More fun with tampering: Bears met with Peppers' agent

The Bears have taken an illegal running head start towards free agency, according to the Chicago Tribune.

David Kaplan reports that the representative for Julius Peppers, Carl Carey, met with Bears brass during the NFL Scouting Combine.  Carey has only one active contract in the NFL, so he’s not just chit-chatting.

We know: this stuff happens all the time.  It happens so much, the word “tampering” isn’t even in the story in the Tribune

Denials will come swiftly Wednesday, but the league has to have a problem when their rules are flaunted so publicly. 

49 responses to “More fun with tampering: Bears met with Peppers' agent

  1. Again this isn’t tampering. This does not affect the working relationship between Peppers and the Panthers as they have made their intentions know.

  2. Maybe that’s why they haven’t officially named Tim Ruskell as an employee yet. Perhaps he’s the intermediary.

  3. “Pay Peppers $60 Million.
    Pay the league $250,000 for tampering.
    We got our man.”
    Bears Brass

  4. Carl met with Bear brass to polish his presentation skills. Apparently, Bear have offered Carl assistance in how he should approach clients.
    Only time Julius Peppers name came up was when Jerry asked Carl to pass him the salt and well…… Could have awkward but later Lovie made a joke and everybody had a good laugh….

  5. Let’s go Goodell dock them a draft pick just like you did to the niners for “Talking” with Lance Briggs a couple years ago. Let’s try to make this league as fair as we can.

  6. Make them pay- they cried tampering with Briggs so they should get punished for this. On second thought, they have been punished enough by the trade for Cutler.

  7. Goodell will have no choice but to respond harshly, as he always does when rules that shouldn’t be on the books are openly flauted and mocked.
    The Mob in Las Vegas needs to know what the line should be? So Goodell makes sure to penalize teams that *gasp* don’t want to tell the other team that a star player is injured or perhaps ready to play.
    Filming plays and play calling from the stands is fine – every team does it and there’s no rule against it. But do it from the sideline where the fans, who actually think that stealing playcalling is new or illegal, and Godell will come down hard.
    Engage in tampering smartly and quietly – no problem, but flaunt it like this?
    Goodbye draft pick.

  8. Cue the people claiming PFT is insidiously making a mountain out of a mole regarding tampering charges when they are actually just dutifully reporting on a story run in the Chicago Tribune.
    Predictable.

  9. It’s pretty obvious that the Panthers don’t want him back. They’re not going to gripe if the guy is exploring his options a few days before he becomes an official free agent. And they shouldn’t. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if permission was asked for and received beforehand. Why would they be assholes about it? We’re not talking about the 0-3gles, who are notorious for doing spiteful crap just because they
    can. Does anybody but me remember what Andy Reid did to George Hegamin after he was late to a meeting? He made Hegamin push a blocking sled the length of the field while fatass Andy stood on it. Then he cut him. What a dick move.

  10. “Cue the people claiming PFT is insidiously making a mountain out of a mole regarding tampering charges when they are actually just dutifully reporting on a story run in the Chicago Tribune.”
    And screaming “TAMPERING!”
    The only screams that mean anything in this case are the ones that aren’t coming from the Panthers.

  11. Did you make your lawyering money from the ambulance calls in the paper? How do you know the Panthers didn’t give Peppers permission to talk to other teams? Funny stuff.

  12. I think Chicago is just trying to get rid of that pesky 3rd round pick, so they don’t have to show up to the draft until day 3…

  13. All you haters on Jay Cutler will ultimately pay the price….trust me! I am not high on the immenent Peppers signing ( which is ridiculous but is coming ) … but come on…. u know CUT is goin to throw for 5K this year… U know it!
    Rolle is coming too!

  14. Rosenthal you dumbass- the word you want is “Flout” NOT “Flaunt”. God damnit this aint the first time- Now dock his pay Florio!

  15. Seeing as this is an uncapped and unregulated year, this is technically not against the rules.

  16. “Carey has only one active contract in the NFL, so he’s not just chit-chatting.”
    If Carey speaking to teams before Friday is an issue and Peppers is his only cliuent, why did the NFL let him into combine?

  17. Bears should lose their 5th round choice and should swap 7th round draft choices with the Panthers.
    If that was fair punishment for the 49ers then it should be fair for the Bears. The Bears cried like little babies when the Niners did essentially much the same thing. (I know the contract situation is different, But Peppers is still exclusive to the Panthers right now.) I don’t believe that Peppers is officially a free agent yet. While he may not be under contract with the Panthers, he is still considered their exclusive “property” up until free agency starts. The Panthers are the ONLY team that is allowed to speak with Peppers or his agent at this time. Any other contact is tampering and should be punished.
    I wonder if the Panthers are going to cry as loud as the Bears did?

  18. This is just getting annoying. It is unfair to teams who want to follow the rules when other teams do this.
    I dont think it works this way but can another team file tampering charges that doesnt own the players rights?
    I doubt the Eagles are going to make a serious push for Peppers. Mostly because what ever Eagles fans want them to do they do the opposite, and that they usaully dont sign the top free agents unless no one thinks they will(Asante Samuels). But if the Bears are already talking to Peppers agent its going to make that much harder.
    I hope Peppers agent doesnt get over anixous, like Florio said he only has 1 other player, and just signs the first good contract that Peppers is offered. He better just relax and realize that he doesnt have to sign a contract right away . Carey needs to understand if a team is willing to pay Peppers big money when the clock strikes 12 they will still be willing to do it on Saturday.
    He needs to get in contact with every team that is reportedly even a little interested in Peppers and see what they are willing to give him. You never know 1 of the teams that dont think they will be able to sign him might actually be willing to give him the best contract without realizing it.
    Also I hope they both realize how income taxes work. A $80 million dollar contract in New York after taxes can be worth less then a $60 million dollar contract in Florida.
    After he hears all the offers that are out their he should give each team a chance to match. Once that is all done Carey and Peppers need to sit down and make a choice of were they want to go.

  19. Weren’t the Bears the team that took away a 49ers draft pick and swapped picks with them as well because the 49ers had a phone conversation with Drew Rosenhaus (Frank Gore, Demetric Evans, Marcus Hudson, Jason Hill etc. etc.’s agent)?
    Still PO’d about that one.
    The most unfair tampering deal ever in the NFL and noone can deny that. Zero evidence even.

  20. If you look at the story, it says “sources” tell him that the Bears met with the guy.
    My guess is that these “sources” are a couple of drunk fat humps in an Indianapolis bar.
    No proof, no sanctions.

  21. RaiderhateR4Life says:
    March 2, 2010 11:31 PM
    Let’s go Goodell dock them a draft pick just like you did to the niners for “Talking” with Lance Briggs a couple years ago. Let’s try to make this league as fair as we can.
    ————————————————–
    Exactly what must be done here in all fairness. At this rate, by the time the draft rolls around, the Bears won’t be picking until the 5th round.

  22. # Zaggs says:
    Again this isn’t tampering. This does not affect the working relationship between Peppers and the Panthers as they have made their intentions known.
    Unfortunately, it does affect 30 other clubs who might like to vie for his services on a level playing ground in free agency.

  23. This is Florio once again being an A-hole and turning his minions into A-holes as well. THis meeting is posted prominantly on NFL.com without mention od anything devious. It’s well known that the Panthers are letting Peppers walk – how is it tampering for the Bears to find out just what his agent will be asking? Stop being such a wuus to keep whining about tampering when the NFL is well aware what is going on in plain sight.

  24. If the Bears get Peppers, then Brett Favre will be more inclined to stay retired, so, I’m going to allow this.

  25. Tampering charges would then to prove what they were talking about. That would be difficult. I don’t think owners or management of teams should run in fear from an agent because if they were caught talking with them it would incite charges of tampering.
    Out of curiosity, what is the penalty fo rthe other half of a tampering incident? What penalty is there for the player’s agent? Or the player if they are the other part of the conversation?

  26. Actually if he has more than one CLIENT (not active contract) then he can say it was about the other client, active NFL player or not. He was at the scouting combine. He could claim to be trying to drum up business for going-to-be undrafted free agent prospects.

  27. Tampering is a problem in the NFL but Goodell has proven that he is willing to turn a blind eye to most of it, hell, they had Childress talking to Favre while he was under contract to the Packers and Goodell didn’t have the balls to do anything about it. Fining them a draft choice would be better than losing a championship game with an INT in field goal range so karma exacted its own punishment in that case.

  28. This is clearly different than what SF did. SF spoke to Briggs agent during the season without the bears permission. He was under contract and the ywere discussing a trade but SF decided to see if they would be able to sign him long term. Carolina isn’t going to resign him.
    There really has to be overwhelming evidence to catch someone tampering. I mean if danny boy didn’t tamper with Bustworth then no one does.

  29. Shows how dumb most peopel here are as they repeat the same things….
    The post was not even written by Florio yet half the comme ts yell at him.

  30. Only ToolVox would relate a piece r/g Julius Peppers and th ebears to the Eagles. I think Vox is gay for the Eagles but is not ready to come out of ther closet yet.
    Magic the Gathering anyone?

  31. Love Boat, you’re absolutely right.. We will all be thanking Pep because Farve definitely doesnt want to see that guy twice or more in one season.

  32. Route36West says:
    March 3, 2010 2:00 AM
    This is just getting annoying. It is unfair to teams who want to follow the rules when other teams do this.
    =============================
    No team wants to follow the rules. None. There is no incentive to follow the rule, and no penalty for breaking it.
    You honestly think there is some GM or owner out there saying “golly gee, I should would like to talk to Julius and let him know we’re interested, but gosh darnit I ain’t gonna be one of them there rule-breakers”. I wish them fellas would just knock it off.”
    Get rid of the stupid rule. What is the point of not allowing a team to talk to a player before some specific date? If the season is over and the player is not participating in any team activities, there is no harm that can be done by teams putting out preliminary feelers to players they may be interested in.
    Dumb, unenforceable rules, whether it be in the NFL or society in general, do nothing but breed contempt of authority.

  33. Quick! Who is Carey’s second most famous player not under contract with a NFL team? I don’t know either, but thats who they were talking about, the Bears are thinking about giving him a workout.

  34. If the Bears want Peppers they gotta go through Dan Snyder to get him…………………

  35. “Only ToolVox would relate a piece r/g Julius Peppers and th ebears to the Eagles.”
    Only because it’s beginning to look like I’m the only non-linear thinker on PFT. You 0-3gle fans need to stick with your bad math skills and leave the deep thinking to people with triple digit IQs.
    “I think Vox is gay for the Eagles but is not ready to come out of ther closet yet.”
    I think that people that overuse the word “gay” are gay.
    “Magic the Gathering anyone?”
    I’ve never played that in my life, but if you and I sat down for a game it would be just one more thing that I’d kick your lowbrow ass at.

  36. well ima carolina panther fan..hey bears we want a draft pick . you did it to moose..now peppers you didnt get caught with moose but we got you now. we want your draft pick.

  37. Vox:
    I agree with you far more than I disagree with you, and I generally enjoy your merciless hounding of Eagles fans. However, tying everything that happens everywhere in the football world to the singlular object of your hatred hardly qualifies as non-linear thinking.
    Besides, a much better example of the spiteful crap the Eagles do is the way they slap the franchise tag on a player, wait until the free agent market dries up, and then takes the tag off when everyone has already spent their money. They did this to Jeremiah Trotter and at least one other player whose name is escaping me now.

  38. When you are following Vince McMahon and the WWE as the model for your packaging, as the “Don” Goodell is doing, you WANT the ignoring of your “rules to be publicly flaunted.

  39. nothing will help the bears. they have already sold their soul for cutler. you cannot just buy it back

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