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Berry out-runs Haden at combine

The defensive backs are running Tuesday morning at the NFL scouting combine, and the top two players in the position group had very different results in the 40-yard dash.

Tennessee’s Eric Berry is in the process of solidifying his status as the top safety prospect with a good workout that included 40 times of 4.46 and 4.40 seconds. But Florida’s Joe Haden, who entered the combine widely regarded as the top cornerback prospect, ran disappointing times of 4.57 and 4.60 seconds.

Those 40 times are unofficial, and unofficial times deserve plenty of scrutiny. But while we have Berry going fourth overall and Haden going fifth in our mock draft, Berry looked a lot more like a Top 5 pick on Tuesday morning than Haden did.

NFL Network analyst Deion Sanders, who knows a little something about playing defensive back and about running fast 40-yard dashes, said Haden looked uncomfortable from the beginning and even suggested that Haden might be getting some coaching that has made him self-conscious about his running technique.

“First of all, it was a horrible stance,” Sanders said of Haden. “I don’t know what he’s being taught — sometimes you’ve just got to let a guy run. Tweak him a little bit but don’t try to change everything.”

Sanders is right: When wearing a helmet and shoulder pads, Haden looks like a guy who has all the speed he needs. But when wearing his underwear Tuesday morning, Haden didn’t look like an elite prospect.

After Haden’s second 40, Sanders said, “Someone text this man to shut him down.”

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27 Responses to “Berry out-runs Haden at combine”
  1. jj jones says: Mar 2, 2010 10:53 AM

    Please let this slower time cause Haden to slide to Jacksonville at 10.

  2. scrapdawg12 says: Mar 2, 2010 10:58 AM

    His arm needed to be up and he needs to explode with his first step. He is basically stumbling

  3. Raider B says: Mar 2, 2010 10:58 AM

    “while we have Berry going fourth overall and Haden going fifth in our mock draft, Berry looked a lot more like a Top 5 pick on Tuesday morning than Haden did.
    Funny how PFT on certain players such as Bruce Campbell, say 40 times arent imoportant, but then use the 40 to say Berry is the better prospect then Haden.

  4. Florio-is-a-tool says: Mar 2, 2010 11:12 AM

    Wasn’t Haden wearing gym clothes rather than underwear? I think you can be arrested for going out in public in your underwear.

  5. Big Stretch says: Mar 2, 2010 11:14 AM

    Underwear Olympics?
    it has a name already – NFL Combine or Combine.
    I think this may be a fruedian thing were you just wish they were in their underwear.
    We all know you are a clever wordsmith, but that doesn’t mean everything you come up with is clever. Underwear Olympics is just stupid, it’s time to admit it and move on.

  6. tobychu says: Mar 2, 2010 11:21 AM

    Awesome….should be there for the Brownies. THANK YOU COMBINE!

  7. Jason Garcia says: Mar 2, 2010 11:24 AM

    Wow Raider fans really are stupid. Obviously a 40 time matters a lot more for DBs than offensive linemen!!

  8. answer3 says: Mar 2, 2010 11:25 AM

    if a 40 time is relavent for a certain position it would definitely be for WR and secondary. (maybe RB, maybe) Gotta measure breakaway speed(WR,RB) and closing speed(DB) somehow.
    “Text the man!” haha

  9. onesweetworld says: Mar 2, 2010 11:27 AM

    This Combine is turning more and more into a farce every year

  10. PurpleRaid12 says: Mar 2, 2010 11:30 AM

    “Funny how PFT on certain players such as Bruce Campbell, say 40 times arent imoportant, but then use the 40 to say Berry is the better prospect then Haden.”
    While I wouldn’t say Florio is necessarily an ‘expert’ on the subject, it probably is true to say an OT like Bruce Campbell’s 40 time isn’t important compared to a DB like Haden, whose job it is to cover a WR…

  11. Big Tex says: Mar 2, 2010 11:31 AM

    @Raider B
    Are you under the impression that speed isn’t more important to a DB than it is to an OT?

  12. Red says: Mar 2, 2010 11:32 AM

    Combine results: meaningless except when they’re not. Underwear.

  13. tikyle says: Mar 2, 2010 11:37 AM

    As one UF grad to another “Don’t sweat it Haden.” I’m assuming he graduated (big assumption since he was a junior). Either way Berry is more of an impact player than Haden so he should be drafted higher.
    And also in today’s NFL safety is more important than corner. As Revis showed last yr a corner can take away one guy.
    As Bethea and Sharper and Polamalu and Reed showed last year a safety can take away an entire chunk of the field whether it be the deep middle or the mid middle in Polamalu’s case.
    Just think of the number of impact corners vs impact safeties and it’s safe to say the NFL has turned into a DE/OLB, FS, SS game instead of a MLB, DT, CB type of game it used to be.

  14. jetwooderson says: Mar 2, 2010 11:38 AM

    I don’t know what Revis’ times were, but Haden reminds me of a shut-down corner. This guy is going to be great.

  15. phillygator says: Mar 2, 2010 12:02 PM

    I blame Coach Meyer for not preparing Haden to run faster.

  16. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Mar 2, 2010 12:10 PM

    Michael David Smith is gay

  17. Raider B says: Mar 2, 2010 12:13 PM

    @ Big Tex, when did i ever say the 40 time is more important for a OT then a DB? Im just saying PFT claims a 40 isnt important, but then to judge players in the same postion such as DBs on the 40 is a contradiction regardless of position.
    So theyre saying Berry ran the better 40, so he looks like the better prospect apposed to Haden soley on his 40? When, they post 40 times mean nothing? How is that not a contradiction?

  18. Koheba says: Mar 2, 2010 12:17 PM

    Raider B says:
    “Funny how PFT on certain players such as Bruce Campbell, say 40 times arent imoportant, but then use the 40 to say Berry is the better prospect then Haden. ”
    Ummm…. Bruce Campell is an offensive lineman, while Berry and Haden are defensive backs… does that say enough or do I have to explain further for your feeble mind?

  19. Jungle Juice says: Mar 2, 2010 12:19 PM

    I dont understand why they dont time these guys with pads on and from a standing position. It’s hard to compare how fast they will be on the field going by track style.

  20. Raider B says: Mar 2, 2010 12:20 PM

    @ Jason Garcia
    Wow Raider fans really are stupid. Obviously a 40 time matters a lot more for DBs than offensive linemen!!
    No Duh, DBs 40s are more important than Lineman, thats not my point at all. Please pay attention, im saying to judge two players like the article above is doing about Eric Berry being the better prospect then Joe Haden soley becuase he ran a better 40 but then say 40s mean nothing is a contradiction.
    Please get some reading comprehension, your like talking to a kid.

  21. Raider B says: Mar 2, 2010 12:53 PM

    @ Koheba
    Ummm…. Bruce Campell is an offensive lineman, while Berry and Haden are defensive backs… does that say enough or do I have to explain further for your feeble mind?
    Your an idiot, once again another dumb ass missing the point. It doesnt matter BC is a lineman. My point is PFT is saying since Berry ran the faster 40 hes a better prospect then Haden. If thats the case Taylor Mays is a better prospect then both of em. Damn Retards!

  22. Big Tex says: Mar 2, 2010 1:16 PM

    @Raider B
    Did they say 40 times aren’t important OR that 40 times aren’t as important for OL? Most scouts had Eric Berry rated ahead of Joe Haden prior to the combine. How can noting that Berry’s time, which is considered very good, solidifing his position ahead of Haden, who ran a less than stellar time, be considered contradictory?
    So long story short;
    40 times for DBs and WRs: Important.
    40 times for OL and DL: Less important.
    Obviously, the 40 time isn’t everything. For additional evidence of that statement, see last year’s Raider draft.

  23. blueridge624 says: Mar 2, 2010 1:19 PM

    40 times may be overrated in some instances, but not with top 10 cornerbacks. Has a CB ever been drafted in the top 10 after running a 4.60 forty? Haden’s bad time is more surprising than Taylor Mays’ 4.24.

  24. Raider B says: Mar 2, 2010 1:41 PM

    @ Lil Tex,
    your missing my point, PFT always says 40 times arent important but then say berry solidifies his spot by running a faster 40? How is that not contradictive? And by the way, Just cuz theyre DBs, doesnt mean they play the same position. Berry is a safety, Haden a Corner. Thats like comparing a Tackle with a gaurd.

  25. tikyle says: Mar 2, 2010 2:46 PM

    @Raider B
    It’s not contradictive. 40 times are overrated but drafters use it none the less and if a guy performs at the combine or overachieves at the combine it does nothing but solidify their draft position.
    Have you ever heard of a top 10 pick going into the combine, tear it up at the combine and still not get picked top 10?

  26. Big Tex says: Mar 2, 2010 4:08 PM

    @Raider B
    It’s even MORE important for a CB to run fast than a Safety. You seem to be just as stubborn at supporting your untenable position as Al is at saying JaWalrus is going to be a great QB. Quick question, do you own an overhead projector?

  27. GOBOISESTATE says: Mar 3, 2010 10:08 AM

    Kyle Wilson is the best CB in the draft and should be ahead of Haden now as he should have been in the first place.

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