Comments on: Teams should gladly give up first-round picks for proven wideouts

By: rea725

rea725 — Tue, 11 May 2010 08:50:11 +0000

Bowe? He’s pretty much a stud. He’s on your wash-out list? Why not Braylon instead?

By: rraider

rraider — Mon, 10 May 2010 21:20:37 +0000

@DcNinerFan- you are correct on most fronts. there is no need to even respond to this articule. i am not debating the point of the articule but the examples used are somewhat bogus. you could use histrocical drafts from ’80-’95 and probaly get a more realistic view.

By: raiderdutch

raiderdutch — Mon, 10 May 2010 20:25:12 +0000

Yes, teams overvalue picks. Though it’s been widely panned, the Richard Seymour has so far helped the Raiders and hurt the Patriots.

By: oldlefthander

oldlefthander — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:48:41 +0000

He’s not listing just top 10 picks, because Meachem was drafted 27th.
I don’t want to defend Meachem too much, but it’s poor analysis to claim he was of no worth in the playoffs. The Saints system relies on the fact that they have way too many weapons for you to defend all of them. If you start taking those weapons out of the picture, it’s easier to defend the offense as a whole.
To the degree that Meachem required defensive attention (and to the degree, as someone pointed out above, that he contributed to them having home field advantage in the playoffs) he was important to their Super Bowl championship.

By: cheeseweasel

cheeseweasel — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:49:27 +0000

Another example of the genious that is the Vikings front office.

By: Big Ed 1935

Big Ed 1935 — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:27:39 +0000

It is not just the draft pick and contract-
Marshall has some big personal issues that could
surface any time.

By: stevemcguigan

stevemcguigan — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:12:57 +0000

re: Hutch and Burleson
Let’s be honest, was Minny really that concerned about letting Burleson walk?

By: KingJoe!

KingJoe! — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:56:16 +0000

This logic never seems to translate into real action with NFL team management. Right now teams are balking at giving the Eagles a 3rd round pick for Vick. How often does a 3rd round pick produces a quality NFL starter.
A team like Carolina that has a good defense, a good set WR and a great running game should not hesitate to bring in a player like Vick for a 3rd round pick. Vick has a better shot at getting the Panthers to the playoffs than Moore.
One last note, DB, LB TE C and Gaurds are the least likely positions to be a bust in the first round

By: riddikeyes

riddikeyes — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:51:47 +0000

Jay Cutler. Terrell Owens. Javon Kearse. Lavaraneus Coles. Nate Clements. Roy Williams. … Free agents and trades can bust too.

By: zoinks

zoinks — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:22:46 +0000

Seems to me that trading a high pick for a “proven” receiver is almost as risky as drafting an unproven college player. Time and time again, we’ve seen wideouts find success with one team….but when placed in a different system with a different coaching staff and different QB, they struggled.
How has the Roy Williams deal worked out for Dallas? How about Deion Branch in Seattle? Braylon Edwards didn’t exactly set the world on fire as a Jet.
Randy Moss was a disaster in Oakland; Peerless Price flopped miserably in Atlanta. The list goes on.
The fact is, WR is one of the riskier acquisitions a team can make…and it’s not like any one method is significantly more successful than another. Trade, draft, free agency…..any one of them is liable to blow up in a team’s face.

By: Opie

Opie — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:05:41 +0000

@ asween40: you hit the nail. guess it depends on how close you are to being competitive and/or a playoff run.
@ .vox: I don’t believe, based on some of your other blather, that you actually have sources. To actually site and use sources would suppose that you like to base your statements on facts & not your feelings….
As for Tracey Austin, she’s not worth a 1st & 3rd. One good year does not mean she will be a dominant player for the next 5 years.
She’s a one hit wonder, kinda like the group “Bow Wow!”

By: Ca_Viking

Ca_Viking — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:58:41 +0000

In three years of PFT, this is the most insiteful comments. It took Troy Williamson for me to learn this. The replacement for Randy Moss started his carreer by dropping the pen he signed his contract with and then dropped everything else during his tenure at Minnesota.
Drafting Sidney Rice in the 3rd round was FAR more productive.
Look at NE or Phil, draft a big lineman in the 1st round, steal a skill player in rounds 2-5.

By: wiredup

wiredup — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:48:43 +0000

hahahah darrius heyward-bey, proven… riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

By: Eric Q

Eric Q — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:20:13 +0000

If the Carolina Panthers can find a team that will accept next year’s first-round draft pick or a team that will accept that and this year’s third-round pick, they should pull the trigger on that deal.

By: gasolinej

gasolinej — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:58:35 +0000

There are good players in every round of the draft. Look at what the cowboys gave up for Roy Williams.
They could have got Percy Harvin for that, paid him far less money, and they would have had two extra picks later in the draft.
Oh, and Percy Harvin’s contract is for 8.5 million guaranteed. Roy Williams got more than that as a signing bonus.

By: Big Tex

Big Tex — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:58:17 +0000

@DcNinerFan
Regarding the Raiders’ fans and DHB, surely most of them at least secretly admit that Al had a major “senior moment” during last year’s draft. While Crabtree didn’t exactly set the NFL on fire, he did finish 4th in the league for receptions by a rookie and had the highest yards per game figure. Additionally, no one is ever going to mistake Alex Smith for Joe Montana.
DHB on the other hand did absolutely nothing to silence the draft critics who questioned his hands, his route running skills, his blocking, or his willingness to go over the middle. I’m not sure about injuries other than to all the footballs that clanged off those frying pans that he claims are his hands. The injury report seemed to be a way to save face and get him the hell off the field. In 11 starts, Bey was able to amass 9 receptions for 124 yards. Tied for 27th among rookies and only had one game with multiple receptions (a whopping 2).
You might not be willing to call Bey a bust just yet, but I call him DHB (DamnHugeBust).

By: CoolC

CoolC — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:52:19 +0000

can you please take off Bowe and Meachum….

By: JSpicoli

JSpicoli — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:39:32 +0000

You can’t call a guy a bust after one season.
Bowe and Meachum are nowhere near this list and shouldn’t be there either.

By: JJMADDOG

JJMADDOG — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:30:57 +0000

You forgot to include Braylon Edwards

By: MSWRavens

MSWRavens — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:28:47 +0000

To the dipwad who said the Ravens will lose Boldin after this year, they’ve already given him a new 4 year deal. NEXT!
To the dipwad who said the Colts will take Jared Gaither from the Ravens – first, that would be fine by me…turn a 5th rd supplemental draft pick into a 1st round pick…and move Michael Oher to the Blind Side…but you’re a dipwad because the Colts can’t sign any free agents under the final eight plan. NEXT!

By: 65TossPowerTrap

65TossPowerTrap — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:19:55 +0000

So aside from Miles Austin, you have Brandon Marshall, a malcontent with maturity issues, and Vincent “One more for the road, bartender!” Jackson? One outta three aint’ bad, huh?

By: lovemonkey84

lovemonkey84 — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:11:09 +0000

Bowe and Meachem do not belong on this list.

By: steelerfan9598

steelerfan9598 — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:10:38 +0000

You forgot Troy Edwards. That one still hurts.

By: AndyReidIsABadCoach

AndyReidIsABadCoach — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 07:07:54 +0000

So I signed up because all you people ready to jump on Florio for writing a terrible article regarding busts is annoying. Florio has written some blunders, but this is not one of them.
He is simply listing First Round WR picks from the last several years, not busts. His point is that if you scour the list, the majority of them are busts or mediocre players in order to prove his point that the %’s play out for a team to trade for a proven WR vs. drafting an unknown.
I guess that people with an inferiority complex in real life compensating by putting someone more successful than them down on this board without reasoning is good therapy.

By: Cabble

Cabble — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:19:45 +0000

This is something i’ve questioned since i started following this sport about 4 years ago, why aren’t there more trades? i know draft picks are a commodity, but why risk a vernon gholston? if the players are worth it, make the trade, i know the salary cap constrains “blockbuster” trades but rookie salary’s are ridiculously high anyways

By: JaggedMark

JaggedMark — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:50:34 +0000

in an uncapped year, no less.

By: Jon

Jon — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:46:40 +0000

Saying DHB never lived up to his potential after one season with an incompetent QB is just an example of you looking to fill the list.
I’m not saying he’s not going to be a bust but one season and the word never don’t work in conjunction.

By: patpatriotagain

patpatriotagain — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:39:00 +0000

722 yards for a 16.1 yard average and 9 touchdowns = bust? not on a team with that many weapons. other people do have to get the ball.

By: Skeety

Skeety — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:56:57 +0000

Percy Harvin

By: tombrokaw

tombrokaw — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:48:38 +0000

1. You can potentially get more years from the player, and some of those years in his prime.
2. You will pay less, unless we are talking about a top 5 pick. And we wouldn’t be in an RFA discussion.
3. While there is potential for the drafted player to be a bust, there is also potential for the drafted player to be better than whatever rfa is in question.
Really mike florio, there’s a reason most nfl gm’s covet draft picks more than RFA’s and the reason isn’t that you know football better than them. It’s actually… the opposite.