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Ben's attorney claims he has evidence of innocence

Though attorney Ed Garland has not yet agreed to provide a DNA sample from his client, Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, to authorities investigating sexual assault charges, Garland is willing to share broad, general proclamations that his client didn’t do it.

There’s a shock.

Kelly Naqi of ESPN reports that Garland says the defense-initiated investigation has generated “significant information that points to Roethlisberger’s innocence.”  But since Garland provides no details, it’s impossible to know whether it’s true — or whether he’s merely trying to counter some of the damage that has been done to Ben’s image via the “once is an accident, twice is a trend” mindset possessed by many of the jurors of the court of public opinion.

Garland’s comments might also be intended to distract the rest of us from the apparent failure to cooperate with the investigation, even though Roethlisberger’s agent initially vowed that the cooperation would be complete.  (Thanks to our buddy Brooks for helping us make that fairly obvious connection, which we had not otherwise made.  Because sometimes we can be a little slow.)

So which is it?  Will Ben’s team “continue to cooperate with everyone involved”?  Or will Garland simply proclaim innocence while taking no tangible steps to prove it?

For now, it looks like it’ll be the latter.

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  1. Chapnasty2 says: Mar 12, 2010 6:40 AM

    The more they talk the more stupid and guilty they look. Just shut up and let the investigation play out.

  2. Outlaw Jersey Whales says: Mar 12, 2010 6:44 AM

    Evidence of Ray Lewis’ innocence!
    It seems Garland found the Atlanta murder weapons in Roethlisbergers’ motorcycle saddle-bags!

  3. roadkill says: Mar 12, 2010 6:44 AM

    If Ben’s lawyer has found evidence that will derail the criminal investigation regardless, then there’s no reason to continue to cooperate.
    If they do have evidence, they need to do a full-court press on this and really take it to this girl. Ben has a huge public perception mess to clean up. I’m a Steeler fan, and while I really like the way Ben plays football, a big part of me would rather see him just go away.
    He needs to stop acting like an invincible, entitled teenager. It’s time to start wearing the baseball cap with the bill facing forward, like any other grown man would do.

  4. 123456789 says: Mar 12, 2010 6:49 AM

    Not even the best attorney in the world could come up with a shred of evidence that proves Ben isn’t an @$$hole. Because, such evidence doesn’t exist. Because, Ben is an @$$hole.
    Someone please make this sack of pus go away. He needs to go.

  5. Ravenmuscle says: Mar 12, 2010 6:50 AM

    Then provide the DNA sample to the authorities and there shouldn’t be any question Mr. Garland.

  6. DogCollar says: Mar 12, 2010 6:58 AM

    You should know that the defense doesn’t have to “prove” anything. It’s up to the prosecution to prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt. That’s basic criminal law.
    I believe that the NFL and the Steelers don’t have the same limitations as the legal system. I think it would be perfectly acceptable for them to suspend Rothlesberger pending the outcome of an investigation and trial.
    At the very least, Ben is in a world of trouble with football fans! If it is proven that there was ANY sexual contact between Ben and the victim, the reaction of the football public will be more vicious than what was directed toward Michael Vick and justifiably so. How does one reform the image of someone accussed of sexual assualt? Vick can stay away from dogs, but Ben can’t stay away from half of the worlds population. He is going to be a hated man the rest of his life.

  7. HawgNSonsTV2 says: Mar 12, 2010 7:02 AM

    The judicial system is looking for their COME-UP also!

  8. BBB82 says: Mar 12, 2010 7:05 AM

    I doubt they can prove that he isn’t a big jackass.

  9. BillsFan27 says: Mar 12, 2010 7:08 AM

    Ed Garland is a douchebag – which obviously makes him a perfect fit for the douchebag he’s representing.
    And noting an earlier story: any millionaire athlete who blows off a make-a-wish kid deserves all the turd sandwiches he can eat. I guess he had such a pressing schedule – even though the only pressing going on was in a Georgia nightclub restroom. Illegally.
    Seriously.
    Steelers fans should be outright embarrassed that this clown represents their city. Especially as a wouldbe sexual predator.

  10. NoKoolaidCowboy says: Mar 12, 2010 7:14 AM

    Distraction.

  11. Hal says: Mar 12, 2010 7:16 AM

    “He is going to be a hated man the rest of his life.”
    For varying reasons, that has been the case outside of Pittsburgh for a couple of years now. And no Steeler fans, that has nothing to do with any sort of jealousy that you want to conjure up towards his ability to win football games. It has everything to do with the fact that he is an injury feigning, pork-faced satan that apparently does not have any idea how to treat people. – Allegedly…

  12. roadkill says: Mar 12, 2010 7:20 AM

    The easy way to clean up this mess is to get married. Of course, you’ve gotta stop shagging everything that walks by first.

  13. pinkworm says: Mar 12, 2010 7:21 AM

    123456789=d-bag

  14. southFLAsteel says: Mar 12, 2010 7:36 AM

    the defense team NEVER has to fully cooperate with the parties seeking to gather info in order to prosecute someone. it’s called “building a defense”, “interviewing your own witnesses”, and “vetting all the facts”. but i guess being some sort of hack lawyer, you’d never know this, florio?and as i said yesterday, i have to say that i am absolutely astonished at the so-called “steeler fans” on here ready to dump all over ben. you people are not in any way, shape, or form steeler fans. i have more respect for the raven fans that always continued to show massive support to ray lewis, even after he was CONVICTED of obstruction of justice in a FREAKIN’ DOUBLE HOMICIDE!!! you pathetic jerks that call yourselves part of the steeler nation, please, GO THE F_CK AWAY!! and 123456789, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. efin’ pretender. go support the browns. the steelers damn sure don’t need you. we true steeler fans will reserve judgement until all the facts and evidence have come to light. have all of you jag-offs forgotten the duke lacrosse case? ben has never done anything to me personally, except provide my team with 2 championships and several exciting and entertaining football seasons. don’t know what the hell he ever did to any of you to piss you all off so bad and warrant loosing your support. and as for the rest of you sad-sack wannabes, we have always known you’re all a bunch of douches who can only dream your team wins SIX LOMBARDI’S one day. stay hatin’. it makes us in steeler nation KNOW we are the predominant team of the last several decades!

  15. 8man says: Mar 12, 2010 7:36 AM

    He may not have to prove innocence. No charges yet.
    And honestly, since there was no rape, how far will this really go? There is probably no doubt he took liberties with the girl, assuming she didn’t invite it, but ultimately it’s a “he said – she said”.
    Right now it sounds like a couple of drunk adults goofing around in bathroom playing kissy-face. One goes a little too far and it devolves into stumble fest.
    Barring any charges, that is how I’m looking at it.
    And I freaking hate the guy! Not that it makes my opinion any more valid. I just wanted to type that.

  16. Filbertkiwi71 says: Mar 12, 2010 7:43 AM

    Hey Mike,
    The old saying goes: “Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times is a trend.”
    I have no idea if Ben is guilty or innocent. Regardless, it will be interesting to see how Goodell handles this situation.

  17. GirthyOne says: Mar 12, 2010 7:47 AM

    I am not saying he did or didn’t do anything wrong. Apparently, there was no intercourse, so rape is out. Next in line is some oral by one or both, etc. Single guy, single girl and I don’t see a problem. Lets hear what she says and what everyone else says.
    If I didn’t do anything wrong, you can be damn sure I wouldn’t cooperate, would you?
    So the guy is apparently not the nicest guy, doesn’t want to give autographs or take pictures. I know after a while, it has bothered a lot of people. Assuming he isn’t forcing himself on women, Big Ben shows poor judgement only because he is putting himself in situations that could have huge ramifications on his reputation and therefore, the leagues.
    Time to get a girlfriend.

  18. Richm2256 says: Mar 12, 2010 7:58 AM

    So Garland’s plan to stop the bleeding of Ben’s career is to say “We have evidence that supports his inocence”, and then not provide it???
    Great plan, folks.
    Florio, 8 days ago, you wrote: “The ideal outcome for Roethlisberger would be to have this situation resolved clearly and cleanly as soon as possible, with Roethlisberger at some point denying the charges directly, and not through an agent or a lawyer.”
    Eight days later, has Roethlisberger looked into a camera and said the simple words “I didn’t assault this woman”?
    No.
    Why not?
    Roethlisberger has taken every action of a guilty man with something to hide. Doesn’t mean he IS guilty, just means he’s not acting very innocent. Still think that “Satan” T shirt was a good idea, Ben? Think that’s how you want your fans to remember you? When you were in that lady’s room getting that “consent”, did you think of how it was going to look to your fans?
    Stupid, stupid, stupid.
    Does anyone think for one minute that Roethlisberger isn’t going to set himself up for a third accusation down the road? Plaxico Buress didn’t shoot himself as bad as this moron has.

  19. gopher says: Mar 12, 2010 7:59 AM

    What a wonderful post, Ben’s lawyer says “he has proof that Ben is not guilty” I guess if I was paying big bucks for a big shot lawyer I would expect him to say that.

  20. pft1 says: Mar 12, 2010 8:06 AM

    wow…since when do you have to prove your innocence? your last comment contradicts the most basic principal of the legal system…innocent until proven guiltly?

  21. BuckFigBen says: Mar 12, 2010 8:08 AM

    He hasn’t been charged yet, so why is he sitting on the evidence? If I had a lawyer saying he had evidence, he had better be holding a press conference and showing the world before I got charged.
    Unless his evidence is a talking toilet, I don’t buy it.

  22. Mooch says: Mar 12, 2010 8:08 AM

    Ben is done forever reputation-wise. One of the reasons I’ve been checking in so often is to judge the reaction of fans – especially those in Pittsburgh. It’s been said since the get-go that Ben was a jackoff, but ESPN and the national media embraced and promoted him regardless of how he treated reporters, teammates, and fans.
    It’s been very interesting to see how fans view this guy. The fact that the response is overwhelmingly “this guy is an idiot no matter what the verdict” is telling.
    Again, I think the blow to his reputation is the sum total of where this goes. Ben won’t be arrested, brought to criminal trial, or forced to address what happened. Ever. He even avoid a civil trial by making a payment to the victim and moving on. But that does nothing to repair his image.
    The play is to say “we’re innocent and we can prove it” while preparing to make that financial offer. That seems to be the best play.

  23. wydok says: Mar 12, 2010 8:09 AM

    Yeah. The evidence is that a whole bunch of Benjamin Franklins say Ben didn’t do it.

  24. DG0122 says: Mar 12, 2010 8:11 AM

    Ben Roethlisberger= real life Kenny Powers

  25. lichnor says: Mar 12, 2010 8:14 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
    It’s a bit long of a video but worth every single second.

  26. BengalsDouche2 says: Mar 12, 2010 8:21 AM

    DogCollar: You must have missed the article where Ben did admit there was sexual contact between him and the “victim”. So that’s already out. But he’s saying it wasn’t forced and it was consentual. But they also said they didn’t have sex. So he was probably playing hide and seek with his fingers on her in the VIP room of the club and then tried to hit it and she said no. He then probably got pissed and shoved her to get out and that’s when shit hit the fan. Ben’s an ass. Ring him up please.

  27. Nevisyakker says: Mar 12, 2010 8:34 AM

    You’re right DogCollar, the defense doesn’t have to prove anything—if your goal is only to avoid jail. However, if your goal(s) include appeasing the NFL and Herr Goodell, then giving DNA and anything else that could prove that you are at least in some way the “victim” in this would be very important to you.
    Roethlisberger has taken so many hits to his reputation in this already that his lawyer’s statement about him emerging from this mess with his reputation intact is laughable.
    If you are going to choose to swim in a cesspool you have to accept the fact that your going to get some on ya.

  28. Bdrunk says: Mar 12, 2010 8:35 AM

    Roadkill says:
    “If they do have evidence, they need to do a full-court press on this and really take it to this girl. Ben has a huge public perception mess to clean up.”
    Fellow Steeler fan here…
    I dunno about this. IF he’s charged and found innocent, er, not guilty, I think his image will repair itself quicker if he takes the high road and doesn’t try to ruin the life of what WOULD be a stupid kid. Kind of give her the benefit of the doubt. As for Ms. McNulty, oh yeah run her through the ringer.

  29. It puts the lotion on the skin says: Mar 12, 2010 8:38 AM

    roadkill says: March 12, 2010 6:44 AM
    If Ben’s lawyer has found evidence that will derail the criminal investigation regardless, then there’s no reason to continue to cooperate.
    ____________________________________
    HUH????? If I was Ben, and my attorney had evidence that will clear me, 100%, with no shadow of doubt, he damn well better present that evidence. The faster that happens, the faster Ben is cleared, and the faster Ben has to stop paying ridiculous attorney fees……
    Bottom line, if Ben isnt in a hurry to clear his name, with this alleged evidence, then it is likely the evidence doesnt exist….
    Perhaps you are of the opinion that “we” have the evidence that ill clear Ben, so they should stop cooperating, but I think it is even more reason to cooperate, to clear my name as fast as possible. Why drag it out….?

  30. Gordon-Geico-Gekko says: Mar 12, 2010 8:44 AM

    “# Ravenmuscle says: March 12, 2010 6:50 AM
    Then provide the DNA sample to the authorities and there shouldn’t be any question Mr. Garland.”
    In this country, comrade, it’s up to the authorities to prove your guilt. You are not required to prove your innocence.
    See “Bill of Rights”.

  31. highjak78 says: Mar 12, 2010 8:46 AM

    If Rapistburger is sooooo innocent he should give his DNA for testing – it’s the only way that douche can halfway “prove” his innocence. He was with a bunch of cops and they can’t cover up his antics! What does that tell you?

  32. slipkid says: Mar 12, 2010 8:51 AM

    am i missing something? what has this got to do with favre?

  33. BrutusJones says: Mar 12, 2010 9:15 AM

    Florio is just trolling at this point.
    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a sports journalist so desperate to go out of his way to troll an athlete. We get it Florio, you don’t like the Steelers or Ben Roethlisberger, we got that point 50 Ben related articles ago. It’s pretty sad to be honest.

  34. The Real Shuxion says: Mar 12, 2010 9:16 AM

    Whether Ben is guilty or innocent…. bottom line he just needs to stick with hookers and porn stars. Go to the studios for Score magazine and hook up with like Kianna Dior or Ava Devine or Puma Swede or Carmen Hayes. a week with them will hold you over for a good 3 years.

  35. Obeah says: Mar 12, 2010 9:17 AM

    Does anyone think that the motorcycle accident may have caused brain damage, or has he always been this dense?

  36. jlbay says: Mar 12, 2010 9:18 AM

    I don’t understand why Roethlisberger’s defense team wouldn’t provide a DNA sample. They have already admitted to having sexual contact, but have denied any actual intercourse . . . from some of the posted I read previous to them being removed from the web it seems as if the girls account of the incident is aligned with what Roethlisberger has said, of course with the major exception being consent. If there had been forced intercourse then the allegation wouldn’t be sexual assault – it would be rape . . . but no one has made any allegation of rape.
    So if Ben claims there was consensual sexual contact – the girl claims there was forced sexual contact – then DNA would most likely be present no matter which occurred. I am not make a case for or against Ben’s guilt . . . I am just confused why his defense team wouldn’t provide a DNA sample . . . it is proof of nothing but sexual contact (forced or consensual).
    I will profess that I agree with Mooch in the Roethlisberger’s reputation is pretty much mud. At the very least he will be viewed as a complete idiot and an obnoxious a-hole . . . at worst a serial rapist . . . and I think his ability to get any sponsorship deals is pretty much shot . . . unless the endorsement is for either motorcycle insurance or high priced defense attorneys.

  37. MSWRavens says: Mar 12, 2010 9:26 AM

    Yeah – lets face it…while I am interested in the criminal case…we’re talking about a grown ass man, NFL superstar, $100M contract, and he’s getting it on in the bathroom at a club in some podunk Georgia college town w/ a college kid??? Child please!
    The verdict on Ben is that he’s a world class jackass & loser. He can certainly change his life and rehabilitate himself…ala my boy Ray…but unless and until he does, being a world class jackass & loser is about the best we can say about the guy, pending whether or not “convicted felon” also becomes a tag line to describe him.

  38. drumbug71 says: Mar 12, 2010 9:30 AM

    At least Ben is stimulating the economy with all of his legal expenses… :)

  39. tj.52 says: Mar 12, 2010 9:33 AM

    @lichnor:
    So,
    “We all want the bad guys caught, but here is a way to help them avoid prison.”
    Thats great. Thanks.
    Attorneys are scum.

  40. realitypolice says: Mar 12, 2010 9:34 AM

    Ravenmuscle says:
    March 12, 2010 6:50 AM
    Then provide the DNA sample to the authorities and there shouldn’t be any question Mr. Garland.
    ========================
    I don’t understand what the DNA in this particular case would prove. BR has acknowledged “sexual contact” with the woman, so his DNA is going to be all over her. How will the presence of his DNA determine whether the contact was consensual or not?
    The lawyer is denying the request for DNA because he can. A defense attorney’s job is to protect his client, not help the police do their’s.
    Disclaimer: Don’t paint me as some sort of BR apologist. I think he is an immature douche bag. Just trying to keep it real.

  41. realitypolice says: Mar 12, 2010 9:35 AM

    DG0122 says:
    March 12, 2010 8:11 AM
    Ben Roethlisberger= real life Kenny Powers
    ====================
    But much less funny.

  42. khall says: Mar 12, 2010 9:43 AM

    BengalsDouche2, you must have missed the part in the article that said “‘unnamed sources’ say Ben Roethlisberger said…”
    Big difference Einstein!

  43. pfii63 says: Mar 12, 2010 9:44 AM

    lichnor’s right: watch the video. Very good.

  44. iusedtobeteddybayer says: Mar 12, 2010 9:55 AM

    Does the coach have a comment? Who’s the backup?

  45. Junior says: Mar 12, 2010 9:57 AM

    Pretty sure Florio is speaking to guilt or innocence in the court of public opinion, not a court of law.
    Even if he’s not, that’s Ben’s biggest problem right now. Regardless of your opinion of the guy, the fact that he has put himself in this position twice in a short time frame shows he doesn’t have much common sense.

  46. tt0074958 says: Mar 12, 2010 9:57 AM

    Florio,
    I’m not sure why you’re making a big deal about him not providing DNA. If the police really wanted a sample, couldn’t they server him with a warrant for it? Since they apparently haven’t done so, then what does that say to you? Would you care to speculate about that, since you’re speculating about pretty much everything else here?

  47. CapsLockKey says: Mar 12, 2010 10:02 AM

    @DG0122
    “Ben Roethlisberger= real life Kenny Powers”
    Hit the nail right on the head. Don’t think you could find a better comparison.

  48. Ed in NJ says: Mar 12, 2010 10:04 AM

    If Ben hasn’t been charged, why would his lawyer be building a defense? Shouldn’t he be more concerned with no charges being filed instead? And the way to do that is to present whatever “evidence of innocence” he has. So his statement seems like a load of B.S. to me.
    The longer this goes on, the more it sounds like he expects charges are coming. The high-priced lawyer is there to win the court of public opinion. Instead of the media focusing on the reports of the girl’s injuries, the witnesses to her trauma, etc., they act as stenographers for this clown. The goal is to intimidate the local investigators and DA in hopes that they don’t press charges, or, barring that, poison the witnesses and potential jury pool, just like in the Ray Lewis and Kobe Bryant cases.

  49. steveinohio says: Mar 12, 2010 10:05 AM

    the attorney probably has a photo of the girl wearing revealing clothing. that proves his innocents because she was obviously asking for it.
    Rapistberger=scum bag.

  50. 123456789 says: Mar 12, 2010 10:06 AM

    pinkworm, anytime you want to fight me, just let me know. @$$.

  51. Holeinone09 says: Mar 12, 2010 10:07 AM

    Listen up eggheads. As a Steeler fan who has had to put up with all this nonsense from the media and many morons posting here making repetitive stupid jokes, using “rape” and enjoying the embarrassment the Steelers are going through now, guess what? My current opinion is that unless he is convicted, Ben will be the QB of the Steelers this year and for years to come.
    It seems unlikely he will be convicted of anything in a he said-she said case unless there is clear evidence. And therefore, unless there is clear evidence, he will be guilty in the court of public opinion as to his repuation. He will likely never recover from this incident, no matter what.
    I am also convinced he is probably more of an idiot than not, which is not what I thought a few weeks ago. No use ignoring it. He has a huge ego and probably thinks he is better than most. I don’t think he is a saint or an angel, but I also am aware he has done many good deeds and with charities as has been pointed out. All of this puts him squarely in the pack with many other pro athletes until he is CONVICTED of a crime. The list of athletes that have been CONVICTED of crimes in pretty large and includes Lewis, Vick and Stallworth. They are playing football now and took/are taking their reputation lumps.
    At this point, I am not happy with the negative publicity Ben has brought to Steeler nation and the team, but I am learning (from having to listen to many of you) that he is not alone out there in the idiot category that continue to enjoy a life of sports. He should be suspended and fined. And he needs to make significant changes in his life style for his own benefit.
    So, quite frankly at this point I couldn’t give a rat’s ass what he does off the field if he isn’t convicted of something illegal. Unless he is CONVICTED of a crime, which he has not yet even been charged with, most of you haters will have to suffer Ben beating the crap out of your teams for years to come. Because you know he is that good as a QB, better than what most of you have playing for your team. That is the main reason most of you keep posting on and on, like rich, mooch ampats and many others.
    Many thanks to you all for hardening my callouses on how we should be looking at people that are only good for one thing–entertainment. I appreciate the education. That is how I will look at Ben from now on, unless he is CONVICTED of a crime. He is no better than anyone else, and he has warts like everyone.

  52. tomservo24 says: Mar 12, 2010 10:10 AM

    lichnor:
    I saw that video about a year ago, and it truly does change your thinking forever. Ben was an idiot for talking to the police, period, even if he is innocent. Never, never talk to police without a lawyer.

  53. realitypolice says: Mar 12, 2010 10:17 AM

    highjak78 says:
    March 12, 2010 8:46 AM
    If Rapistburger is sooooo innocent he should give his DNA for testing – it’s the only way that douche can halfway “prove” his innocence. He was with a bunch of cops and they can’t cover up his antics! What does that tell you?
    =======================
    Yes of course, anybody accused of a crime should automatically do whatever the police ask of them! What do they have to hide?
    I don’t know whether you really believe the drivel you write or are just taking as a shot at someone you hate, but rights are not something to be taken lightly or denied others just because you don’t like them.
    There are lots of countries in the world where defendants are guilty until proven innocent and are forced to help the prosecution convict them. Does all a favor and move to one of them.

  54. realitypolice says: Mar 12, 2010 10:25 AM

    8man says:
    March 12, 2010 7:36 AM
    He may not have to prove innocence. No charges yet.
    ============================
    He never has to prove his innocence. Read the Bill of Rights.
    BuckFigBen says:
    March 12, 2010 8:08 AM
    He hasn’t been charged yet, so why is he sitting on the evidence? If I had a lawyer saying he had evidence, he had better be holding a press conference and showing the world before I got charged.
    ============================
    Great idea. Let the prosecution know your whole case so they can be better prepared at trial.
    Richm2256 says:
    March 12, 2010 7:58 AM
    So Garland’s plan to stop the bleeding of Ben’s career is to say “We have evidence that supports his inocence”, and then not provide it???
    See above.
    Eight days later, has Roethlisberger looked into a camera and said the simple words “I didn’t assault this woman”?
    No.
    Why not?
    ============================
    Because no one who thinks he’s guilty would believe him and anyone who thinks he’s innocent doesn’t need to hear it. So’s what’s the point? Are you telling me if he came out and said “I didn’t assault this woman”, you would say “well alrighty then, I guess he’s innocent”?
    Stupid.

  55. Deb says: Mar 12, 2010 10:54 AM

    Let’s see …
    Ben’s agent is an AGENT who should have kept his mouth shut. Ben’s criminal defense attorney is doing what a responsible defense attorney would do, which is keeping his client from helping the opposition. You have a RIGHT to remain silent (which includes keeping your bodily fluids/tissue/hair to yourself unless compelled by court order to give them up). Ben’s already admitted sexual contact–the DNA is a formality.
    And, IDIOTS, it’s not Garland’s job to prove Ben’s innocence. It’s the state’s job to prove his guilt. Nor should Garland present any evidence to the contrary in the court of public opinion. Florio knows this. He’s posting to rile up the fools who will say: If he had evidence of Ben’s innocence, he’d provide it!
    God help any of you numbnuts if you’re ever accused of anything. You assume that because you’re innocent, the truth will set you free. It doesn’t work that way in the criminal justice system. Prosecutors can take your truth and twist it to fit their story. Suddenly your truth doesn’t sound like your truth anymore. It’s what you said but not what you meant … hey, wait a minute! Too late.
    But people like Chapnasty2 and Richm2256 aren’t interested in issues of wrongful conviction because they’re too busy salivating over the possibility that a STEELERS player assaulted someone. Interesting way to get your jollies.
    @DogCollar …
    You won’t find anyone on this board more hostile to REAL abusers than I am. But your assertion that Ben will be hated for the rest of his life even if he had consensual sexual contact with this woman is bizarre. Most rational people don’t care what other consenting adults do.

  56. realitypolice says: Mar 12, 2010 10:59 AM

    HUH????? If I was Ben, and my attorney had evidence that will clear me, 100%, with no shadow of doubt, he damn well better present that evidence. The faster that happens, the faster Ben is cleared, and the faster Ben has to stop paying ridiculous attorney fees……
    ===========================
    You’re being more than a little naive. Do you honestly think the police, once confronted with the “evidence” BR’s lawyer says he has, would say “well, golly gee, we better go ahead and close this here case. The man is obviously innocent”.
    Um….no. The best result is that the police actually care what the truth is, in which case they would still take whatever time they wanted to with their investigation. Worse result, they’re out to get him, in which case they would devote whatever resources necessary to discredit the lawyer’s evidence.
    I think if I was BR, I would trust the advice of a lawyer who was good enough to get Ray Lewis off with a slap of the wrist after he lied to the Police in a double-murder case.

  57. realitypolice says: Mar 12, 2010 11:30 AM

    123456789 says:
    March 12, 2010 10:06 AM
    pinkworm, anytime you want to fight me, just let me know. @$$.
    ============================
    Of course. Because nothing says “i’m not a douchebag” like challenging people to fights online.

  58. RAVNATION says: Mar 12, 2010 9:57 PM

    Deb, i can only guess that you are some fat stinky hole that has nothing better to do then write dear ben letters in the hope that you will see him play next fall.
    had ben been associated with any other team, you would have taken the exact opposite position. you are desperate.

  59. Jamson64 says: Mar 14, 2010 8:00 PM

    Florio I see you seem to be unable to keep people from using names like Rapistberger. If that is so then you are scum.

  60. Deb says: Mar 16, 2010 2:39 PM

    @RAVNATION …
    If you wander back this way … I’ve defended Ray Lewis, too, because there was no evidence against him and he was cleared by the courts. And as a Steelers fan, I certainly never hope to see Ray Lewis on the opposite site of the field.
    Someone as small-minded as you could never begin to understand someone like me. I’m many things, but I’ve never been desperate.

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