Now that the Browns have resolved a three-year conundrum regarding Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn by choosing none of the above and replacing them with two guys who aren’t necessarily any better, team president Mike Holmgren isn’t necessarily standing pat.
Speaking at a press conference on Monday, Holmgren said he’ll consider draft a quarterback with the seventh overall selection, and that he’ll consider trading up to get one, per Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
Holmgren also said that he likes Oklahoma Sam Bradford “a lot.”
Though this is the time of the year to roll up pant legs and/or wait for blue eyes to turn brown, Holmgren has been a straight shooter so far. So we’ll believe he’s interested in drafting a quarterback at the top of round one.
Then again, with Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme as the current options, we’d believe it even if Holmgren didn’t say it.
Holmgren, are you sure you don’t want to trade for Vick? Then you could have 3 mediocre QBs!
ANYTHING is better then what we had.
I would give either of these guys the keys to
the offense over D.A. or B.Q.
Quinn never had a fair shot and D.A. had one good year.
I wish them all the best but In Mike We Trust.
[he can't stink any worse then the rest of the sludge we've drug through here].
2 young crappy QBs for 2 old crappy QBs.
‘Atta boy Holmes!!!
Would you believe it if Mangini said it?
I can’t believe the Browns haven’t traded for Troy Smith. Makes no sense.
There is no franchise QB in this draft. So of course Holmgren would want to draft a bust to go with the other two bums he already has.
Still think they should wait and get the hometown kid in Locker next year.
Oh, C’mon. Delhomme and his 20 int’s will be accepted gratefully in Cincy.
Hey, late round QBs (Anderson) can suck just as much as first rounders (Quinn) so why not a couple more? Whatever happened to the one from KY that weighed about three bills? Is he available?
Blindly following the unproven guy…It’s incredible how optimistic Cleveland fans can be after all these years.
Seneca Wallace is much better than you think. The kid is a playmaker. He was just never as cerebral as Hasselbeck.
It’s no small coincidence that Holmgren made a b-line for him once the gates opened up.
Definitely an upgrade for Cleveland.
TROY SMITH!! TROY SMITH!!! TROY SMITH!!!!
I think it’s funny how all the trolls rag on the Browns getting Wallace and Delhomme…
A) as if there were better, available free agent QBs out there to get (and not completely overpay for).
and
B) as if either one of those two scrubs weren’t BETTER than having DA or BQ. They are.
Face it chumps, as sad as Wallace and Delhomme may be, they ARE an upgrade over BQ (bust and always will be) and DA (potential that will never be reached in Cleveland).
Say whatever you want, the total stats for both Wallace and Delhomme blow away the pathetic stats of Anderson and Quinn, even when you take Delhomme’s last two shitty years into account.
And I applaud the Browns for not doing something stupid like overpaying for the on-his-last-legs McNabb or the utterly unproven Kolb.
Prediction – Seneca Wallace starts the whole year and has a better passer rating than Hasselback for the 5th straight year, as well as 40%+ of the league’s starting QBs…..not bad for only having to give up a 7th round pick. He and Holmgren will mentor Sam Bradford who will take over the team in either 2011 or 2012, depending on how well Seneca does.
(Keep in mind, I was the first person on this site to predict Seneca would be traded to the Browns….just sayin’)
Can we please for the love of god stop calling him “The Big Show”? I don’t even know where it came from but this website is the only place I have seen it and it isn’t accurate and sounds comlpetely dumb.
I don’t know. St. Louis, Washington and Seattle all have their eyes on QBs. They’d have to trade places with St. Louis in order to make sure they got the pick. That’s going to cost a lot.
they better NOT be done!!! Delhomme and Wallace is a combo that has ZERO long term potential at all.
A QB in the draft isn’t the story, the story is only if the Browns stay pat at #7 and take one or if they trade up higher than #7 to get one… it’s inevitable that they DO get one in those three days though
With all the draft picks the walrus has, he’s probably considering trading up for Bradford. But that won’t happen with the Lambs wanting Bradford. So, the walrus better draft real well, and not pick guys like Veikune or Robinskie
He also said he would consider lots of other options at number 7.
First off, Holmy is going to draft a QB.Second, Bradford is perfect for the WCO.
Suddenly I feel alot more comfortable with Al Davis in charge
I’m gonna say it, and I can’t believe that this garbage gets printed because anyone with half a brain knows it:
Unless you’re Mike Ditka, 98 percent of the time when somebody makes a comment like this, it’s a smokescreen or flat-out lie.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllll-lllll!! Well, its the Big Showwwww!!! lol
fonetik: Why don’t you stop riding Vick’s jock strap and get on with your life! LOL
trade away, get bradford, teach him to play the style, …..prediction: new HC and OC by halloween. It’s close to the best time of year to be a browns fan, hope springs up……reality sets in……raperbooger is in trouble.
just sayin’ trade big baby and our #1 and a couple 3′s to the lambs…take bradford and run, draft all defense with the rest. How much fun is that!
I can understand getting rid of Anderson and Quinn. But I don’t get signing Delhomme. Maybe he will be the comeback player of year, I hope so.
My guess is the Browns QB conundrum has remained unchanged – unless they trade up and get Sam Bradford.
Mike… Bring Troy Smith home, that will solve everything!
This is a little off topic but in the early 90s when the first “Melrose Place” was on my wife (at the time) used to like to watch it and I would watch the opening credits with her just so I could make up “funny” middle names for the actors in the cast.
My favorites were Grant “No” Show and Doug “Idiot” Savant.
I think it was too early to give up on Quinn. I would have kept him and Delhomme to work with, and try and draft another QB or something… but to go with only S. Wallace, and Jake… hmmm not sure about that… I mean, I’d go with Quinn and Jake over Wallace and Jake… Wallace has proved over and over he is not an NFL QB
que blue eyed devil… with his racist comments about the conspiracy of having 2 white qb’s rather than picking up vick *eyes roll*
He’ll draft a QB in round 2 or 3. Holmgren has never drafted a QB in round 1, ever. Pike, McCoy, someone. The drafted QB will ride 3rd on the QB list and learn.
The Browns are MAYBE a 7 win team next year and 8 the year after. Delhomme can run this for 2 years. Remember, the Browns are building a football organization, (finally) not just a football team.
I remember the early Steelers teams, horrible. Remember how a trip to New England meant a win for sure. Those two organization built foundations that are bigger than any one player or coach. That’s what Mike Holmgren is attempting to do. Give him time.
It took a long time for this team to become what it is, it’s not going to change overnight. The good news is the fans just want to competitive. Nobody in Cleveland is asking for more than that right now.
In Holmgren we trust….
Seneca Wallace will be better than fine. He will be good. Not superduper great. But really good. (those are technical scouting terms.)
Keep Delhomme. Ed Reed will feel like a WR.
Make an offer for Troy!
Like clockwork – the calls for Troy Smith.
Typical Browns fan, a third string NFL QB is the answer just because he played for the Buckeyes.
Mike, you really are the King of Snark. I mean you really are. Louis Black isn’t half as snarky as you.
Of course, Holmgren will consider drafting a quarterback. He’ll consider every position. In the 7th spot, everyone would.
However, I don’t believe he’ll be trading up from the 7th spot, for anyone.
Although, the Browns have accumulated enough draft picks for 2010 to do whatever the hell they want to do, and then some.
I think seneca wallace is not a bad QB. He’ll probably be the starter next year.
unless they trade up for Bradford (which i can NOT see happening), the Browns will either draft Clausen (if he falls) or use a 2nd rounder on McCoy or wait a year and get Mallet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL6YxijNweI
Nothing needs to be said…the video explains everything
Troy Smith has a HUGE heart and is a baller. He never had a fair shot in Baltimore and would be an automatic fan favorite in Cleveland. Do I like him because he was a Buckeye? Of course, but he’s also from Cleveland and has done some pretty good work w/at least one of the Browns.
DO NOT move up to draft a qb. There’ll be options later on. The Browns have 12 picks and need help in too many other places. Because of the possibility of a lockout next year this daft is loaded.
Given that they are in the midst of a major rebuilding, it would be crazy for the Browns to give up what they would have to give up to move up high enough to pick Bradford. And if the Rams decide to take Bradford at #1, then there is probably no package of picks they could put together to get Bradford.
The Browns were going to go after Vick, but they were afaid he was going to murder the dog pound!
NO WAY they draft a QB…we need to many other things especially Defense! and especially after last yrs debacle of a draft and missin out on all those Defensive players.we will not draft a QB with our first pick….maybe one of our 3rds but i wouldnt waste that one either
Mark this down: At the number three pick, the Bucs will wait to see if Suh somehow falls to them. If he doesn’t, the Bucs will trade the pick to the Cleveland Holmgrens, picking up their number seven pick and a second rounder (or something of value).
First of all, Troy Smith sucks.
Actually, that is really all I want to say, other then, he isn’t coming to Cleveland(thank God).
Hey trickbunny- BINGO, dude! It was definitely time to m0ve on and despite what other guys are saying, both Delhome and Wallace bring things to the team- familiarity with the West Coast and Holmgen’s system (Wallace) and veteran, winning leadership (Delhome, despite his recent issues). Delhome is a good pick to mentor and teach a rookie QB, and I’m sure they’ll draft one this year, whether a first rounder or mid-round guy. I’d like to see us grab a couple of solid defenders in the first 2 rounds and find a QB in the 3rd, if possible.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As big as a Browns fan that I have always been and always will be, I think it’s amazingly retarded of all the lame asses on here calling for Troy Smith?
You guys hated to see Quinn go, saying that he didn’t get a fair shake, blah blah blah… but you think Troy Smoth will be the answer?!?!?!?
Why, because he has a crapload more experience in the league then BQ has? Think before you speak homers!
Delhomme and/ or Wallace will be competant until Holms and Heckert find their guy.
you would honestly think in Cleveland right now that we just traded Peyton Manning with the way everyone is going on. Amazing. At least we picked up a guy in Delhomme that’s done something in this league before.
This team sucked ass last year. WTF do Browns fans want, the same team every year hoping that one day it will all come together?
Get a clue kiddies.
For all of you Clown fans that want Troy Smith, we would love you to give a 5th round pick for him. He sucks. He has a strong but inaccurate arm. He is a clubhouse cancer that has a distorted self value.
And for the delude fan Craigja who thinks that the Clowns are a 7 or 8 win team, I would really like some of whatever it is that he is smoking.
The best strategy for a team that needs help in all areas is to simply take the best player available with their pick. That is exactly what they should do.
deebballer says:
March 15, 2010 5:37 PM
Blindly following the unproven guy…It’s incredible how optimistic Cleveland fans can be after all these years.
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We’ve been through just about anything that can be thrown at us, down to a move of our team by a bad businessman only to watch it win the super bowl a few years later. It’s not blind optimism, it’s called shellshock.
# Brownie says: March 15, 2010 5:37 PM
(Keep in mind, I was the first person on this site to predict Seneca would be traded to the Browns….just sayin’)
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Well, lets just go ahead and print this out and put it right up on the fridge then. on a site where countless people, including the authors, make wild ass guesses as far as to what will happen in the future, you where able to guess right. Maybe you should quit your day job and just buy that 1 powerball ticket that will make you a millionaire, tell you what, you tell me the winning numbers, and ill split it with you.
that would be like predicting that mangini would have brought in some guys from the jets when he went to the browns (he did) or that rex ryan would have brought some guys from balitmore (he did) or that chilly would bring some guys from philly (he did) of that wade would bring some guys from san diego (he did) or that pretty much any person moving from one team to another that is in contact frequently with the players, would bring someone along that he thought was a good idea. WHAT A F-ING GENIUS!!!
(i was the first to point this out, just saying) – Douche
I still think the browns are targeting a qb that is currently on an nfl roster. Of course Mcnabb and kolb jump out, but the show may be waggin the dog on that one.
I’m seeing Berry at #7 and wouldnt be suprised if he takes Tebow in a later round.
First of all Florio, wouldn’t the browns have to give up something to move up? What do they have that anyone wants? And those of you clamoring for Troy Smith, I have a question. What has Troy Smith ever done in the NFL?
REALLY tired of hearing how Quinn never had a real shot. C’mon – dude was in town for THREE YEARS and still couldn’t clearly separate himself from DA! If he had shown ANYTHING semblance of accuracy (not a hallmark of his in college btw), he’d be on the squad.
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Citizen Strange says:
March 15, 2010 5:57 PM
This is a little off topic but in the early 90s when the first “Melrose Place” was on my wife (at the time) used to like to watch it and I would watch the opening credits with her just so I could make up “funny” middle names for the actors in the cast.
My favorites were Grant “No” Show and Doug “Idiot” Savant.
– add to previous –
Oh, I almost forgot Andrew “Shoo Fly” Shue
i like how everyone is quick to hate the browns, say we will never be good, and pray for troy smith, say delhomme and wallace are terrible pick ups, say Cleveland is a slum…but the truth is as a resident of Cleveland i can personally say it is a great city despite what an article or poll in a magazine says.yes, like all states throughout this great country, it has its downfalls but it is a city with blue collar workers with a strong passion and tradition for football. as far as browns being terrible, as they are year in and year out since 99 due to bad coaching and ownership, the one thing about sports is anything is possible, rookies can make impacts their second season, veterans can make comebacks, things get turned around, expect the unexpected. ANYTHING is possible, ask the saints
Do you really think Brett Farve is going to the Browns, My guess is if he does come back to play it will be with the Vikings they i believe have the best chance to be in the superbowl,,, Go Browns
Troy Smith. Really. And will all the retards out there just STFU with all the Vick-Dawg Pound crappy jokes.
cizzie4shizzie says:
March 15, 2010 5:31 PM
There is no franchise QB in this draft. So of course Holmgren would want to draft a bust to go with the other two bums he already has.
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Like you know what a francjise QB looks like.
bradford is the real deal.
Turd.
If Clausen is available when the Browns pick the Big Show will physically run up to the podium, push Goddell off the stage, and make the selection himself.
@Bubba1
I’m with ya on Berry at #7 unless one of the big DL’s falls that far (stranger things have happened)
I think it will be Dan LeFeveur in the 3rd round though. Maybe Colt McCoy in the 2nd.
Troy Smith is the answer!
…only if the question is, what lame-ass local favorite can the Browns bring in next to be a hopeless distraction, now that we finally dumped Quinn.
Does “big show” refer to his girth?
I hope Holmgren isnt seriously considering taking a QB that high in the draft, Eric Berry if he is there, a QB later in the draft.
He’s done acquiring QB’s… until he trades up in round one to get Bradford.
TTTTTTThats all, Folks!
Bradford will go to the Crams #1 and Claussen @ 4 to washington. Eric Berry would be a nice pick even if they have to move up a spot or two to take him . I would much rather have Berry than Haden. Knowing the Browns, they will trade down rather than up. Taylor Mays would be a good choice trading down.
I wouldn’t give you a steaming pile of deer $#@+ for Colt Mccoy or Tim Tebow either. Pike, Skelton or Brown would make sense later on in the draft.
@Dawgpound2009 – I couldn’t agree more. I like Sneed later in the draft too. Also even if Claussen is there I don’t want him at 7. Berry is my favorite in the draft for the Browns.
For people calling for Troy Smith, seriously what is the deal here? Browns fans will give NO chance to an unproven QB. Look at Quinn and how quickly people were calling for pulling the plug. Now look at Aikmen and Peytom Manning’s first few seasons. Noone was calling for their jobs because they knew they had to give them time to develop. Our fans arent willing to do that. Our option is always going to be proven QB’s that can win now because as 100% into it all of our fans are. Only about 50% of them use reason when looking at the team.