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Jerry Jones wades into "poison pill" minefield

J.Jones.jpgAs concerns of collusion claims by the NFLPA hover over the still-fledgling free-agency period, there’s a 600-pound elephant in the room.  Which actually is sort of svelte for an elephant.

The poison pill.

Four years ago, the Vikings concocted a fairly simple procedure for crafting an offer sheet that, as a practical matter, couldn’t be matched based on factors that would make the full value of the deal guaranteed in his current city.  The league fought the process, the union supported the device as a tool for promoting the ability of players to move from team to team, and the labor deal ultimately was interpreted as permitting the poison-pill process.

In the end, guard Steve Hutchinson left Seattle and headed to Minnesota.

The Seahawks responded by doing the same thing to the Vikings, securing receiver Nate Burleson, a restricted free agent at the time, with an offer sheet that the Vikings could not match.

When the 32 teams convened at league meetings later that same month, the Vikings were met with animosity.  Then, the NFL tried to write the poison-pill process out of the CBA.  But a deal could not be reached.

Through the passage of time, many (including some media members) have assumed that the poison-pill is no longer a viable tool for use in offer sheets.  The truth is that it remains on the books, and that the union is likely poised to pitch a fit if it’s not used in any offer sheets signed by 2010 restricted free agents.

Teams vulnerable to a poison-pill attack include the Cowboys, who have tendered restricted free agent receiver Miles Austin at the highest possible level, requiring compensation in the amount of a first-round pick and a third-round pick if Dallas opts not to match.  And owner Jerry Jones apparently is nervous about the possibility that someone will make Miles Austin an offer that the Cowboys can’t match.

“That’s always a concern and that’s one of the things that needs to
be addressed
in the new collective bargaining agreement,” Jones said Tuesday, per Todd Archer of the Dallas Morning News.  “Those are called unintended consequences there.  What turns into trying
to be competitive among clubs and what turns into trying to be fair for
a player turns into being a disadvantage for the clubs.”

Here’s the problem, as we see it.  By acknowledging the ongoing viability of the poison pill, Jones has now made it even harder for teams not to use it.  The players won this battle four years ago, the owners failed to offer a sufficient concession at the time to make it go away, and no team has used it since then in signing players to offer sheets.

We’re surprised that the union hasn’t made an issue out of the situation in 2007, 2008, or 2009.  We’ll be shocked if the union looks the other way if teams fail to use the poison pill in any offer sheets presented to restricted free agents in 2010.

Then again, the hidden genius of Jones’ remarks could be that he possibly has foreclosed teams from choosing to sign any restricted free agents to offer sheets, since his comments arguably now compel use of the poison pill.  Though the union can still cry collusion if no RFAs are pursued, it will be very easy for teams to argue that they prefer not to sacrifice draft picks in what many regard as the deepest pool of incoming talent in years.

In the end, Jones won’t have to worry about losing Austin — or about being forced to sign him to a long-term deal.

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  1. Tony Dent says: Mar 9, 2010 9:55 PM

    uhhhh…..what?

  2. schooney says: Mar 9, 2010 9:55 PM

    He needs to wade into a new leather kisser

  3. quadya says: Mar 9, 2010 9:57 PM

    then why did i just read this effing article florio!

  4. last starfighter says: Mar 9, 2010 9:58 PM

    What a dick move by the vikings that was. So typical of a loser franchise. It’s no surprise Jerry Jones is interested.

  5. The Devil says: Mar 9, 2010 9:58 PM

    Packers signed an Arena League league Return specialist.
    This is huge breaking story as EVERYONE wants to play in Green Bay

  6. Hooby says: Mar 9, 2010 10:01 PM

    put money on it: as soon as jerry wants an RFA, hes gonna throw his bank account at him. hes just worried hes gonna lose the one thing keeping his stagnant offense alive, so hes fighting the means of losing him.

  7. Ryan_Mack says: Mar 9, 2010 10:02 PM

    God I hope someone, anyone, sign’s Austin other than the Cowboys. I would love to see Roy Williams be their #1 guy.
    Right Vox?

  8. drumbug71 says: Mar 9, 2010 10:02 PM

    I dont understand why the union would like a poison pill contract. It seems to me like there is enough player movement, and the poison pill contract just makes a mockery of the restricted free agent process.
    Meanwhile, why dont the Cowboys just hurry up and sign Austin to a contract? Get him off the market since he’s likely their true number 1 WR?

  9. pcpsports.com says: Mar 9, 2010 10:02 PM

    Couldn’t the owners contend that the reason they are not using the poison pill is for fear of retaliation that other teams may use it on them in retaliation and reference the Seattle signing of Burleson as evidence of the possibility?

  10. lebowski says: Mar 9, 2010 10:05 PM

    No other team has used it because they all have more class than the Vikings.

  11. polishkingski says: Mar 9, 2010 10:11 PM

    being polish i do not or have ever pretended to know what that phrase means. can somebody please explain what a poison pill deal is? thank you. ps-pam oliver is beautiful. ps2-please don`t stop my post because she works for fox. thats why you guys stop the other ones i write about her, right?

  12. habibfromnewdehli says: Mar 9, 2010 10:11 PM

    HA! You mean nobody will give up a 1st round pick for Brandon Marshall, but they will give up 1st and 3rd round picks for Miles Austin?
    HA HA HA HA HA.

  13. Bill In DC says: Mar 9, 2010 10:30 PM

    Looking for more hits are we? Anything Jerry Jones related is guaranteed to get more hits than any other news article, so, whenever you need some hits, just post an article, ANY article, about the Cowboys and the haters will respond in pavlovian fashion.

  14. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 9, 2010 10:30 PM

    “Here’s the problem, as we see it. By acknowledging the ongoing viability of the poison pill, Jones has now made it even harder for teams not to use it.”
    That statement is absolutely devoid of any semblance of logic.
    “Right Vox?”
    Dude I’ve never seen your name on here before. Either you’re new to PFT, or entirely irrelevant. How about you build up your chops a bit before you further immortalize my name?
    “Couldn’t the owners contend that the reason they are not using the poison pill is for fear of retaliation that other teams may use it on them in retaliation and reference the Seattle signing of Burleson as evidence of the possibility?”
    That’s exactly why you’ll never see another poison pill. The first go-round created animosity between owners, and these guys are supposed to be working together to further the NFL’s collective agenda. And no, it’s not collusion.

  15. sniperhare says: Mar 9, 2010 10:30 PM

    it’s not ps2, it’s pps.

  16. bh103 says: Mar 9, 2010 10:35 PM

    Austin isn’t worth a 1rst & 3rd. Not many players are.

  17. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 9, 2010 10:35 PM

    “hes just worried hes gonna lose the one thing keeping his stagnant offense alive”
    Hey, that’s “stagnant number two offense in the NFL” to you. 0-3gle fan.

  18. gopher says: Mar 9, 2010 10:38 PM

    lebowski, you should take time to read the full post since the Vikings used it, the Seahawks used it the next year, so don’t forget to mention what a lack of class they have.

  19. Obeah says: Mar 9, 2010 10:40 PM

    Jerry Jones is a self made man. The born rich hate him because he earned his money, and the working class envy his success.

  20. chipwade says: Mar 9, 2010 10:41 PM

    “the Minnesota Vikings offered Steve Hutchinson, an offensive guard with the Seattle Seahawks, a seven-year, $49 million contract of which $16 million was guaranteed. This contract offer had two poison pills in it. One was the salary structure, which would require the team to pay $13 million in the first year of the contract. That salary structure would apply to both teams equally, as the Seahawks would also have to pay $13 million in the first contract year, were they to match the offer. The second was a clause that required Hutchinson to be the highest paid player on the offensive line, or else the entire contract would be guaranteed. Since the Seahawks had another offensive lineman, Walter Jones, with a higher salary and the Vikings did not, this clause would have required the Seahawks to guarantee $49 million, and it effectively eliminated the Seahawks’ opportunity to match the contract offer.”
    …Looking back on it. Seattle would have been pretty well off just matching the offer :/

  21. MyronB says: Mar 9, 2010 10:48 PM

    God I would love to see someone create a poison pill contract for Miles Austin and steal him away from the Cowboys.
    Would be so funny.

  22. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 9, 2010 10:48 PM

    “HA! You mean nobody will give up a 1st round pick for Brandon Marshall, but they will give up 1st and 3rd round picks for Miles Austin?”
    Well no it’s not JUST the picks. He doesn’t have a contract so any team that might want him would also have to come up with a fairly sweet deal to get him to leave. That’s why there’s no urgency for Jones to get him signed long-term. And if you look at the incentives he has to stay, not the least of which is the fact that there’s no state income tax in Texas. As far as that goes, only four states that have NFL teams have no state income tax. Texas, Florida, and Washington. Tennessee has no income tax per se but it’s a tenuous situation that could change at any time.

  23. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 9, 2010 10:51 PM

    “lebowski, you should take time to read the full post since the Vikings used it, the Seahawks used it the next year, so don’t forget to mention what a lack of class they have.”
    They used it on the Vikings, in retaliation. It is not classless to use the enemy’s tactics against them.

  24. Cybot says: Mar 9, 2010 10:55 PM

    Lets not forget that when the Packers traded Favre to the Jets they also poison pilled that contract so that he couldn’t become a Viking. Let’s not pin this on the Vikings. In all honesty it is brilliant on the Vikings part to do this. The 49ers used to find loopholes in the salary cap for years. They weren’t a loser franchise. So lets not be so naive to think that the Vikings are the only club to circumvent the rules to their favor. It is something that is constantly going on to use for a competitive advantage. That is just the capitalist world we live in today. So live it love it and learn it. You don’t deserve the moniker of Lebowski since he had more brains and class than you do. Which isn’t saying much.

  25. FumbleNuts says: Mar 9, 2010 10:58 PM

    “Jerry Jones apparently is nervous about the possibility that someone will make Miles Austin an offer that the Cowboys can’t match.”
    Dan Snyder anyone?

  26. CanadianVikingFan says: Mar 9, 2010 10:59 PM

    Well we all know who was the better steal was between the two teams..

  27. Obeah says: Mar 9, 2010 11:01 PM

    Bill in DC
    got a couple of us Cowboys fans to comment any way.

  28. Hooby says: Mar 9, 2010 11:02 PM

    vox
    i meant without austin its stagnant. granted witten is good but austin completely brought that offense to what it was this year.
    and for old times sake, whats your record in the divisional round in, say, the last 10 years

  29. Cannon says: Mar 9, 2010 11:03 PM

    Jerry Jones looks like a Gremlin who got fed after midnight and got wet.

  30. InvestorGadget says: Mar 9, 2010 11:06 PM

    @polishkingski
    To understand a “poison pill” you first have to understand something about restricted free agency.
    A restricted free agent can negotiate with any team, however their original team has the right to match any offer they receive. A “poison pill” is a stipulation in an offer which makes the offer undesirable… the catch being that the stipulation applies to the original team but does not affect the offering team.
    For example, the Seahawk’s “poison pill” stipulated that the entire contract would be guaranteed (something no team would want) if Nate Burleson played more than 4 games in Minnesota. That meant that if the Vikings matched the offer they would have to guarantee the entire contract. However, the Seahawks (who obviously don’t play that often in Minnesota) would not have to match the contract.

  31. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 9, 2010 11:11 PM

    “God I would love to see someone create a poison pill contract for Miles Austin and steal him away from the Cowboys.”
    I’d love for the 0-3gles to try it and for Austin to turn them down, realizing that the 0-3gles don’t develop WRs, they ruin their once-promising careers (don’t even argue otherwise. Reggie Brown, Freddie Mitchell and Todd Pinkston know it’s true). The Cowboys on the other hand have a pretty good record of developing WRs so they’ll just bring another one along.

  32. Vito says: Mar 9, 2010 11:21 PM

    I don’t understand why someone can’t choose not to engage in a business practice that they don’t want the competitor they use it against to make it a point of using it on them whenever possible, even when not necessary. This is especially true in what could be an increased trade market because of the reduction in the number of unrestricted free agents. If a team has hopes of keeping the possibility of trades open with a team, why piss people off. I understand the collusion claim if it’s simply the owners all agreeing not to use it for their financial benefit. However, with all the movement every year of front office personnel from one team to another, I understand a GM not wanting to do something that’s going to anger people because relationships are obviously important and pissing off one team one year could lead to a good chunk of the front offices in the league having someone who dislikes you within a few years.

  33. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 9, 2010 11:23 PM

    “Lets not forget that when the Packers traded Favre to the Jets they also poison pilled that contract so that he couldn’t become a Viking.”
    Didn’t work out very well, did it?
    “Let’s not pin this on the Vikings.”
    Why not? They’re the ones that started it.
    “In all honesty it is brilliant on the Vikings part to do this.”
    Sure, because it has won them so much.
    “The 49ers used to find loopholes in the salary cap for years. They weren’t a loser franchise.”
    Well they won games but they cheated their way through the 90′s so that makes them a loser franchise.
    “So lets not be so naive to think that the Vikings are the only club to circumvent the rules to their favor.”
    Nobody’s saying that. In fact nobody’s saying that they broke or even circumvented any rules. It’s just a shitty thing to do to someone that is supposed to be your business partner. Not surprising that you’d mention the 49ers, Eddie Debartolo displayed the same lack of class toward other owners and their teams time and time again and I understand that when it was formally announced at an owners meeting that he was removed from control of the 49ers, the other owners erupted in cheers. They knew that they’d *never* let that cheating cretin back into the club and were rid of him for good.
    I suggest Zygi Wilf take note and conduct himself accordingly in the future.

  34. DieHardSkinsFan21 says: Mar 9, 2010 11:26 PM

    It would make my day if Danny Boy would fuel up RedskinsOne and fly down to Dallas, pick up Austin, Wine him, Dine him , and offer him a reasonable offer that is more than dallass wants to pay, but ups the ante because jerry and his toupe really don’t want to let him go. I would just love to see that worm in dallass squirm. I don’t actually want miles austin.

  35. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 9, 2010 11:29 PM

    “i meant without austin its stagnant.”
    Wow. Way to go out on a limb, lowbrow. Take the Pro Bowl WR out of the offense and all of a sudden they’re not so good, you say? You should win a Nobel Prize for that one.
    “and for old times sake, whats your record in the divisional round in, say, the last 10 years”
    Last 10 years? That’s not “for old times sake”. That’s called a “recent, convenient window”. Let’s put it this way. The Cowboys aren’t .500 in the playoffs. Your 0-3gles are. How are your 0-3gles in the wild card round in, say, the last two months?
    20-16
    24-0
    34-14

  36. lebowski says: Mar 9, 2010 11:40 PM

    VoxVeritas… nicely done.

  37. Satanic Hell Creature says: Mar 9, 2010 11:41 PM

    lebowski says:
    March 9, 2010 10:05 PM
    No other team has used it because they all have more class than the Vikings
    ————————————————–
    Umm…if somebody would learn NFL history before showing their idiotic hatred for a team, they might know that the Jets are basically credited with creating the idea of the poison pill in contracts. That’s how they stole Curtis Martin away from the Pats. The Saints used it against the Panthers on Chad Cota. I don’t remember the exact terms, but the Chiefs thought they had it in a contract with Steve Stenstrom. The Packers just used it in the Trade of Favre to the Jets. And, according to WSCR the Bears are considering it now to sign Atogwe away from the Rams. And those are the ones that come to mind, I’m sure there are plenty more. The only difference is that in traditional fashion, the Seahawks whined and cried non stop until the league finally told them it’s legal. And, that’s what made the Hutchensen deal famous. Also, it was Hutchensen’s agent that told the Vikings to put it in the contract, because Hutchensen wanted to make sure the Seahawks had no way of matching the contract.

  38. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 9, 2010 11:47 PM

    “I don’t actually want miles austin.”
    Miles Austin doesn’t want the Redskins, either. Come on, they’re one of the worst teams in the NFL and don’t look to be anything but that for the forseeable future. The rich midget can’t keep his stubby little fingers out of the Deadskins pie long enough. Jesus Christ, if Jerry Jones isn’t a “football guy” after 20 years and three super bowl wins, what is this sawed-off loser after 10 years and a losing record? The Cowboys just completed five straight years of winning seasons. Do you even know the last time the Deadskins accomplished that? It was before Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys.

  39. Bob Nelson says: Mar 10, 2010 12:08 AM

    The viklings screw up in so many ways they cannot be enummerated. This is only one of the embarrassments they have caused the NFL.

  40. edgy1957 says: Mar 10, 2010 12:14 AM

    Vito, owners are idiots. When the NBA was forced to have free agency, they did it with the stipulation that they get the right of first refusal. Things weren’t too bad until the Pistons gave Jon Koncak a $2+ mil offer, which is bad enough but the morons in Atlanta not only matched it but made it a 6-year $13 mil contract. That set the bar for agents and the Pistons would later regret their actions (As would the rest of the NBA). Most owners don’t think before they take action and then they end up regretting what they did but the genie was already out of the bottle. MLB owners were patting themselves on the back when they got salary arbitration but Charles Finley told them they were were stupid and they’d live to regret what it was going to do to salaries (and they did).

  41. Mike Rendahl says: Mar 10, 2010 1:04 AM

    Last Starfighter…
    Wonder what your definition of a “loser franchise” is?
    Speaking of dicks, lemme guess yours is about 1 inch long; how typical…

  42. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 10, 2010 1:20 AM

    “Umm…if somebody would learn NFL history before showing their idiotic hatred for a team, they might know that the Jets are basically credited with creating the idea of the poison pill in contracts. That’s how they stole Curtis Martin away from the Pats.”
    No it’s not. The contract had some unique clauses but none of that “if you play so many games in Mass.” type crap. One clause said that Martin could become an unrestricted free agent after the 1998 season simply by giving back most, if not all of the $8.15 million signing bonus. That’s not a “poison pill” because it’s equally effective to both teams. Another clause said that Martin couldn’t be designated as a franchise or transition player by any AFCE team. Again, equally effective to both sides so it’s not a “poison pill”. It’s leverage that the Jets were willing to give up to the player and the Pats weren’t willing to give him.

  43. mr_snrub says: Mar 10, 2010 2:39 AM

    Poison pills are great, and funny. We need more of them. I don’t understand how any team would not poison pill the hell out of a contract given to a RFA.
    When we lost Hutchinson to the Vikings I didn’t feel anger towards Minnesota for doing what it could to procure his service, but rather ridiculed the greenhorn GM Ruskell for being moronic (using a transition tag on an all pro player – no team does that).
    To make matters worse the GM doubled down on his stupidity by not matching the offer and effectively guaranteeing the contract – a bargain at this point in time.
    Anyways, if a team is going to settle for RFA, franchise, and transition tenders then it should bear the risk of a poison pill filled contract.

  44. 46&2 says: Mar 10, 2010 2:46 AM

    chalk this up to pft falling in love with the word count on an article without writing anything of any substance whatsoever

  45. Whiterhinocerous says: Mar 10, 2010 2:57 AM

    Miles Austin must really like staying indoors in January, if he’s that worried about picking a team to contend for a Championship. I mean, he’s a Dallas Cowboy.
    Horse-mouth is in it for the money, same as everyone else.

  46. Tompadre says: Mar 10, 2010 3:49 AM

    Compensation is the main difference between the Hutchinson case and the restricted free agents since. Hutchinson came with no compensation attached, while most of the good restricted free agents have been tendered (especially this year) and will come at price beyond what the team pays out in the contract.
    By and large teams don’t loosen their grip on their draft choices easily; so going after a tendered free agent is a bigger investment and adds an element of risk many teams aren’t willing to take. If the free agent (with no compensation attached) bombs, you’re out the money. If you paid with a draft pick for a restricted free agent, then you’re out the money & the player(s) you could have drafted. In a deep draft like this that could really come back to haunt you.
    I think it’s less about teams using a “poison pill” and more about teams not willing to give up the draft picks required to acquire these tendered restricted free agents.

  47. FireJerryJones says: Mar 10, 2010 5:57 AM

    Jerry loves the camera. When it’s time to STFU – he can’t help himself.

  48. Mark says: Mar 10, 2010 6:31 AM

    Actually the “Poison Pill” can be traced back to the early 90′s when the Colts included one in the FA contract of Will Wolford an OL with the Bills at the time.

  49. thunderdog says: Mar 10, 2010 6:52 AM

    Oh, great. Just when tampering season ends, collusion season starts up.
    I know you don’t care that we don’t care but we don’t care.

  50. Hooby says: Mar 10, 2010 7:23 AM

    roy e williams
    patrick crayton
    terry glenn
    keyshawn johnson
    they had amazing years in dallas, right?

  51. darvon says: Mar 10, 2010 7:35 AM

    “Then again, the hidden genius of Jones’ remarks could be that he possibly has foreclosed teams from choosing to sign any restricted free agents to offer sheets, since his comments arguably now compel use of the poison pill. Though the union can still cry collusion if no RFAs are pursued, it will be very easy for teams to argue that they prefer not to sacrifice draft picks in what many regard as the deepest pool of incoming talent in years.”
    Aren’t there already several lesser players who have been RFA and signed by another team as of this date?
    Like Brian Clark.

  52. My Coke Can says: Mar 10, 2010 7:48 AM

    Obeah says:
    March 9, 2010 10:40 PM
    Jerry Jones is a self made man. The born rich hate him because he earned his money, and the working class envy his success.
    A self made man? Obviously you mean with the help of a plastic surgeon.

  53. LT2_3 says: Mar 10, 2010 7:49 AM

    2 points:
    1. It’s not collusion because no player is having his rights infringed upon by teams not using it. As the NFLPA said themselves “the union supported the device as a tool for promoting the ability of players to move from team to team”. Players don’t have an unfettered right to move from team to team.
    2. I suggest that the use of this sort of poison pill actually HURTS the player because the teams using it on offer sheets don’t have to make an offer of more money than the original team is willing to spend.
    So which is better for the player – an offer that gets them on a new team, or one that gets them more money?
    The only reason the NFLPA has the stance they do is because it’s a negotiating point. They can give up something they don’t care about for something of value in the new CBA negotiations.
    I also wonder if their dumba$$ stance on the issue contributed to the owners pulling the plug early on the current CBA. Sure, it’s probably like saying you can’t afford a TV you are $1000 short on buying because someone owes you $50, but I’m wondering if they were a bit more conciliatory that perhaps we wouldn’t have the level of looming battle in front of us.

  54. darvon says: Mar 10, 2010 7:52 AM

    RFAs have already been signed to other teams.

  55. CLosISgood says: Mar 10, 2010 8:29 AM

    I knew other fans hated the Cowboys…but I never knew to what extent.
    Makes it amazing.
    You guys kinda root for your teams, while using a fair amount of your low mental capacities and energy to hate on America’s team.
    As for us Cowboys fan, we could care less about rooting against any other team.
    I don’t have time to waste bashing teams that have no super bowl rings (Philly, Minn.)
    The redskins have been awful for however long, and then you other losers with loser teams just need to get a life.
    Stop hating on another team and root for your own.

  56. BHindEnemyLines says: Mar 10, 2010 8:57 AM

    Hey Hooby,
    For old times sake, whats your championship record in the divisional round in, say, the last 50 years???
    Oh, that’s right, you don’t have any.
    17,971 days since your team won a championship. Wow, you’re team hasn’t won a SB the whole time you’ve been alive. And that’s what its all about right, SB’s?
    I guess you can make yourself feel better by picking a time period when you can find a favorable stat that keeps you from putting the gun in your mouth.
    And one more question; when’s the last time Philly won a playoff game???

  57. BHindEnemyLines says: Mar 10, 2010 9:07 AM

    Hobby, get a dictionairy and look up the word “develop”.
    Three of the 4 receivers you mentioned were drafted by other teams.
    Good job proving your point.
    5 SB’s to Zero. Who “develops” teams better?
    Um…not philly.

  58. stevemcguigan says: Mar 10, 2010 9:08 AM

    Impossible, according to the sources of some mongo in his mother’s basement in Texas, the owners agreed to stop using poison pills!

  59. Franchise says: Mar 10, 2010 9:14 AM

    Ilove how people call the Vikings classless by finding a legit loophole in the process the NFL had in place.
    Even if it wasn’t the Vikings I would declare it a superb move by any team and front office.

  60. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 10, 2010 9:50 AM

    “Ilove how people call the Vikings classless by finding a legit loophole in the process the NFL had in place.”
    It’s not a loophole. It’s just a shitty thing to do to your business partner.

  61. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 10, 2010 9:51 AM

    “Impossible, according to the sources of some mongo in his mother’s basement in Texas, the owners agreed to stop using poison pills!”
    And they did. There hasn’t been a “poison pill” used since the Seahawks/Vikings dustup.

  62. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 10, 2010 10:13 AM

    “roy e williams
    patrick crayton
    terry glenn
    keyshawn johnson
    they had amazing years in dallas, right?”
    Only one of those guys was drafted and developed by the Cowboys but now that you mention it, they all have had some pretty good years with the Cowboys. All but Williams had multiple seasons of 5 TDs or better for the Cowboys and he’s only been there for a little over a season and a half. I was just looking at early draft picks but if you want to expand it, who am I to argue? Reggie Brown never did it for the 0-3gles, Freddie Mitchell never did, Pinkston never did, Avant never did, McMullen never did, Jackson has yet to do it and if you’re going to include guys that were brought in via methods other than the draft Donte Stallworth never did, Hank Baskett never did, Greg Lewis never did, in fact the only WRs to have two 5+ TD seasons for the 0-3gles since Reid took the job are TO and James Thrash.

  63. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 10, 2010 10:15 AM

    “Miles Austin must really like staying indoors in January, if he’s that worried about picking a team to contend for a Championship. I mean, he’s a Dallas Cowboy.”
    There are worse teams to play for in that regard. 34-14.

  64. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 10, 2010 10:19 AM

    “Aren’t there already several lesser players who have been RFA and signed by another team as of this date?”
    Brian Clark was not offered a tender by the Bucs. He was unrestricted.

  65. .VoxVeritas says: Mar 10, 2010 10:28 AM

    “RFAs have already been signed to other teams.”
    Who? Nobody. There have been three restricted free agent defections in the last three off-seasons so far. None last off-season and none so far this off-season.

  66. edgy1957 says: Mar 10, 2010 10:28 AM

    LT2_3 says:
    2. I suggest that the use of this sort of poison pill
    actually HURTS the player because the teams using
    ***************
    Why? The agent and the player have to agree to it and they’re NOT going to agree to taking less money when the agent is in the business of getting his client as much money as possible.

  67. texasPHINSfan says: Mar 10, 2010 3:11 PM

    How can the NFLPA “make” the teams use the poison pill? It’s a contract language and should be up to whomever is involved in the negotiations, not some stupid union.

  68. LT2_3 says: Mar 10, 2010 3:30 PM

    @edgy1957
    If you subtract the possibility of the poison pill from the equation, the team making the offer would have to come up with a financial reason for the other team not to match. The agent and the player can only deal with the offer that is made. Sure they can refuse to sign the offer, but with a poison pill as a possibility, the team doesn’t have to offer as much money to guarantee they would get the player from the other team.
    Look at it like this in the case of a starting safety. With the poison pill, they may only have to offer 4 million per year, where without, they might have to offer 6 million per year for the original team to think it’s too much.
    So, with an offer of 4 mil per year on the table, does the player decline to sign the deal because he doesn’t think it’s enough – or does he sign it anyway because he wants the signing bonus and security for his family?

  69. edgy1957 says: Mar 10, 2010 4:36 PM

    LT2_3 says: March 10, 2010 3:30 PM
    @edgy1957
    ***********************
    Don’t file those agent papers any time soon. An agent will accept a little less because of a high draft choice tender but NOT for a poison pill. Why would I, as an agent (or even a player), consider taking a deal that costs ME money if there wasn’t something in it for me? Ok, maybe I want to leave town but you know what, the number one reason for going out on the market has always been and will always be MORE MONEY. If my client wants more money and he doesn’t care who gives it to him, why would I hamstring his chances by closing off his options? You do that enough, most, if not all of your clients will find a new agent. A poison pill is meant to get my client to sign with THAT team so why would I accept LESS to accommodate THEM? Unless I call for the team to put the clause in the contract, why would I be stupid enough to lower my client’s expectations of a salary and by that same token, MY commission?

  70. FMWarner says: Mar 10, 2010 5:09 PM

    First of all, the union needs to stop spouting ridiculous ideas if they hope to have ANY sort of public support in the CBA battle. It’s perfectly obvious to anyone with a shred of intelligence that 32 owners can independently come to the conclusion that a bunch of JAGs aren’t worth ridiculous salaries or the potential fallout from using a poison pill.
    Second, even though it’s extremely unlikely that any team will attempt to acquire Miles Austin as an RFA, I really think it would be in Jerry’s interest to lock the guy up. He only broke out this year. If he has another great season next year, he’ll be that much more of a proven commodity, and he’ll cost a lot more. By standing pat, it’s almost like Jerry’s betting against Austin continuing to play well.

  71. USG says: Mar 11, 2010 10:06 AM

    LOL at Vox. I love fans like him. Fans that get all in a tissy whenever their team is talked about and goes on to defend every single post made by others.

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