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Source: Eagles have refused to entertain a single offer for McNabb

NFL_McNabb5_250.jpgAs the rumors and the speculation continue regarding the question of whether quarterback Donovan McNabb will return to the Eagles in 2010 or whether he’ll be traded as soon as Friday, a source with knowledge of the situation tells us that the Eagles have heard from multiple teams about McNabb, but that the Eagles have not permitted any of them to make an offer.  Yet.

Per the source, the latest team to be linked to McNabb — the Rams — have not contacted the Eagles.  Yet.

But it’s expected that aggressive efforts will be made, notwithstanding McNabb’s contractual status or his age.  With Brett Favre and Kurt Warner achieving high levels of success in their late 30s and beyond, McNabb could still have many productive years left.

And though he has not yet won a championship, McNabb indeed has been productive.  Under McNabb, the Eagles have advanced to the postseason eight times in 10 years, and they have played in the NFC title game five times in nine seasons.

So why would the Eagles not simply hang up the phone whenever someone calls?  Because every player has a price.  And with a Montana-Young dilemma gradually coming into focus, given the presence of Kevin Kolb on the depth chart, the Eagles at some point need to choose between the two.

Our guess is that the Eagles would be willing to choose Kolb now, if someone gives them enough of a reason to wish McNabb on his way.

Then there’s the issue of McNabb’s contract.  Though an extension negotiated simultaneously with a trade would be preferred, it could be that a team takes him “as is,” with the opportunity to work out a new deal (like the Chiefs did with Matt Cassel) and the availability of the year-to-year franchise tag, assuming that this device for restricting the movement of unrestricted free agents survives the next labor deal.

Regardless of what happens, it’s clear to us that the Eagles won’t be giving McNabb away, and that they’re trying to coax someone into a Herschel Walker-type of an offer.

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89 Responses to “Source: Eagles have refused to entertain a single offer for McNabb”
  1. wydok says: Mar 4, 2010 2:01 PM

    Just as it should be. McNabb is Reid’s man. McNabb is a company man. They aren’t going to get rid of him.

  2. jd says: Mar 4, 2010 2:04 PM

    McNabb for the #1 pick.
    Please don’t let Suh go to those life-sucking Rams.

  3. fuhgyou says: Mar 4, 2010 2:05 PM

    Making a story where it doesn’t exist with your cleverly placed yets.

  4. NinerNation says: Mar 4, 2010 2:07 PM

    Please don’t compare them to Montana-Young…Brees-Rivers is better suited…the only thing McNabb has accomplished in his career is spitting up his Chunky Soup in the Super Bowl.

  5. emoser says: Mar 4, 2010 2:08 PM

    We want McNabb… don’t believe the few loudmouths that would have you believe we don’t appreciate what he does. I think Kolb would be great for us after he retires, but in fairness to him I think he should be traded to someone who would start him.

  6. kingkolb says: Mar 4, 2010 2:11 PM

    I’m fairly certain that should read, “Under Reid, the Eagles have advanced to the postseason 8 times in 10 years.” I believe Reid got there using multiple QBs, not just McNabb.

  7. fatso says: Mar 4, 2010 2:13 PM

    firstly, I bleen green….
    You know what, fuk it, I’m ready to pull the trigger on KK. Let DM go while he’s still worth something to somebody.
    I guess we shall see.

  8. Brooklyn Eagle says: Mar 4, 2010 2:15 PM

    Less Montana-Young.. More Jaworski-Cunningham

  9. WildBirdOffense says: Mar 4, 2010 2:16 PM

    A source with knowledge — who is that? We are all sources with knowledge of the situation. LMAO

  10. My Coke Can says: Mar 4, 2010 2:20 PM

    I think McNabb has pics of Andy Reid doing something that he is not proud of…. Like eating a salad…

  11. Duck Fallas says: Mar 4, 2010 2:20 PM

    Before anyone has a hissy fit:
    Donovan McNabb =/= Joe Montana
    Kevin Kolb =/= Steve Young

  12. FtheVaGiants says: Mar 4, 2010 2:22 PM

    4>5

  13. SonOfNOLA says: Mar 4, 2010 2:25 PM

    Andy Reid is trying hard to not look like an idiot by keeping all 3 QB’s, but by doing so he’s preventing his team from being a legitimate SB contender. Trading McNabb would certainly help them at other positions that they’re in need of that they can get in return. He isn’t being realistic to think that Vick is worth a second round pick, based off of last season stats. Had he used him more, then teams would’ve been took him up on that offer.

  14. Jetstastic says: Mar 4, 2010 2:25 PM

    McNabb is good but hes a product of Reid’s system… send him someone else and he’ll be mediocre.

  15. Cameltoecleavage says: Mar 4, 2010 2:26 PM

    I don’t understand why andy spent a 2nd round pick on Kolb if he is still inserted in mcnabbs rear and plans to be for a few more years he has had no intention of getting rid of him yet drafts the hopeful future of the franchise, I can see where his kids get their smarts from

  16. flavordave says: Mar 4, 2010 2:29 PM

    Fans in Philly appreciate McNabb and his years here. Much like New England and Drew Bledsoe there comes a point where you can only witness so many choke jobs ie. wormballs and free safety bulls eye shots that you say to yourself “Self, I cant keep watching this groundhogs day over and over again ” Nice guy, good pro, bad performer in the clutch.

  17. Dr. Fantasy von Football, Esq. says: Mar 4, 2010 2:29 PM

    The question is this: Is Kolb the second coming of Aaron Rogers or A.J. Feeley? I attended Kolb’s second start against the Chiefs and I’ve seen all his throws (including his brief appearance against the Stillers also live at the Linc), and I think he’s exhibited enough potential to justify the risk in jettisoning McNabb, who, by the way, is unquestionably the best QB in modern, if not all, Eagles’ history. If the Eagles hold on to him than, like the Lito Sheppard situation, the value inevitably will diminish (unless McNabb leads the Eagles to the Title – but wouldn’t that have happened already if it were ever going to happen?).

  18. penguininbondage says: Mar 4, 2010 2:35 PM

    It’s all about ball washing. They can’t be overly anxious to trade him.

  19. gopher says: Mar 4, 2010 2:36 PM

    This is about much of a story right now as if Favre is coming back or not.

  20. Count Sacula says: Mar 4, 2010 2:41 PM

    @ Flavordave:
    Well said my man. It is time to move on.
    Let the Kolb era begin. The two starting opportunities that he had proved that he is capable of leading a team.

  21. mustbechris says: Mar 4, 2010 2:42 PM

    Score: Good Guys – 1; Haters – 0
    the silent majority is very happy to hear this. the small group of dumbasses who wont shut the hell up about mcnabb will continue to not shut the hell up, but this is a small victory for those of us with at least half a braincell.

  22. scorpiodsu says: Mar 4, 2010 2:49 PM

    Kingkolb, you’d be wrong. The eagles only made it to the playoffs 1 time when mcnabb didn’t finish the season and that was in 2006 with jeff Garcia. And they only missed it one time when he finished te season. So it hasn’t been multiple qb’s. They missed the playoffs in reids first year, they missed in 2005 and in 2007.

  23. phillyeagleschamps says: Mar 4, 2010 2:49 PM

    McNabb’s days are over, it is time to pass the torch to Vick.
    This reminds me of Montana and Young.

  24. Dixon29 says: Mar 4, 2010 2:54 PM

    Anyone, and I do mean ANYONE who annoits either one of these quarterbacks as Montana or Young doesn’t have a clue about football.
    Montana has 4 Super Bowls victories collecting 3 MVP’s along the way. Don’t give me that crap about he had Jerry Rice either. Steve Young won the Super Bowl after the ’94 season and also won the MVP. McNabb is great, don’t get me wrong, but Kolb has only ATTEMPTED 130 passes in his entire career!
    You all are really doing a dis serviceto Steve Young and just like Matt Millen’s actions of being a jackass of a studio analyst on MNF, you all owe Mr. Young an apology.
    I am not even a Niner fan, but please do not discredit the greatest dynasty in the NFL in my lifetime, possibly ever.

  25. scorpiodsu says: Mar 4, 2010 2:55 PM

    A game against the KC Chiefs shouldn’t convince anyone. Kolb can be the next Aaron Rodgers or he may not. For the joker that said McNabb is a product of Andy Reid’s system, you must did not see one Eagle’s game in the past decade. The truth of the matter is McNabb has made Andy’s pass happy and never run the ball offense look good with mediocre talent (for the most part) to throw the ball to. Don’t give us the product of the system crap, McNabb had Trash and Stinkston, Freddit Mitchell, Reggie Brown, Na Brown, Torrence Small to throw the ball to 35 times a game. He made Reid look good by making plays that were there. Go back and do some studying.

  26. cleanface says: Mar 4, 2010 2:55 PM

    Reid is waiting for someone to throw offer a 1st round draft pick and a bucket of chicken wings.

  27. Chapnasty2 says: Mar 4, 2010 2:56 PM

    “And though he has not yet won a championship, McNabb indeed has been productive. Under McNabb, the Eagles have advanced to the postseason eight times in 10 years, and they have played in the NFC title game five times in nine seasons.”
    This is called letting your fans down… over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
    “And with a Montana-Young dilemma gradually coming into focus, given the presence of Kevin Kolb on the depth chart, the Eagles at some point need to choose between the two.”
    It will be a cold day in hell when McNabb is in the same sentence as Montana or when Kolb is in the same article as Young.

  28. doubldipp says: Mar 4, 2010 2:58 PM

    Mcnabb sells!! look how many prime time games the Eagles got with Mcnabb. Every yr the sports talk people say hey what’s going on with a Mcnabb trade, even when Andy Reid tells you it’s not going to happen people still talk. same crap last yr when they got Vick, same crap when they drafted Kolb.

  29. CountSnail says: Mar 4, 2010 2:58 PM

    He’s gotta go now. At least listen to the offers, you strong-willed walrus.

  30. Whiterhinocerous says: Mar 4, 2010 3:00 PM

    Please, Florio. Not a Hershel Walker type of trade.
    Just a Roy Williams type of trade. The difference being, y’know, that the team that gets McNabb will be getting a productive player for their draft picks.

  31. Iggles fan says: Mar 4, 2010 3:02 PM

    montana-young……really!? Maybe Favre-Rodgers, or Brees-Rivers, Bledsoe-Brady………Well hopefully Bledsoe-Brady

  32. Mooch says: Mar 4, 2010 3:08 PM

    Mustbechris…
    What, exactly, was enjoyable or exciting about last year?
    What do you get from a season with no hope of winning it all? Doesn’t it make the ten wins totally meaningless? Kind of like a 44 win 76ers season?
    McNabb is like the good looking who is stupid and boring. Sooner or later, it stops being exciting and you break up with her.

  33. My Coke Can says: Mar 4, 2010 3:16 PM

    phillyeagleschamps, This reminds you of what??????????OMG I read your posts and you are so far gone from reality. You say this reminds you of Montana and Young. WOW, in what way? McNabb will never ever be Montana and Vick could not hold Steve Youngs Jock. Please man, you should not embarass yourself anymore with such idiotic statements. I think there is a PFT for idiots book, download it for free. Read it all the way through. Then post something about uhhh I don’t know. Dan Snyder everyone agrees to hate him.

  34. sdffa11 says: Mar 4, 2010 3:16 PM

    as a lifelong eagles fan and mcnabb supporter, all i can say is WHY?! he and andy reid wasted 11 years of my life and im through with both of them, not the organization though.

  35. phillyeagleschamps says: Mar 4, 2010 3:16 PM

    McNabb has a higher winning PCT than Montana.
    Vick has won more games than Young.

  36. Percy Nugz says: Mar 4, 2010 3:19 PM

    Philadelphia fans have under appreciated McNabb for way to long. Its about time the fans got their wish and McNabb gets dealt. The Vikings would be a great fit considering they know how to appreciate good players, unlike Killadelphia.

  37. FMWarner says: Mar 4, 2010 3:24 PM

    All you people whose heads are exploding because PFT compared McNabb/Kolb to Montana/Young need to take a step back.
    Never did the writer say that McNabb was as good as Montana or Kolb was as good as Young. It’s merely a similar situation. The team drafted an heir apparent and then the current starter wound up being productive longer than expected, creating a logjam at the position where the young player’s progress is being stifled. That’s all. Jesus.

  38. Mooch says: Mar 4, 2010 3:27 PM

    Vikings fans are great. After all, every great fan base has to hear every year about how their team is moving to LA. You guys don’t support that team. Please.
    SDFFA – the 8-8 Buddy years were far more entertaining and exciting than a 12-4 Reid season. When you KNOW you have no chance, it lacks the spark.
    Have you ever seen this city more apathetic about an Eagles team?

  39. Italian Leprechaun says: Mar 4, 2010 3:29 PM

    As an Eagles fan I remember hostilely watching All-Pro LB Jeremiah Trotter leave to NFC East rival Washington Redskins. Levon Kirkland did a hell of a job if I remember filling the gap in the middle. Then, All-Pro Cornerback’s Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent leave through free agency to the Seahawks and Bills. In come two young nobodys in Sheldon Brown and Lito Sheppard who became All-Pro CB’s. And, just to close the circle, we watch Lito get annoyed when Asante was signed and Sheldon get pissed that he signed a contract 4 years ago that is now not paying him “fair market value.” The Eagles are one of the best financial management teams in the NFL. But, let’s be honest, the Eagles are terrible, and I mean terrible, at the HR aspect of management.
    Every player is replaceable on the Eagles roster. There is someone out there that can play just as well as the last guy and win 12 games a year. I could probably play QB in that system and get the squad to an NFC Championship game. I’m sure I’d also choke, cause that’s what all good QB’s do in Championship games (and in case you don’t know sarcasm, this is a great example). Those of you Iggles fans out there who talk about how great McNabb is and how dedicated the city is to him obviously had seats in the lower level of the Vet. Maybe you should have come up to the 700 level once in a while to experience life as a real fan. The man is a fraud who’s done nothing in his years as a QB in Philly except set high expectations only to disappoint. I mean, then again, AJ Feely and Koy Detmer had an 83% win percentage as a starting QB in this system in 2002 and Jeff Garcia was a 5-1 as a starter in 2006 when Donovan was a much, much better 5-5 that same season.
    I think it’s safe to say McNabb is a great QB in a terrible system and we should do everything in our power to keep him. (I should change my user name to “sarcastic Eagles fan”) McNabb is a joke… draft my grandmother and I bet she can win an NFC East division or two.

  40. tombrookshire says: Mar 4, 2010 3:30 PM

    Warner and Favre are both something that McNabb is not – durable. The oft-hurt McNabb is due for another season ending injury. Possibly, the only cure for McNabb’s happy feet and lack of accuracy is a big, sturdy offensive line. Rebuilding teams cannot offer that assurance. That fact alone makes McNabbl, at his age and with faltering skills no better than many of the journeyman quarterbacks he could replace. While he is in the last year of a contract, it is a 95% certainty that he will be behind center for the Eagles in 2010 if not longer. Kolb showed last year that he is ready to start, but Reid is reluctant to mess with “the formula” especially if his guy is getting it done. To their mercenary management, the post season is insignificant. So, another choking McNabb performance in the playoffs is acceptable as long as they continue to sell season tickets, jerseys, hats and cheerleader calendars.

  41. Mooch says: Mar 4, 2010 3:30 PM

    LA Vikings. Ah, how sweet the sound!
    Percy, how will you watch McNabb QB your team to playoff losses? On Sunday Ticket? Because there won’t be a local broadcast. You will have to become a Packer fan I suppose.

  42. PDT says: Mar 4, 2010 3:41 PM

    PhillyEagles, McNabb may have had a higher % of wins, but remember Montana first 2 yrs. under Walsh, in a new system/not good players, was 2-14 and 2-14 – DeBerg started the first season for a couple of games. Both of them almost got fired. There is no comparison, McNabb has been very good, but not good enough, and there were yrs. where they strong enough to win. As a SF native and Cowboy’s fan, Montana’s performances still kill me. McNabb’s scramble and 50 yd. completion on, I believe MNF vs. the Cowboys, was insane. The Vikes, if Favre retires again, is the best spot for him. The Niners, Raiders, or even Bills would be other good options. They should start Kolb or Vick this year.

  43. Peoples Champ says: Mar 4, 2010 3:42 PM

    @phillyeagleschamps
    You continue to embarass yourself. Montana has FOUR…count ‘em, FOUR SB rings. McNabb? ZERO SB rings. Montana is not a legendary choke artist, McNabb always has been and always will be. That’s why alot of 0-3girls fans want him out. And I’m not gonna even respond to your Vick and Steve Young comparison. Just idiotic. Much like your screen name…

  44. Mooch says: Mar 4, 2010 3:42 PM

    Italian…
    Do you remember Levon Kirkland? Or was your comment tongue in cheek?
    Because I just saw Joe Jurevicius running past me on Oregon Avenue. And he looks really happy.

  45. Dr. Michael says: Mar 4, 2010 3:45 PM

    Can the Eagles trade father of the year Andy Reid with McLoser? Please!

  46. Dave Spadaro says: Mar 4, 2010 3:51 PM

    Go Green!

  47. Dr. Hannibal Lector says: Mar 4, 2010 3:52 PM

    If Kolb is the future than make the future now. You can get good compensation for McNabb so you that pick and your first 2 picks to try to plug holes on D.
    Or you can go one more year with him, with a defense with holes in it, which isn’t gonna get you a championship anyway.
    This makes no sense. Isn’t it smarter to sacrifice one last year with McNabb in exchange for a good draft pick, and go with a re-loading year rather than going for it one last time then getting nothing for him?

  48. Mooch says: Mar 4, 2010 3:54 PM

    Stop it. We all know that QB’s are evaluated based on their record vs. sub .500 teams. Not sure how a Super Bowl win comes into play.
    Yes, Montana had “The Catch”. And 4 titles.
    But McNabb’s record against Chan Gailey cannot be overlooked, and has to be given equal weight!

  49. KolbFan says: Mar 4, 2010 3:58 PM

    FlavorDave says it perfectly:
    Fans in Philly appreciate McNabb and his years here. Much like New England and Drew Bledsoe there comes a point where you can only witness so many choke jobs ie. wormballs and free safety bulls eye shots that you say to yourself “Self, I cant keep watching this groundhogs day over and over again ” Nice guy, good pro, bad performer in the clutch.
    Nice post. Nail on the head.

  50. TheWizard says: Mar 4, 2010 4:02 PM

    McNabb has a higher winning PCT than Montana.
    Vick has won more games than Young.

    I can’t believe anybody is entertaining the thought of comparing these guys.
    Just stop, before you embarrass yourself further.

  51. Onthewagonsince90 says: Mar 4, 2010 4:02 PM

    really a father comment.. Id love to meet all of these pricks on here that write these nasty and irrelavent comments… Specially the ones that sign on here every single day just to bash Florio..
    GET A FREGGAN LIFE

  52. SFrancis1680 says: Mar 4, 2010 4:03 PM

    Montana-Young??? seriously, Florio, they aren’t even Farve-Rodgers… all 3 Eagle QBs are in the last year of their deals, why give up a high pick, when most likely Mc Nabb won’t be extended, and will be a free agent after next year???…besides, IF they are looking at a lockout next year, that would even lessen the time you would have to play McNabb,…no matter how much guys on WIP talk about wanting to trade McNabb, you don’t trade top 10 QBs,…i’m sure any GM with half a brain, needs to look at the Eagles last two games, against Dallas, to see WHY the Eagles fans want him gone.

  53. Fly Eagles Fly says: Mar 4, 2010 4:10 PM

    McNabb is not a winner. And this is not news to anyone, so letting our second round pick (Kolb) waste away on the bench is frustrating. Watching McNabb dance around and smile all game makes every person in philly want to cut the brakes on his Bentley.

  54. He Hate Me says: Mar 4, 2010 4:14 PM

    McNabb has not taken us to ten playoffs and five NFC title games. He was injured many of those years, including the Super Bowl year, when he came back in the post season after Jay Feely took us to the playoffs. I wish the rest of the world would see the real picture and stop saying he is under appreciated, when in reality the rest of the country has over valued hum, including his fat ass coach.

  55. tombrookshire says: Mar 4, 2010 4:19 PM

    I wish everyone would stop talking about how the Eagles can get to the championship game. When have the Eagles shown any inclination toward reaching another SB? Every year, Reid says that some aspect of the team is “not important” to the overall team scheme. For years it was receivers. Still, linebackers, running backs, safeties, special teams. All not importtant. In my view, they are all important to winning a championship game. Why do I say this? Lets look at the Bucs. Dungy built a solid team. They won each year, had a good record, played well. But he was fired in favor of a guy who could get them over the hump. The Eagles have been stagnating at that hump for 8 of the last 11 years of Reid’s tenure. If winning a Super Bowl or even going deep into the playoffs was important to these guys, Reid would have been moved on in favor of someone who CAN win it all. However, Reid has made the Eagles enormously profitable by keeping it close and the fans hopeful enough to keep coming back and spending their money. BTW, loved the comment about fatso Reid, as “father of the year.”

  56. slipkid says: Mar 4, 2010 4:20 PM

    vick blows. young sure has won more games than vick. do the math and look it up.
    montana was 2-14 and 6-10 the first 2 years as a team was being built.
    mcnabb hasnt had to go thru that. also, montana didnt barf in the big one.

  57. Sasquash says: Mar 4, 2010 4:26 PM

    First off any Eagles success can’t be placed on any one player. There defense along with McNabb, Staley, and Westbrook all were the leading factors to there playoff runs. You can’t just say McNabb or whoever. There defense in my opion has to be at the top of that list though. As far as Reid’s offense making McNabb, that has to be the single dumbest thing ever typed into a computer. Reid’s offense has only hurt McNabb and the defense. When you are not balanced you are more predictable, leading to more 3 and outs that tire a defense. Reid has had this solid run on the backs of a weak NFC. As for McNabb either lock him up or move him. If you don’t lock him up he leaves for nothing. If you trade him you can start Kolb and see what hes got before you have to sign him again. Its not like the Eagles have a chance in hell to win the SB this year with that defense. If you trade Kolb you better get a 1st because they gave the Cowboys there first when they traded down to get him. I love this time of year

  58. kingkolb says: Mar 4, 2010 4:31 PM

    @ scorpiodsu:
    I’m wrong? Who exactly finished the season in 2002 when mcnabb went down for the rest of the season prior to Thanksgiving? I believe we went to the playoffs on a combined 5-1 QB effort from Koy and AJ? To my earlier and correct point, Reid has won with multiple QBs over the past ten years. I’d like to see what 5 can do with another coach on another team.
    For all you people who bash Reid, keep in mind that this guys drafts like a god. I mean when you consider mcnabb, westbrook, and desean all being probowl/potential HOF players on the same team (I know someone will point out that desean has a ways to go regarding HOF, so I’ll point out the word potential) within the same decade, and then look at teams like Cleveland, San Fran, Seattle, Detroit, Chicago, Minnesota, Miami, Houston, Washington, Oakland (how the hell could I almost forget the genius that runs that team) Jets, Giants who are all lucky to have 1 player like that within that time frame. Be grateful with what you have….
    Part of wants to see Andy get fired. Because when he does and the Eagles go back to 6-10 every year, you bastards will be grateful. And I’ll tell you this, Jerry Jones would fire his whole staff to give Andy control.

  59. Dr. Michael says: Mar 4, 2010 4:35 PM

    Tombrokshire-Thank you…Father of the Year Andy Reid will be back for year 12 of Groundhog Day with Donavan McLoser, Ron Mexico banner, and the Great Enabler Jeffrey Lurie….they go out of their way to sign a dog killer yet cut two long time Eagle greats-Dawkins and Westbrook. Dawkins goes to the pro bowl and they arrogantly give Dog Killer Vick the Ed Block profile in courage award. Im 44 years old, a former life long Philadelphia Eagles fan from phialdelphia and now they sicken me. I will use your
    “stagnating at the hump” as well..lol.

  60. Sasquash says: Mar 4, 2010 4:38 PM

    Forgot to mention McNabb/Kolb can’t even hold the Jocks of Montana and Young. I think the author was compairing the situation in Montana/Young went through to what McNabb/Kolb look to be heading into and not actually compairing the players. I think thats what the case was atleast

  61. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 4, 2010 5:16 PM

    “And with a Montana-Young dilemma gradually coming into focus, given the presence of Kevin Kolb on the depth chart”
    Montana-Young? How about White-Hogeboom?

  62. Kevin from Philly says: Mar 4, 2010 5:21 PM

    Peoples Champ says:
    “Just idiotic. Much like your screen name…”
    You take your screen name from Freddie Mitchell and you have the nerve to call someone else’s idiotic?

  63. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 4, 2010 5:23 PM

    “Just a Roy Williams type of trade. The difference being, y’know, that the team that gets McNabb will be getting a productive player for their draft picks.”
    Hm?
    Roy Williams = 7 TDs
    Maclin + Brown + Avant + Curtis = 7 TDs
    20-16
    24-0
    34-14

  64. phillyeagleschamps says: Mar 4, 2010 6:02 PM

    Vick has better numbers than Young.

  65. Sasquash says: Mar 4, 2010 6:26 PM

    @kingkolb
    Reid drafts like a god? I will admitt hes not a bad drafter, but he isn’t god-like either. Winston Justice over Marcus McNeil? Please how many probowls for McNeil now? Barry Gardner, Freddie Mitchell over R.Wayne???, and a BUNCH of 2nd and 3rd round bust picks. Off top of my head Q.Caver, T.Laws, V.Abwhatever his name is, Shaun Andrews over Wince Wilfork(I think if memory is correct, I know the 2 were close) J.McDougal 1st rd trade up there,
    B.Smith(3rd rd guy who I’m not even sure if he ever suited up), There are more I’m just too burnt out to remember. Trades with Dallas so they can move up a few years ago and last season traded with the Giants so they could move up in the 3rd. Who trades with there hated rivals? On second thought I hate Andy Reid more then I already did thanks KINGKOLB YOU WORMBURNER

  66. Perception=Reality says: Mar 4, 2010 6:55 PM

    Quarterbacks get too much credit when they win and too much blame when they lose. I’ve never understood why. I understand Eagles fans’ call for a change but to bash the man after all he has done?!? He’s played without a legitimate wideout threat for most of his career and has still performed at a top 10 qb level. The calls for Kolb are a little premature. Sure, he had 2 great games in McNabb’s abscence but part of that was because teams had no pro game film on him so they were unable to gameplan against him. A better measurement of Kolb’s readiness would be a full season, and even then that does not guarantee success (see Matt Cassell). Be grateful for what you do have (a proven top 10 qb) and be careful what you ask for….you might end up missing #5.

  67. primetimemagik says: Mar 4, 2010 7:12 PM

    First off, ITALIAN LEPRECHAUN, you’re an idiot. You’re just basically contradicted yourself in your whole long, boring spiel ( I guess you just learned “sarcasm” and was trying to impress…)… you brought up all the Eagle’s dealings with elder Eagles in the past decade, and then talk about how bad the Eagles management is?! Trotter left, then came back for less money after a HORRIBLE year with the Redskins. Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent left, then were never heard from again in the NFL. Lito Sheppard wanted more money, Eagles didn’t pay, and he got his $10 million from the Jets, now he’s looking for another job after being released from the Jets (bet they regret that contract). Which one of those decisions were bad for the Eagles… seems like each one was spot on… the Eagles kept them for long enough, then let them go when their talent wasn’t worth the money anymore and at the right time.
    Also, all this McNabb choking talk is assinine… Who was McNabb (who threw 3 TDs that game) covering when Larry Fitzgerald ran seamlessly down the field to catch 9 receptions for 152 yards and 3 TDs?? Maybe he covered Deion Branch when he had 11 receptions for 133 yards in the Super Bowl (oh yeah, McNabb threw 3 TDs that game too). Or maybe it was McNabb’s fault that the defense gave up 29 points against St. Louis in the 2002 NFC Championship game (I’m sure the 24 points scored by the Eagles offense could’ve been done by your grandmother playing QB, but that’s besides the point…). Regardless, the Eagles, as an entire TEAM, did not show up in the major losses in the past 10 years. The defense, typically playing good at the time, would fail miserably, recievers would drop passes, and yes, McNabb would have a few plays that he would like back too, but overall, not one of those losses were ever McNabb’s fault… not even a little bit! So get facts straight before trying to post something intellectual!

  68. FMWarner says: Mar 4, 2010 8:13 PM

    tombrookshire says: March 4, 2010 4:19 PM
    I wish everyone would stop talking about how the Eagles can get to the championship game. When have the Eagles shown any inclination toward reaching another SB? Every year, Reid says that some aspect of the team is “not important” to the overall team scheme. For years it was receivers. Still, linebackers, running backs, safeties, special teams. All not importtant. In my view, they are all important to winning a championship game. Why do I say this? Lets look at the Bucs. Dungy built a solid team. They won each year, had a good record, played well. But he was fired in favor of a guy who could get them over the hump. The Eagles have been stagnating at that hump for 8 of the last 11 years of Reid’s tenure. If winning a Super Bowl or even going deep into the playoffs was important to these guys, Reid would have been moved on in favor of someone who CAN win it all. However, Reid has made the Eagles enormously profitable by keeping it close and the fans hopeful enough to keep coming back and spending their money. BTW, loved the comment about fatso Reid, as “father of the year.”

    I’m sorry to just post tombrookshier’s comment to stand in for a lot of people, but I’m tired of people saying the Eagles don’t care about winning. Just because they don’t do things the way you would do them doesn’t mean they’re not trying. I’d say making the playoffs 8 of 10 years and 5 NFC Championship games proves they’re trying pretty damn hard.
    Only one team wins the Super Bowl every year. Being the 2nd or 3rd or 4th best team doesn’t mean you are doing the wrong thing and you start over. It means you’re close, and you keep trying. No, they haven’t won a Super Bowl yet. But they keep sniffing at it, and I’d rather keep going with the people that get me close than to blow it all up and start over with no guarantee that the team would have any success at all. I swear, some people must forget what it’s like to have Rich Kotite as your coach or Ty Detmer as your starting QB.

  69. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 4, 2010 8:14 PM

    “Winston Justice over Marcus McNeil? Please how many probowls for McNeil now? Barry Gardner, Freddie Mitchell over R.Wayne???”
    LJ Smith over Jason Witten. Shawn Andrews over Chris Snee. Ryan Moats over Marion Barber. Jason Avant over Brandon Marshall and Miles Austin. Quintin Demps and Jack Ikegwuonu over Orlando Scandrick. Mike Patterson over Jay Ratliff.

  70. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 4, 2010 8:16 PM

    “Jerry Jones would fire his whole staff to give Andy control.”
    Bwahaha. Andy Reid can’t even run his family efficiently, nor can he manage a game efficiently. Dream on.

  71. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 4, 2010 8:28 PM

    “For all you people who bash Reid, keep in mind that this guys drafts like a god. I mean when you consider mcnabb, westbrook, and desean all being probowl/potential HOF players on the same team (I know someone will point out that desean has a ways to go regarding HOF, so I’ll point out the word potential) within the same decade”
    Wow you must think that Jerry Jones is an uber-God. Ware, Ratliff, Witten, Austin, Newman, Romo, Jenkins, Gurode, all Pro Bowlers, all with the exception of Jenkins and Austin have been to multiple Pro Bowls.

  72. eaglelover1 says: Mar 4, 2010 8:54 PM

    Amen Primetimemagik, Never in the history of football has a QB done more with less. Every WR that has played with Mcnabb once released from the Eagles has never been heard of again (T.O. the only exception). Peyton Manning had Had a WR that is at least 2nd ballot HOF. We won’t even mention Kurt Warner and his success years. Favre won SB with HOF calibre WR even though it was a never was that won the SB for the Packers that year. Eli Manning, though Burress is sure to NOT make the HOF trust me when I say he will NEVER have another season or game like he had that SB winning year.
    Tom Brady. Tom has 3 SB wins though his first should have been Bledsoes’s. When he went down in 08 a QB that had not started a game since HIGH SCHOOL led the Patriots to an 11-5 record. Tom comes back and improves the team record by ONE GAME. Can you say system is working?
    The only reason Garcia and Feeley had success under Reid is that the WHOLE GAME PLAN CHANGED for them. Instead of throwing 40-50 times a game they were asked to throw the 20-25 times a game and the running game took over. Again something Mcnabb has not had his entire career. Amen

  73. Peoples Champ says: Mar 4, 2010 9:03 PM

    @ Kevin from Philly
    Freddie Mitchell??? LOL The same guy who got his name from….wait for it…….THE ROCK. Does that ring a bell, tool?
    His screen name is idiotic for this reason:
    The 0-3girls are champs of what? What have they won? NOTHING. Therefore, “philly eagles” and “champs” should not be used in the same sentence. PERIOD. It’s just very silly

  74. Mooch says: Mar 4, 2010 9:07 PM

    Jerry Jones would fire the staff to give Andy control?
    So, Jerry would fire himself?
    Reid’s drafts are feast and famine. Some notable finds, but some real miserable misses. And I am not sure I ever saw another coach cut so many draft picks in training camp as Andy does. That is unforgiveable.

  75. eaglelover1 says: Mar 4, 2010 9:13 PM

    @ Voxveratis Scandrick gets burned like toast on a fire. Where is Jay Ratliff again? Miles Austin has had one HALF of a season where he has played good. And Barber won’t even be in a Cowboy uniform come August. Justice is now the Starting RT.
    26-10 that’s what those 3 scores average out to still doesn’t equal 44-6.
    Jackson 10TD-Austin 11TD
    Maclin4TD-Williams7TD
    Avant3TD-Crayton 5TD
    Celek8TD-Witten2TD
    That’s the same # of TD’s DO THE MATH!

  76. Perception=Reality says: Mar 4, 2010 9:29 PM

    .VoxVeritas says:
    March 4, 2010 8:14 PM
    “Winston Justice over Marcus McNeil? Please how many probowls for McNeil now? Barry Gardner, Freddie Mitchell over R.Wayne???”
    LJ Smith over Jason Witten. Shawn Andrews over Chris Snee. Ryan Moats over Marion Barber. Jason Avant over Brandon Marshall and Miles Austin. Quintin Demps and Jack Ikegwuonu over Orlando Scandrick. Mike Patterson over Jay Ratliff.
    You can say this about every draft for every team. If teams knew ahead of time how players were going turn out, you think they’d draft a little differently? The draft is a crapshoot. 1st rounders can bust just like 7th rounders can become stars…

  77. Mooch says: Mar 4, 2010 10:03 PM

    Eaglelover – not sure I understand.
    You say no QB achieved more with less than McNabb. Then you cite an example in Tom Brady.
    Because those weapons blew. David Givens, Deoin Branch, and Troy Brown (who I recall was also playing CB at the time). A very forgettable bunch, who never did anything after they left NE.

  78. slick12 says: Mar 4, 2010 10:26 PM

    you are spot on, Jetstastic . Those have always been my thoughts exactly. the Eagles WCO is a quarterback friendly offense. It’s not necessary to have a super strong arm as McNabb supporters are prone to brag about. In fact, his super strong arm is indeed, a detriment to his accuracy and what makes Reid rely on 80% passing plays. But even the strong get tired eventually and that further deteriorates his accuracy as the game goes on. Kolb’s strength is in his smart decision making, footwork inside the pocket as he maneuvers around behind his blockers to find the open passing lanes instead of trying to loft them like McNabb and suffering innumerable blocked balls instead. he will only get better with more time behind center and becomes more familiar with defensive formations and alignments and audibles to the correct plays to defeat the pass rush and avoid sacks while completing passes. Now’s the time. We’re overdue for a change behind center.

  79. eagles says: Mar 4, 2010 10:31 PM

    scorpiodsu you might wanna check your facts the eagles also made the postseason with aj feeley when mcnabb and dentmer went down and he got them to the play offs and guess what happened they brought mcnabb back for the playoffs and he lost. shocker mcnabb lost a big game.

  80. Opie says: Mar 4, 2010 11:40 PM

    @ Cornflorio says: “And with a Montana-Young dilemma gradually coming into focus, given the presence of Kevin Kolb on the depth chart, the Eagles at some point need to choose between the two.” ————-
    I give you credit, sir, you may have found the proper combination to make the witches cauldron boil! This posting, “almost” admits that your previous postings on the subject were pure conjecture if not out right false, BUT you redeemed yourself by putting the angry bees in almost everyone’s taint! Well done indeed, color me impressed!
    @ FMWarner & primetimejagic: no worries, fellas, what you find is a bunch of cellar dwellers that are as useless as tits on a boar hog pontificating about shit they can’t back up with any factual significance.
    @ Mooch: dude, relax. 8 out of 10 playoff years is a good thing. As for Buddy’s 8-8 years being entertaining vs. a 12-4 Andy Reid year……….I’m waiting for you to take a moment. You know that’s silly!!!
    @ .VoxVeritas: convenient to only name a handful of players. You, sir, are still a duche.
    Overall nothing article that admits (almost) that Lord Cornflorio has been slinging more poo than a monkey @ the zoo and his “sources” continue to be the same “sources” that we all can get from reading similar websites.
    Come on, Florio, get back to being original…..or won’t the powers that be allow that?!? Now, go cash that paycheck and take the family out for a nice meal!!!

  81. tighthead says: Mar 5, 2010 7:04 AM

    The best chance for the eagles to win now is to start Mcnabb. The best thing for the future is to start Kolb and the WORST thing for the present and future is to keep that bum Vick on the roster at all. I can’t believe some moron fans think that Vick is a better option than Mcnabb or Kolb.

  82. dave519 says: Mar 5, 2010 9:45 AM

    how can anyone put mcnabb in the same category as Montana and Young are you serious? they could at least direct a scoring drive when they needed to, this guy everyone loves to talk about his PAST since 2004 what has this guy done so special? If someone offers a 2nd round pick and a player you do it without blinking.

  83. eaglelover1 says: Mar 5, 2010 3:17 PM

    @ Mooch
    That was meant to say ANY QB can win in the Belicheat system. You say Branch, Brown and Givens didn’t amount to much after leaving NE? They all were signed as FA to leave NE. Pinkston never picked up, Mitchell picked up and dropped off by Chiefs who had NO WR’s. Torrence Smalls… I know… WHO? See the difference.

  84. Mooch says: Mar 5, 2010 4:45 PM

    I would hardly say that cast was that much better than what McNabb had in the grand scheme. Given Belicheck’s coaching fraternity, their ball boy would get picked up if the Pats cut him loose.
    As for enjoying Buddy’s 8-8 years. The team had more personality and excitement. It just did. The Body Bag Game. The House of Pain. The late TD to stick it to Tom Landry.
    There was also more access to the team. Did anyone else go to minicamps at the field next to the vet? I remember standing there and having Seth Joyner and Jerome Brown running around us throwing helmets full of water on one another. A great memory. Now, I feel little connection.
    Granted, I was younger then…and less jaded. But each week was an adventure with Buddy. And the players were lovable badasses. This team, sadly predictable and vanilla.
    I look at Rex Ryan, and there are shades of Buddy. That was fun, man.

  85. Mooch says: Mar 5, 2010 4:58 PM

    Oh, and when the fan base clamored for better WR’s every year, we were told by Reid that they were good enough.
    ANd McNabb say there and nodded his head in agreement.
    So, while you and I think they stunk, McNabb and Reid thought they were great.
    And those two would know better than us, right?

  86. Perception=Reality says: Mar 5, 2010 5:40 PM

    Mooch says:
    March 5, 2010 4:58 PM
    Oh, and when the fan base clamored for better WR’s every year, we were told by Reid that they were good enough.
    ANd McNabb say there and nodded his head in agreement.
    So, while you and I think they stunk, McNabb and Reid thought they were great.
    So you would have rather McNabb act TO’ish and throw his teammates under the bus? Of course he’s going to say that while he’s under contract. I wonder what you’d be saying about the man if he went public with his desire for better receivers. #5 is better off leaving Philly, only then will he truly be appreciated.

  87. Mooch says: Mar 5, 2010 7:36 PM

    Oh, Perception…you walk right into the bear trap and lose your foot.
    If Reid and McNabb are so tight, and McNabb is a “leader”, and “the franchise QB” and this is “his team” (all his words, he reminds us every day)…then why can’t he have a frank discussion with management and coach behind the scenes? Why not be honest about what you need?
    I am not talking about getting the media involved. I am not talking about calling guys out in public, although the alligator body incident could have used some of that (not that McNabb talks to his teammates – or even looks at film – on the sideline of games).
    He was the company man and did none of that. He abdicated his role as team leader.
    As for “TO’ish” conduct – McNabb HAS gone there.
    He DID throw Jackson and Maclin under the bus after he came up small for the 2nd of 3 tries against the Cowboys.
    He DID blame the defense because they let up the lead against the Cardinals in yet another NFC title game we lost (despite that fact that JJ’s defenses carried him for the better part of a decade). Ignore the fact that he had the ball with the game on the line and threw hide and wide. And, as always, came up short. Let’s ignore his crying about the officials, a classic loser’s lament.
    So, you don’t need to wonder what I’d have said. Look at my posts. I said McNabb was a coward, excuse-maker, and buck passer who came up small in yet another big game and then blamed it on “our youth”.
    Again, the myth of McNabb as you’d like him to be vs. the reality of McNabb that he shows us time and time again. He is what he is. Deeds speak louder than words. But you pity him because 30 people booed him on draft day.
    Always an excuse. Always directed in a passive-aggresive manner at younger teammates.
    How ironic that you post under that name given your thoughts on this subject.

  88. MFD53 says: Mar 6, 2010 1:29 AM

    It will be another long dismal season for the Eagles. Bite the bullet Reid. Cut McNabb.

  89. MyronB says: Mar 6, 2010 8:44 PM

    VoxVeritas: Almost all of the good draft picks the Cowboys have had the past decade come courtesy of draft wizard Bill Parcells.
    Unfortunately for the Cowboys, The Tuna left that team several years ago, and all they have left are some of those Parcells draft gems like Jay Ratliff, DeMarcus Ware, and Terrence Newman.
    With Jerry and Wade picking the players now and doing stupid things like throwing away first round picks on subpar WRs, I doubt the Cowboys ever have as much success picking players as they did in the Parcells era.
    If you don’t believe me, compare the drafting done during the Parcells years to the ones made after he left.

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