The details continue to emerge in the Ben Roethlisberger sexual assault case, and in lieu of doing a post every time a new development occurs, we’ll simply post an update once per day or two or whenever we think of it.
Our friends at TMZ report that police in Milledgeville have seized security camera footage from the nightclub where the sexual assault allegedly occurred.
Per the report, multiple cameras were placed in several locations throughout the club. Roethlisberger supposedly can be identified in some of the footage.
Meanwhile, TMZ also reports that some comments posted on Facebook and Twitter by the accuser’s sorority sisters have been removed, at the direct instruction of the sorority to which the women belong. We’d heard, admittedly second hand, that some of the messages might have actually indicated that Roethlisberger didn’t do what he allegedly did.
Finally, the second set of sexual assault allegations has created a critical mass of sorts regarding the perception that Roethlisberger is a jerk. Talk radio in Pittsburgh has been flooded with accounts of boorish behavior by Big Ben, and Colin Cowherd of ESPN Radio pointed out during his Tuesday show that there are many in the media who have stories to share about Roethlisberger being a butthole.
“Difficult, ego, likes to be a big fish in a small pond, treats people poorly,” Cowherd said of the things he has heard from folks in the business about Ben Roethlisberger. “It’s been eye-opening to me. Roethlisberger’s made some enemies.”
We’ve heard several of the same stories from media types we trust, making it hard to feel badly about any consequences that such behavior might trigger, regardless of whether a crime technically was or was not committed.
Anybody from Ohio will tell you that most Miami alumni are like that. No surprise.
Colin Cowherd is calling someone out for having an inflated ego?
Funniest thing I heard all day!
Both guys are ego maniacs, but let’s keep in mind that only one of them has two Superbowl rings to justify the ego.
Have TWO (2) relatives who were at Miami during the same time as Ben in the tiny college town of Oxford, OH. He had a reputation then of being an ahole – as well as a pig around coeds.
Pig Ben strikes again.
He is a pig. Flat out.
Stop throwing Tiger to the wolves. He is a Priest compared to Ben. The only difference is that Ben isn’t married, which is a huge difference, but still doesn’t give you the right to treat woman with such little respect.
So what your saying is, whether Roethlisberger (or any other athlete) is or isn’t guilty of a crime, he deserves to be publically criticized because he’s occasionally a jerk to the media?
I’m no fan of Ben or the Steelers, but either bring forth charges, or wrap this thing up.
Roethlisberger investigation keeps moving – just like Ben’s hand up the thigh of his next unwitting victim.
I think if Ben did what he’s being accused of he needs to be locked up…
But what does him being a jerk have to do with anything? I mean that’s not a crime is it?
“‘Difficult, ego, likes to be a big fish in a small pond, treats people poorly,’ Cowherd said … We’ve heard several of the same stories from media types we trust, making it hard to feel badly about any consequences that such behavior might trigger, regardless of whether a crime technically was or was not committed.”
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Good night, Florio. Tell me an attorney didn’t write that.
Assuming the assault charge is bogus–and frankly, I am assuming that–I’d like to grab Ben by the ear twist it ’til he yowls, drag him to a chair, plop him down, and read him the riot act for a couple of hours in my own inimitable way.
But rape and sexual assault are far too serious to be used as get-rich-quick schemes on lump-headed egomaniacs. And our jail space needs to be taken up by real sexual predators.
“We’ve heard several of the same stories from media types we trust, making it hard to feel badly”
You feel “bad,” not “badly.” Unless, of course, you braced your fall in a motorcycle accident with your hands, as opposed to your head, like the quarterback above once did.
He is no Tom Brady. He handles women like he rides motorcycles. Wreckless, dangerous, and hurts his image.
“…there are many in the media who have stories to share about Roethlisberger being a butthole.”
A “butthole”? What are you guys, 10?
Not a Steeler fan, but being a butthole is not a crime. The media who judge him made that butthole only to step back and gasp, “Butthole.” Yes, celebrities have the advantage in conflicts with mere mortals in court because they buy better counsel, but the mortals also target the celebrities who are vulnerable in some situations. Bottom line, Everybody involved is a butthole.
Go Panthers
I wonder how it feels to know that everyone including your own fans think you are a total duche?
I have never dealt with or even met Big Ben, but know many people who have. They all say the same thing. He doesn’t act like his status as an NFL quarterback makes him better or that he is some sort of NFL god. they say he is just a jerk. That if he were a bus driver he’s be Ben the bus driving jerk. He’s a hell of a quarterback though. I sure hope he didn’t do this, but either way, he needs to change if he wants to stay in favor with the fans. If he stays on the right side of the law though, and wants to be a jerk that wins more superbowls, I am fine with that in my teams quarterback. I work with many people who are great at their jobs, and act the same way. that is their right as long as they stay on the right side of the law.
perception is reality- he should have learned that lesson last time-
Obviously, he’s a little self absorbed if that was not grasped
Any more intelligent comments Frank Burns?
Every night at the club the girls screamed when he’d come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn’t go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
Once it is proven that Ben did nothing wrong, all the “guilty before proven innocent” people need to owe this man an apology! People need to look int he mirror people unjustly accusing someone guilty without the evidence!
NEWSFLASH: It was just reported that 2 police officers were with Big Ben all night.
INNOCENT!!!!
“We’d heard, admittedly second hand, that some of the messages might have actually indicated that Roethlisberger didn’t do what he allegedly did.”
Very, very, interesting. Can’t wait to see if this is true or not.
“We’d heard, admittedly second hand, that some of the messages might have actually indicated that Roethlisberger didn’t do what he allegedly did.”
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Interesting.
Except of course to the hater crowd.
For those of you saying the second accuser is again a gold digger, trying to take advantage of poor Ben, I must point out that with all the women Tiger Woods was involved with NONE of them have accused him of sexual assault, and he is worth a lot more than Ben R.
You “Devils” are something else. By now Vick, Kobey, Tiger, Michael Jackson, etc would have been crucified by now.
The dude is nothing more than a ghetto thug and should be locked up for life for the way he treats women.
Surely a few of you dog kissing animal lovers would support women at least equally as you do for stupid dogs.
The truth shall set you free
I wasn’t in the club that night but I seriously doubt he’d be stupid enough to assault a college girl in plain view of others. He is definitely guilty of being a dumbass. If he wins the SB next year all is forgotten.
Deb, I agree completely about reading Ben the riot act. But I don’t know if I would grab his ear, and I would probably use something like a pair of pliers LOL. But seriously, if he comes away with no liability in this, and he still does not get the message, what can you say? This has to be the end of the embarrassing behavior with him. After he retires he can do whatever he wants.
That is what always kills me, when people watch some of these guys and really think because they watch the guy on TV that they know them.
I see PFT is doing it’s part to start to spread so called second and third hand information to try and defend Dumb Ben, much as you did in the Lake Tahoe posts.
No one is that unlucky, if it walks like a Duck and talks like a Duck it is a Duck.
As long as you are spreading second hand info. I saw a picture Ben took with the victims friend prior to the alleged Rape. You can see he is blitzed out of his mind. After he made a move on this kid and she rejected him he turned to go hit on another kid calling the one in the picture a Bitch.
Whats with this punk, is he intimidated by being around women close to his age. The old guy has to go hit on kids just out of High School? Charges or no charges this guy is nothing but a PUNK.
Not a Steelers fan, don’t like BR… & never have…but I don’t think he’s some sort of rapist either. I think he’s just a guy who doesn’t like to be told no or told what to do. I mean think about it…he had publicly reported problems getting along with the last coach who actually wanted to coach him up(Whisenhunt). He doesn’t like authority. He had teammates questioning his work ethic and had snipefights with them publicly (Ward last year & the whole “tall receivers” thing). I’ve never thought of him as a leader. There were reports of his not being picked as a captain either until somehow he wound up as one. Leaders set examples…good ones. He has yet to do that IMO.
Being an arrogant non team leader drama queen type butthole who won’t take coaching isn’t a crime though. It just isn’t what I want to see in the QB of my team.
Stupidity. If being a butthole means that you feel entitled to anything that you want, then it can be a crime. I can’t believe that he is stupid enough to have sex with this girl in a bar. The only way this story holds water is if she went into the bathroom and then he went in after she did. If they went in together and there are no other witnesses saying that they know anything else, then you can’t prove anything. Charges can’t be brought about. If they went in together, alone, and came out together, its a he said she said thing.
BonnieD:
So b/c Tiger has more money that means Ben’s accuser is not a gold digger?
Swigger: A moron with 2 Superbowl rings.
Everyone go the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. They are reporting that 2 police officers were with Ben all night. Maybe Ben is smarter than you haters think.
Florio wrote “perhaps there’s a number north of $100,000 and south
of $1 million that she’d take to waive any civil claims and drop her charges’.
‘Tho Florio is no longer a lawyer, it sounds like Roethlisberger should consider
his advice! http://www.hubdub.com/m47985 Do you suppose, behind the scenes,
that Florio somehow got Michael Jackson’s ear from time to time?
Well as a die hard Steelers fan I hope this isn’t true. I can hardly believe after the last incident Ben would put himself in that situation. Maybe the girl figured since he was accused once, people would be more apt to believe her this time. I don’t know. If it turns out to be true, well he just needs to go. I hate to say it but no matter how good he is we can’t allow that behavior. I love the Steelers but I love the game more. I think I would have a difficult time watching my team play with a QB that got special treatment because he was an NFL player.
Ben… I know it will be painful but pull that big block head out of your rectum and get it together. Otherwise you will be going to the rec. yard with Rae Carruth and Pac-Man Jones
“Difficult, ego, likes to be a big fish in a small pond, treats people poorly.”
sounds more like Cowherd on Cowherd
The two cops with him were from Pittsburgh, which means they would’ve tasered the girl into submission for him if he had asked.
Everything I’ve gleaned about Ben over the years is that he is immature. It’s not a crime in itself, but it’s also not a flattering thing to be.
Oh, and as far as people in the media dubbing others to be buttholes — yeah, no reporter ever provoked said buttholery with a preemptive volley of their own buttholeness.
BonnieD says:
March 10, 2010 5:13 PM
For those of you saying the second accuser is again a gold digger, trying to take advantage of poor Ben, I must point out that with all the women Tiger Woods was involved with NONE of them have accused him of sexual assault, and he is worth a lot more than Ben R.
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THANK YOU!
# emmac13 says: March 10, 2010 4:54 PM
He is no Tom Brady. He handles women like he rides motorcycles. Wreckless, dangerous, and hurts his image.
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Bridget Moynahan says hello.
@funi says: ‘Once it is proven that Ben did nothing wrong, all the “guilty before proven innocent” people need to owe this man an apology!’
Sorry, but screw that. I’ve not said he’s guilty but eff poor Ben’s feelings. It’s obvious now that he’s either simply a total ahole or a total ahole who deserves to be in jail. Seems to me if anyone needs to apologize it’s that big furry fool Ben for putting himself in the position in the 1st place.
Regardless of the outcome his rep is shot, kaput, done. I get the feeling he may be paying for sex in the future not only to protect himself from situations like he’s in now but also because he can’t get it anywhere else.
Ohh, boo hoo Ben, boo hoo. We’re so sowwwy for you being a dickface.
He’s trying to get enough demerits to get hired by the NFL Network when he is done playing.
“We’ve heard several of the same stories from media types we trust, making it hard to feel badly about any consequences that such behavior might trigger, regardless of whether a crime technically was or was not committed.”
So if a crime wasn’t committed, but Ben is found guilty in the court of public opinion of being a sex offender and/or rapist . . . you don’t think that is wrong? Again, if a crime wasn’t committed, you think being a jerk and/or “butthole” justifies someone falsely accusing someone of sexual assault?
Dude . . . you really need a reality check if you feel that way.
ampats says: March 10, 2010 5:02 PM
Any more intelligent comments Frank Burns?
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Yeah. If and when it comes out that Ben didn’t actually do this, are you going to be a man and apologize?
Where is the info on conflicting facebook / twitter posts?
All I have heard is that the sorority told them to take down social networking and not wear anything that would identify them as being members.
Clearly a move to keep them away from anyone looking to interview them – press or otherwise.
Or were they writing stuff on their clothes that suggested Ben was innocent!?!?!
Post the source of the inuendo, or don’t be so responsible as to repeat it. Because now, genius, YOU are the source of that particular rumor.
Heckuva job, Florio. Did you miss ethics class the day they taught it at school?
Being a jerk or an asshole is different than sexually assaulting someone. He should know better than to put himself in that situation though. I find it an interesting coincidence than he gets a 100 million dollar contract and now every girl that he has a 1 night stand with is trying to get rich. Hopefully he did no wrong doing and is exonerated. Of course his image is gonna take another hit during all this.
@Massappeal …”He’s trying to get enough demerits to get hired by the NFL Network when he is done playing.”
LOL…If he really did it he would have VIP status on ProFootballTalk!!!
ampats says: March 10, 2010 5:02 PM
Any more intelligent comments Frank Burns?
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Yeah. If and when it comes out that Ben didn’t actually do this, are you going to be a man and apologize?
Hawkeye and Pierce want to see you.
I went to Miami with the Benitentiary and he was usually not too bad, but he could be obnoxious when he was drunk. Welcome to the club.
Then, randomly I ran into Has Ben at Nemacola resort and he was falling over drunk on the bowling lanes. He was completely obnoxious and out of control. I think that was like two summers ago. He also looked out of shape and banged up since when he was in college. The guy has changed quite a bit over the years, and not for the better.
I’d guess that he didn’t rape the woman, but he’s clearly out of control and in need of a sitdown. People who can’t behave themselves on booze should lay off of it.
YOU DOUCHED ME….AGAIN!!!!!
I love the comments from the Steeler fans saying once it is proven he didn’t do what he is alleged to have done, you owe him an appology. Many of these are the same ass clowns that STILL call Ray Lewis a murderer despite the FACT that the murder charges against him were dropped. Like it or not Steeler fans, whether he emerges from this SECOND allegation of sexual assault innocent or not, his reputation from here on out will always be tarnished.
DON’T MAKE ME SHUT YOUR SITE DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those who are not Steeler fans and making disrespectful coments deserve to be burned alive. Tell me who your team is and when one of the players on your team does something wrong I will make sure to let you know how I feel.
Being an ass is a crime in my book. Take that you pious, effete weenies.
I was just trying to get her to fix my TV.
@Holeinone09 …
I probably couldn’t reach his ear anyway LOL
@BonnieD …
Do you really think Tiger Woods is the only married professional athlete who’s had multiple lovers? But he’s the one who’s in the news. Why? Something lit the fuse and set off a chain reaction. That’s what happened here.
In Tiger’s case, once stories about one lover surfaced, all the other women came out of the woodwork … most hoping for their 15 minutes. They’re looking to cash in–and don’t be surprised if at least one doesn’t file a civil suit for something. In fact, it’s very possible that Tiger’s attorneys already have reached settlements with these women specifying that the details be kept under wraps.
In Ben’s case, he had a one-night stand with a woman who told several people she hoped she was pregnant and wanted to go to Pittsburgh in hopes of running into him. She was also involved in an online relationship with a nonexistent person invented by the wife of her former lover. When that blew up, she had a breakdown and ran up thousands in medical bills. That’s when she sued Ben. Apparently Tiger had ongoing relationships with several of his women. Ben had a one-niter … and she needed money.
Once that accusation was made, he became an easy target for similar allegations. Being a jackass and a dog around women doesn’t help.
@ emmac13
No. Tom Brady just has a problem with producing illigitimate children.
If and when ( assumption) it comes out that Ben did not do this and the girl admits she made the story up yes I will for believing her.
BUT “if and when”he is charged or comes to an agreement AKA Donte Stallworth then will you admit you were wrong?
Based on what has been reported it doesn’t sound as Ben is innocent bystander?
We will see what happens.
And Frank, calling someone a dirtbag portrays you as someone who is uneducated. Its a step above those who hurl mighty expletives thru their keyboards at others as if to intimidate them.
“# HawgNSonsTV says: March 10, 2010 5:57 PM
DON’T MAKE ME SHUT YOUR SITE DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
I see we have our first “special needs” poster! That’s nice.
No matter how he plays on the field, it won’t be possible for his mind to be completely on football again. HE will always be aware that the public is wishing for his failure.
Shawn says: “Those who are not Steeler fans and making disrespectful coments deserve to be burned alive. Tell me who your team is and when one of the players on your team does something wrong I will make sure to let you know how I feel.”
So the penalty for making “disrespectful” comments about the Steelers is death. But sexual assault is no big deal?
Gotta love the Steeler value system.
As much as I think Florio is a Rooney Rule loving douche, I do bet that Pig Ben does exactly what Florio earlier suggested. He will confidentially pay her off and charges will mysteriously disappear.
Well still no charges. So he’s not guilty of anything yet.
Well, he may be a lousy human being, but they don’t put you in jail for that. That’s why we have politics.
as my screen name shows i’m a fin fan and i really dont care about the steelers or bigben for that matter but i see a load of b.s. with these 2 seperate supposed rapes the first one wasn’t even reported for like 8 months after it supposedly happened, i dont believe the woman that said it anymore than i believe the sun wont rise tomorrow. and coupled with the fact she is trying to win a civil case and not persuing criminal charges really makes me think she’s a liar/golddigger.now this second one tha twas reported nearly right away but yet no arrest and this investigation seems to drag on the one thing that is clear at the moment is that there is no real evidence or else big ben would have most certianly been arrested by now.so i really think at the end of the day these 2 cases will go away what i believe will be sad if they do go away is nothing will happen to these 2 liars that have put bigben in the spot he’s in. and incase anyone is wondering why i carry on about a player that dont mean anything to me is because i’d hate to see it happen to a player that does mean somthing to me.so these two golddigging liars need to go get a job and stop trying to ruin other people for own selfish interests
This guy has always been an asshole. I can remember meeting him a couple different times when he went to Miami Oxford at some of the bars around town. He always had the “I am better than everyone else” attitude and always talked down to everyone that worked in the bar/bars or just other people in the bar. He is still a joke and regardless of whether he did sexually assault this girl or not, why does he keep putting himself in these situations. He is a multi millionaire and a high profile guys, if he is dumb enough to keep putting himself in these situations then he deserves what happens to him.
comparing tiger to ben is like mixing apples and oranges,because tiger was smarter and found professionals that he paid when he was done not amatures that wanted to get paid as an after thought
I wish all players on my favorite teams were choir boys like Kurt Warner but they’re not. Just because he’s a jerk sometimes doesn’t make him any different than alot of the people in the world. I’ve also heard several instances about the “media” being jerks too, especially those in Bristol. Those people think they are bigger than life.
FLORIO, you state you’ve heard the same stories from media types you trust…yet you quote Collin Cowherd, …it’s actually funny to read Cowherds description of Ben, “difficult, EGO, likes to be a big fish in a small pond, treats people poorly”,…IF I didn’t know better, that would sound like someone describing Cowherd, especially the EGO part,…anyone who’s ever heard his radio show, it’s all about Cowherd and his EGO, him talking down to his listeners,…I’ve heard people on a local ESPN radio station, when the hosts were asked about Cowherd, they didn’t spend a lot of time talking about him, but the hosts said enough, you could tell they didn’t like him…Jenille Hill of ESPN wrote an article critical of Ben, MAYBE you could have referenced her in this article, instead of an asshole like Cowherd, who is as much an expert of BIG EGO and being a jerk, as OJ Simpson is an expert on domestic violence.
@Massappeal …”He’s trying to get enough demerits to get hired by the NFL Network when he is done playing.”
That’s just funny!!
Based on where he has a house, there are not many restaurants and bars in the immediate area to hang out in. He should’ve just stayed home, but assuming that he didn’t have anything better to do, then I could see why he went to Milledgeville.
One item, I’m sure Cornflorio has mentioned, is that this lady described him as big white guy, 6’5″ 241lbs…….. not really anything to get your attention until you think about it….
Opie – can you point me to the source for her describing his weight? I have heard that said, but haven’t run across the source. Not saying it doesn’t exist, just haven’t seen it.
@ snnyjcbs
That photo is from 2006. It’s not the alleged “victim’s friend.”
I really like this site for football NEWS. Shame that it has gone out of its way to report gossip throughout this process.
Your comments about Ben’s personality and such remind me of something I’d see in the National Enquirer. Whatever happened to responsible journalism? From the beginning, I said I didn’t want to delve into the legalities of this case but now, thanks to news about this woman’s decisions and history and your own asinine commentaries, you actually have me rooting for the guy to pull through the character assassinations.
Just how close to the line of “slander and libel” is the media going to get?
Doctor K – this is America. You’d have to prove that there was malicious intent in order to win a libel suit. You’d have to prove that Florio had it out for Ben and was trying to hurt him. Do you think he is?
And I think many would agree that this site is half sports and half Enquirer, which makes it unique and entertaining.
“…but now, thanks to news about this woman’s decisions and history and your own asinine commentaries, you actually have me rooting for the guy to pull through the character assassinations.”
Such as? What decisions and history? I have not heard anything about her. Please share.
@ Johnnyb612 – There is a difference even though neither is right to me. But sexual assult is breaking the law and not wearing a condom is just foolish.