb 19, 2010 3:12 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    February 19, 2010 2:13 PM
    PossibleCabbage says: February 19, 2010 12:17 PM
    Purple is made by mixing codeine cough syrup with some sort of carbonated beverage. Codeine cough syrup has about 90 mg of codeine per 4 fluid ounces. If he really had 200 grams of codeine in his possession, he had to have it in a 70 gallon bottle.
    ____________
    Sorry I don’t keep up on how the morons are getting high. But if you read the law, you will see that they can include any and all filler that is included in the concoction, such as a 1 ounce dose of syrup only containing say 20 mg codeine. They are able to include the entire ounce.
    The real question here is why is a guy pulling down 7 figures getting buzzed on cough syrup, or even trying to sell it for that matter?
    ———–
    majik from the connotation and pure anger in all of your posts it seems getting a little high on something yourself might do you some good!

  54. TheHydraPart6 says: Feb 19, 2010 3:13 PM

    JimmySmith says:
    February 19, 2010 2:49 PM
    The Houston police don’t exactly enjoy a sterling record in the race relations dept so this arrest is not without its misguided intentions including the police statement that they smelled drugs in the car. Problem is codeine is oderless (I wish the same were true for Viking fans)
    The second legal issue is whether the cops could prove that in a car with 4 people, who owned what cup in the car? Of the two cups in the car, neither had a label with Jolly’s name on it.
    Now I am not defending Jolly, he is at least guilty of hanging out with douche bags, no not Viking fans, his hometown friends. I will await the results of the criminal justice system before pronouncing him with any label. In my book, you have to earn your label, how else do they think the Vikings are best known for being chokers.
    ————-
    Well said Jimmy

  55. Pervy Harvin says: Feb 19, 2010 4:08 PM

    bluestree says:
    February 19, 2010 11:17 AM
    Typical PFT. Packer post. Pervy Harvin post. Pervy takes ass whipping from Packer fans, then declares victory.
    ————————————————–
    Now now bluestree. I know you are 62 and live with your Mother. Waste most of the day on a fart stained recliner watching cartoons after Mommy hands out the meds. NO PACKER has or ever will hand me my ass. I own them all. As does chickenfoot. Like the Vikings own the North. Now get back to Curious George you sad man.

  56. packers4life says: Feb 19, 2010 6:06 PM

    “As a “Packer Stockholder” you are an idiot and nothing you say matters.”
    Pot calling the kettle black.

  57. packers4life says: Feb 19, 2010 6:10 PM

    “Like the Vikings own the North.”
    This is why people hate Viking fans. They claim they ‘own’ the NFC North when just before last season, they haven’t won it in 7-8 years.

  58. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 19, 2010 6:32 PM

    Pervy Harvin says:
    February 19, 2010 4:08 PM
    NO PACKER has or ever will hand me my ass. I own them all.
    —————————–
    Tell me again how much better Jared Allen is than Reggie White? How many sacks did Jared Allen get in the NFC championship game? Which position did LeRoy Butler play? How much better were the 13-5 NFC runner-up ’09 Vikings than the 16-3 Super Bowl champion ’96 Packers?
    Yeah, thought so. You own us all with your impressive arguments.
    —————————–
    Pervy Harvin says:
    Like the Vikings own the North. Now get back to Curious George you sad man.
    ——————————
    NFC North titles:
    Green Bay – 4
    Chicago – 2
    Minnesota – 2
    Detroit – 0
    They don’t own the north. They’ve just rented it for a couple of years. I’m sure they’ll be evicted soon. Detroit’s been saving them a primo spot in the alley.

  59. Pervy Harvin says: Feb 19, 2010 8:16 PM

    @ Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:They don’t own the north. They’ve just rented it for a couple of years. I’m sure they’ll be evicted soon. Detroit’s been saving them a primo spot in the alley.
    ————————————————–
    “I remember reading that scientists once believed the universe was made of hydrogen, because it was the most plentiful ingredient found. If that theory holds any truth, then I believe it to be made of stupidity. ”
    Frank Zappa on Adam-Chris Scheftersen

  60. PossibleCabbage says: Feb 19, 2010 9:31 PM

    “But if you read the law, you will see that they can include any and all filler that is included in the concoction, such as a 1 ounce dose of syrup only containing say 20 mg codeine. They are able to include the entire ounce.”
    I am not privy to the local statute in Houston, but I’m willing to bet this is not accurate. Because, if it were, anybody who brought a single bottle of cough syrup containing codeine while in Canada (you can purchase it over the counter there) and then brought it back with them to the states would be guilty of felony possession with intent to distribute, since the entire bottle of cough syrup would weigh between 5 and 10 ounces and yet only contain 1.5 grams total of codeine. Should we charge everybody who goes to Canada, gets a cough, and accidentally brings back the medicine they bought with felony possession? I’m willing to bet that the statute does not make those people felons. Or at least, if reasonable, it shouldn’t.

  61. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 19, 2010 10:34 PM

    “I am not privy to the local statute in Houston, but I’m willing to bet this is not accurate.”
    Well you’d be wrong. Read my above post timestamped 10:40.

  62. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 19, 2010 10:39 PM

    “The second legal issue is whether the cops could prove that in a car with 4 people, who owned what cup in the car? Of the two cups in the car, neither had a label with Jolly’s name on it.”
    Neither did the platefull of cocaine that Michael Irvin was busted for. Not surprised that you rolled out the race card already, JimmySmith. Codeine doesn’t have an odor but codeine-based cough syrup sure does.
    “I will await the results of the criminal justice system before pronouncing him with any label”
    Of course you will refrain from labeling the Packers player, Packer fan.

  63. Majik Bullet says: Feb 19, 2010 10:58 PM

    Here you go Cabbage.
    http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/SOTWDocs/HS/htm/HS.481.htm
    And yes, it is illegal to bring that back from Canada, just like it’s illegal to bring back marijuana from Jamaica, where it is legal. Just because you buy something in a country where it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s ok to bring it back to the U.S., where it is illegal. If you’re dumb enough to bring it back, you deserve to be punished if caught.

  64. PossibleCabbage says: Feb 20, 2010 12:58 AM

    Do you really think that somebody with a single bottle of cough syrup, which contains less than 2 grams of a controlled substance, ought to be a felon?

  65. Majik Bullet says: Feb 20, 2010 9:10 AM

    I don’t agree with a lot of laws, Cabbage. But if violating a law I don’t believe in could result in a felony charge, there’s no way I would risk everything to break said law. This is just common sense.

  66. .VoxVeritas says: Feb 20, 2010 10:07 AM

    “Do you really think that somebody with a single bottle of cough syrup, which contains less than 2 grams of a controlled substance, ought to be a felon?”
    Not if they have a prescription for it.

  67. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 20, 2010 12:33 PM

    Pervy Harvin says:
    February 19, 2010 8:16 PM
    “I remember reading that scientists once believed the universe was made of hydrogen, because it was the most plentiful ingredient found. If that theory holds any truth, then I believe it to be made of stupidity. ”
    Frank Zappa on Adam-Chris Scheftersen
    ————————————
    “Mr. Harvin, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
    Principal Max Anderson on Pervy Harvin

  68. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 20, 2010 1:03 PM

    Shit, that wasn’t the principal. Oh well, it’s still a valid point. You’re an idiot, Pervy. Always have been, always will be.

  69. Majik Bullet says: Feb 20, 2010 2:02 PM

    Adam
    Max Anderson was the grade school principal. The quote you just gave was from the moderator of the quiz game.
    For shame, Adam, for shame. You are the puppy who lost his way.

  70. shaggytoodle says: Feb 20, 2010 2:26 PM

    Hells ya Ruvell don’t mess with educated drunk peeps woo woo. For real though weren’t there a few other people in the car? Couldn’t he just say it was one of there’s? Its not like he put a bullet through his own leg. Even if it was Johnny’s, don’t be hating him for getting jolly.

  71. Majik Bullet says: Feb 20, 2010 3:02 PM

    Ruvell
    Here’s a list of Minny’s 20 biggest largest cities.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Minnesota
    Here’s Wisco’s list
    http://www.maps-n-stats.com/us_wi_population.html
    What’s the huge difference you are trying to point out? Yes, I’m from Wisco, but I also try not to get into the “my state is better than your state” stupidity. Especially when the 2 states are as similar as Minny and Wisco. So again, what’s the point?

  72. footballrulz says: Feb 20, 2010 3:40 PM

    Professional football player, lots of money & drinking purple? Man there is so much better stuff out there. I mean if you’re gonna get stoned, get stoned.
    Vox, how do you know about baby laxative in cocane?

  73. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 21, 2010 12:50 AM

    @Majik:
    That was actually pulled from imdb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112508/quotes), where they quoted the speaker as “principal”. After I posted it I thought imdb’s page was wrong, which prompted my second post. However, imdb was right. It was the high school principal who moderated the quiz, played by actor James Downey. http://www.charlierose.com/images_toplevel/content/9/946/clip_9469_460x345.jpg
    Either way, I added “Max Anderson”, which was the elementary school principal’s name.
    Having said that, I’ll go back to my original point. Pervy’s an idiot. Feel free to disagree with me on that. You and I both know there’s enough evidence here to prove it’s true.

  74. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Feb 21, 2010 12:54 AM

    As far as Ruvell is concerned.. I’m not sure where he’s going with this discussion on population, either. If you want to rip a hole in the “Wisconsinites are drunk inbred hicks” argument, there’s better ways to do it. I prefer to ignore those comments. They come from people who have no idea what else to say or who can’t possibly bring anything else to the discussion. Let them fly-by with their idiotic trash.

  75. The Polish Rifle says: Feb 21, 2010 8:26 AM

    ” Vox, how do you know about baby laxative in cocane? ”
    Drug runner/ Texas coke slanger?
    Lets hope he gets picked off by the border patrol! Cleaning up PFT one day at a time!

  76. generalbo says: Feb 21, 2010 11:16 AM

    Super Bowls:
    Packers: 3
    Vikings: 0
    This is the end of all Packers-Vikings arguments. Just be glad I didn’t include NFL championships as well. Consider this argument over.

  77. Ruvell100 says: Feb 21, 2010 11:51 AM

    ACS and Majik-
    You are both correct in that you could just ignore those comments. However, I live in Hudson and went to school at the U of M, and let me tell you, it gets frickin’ sickening. I have a hard time turning the other cheek.
    The population thing might not be the way, but it has some merit. “Hick-like” behavior usual stems from people who are far removed from an urban setting. In the furthest reaches of WI, you are never more than an hour from some place with 50,000 people, or at least 10,000. Minnesota is the metro, Duluth, and Rochester. Everything outside of that is East Dakota. Barren desolation.
    And by barren, I mean dead prairie. Nothing. Hardly a tree. The worst thing is that every state has some element of that. There is white trash everywhere. But these Minnies actually think they are this eclectic, posh, classy state. Far left elitists, the only type that would put Jesse Ventura and Al Franken in Governor or Senate seats.

  78. Chickenfoot says: Feb 21, 2010 2:50 PM

    generalbo says:
    February 21, 2010 11:16 AM
    Super Bowls:
    Packers: 3
    Vikings: 0
    This is the end of all Packers-Vikings arguments. Just be glad I didn’t include NFL championships as well. Consider this argument over.
    =================================
    Ahh yes, the war cry of idiot Packer fans everywhere when the Vikings have the better team…….
    It’d be nice if the Packers had a recent SB victory for you to hang that hat on wouldn’t it?
    They don’t and it’s a silly argument on your part.
    Dust off the trophies is the oldest, dumbest thing ever when we are talking about present day teams. I’m sure gay Rod and the boys take great pride in the dusty trophies sitting in the case.
    Idiot.

  79. shaggytoodle says: Feb 21, 2010 3:34 PM

    Chickenfoot–
    It would be nice for you have ANYTHING for Vikes fans to hang their hat on, well I guess you all have that “we were better than the saints,” thing going.

  80. Majik Bullet says: Feb 21, 2010 3:41 PM

    Exactly right, chickenfoot. Keep bringing up those dusty trophies. Exactly how many members of the current roster were members of that Championship team?

  81. Majik Bullet says: Feb 21, 2010 4:12 PM

    Exactly right, chickenfoot. Keep bringing up those dusty trophies. Exactly how many members of the current roster were members of that Championship team?

  82. Majik Bullet says: Feb 21, 2010 4:25 PM

    Ruvell100 says: February 21, 2010 11:51 AM
    In the furthest reaches of WI, you are never more than an hour from some place with 50,000 people, or at least 10,000. Minnesota is the metro, Duluth, and Rochester. Everything outside of that is East Dakota. Barren desolation.
    ________________
    Really? Go north, and find me a place with 50,000. Or 10,000. Or even 5,000. You do realize that once you get past Eau Claire or GB, there’s nothing there right? Why don’t you head up to Hurley, and get to a place with more than 10,000 in an hour?

  83. Ruvell100 says: Feb 22, 2010 9:58 AM

    38 minutes from Hurley to Ashland, nice town of about 9,000 right along the south shore of Lake Superior. Either way, I’m done with this argument.

  84. Chickenfoot says: Feb 22, 2010 10:57 AM

    shaggytoodle says:
    February 21, 2010 3:34 PM
    Chickenfoot–
    It would be nice for you have ANYTHING for Vikes fans to hang their hat on, well I guess you all have that “we were better than the saints,” thing going.
    ===================================
    I realize the packers have and the Vikes have 0.
    WHat is idiotic is that you packer fans have to drag out the ” glory years” when the Vikings have the better team.
    You can’t just let it go that the Vikings were better this year, you have to bring up 14-43 years ago, which has nothing to do with present day teams.
    It’s an asinine argument and you know it.
    It would have about as much to do with me saying, well, so, the Twins have 2 wWorld Series wins, how many do the Brewers have?
    Moronic. But, I expect nothing less from losers such as yourself.

  85. Ambrose says: Feb 22, 2010 12:05 PM

    Majik Bullet says:
    February 21, 2010 4:25 PM
    Really? Go north, and find me a place with 50,000 (SUPERIOR.) Or 10,000 (MERRILL.) Or even 5,000 (RICE LAKE.) You do realize that once you get past Eau Claire or GB, there’s nothing there right? Why don’t you head up to Hurley, and get to a place with more than 10,000 in an hour (ASHLAND.)
    ___________________________________
    I’m sorry, what was the purpose of your worthless commentary?

  86. Ambrose says: Feb 22, 2010 4:10 PM

    Chickenfoot says:
    February 22, 2010 10:57 AM
    “You can’t just let it go that the Vikings were better this year…..”
    __________________________________
    Let what go? They may have finished with a better record, but the Vikings did not impress enough to say, “wow, they are so much better than the Packers.” OJ was found not guilty too, but that didn’t make him innocent.
    Seeing is believing and the Vikings didn’t separate themselves enough to warrant the acknowledgment you are demanding. Both teams had eerily similar stat’s, and the Packers met or exceeded the Vikings in several major categories….and did it with a team of under-achievers, not a boatload (get it?) of all-stars and (too many) pro-bowlers. So is the question really who is better, or who is luckier? Didn’t your rank-and-file spout that the best team didn’t win the NFC Championship? Yes, they did…and I agree….and I will also use that logic here. The Packers are at least “as good” as the Vikings. Find me one Packer fan that doesn’t agree.

  87. Beer Cheese Soup says: Feb 22, 2010 6:45 PM

    Ambrose says:
    The Packers are at least “as good” as the Vikings. Find me one Packer fan that doesn’t agree.
    ___________________________________
    Here’s one.
    You don’t get swept by teams that are just as good as you are, smart guy. The Vikings CLEARLY had the better team last season.
    If you want to be an idiot, by all means. Don’t drag the rest of our fanbase into this though. Most of us are decent intelligent people.
    Chickenfoot says:
    I realize the packers have and the Vikes have 0.
    WHat is idiotic is that you packer fans have to drag out the ” glory years” when the Vikings have the better team.
    You can’t just let it go that the Vikings were better this year, you have to bring up 14-43 years ago, which has nothing to do with present day teams.
    ___________________________________
    The Vikings were better than the Pack last year. They were better the year before that too, and they were also better in 1998. Is that up for debate? No. Is that any more relevant than the Packers “dusty old championship trophies”? Not really.
    The past is the past, no matter how long ago it was. Hope you enjoyed your run last year. It’s over now though, and you’re just as guilty as bringing up the “glory years” as anyone.

  88. Chickenfoot says: Feb 23, 2010 8:50 AM

    “Last year” is relevant beer because it was the LAST season played. Now, when we roll up to September, that is when it will mean nothing.
    Bragging about 14-43 years ago is what I’m calling asinine. Those teams have zero bearing on what happened this year.
    I see your point though.
    It’s just the fact that when the Vikings are better, we have to hear about yesteryear, and when the Pack is better, present day, we have to hear about that.
    Thanks, at least for the partial back up on saying the Vikes were better.
    Ambrose, your average packer fan is a moron.
    The Vikes could be 13-3 and the Pack 3-13, and 99% of your fanbase would say the Packers were better.
    Wait that happened in 08′ when the Vikes were 10-6, Pack 6-10……see what I mean?
    Idiot.

  89. Ambrose says: Feb 23, 2010 9:00 AM

    Beer Cheese Soup says:
    February 22, 2010 6:45 PM
    You don’t get swept by teams that are just as good as you are, smart guy. The Vikings CLEARLY had the better team last season.
    __________________________________
    OK, then answer this for me; Are the New Orleans Saints CLEARLY superior to the Vikings? I would say no…..and that establishes the basis of my contention. The Vikings finished with a better record but didn’t leave a THEY ARE CLEARLY BETTER stamp on my forehead, as they did on yours. Both teams had many in-common opponents with similar results. If the Packers had simply split with the Vikings, as is the case in most years, they would have had the same record. They didn’t, so the Vikings finished with a better record. How in the world does this make them CLEARLY SUPERIOR? Take your emotion out of it. Imagine if you had to explain the circumstances to a non-fan; the similar records, the in-common opponents, the better stat’s by the Packers, the second half record of 7-1 vs 5-3, the over-the-top never-to-be-repeated season by Favre, combined with the fact the Packers QB matched him! The Packers do not have as good of a secondary….that’s it. Would this person that you just finished explaining all of this to walk away thinking that the Packers are nearly as good as the Vikings, or would this person feel that the Vikings are CLEARLY SUPERIOR? Everyone on this site already knows the answer, except you. Oh…one last thing…if you’re going to make it personal….you can FO!

  90. Emoney says: Feb 23, 2010 10:41 AM

    I’m tired of arguing about something that will never end.
    The packers and vikings are both good teams.
    Wisconsin and Minnesota are both nice states to raise a family in.
    Wisconsin and Minnesota both have their share of farm lands with no civilization.
    The vikings were the better team this year. Next year is an entirely new year.
    Favre and Rodgers are both good QB’s.
    Neither team has won anything in recent years.
    This website is seriously starting to sound like grade school kids arguing.
    I’m sorry, I’m just tired of this constant fighting. I’m guilty of it in the past as well, but I just realized today that its never going to end.
    I’m sure that if I met Pervy or Majik or Jeff or whomever is a Viking fans on the street, I would get along with them just fine. The internet brings out the stupidity in all of us. I’ve met a lot of Viking fans in person, and those conversations are more logical than typing something online like a coward.
    By the way, Jolly is an idiot. Caught with a shit load of Codine. No excuse for that.

  91. Beer Cheese Soup says: Feb 23, 2010 10:59 AM

    Ambrose says:
    OK, then answer this for me; Are the New Orleans Saints CLEARLY superior to the Vikings?
    ____________________________________
    Yes.

  92. Chickenfoot says: Feb 23, 2010 11:50 AM

    Emoney:
    Totally agree.
    I’ve tried in the beginning to have decent conversations and debates with people.
    On this site, it just doesn’t work.
    There are quite a few people that have some interesting things to say and have knowledge of the sport. There are just so many idiots that sidetrack a person and then you get into inane debates with them.
    Adam-Chris, Fanoffootball, Hydra, Beer Cheese, yourself ,pervy, Majik and many others are very fun to debate with.
    I guess I will give it a try and not let the turds get to me.
    I’m going to try just answering the people I see on a daily basis, that I feel are worth responding too.
    Ambrose and Ruvell are included in this also.
    I may not agree with all of you on everything, but it is still fun to debate.

  93. Ambrose says: Feb 23, 2010 12:11 PM

    Chickenfoot/Emoney…I agree. I hope you both have a good off-season. There probably won’t be as much back-and-forth as there has been, but I think we have all come a long way since the “your mother is so fat…..” jokes that dominated the Packer/Viking pen-and-ink battles earlier this year. And Beer Cheese, you are in your own boat if you think the New Orleans Saints were clearly superior to the Vikings. More fortunate yes, superior, no way.

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