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Klis: Orton will still be the starter in Denver

K.Orton.jpgWith former first-round pick Brady Quinn now shipped from Cleveland to Denver, there’s a question as to whether Quinn or Kyle Orton will be the starting quarterback for the Broncos.

Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports that the new guy won’t supplant the holdover; per Klis, Orton will start.

Though Orton’s status could change, the decision makes sense, for a couple of reasons.  First, Orton is a restricted free agent, tendered at the first-round level.  His base salary is $2.62 million, nearly four times greater than Quinn’s $700,000 compensation.

Then there’s the fact that Quinn will unlock $5.9 million in 2011 escalators if he takes 70 percent or more of the snaps on offense this season.  By making him the backup, the Broncos are guaranteed to get two seasons out of him at a total payout of a paltry, relatively speaking, $1.4 million.

For the Browns, the move closes the books on one of the worst recent trades since the Cowboys pillaged the Vikings in exchange for Herschel Walker more than 20 years ago.  Cleveland gave up a high second-round pick in 2007 and a first-round pick in 2008 for the ability to pick Quinn.  To the extent that anyone is still interested in trading for Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, that price tag should be kept in mind.

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42 Responses to “Klis: Orton will still be the starter in Denver”
  1. Brewster says: Mar 14, 2010 8:51 PM

    If Klis said it it must be true. He gets his copy directly from the Broncos PR department.

  2. Zero says: Mar 14, 2010 8:53 PM

    If I hear about Quinn’s esclator one more time I am going to shoot myself

  3. dybzinski says: Mar 14, 2010 9:01 PM

    Thanks Opie Savage!

  4. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK 2.0OH! says: Mar 14, 2010 9:01 PM

    R.I.P. Peter Graves

  5. Al Davis' 40 Time says: Mar 14, 2010 9:08 PM

    Good call for Denver.
    They gave up trash to pick him up and he’s almost 2 million dollars cheaper than Simms, who absolutely sucked it up when given the chance.

  6. darrius_heyward-bey-butterfingers says: Mar 14, 2010 9:11 PM

    Say what you want to about Quinn but one thing is for sure- other AFC West teams are gonna have to gameplan for this guy when he becomes the starter. Cover 1, both safeties 2 yards off of line of scrimmage, etc., cuz he’s Cap’n Checkdown!

  7. Indyeagle says: Mar 14, 2010 9:16 PM

    And Orton being the starter is news to whom? Maybe Quinn’s mom thought he was good enough to start, but no one else did.

  8. broncoman224 says: Mar 14, 2010 9:19 PM

    Orton’s not a bad quarterback. He’s just not a superstar. I can honestly say that I’d much prefer having him than Jay Cutler!

  9. nato2424 says: Mar 14, 2010 9:26 PM

    good trade. now lets get marshall locked up longterm 5 years 40 mill?

  10. JohnnyG says: Mar 14, 2010 9:26 PM

    Does this help Broncos fans forget about Cutler or just remind them that they either miss him or should miss him? http://www.hubdub.com/m65840 They sure booed the heck out of him when he took the field with the Bears during preseason game #3 last year and won 27-17 in Denver.

  11. ppdoc13 says: Mar 14, 2010 9:40 PM

    The Browns have been an underachieving team since they returned after a three year hiatus. Their fans have become a bunch of whining weenies. Perhaps the Big Show can turn it around, but he failed miserably in his stint at running the club in Seattle and Mangina is still a douchebag. Sounds like a toxic stew to me.

  12. Lancane says: Mar 14, 2010 9:40 PM

    This is the best that the inept Klis could come up with, really? Yeah, I am sure that McDaniels will bench Quinn, even if he proves to be the better quarterback simply because of money…what idiocy.
    Bowlen wanted a franchise quarterback, we know for a fact that Denver coaches and scouts were talking to several quarterbacks due to be drafted in the upcoming annual draft. Instead of doing so, McDaniels went and got a quarterback he already liked who fit what was needed…and McDaniels wanted Quinn before they even traded for Orton…so now according to Garp ((Klis)) he will bench his first choice to be the Broncos quarterback for his second choice? Does anyone else find this reporting baseless and child-like.
    Why trade two picks, a decent backup running back for a backup quarterback when there are free agents that would cost nothing and could fit the bill…yeah, Klis has shown his intelligence…or lack of.

  13. Clevelander says: Mar 14, 2010 9:45 PM

    Technically, the Browns didn’t give up much for Quinn. They gave Dallas a first and second round pick and received a first round pick. Yeah, he was a bust, but it even comparing it to the Herschel Walker trade is ridiculous. For one thing, if you have a chance to draft a franchise qb, you take it. You can’t fault them for trying.

  14. rx says: Mar 14, 2010 9:48 PM

    Low priced backup with first round potential for a guy who, whether you like him or not, was not going to be playing and a couple throwaway draft picks. Makes tons of sense for Denver. If Orton gets hurt again, I certainly like the idea of Quinn better than Simms. They can groom Quinn and Brandstater in tandem.

  15. Jordon Cooper says: Mar 14, 2010 9:52 PM

    No, it doesn’t help us forget Cutler.
    I watched a couple of games with Quinn in there from two years ago and he looked not bad, including a game he should have won against Denver if the receivers could squeeze the occasional ball tossed into their hands.
    Of course last year he was horrible but it was a new offense with no support from Mangenius and not a lot of talent around him. He has some talent and with some coaching…. of course we said the same thing about Rick Mirer…

  16. FumbleNuts says: Mar 14, 2010 9:56 PM

    If Orton hears a boo, will the the Mighty Quinn step up?

  17. winklebean says: Mar 14, 2010 9:56 PM

    @nato2424
    from what i’ve heard Broncos offered 9.5 mil a year to Marshall last year and he declined.

  18. marktg30 says: Mar 14, 2010 9:57 PM

    Peyton Hillis single-handedly gave the Broncos a running game when they needed him. I think that type of player should be regarded a little more than ‘trash’.

  19. 1137vine says: Mar 14, 2010 10:20 PM

    Take a closer look at those draft choices.. The first one is not even this year. This is a can’t lose for Denver.

  20. 1137vine says: Mar 14, 2010 10:21 PM

    Take a closer look at those draft choices.. The first one is not even this year. This is a can’t lose for Denver.

  21. wyobroncoboy says: Mar 14, 2010 10:27 PM

    They gave up trash to pick him up and he’s almost 2 million dollars cheaper than Simms, who absolutely sucked it up when given the chance.
    Trash?? I will kick your ass if you ever call Peyton Hillis……..”trash” Go back cuddlin with yer cousin/sister/gramama/uncle..

  22. silverreign says: Mar 14, 2010 10:27 PM

    brady quinn wasn’t even that good in college. surrounded by good receivers and receiving TE’s. he should have NEVER been drafted the 1st

  23. KyleOrtonsArm says: Mar 14, 2010 10:28 PM

    damn right he’ll be the starter mofos

  24. Beauregard says: Mar 14, 2010 10:29 PM

    Hillis is not trash. It’s a good pick up fpr the Browns.
    Tough north-south runner who stays out of trouble on and off the field.
    Quinn is a natural fit in Denver. He’ll fit in this system very well. Hopefully he can throw more than 15 yards down field…

  25. realitypolice says: Mar 14, 2010 11:01 PM

    Zero says:
    March 14, 2010 8:53 PM
    If I hear about Quinn’s esclator one more time I am going to shoot myself
    ======================
    Well that’s too bad, we’ll miss you.
    You’ll keep hearing it, because it’s a pretty important point. Pretty damn risky for players to have these sort of clauses, unless they are 100% certain to be instant, long term starters. It gives the team way too much sway over what the player makes. I mean, we aren’t talking about the difference between 1 and 2 million dollars. We’re talking about 1.4m versus 5.9M.

  26. VegasBronco says: Mar 14, 2010 11:08 PM

    Peyton Hillis is a loss, just not that much in this system. Quinn over Simms is big.
    Kudo’s to McD and GMX
    @winklebean..never heard $9.5m to BM. Had to be rumor because BM would take that kind of money.

  27. Howboutdemcowboys says: Mar 14, 2010 11:09 PM

    To darrius_heyward-bey-butterfingers
    Trent Edwards is captain check down not Quinn moron

  28. Tim Couch says says: Mar 14, 2010 11:16 PM

    not for long he won’t.

  29. mwcarolina says: Mar 14, 2010 11:17 PM

    I believe Orton will start, but Quinn will push him and if Orton gets hurt and Quinn plays and stays healthy, he will keep the job.

  30. Dawgpound2009 says: Mar 14, 2010 11:49 PM

    Cleveland and the Rams will battle it out for the first pick in 2011

  31. simonb says: Mar 15, 2010 12:40 AM

    ***it should be noted, that the 2nd round pick that cleveland traded to the cowboys in 2007 was sent to the eagles and was used to pick—– kevin kolb

  32. ben6969 says: Mar 15, 2010 12:50 AM

    How could you forget Ditka trading 2 entire drafts for Ricky…

  33. Thunderbolt says: Mar 15, 2010 1:59 AM

    Kyle Orton will remain the starter in Denver. And Nick Saban will not be the Alabama coach.

  34. DnBrnc says: Mar 15, 2010 3:21 AM

    Orton may be the best option to start the season(unless Quinn is a fast learner of McD’s system), but I think that Brady will be the starter at some point next season. Orton’s days as a Bronco are numbered. He will be in Cleveland next year after Delhomme and Wallace suck up the joint.
    The Browns will make Kyle the short-term starter, and groom Jake Locker or Ryan Mallett behind him. As for Denver, Tom Brandstater will be gone at the start of the season because we are going to draft a better long-term project, like John Skelton, Dan LeFevour, or Johnathan Crompton.

  35. kupski says: Mar 15, 2010 7:36 AM

    With Orton and Quinn, you now have the same scenario that Cleveland did. Difference is, instead of D.A. you have Orton.
    Good luck with mediocrity !

  36. gwinn1952 says: Mar 15, 2010 8:17 AM

    He just needs a decent QB coach and veteran to show him the ropes…..to better watch film, getting rid of ball, making quicker decisions etc. Believe he got neither in Cleveland.

  37. BroncoBourque says: Mar 15, 2010 8:34 AM

    @wyobroncoboy
    Hillis got 13 carries last season and it was questionable whether or not he would even have a roster spot for the coming season. Regardless of what you think about his abilities, to the Broncos he was as good as trash because they were probably going to cut him. The guy was also a 7th round pick, so it’s not like they gave up much to get him in the first place. A good who wasn’t going to play or might have been cut, a 6th round pick 2 drafts from now (bassically nothing) and a conditional pick 3 drafts from now. I’m struggling to think of a trade where a team gave up less for anything, let alone a 25 year former first round pick. If the Eagles got this little for Vick fans in Philly would lose their mind and he doesn’t have near the potential that Quinn has at this point in their careers.

  38. Rick says: Mar 15, 2010 9:43 AM

    Brady Quinn will win the starter’s job and have a great career in Denver

  39. Midway Monster says: Mar 15, 2010 10:29 AM

    broncoman224 says:
    “Orton’s not a bad quarterback. He’s just not a superstar. I can honestly say that I’d much prefer having him than Jay Cutler!”
    HA HA HA HA HA RIGHT!
    And to whichever cat said Hillis is trash I hope you dont consider yourself a real Broncos fan. I am definitely not a Bronco fan, but I am not blind either. Hillis can play my friend.

  40. Uncle Rico says: Mar 15, 2010 10:37 AM

    Another slapdick move by McDaniels in an effort to offset the trade of Cutler. If the Broncos would have acquired Quinn before last season perhaps there would have been some optimism on account of Quinn’s potential, but after 2009 it’s clear Quinn may be worse than Orton, if possible. And given an opportunity, Hillis has showed that he be a productive runner.
    Visit http://www.joshmcdanielssucks.com/, a Denver Broncos online community advocating for the swift termination of Josh McDaniels, or at the very least ensuring McDaniels knows that Denver Broncos fans deserve better than Kyle Orton!

  41. emdub52 says: Mar 15, 2010 11:41 AM

    The 2nd they gave up was used to draft Kevin Kolb and the 1st they gave up was used to draft Felix Jones, 2 picks ahead of Chris Johnson. Way to go Browns, you know how to pick em.

  42. Al Davis' 40 Time says: Mar 15, 2010 4:00 PM

    # JohnnyG says: March 14, 2010 9:26 PM
    Does this help Broncos fans forget about Cutler or just remind them that they either miss him or should miss him? http://www.hubdub.com/m65840 They sure booed the heck out of him when he took the field with the Bears during preseason game #3 last year and won 27-17 in Denver.
    —————
    You know you’re a Bears fan when you brag about preseason.
    And for those who are angry that I called Peyton Hillis trash need to rethink themselves. So what if he rushed for a hundred yards in one game over a year ago?
    I believe PJ Pope was having a monster day against the Bills before he popped his hammy. What about Andre Hall, Selvin Young, Michael Pittman, and Tatum Bell? They all had 100+ yard games with the Broncos!!!
    Oh thats right, Bell and Pittman are in the UFL.
    Hillis isn’t necessarily trash himself, but his value is. The kid screwed up every chance had had last year. Whether it was fumbling kick off returns or getting stuffed at third and short. He no doubt has the potential to be good, but it’s not like he’s Mike Alscott.

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