Montana says Favre is playing coy to avoid training camp

Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Montana thinks he has Brett Favre figured out.

Favre, Montana says, has already decided to return to the Minnesota Vikings for the 2010 season. But Favre doesn’t want to go through offseason workouts, minicamps, organized team activities, training camp and all the other rough stuff that NFL players have to do from March through August, so that’s why — in Montana’s view — Favre hasn’t announced yet whether he’s playing.

“He says he’s not sure [about playing] because he doesn’t want to go to training camp. He’s smart,” Montana told Arash Markazi of ESPNLosAngeles.com. “I’m sure he already has that agreement with them. Nine chances out of 10 they already know and they’ve already had this whole conversation and they should just let everybody know because they know he’s going to come back.”

Montana says Favre doesn’t want to put himself through any sweltering August workouts when he could be relaxing at home. But Montana also says Favre ought to know that he could just show up at the Vikings’ camp and tell the coaches to take it easy on him.

“He knows he’s going to come back, but the reason they don’t say anything is because he doesn’t want to go through training camp,” Montana said. “If he didn’t have to go through training camp, his decision would already be made, but he should know by now going to training camp isn’t going to be hard. They’d never make it hard on him.”

Montana doesn’t think Favre will have any trouble showing up in time for the end of the preseason and shaking off the rust.

“It’s easy once you know an offense and have been there for so many years,” Montana said. “All you really need is a couple quarters in a game and to get hit a couple times to get back in tune. You can get a lot of the other stuff in practices. It’s just getting used to that movement and feel of the game. You can easily do it if you’ve played enough years.”

131 responses to “Montana says Favre is playing coy to avoid training camp

  1. Montana is right…… I wish I could just show up to work when I wanted to.. I a a Farve fan he is great but he should show up by Earlu August anyway.. Go vikes……………..

  2. In other breaking news, water is wet, fire is hot, the earth is round, and the Queens have an empty trophy case.

  3. 1) Obviously true – he did it last 2 years
    2) He deserves it!! why tire him out??
    hes a hall of famer and still ontop of his game at 40!!

  4. Joe: He’s playing coy because he is a prima donna who wants to make sure that people are always talking about him. He joneses on seeing his name in print and on the Internet and hearing it on TV and radio. I would say he is such a girl, but that wouldn’t be nice to girls everywhere.

  5. I agree that’s what he is doing because Favre is a prima donna and wants treated differently from everyone else on the team. But I guess if people continue to kiss his hind side he can continue playing his little games.
    Now if only the media would completely ignore him until he makes a decision he could learn no one gives a crap what he wants to do.

  6. crap,montanta,as good as he is, i would be surprised if he didnt charge whomever recorded this statment 100 bucks[he’d sell his pinkie for a buck],but whether he is right or not,who the hell is he to think anybody cares what he thinks,im not even a vikes fan,but didnt he miss all of last offseason,and didnt he come in and have like his best season ever!!,like 33TDs and only 7 INTs!?!?,montana still to this day cant stand being out of the limelight,who cares what he thinks,i hope favre plays till he is 63,that would be something

  7. I said before Favre signed last year that if Farve signed and happened to have a good year (he had an outstanding year) that it would become an issue as time goes on. “Veteran’s” depending on years of service would benefit by having to spend less time in training camp.

  8. Gee Joe…. Ya think???
    In other “breaking news”. Experts say weather
    in Arizona this summer expected to be hot and dry!!!!!!
    News at 11.

  9. REALLY! it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that!
    and as an added bonus he gets to hear his name on espn a whole lot more.

  10. Gee, ya think? In other news, water is wet.
    This is precisely why the Packers finally said “enough” and moved him along. While Favre may not need it, the rest of the team might.
    Glad he’s the Vikings problem now.

  11. This is just NOW being figured out? Farve laziness/indecision has been rooted in his ego-centric desire to avoid training camp for three years now. This should be absolutely no surprise.

  12. The Vikings are being coy as well. They don’t want to over pay for Farve’s replacement, so the illusion that he is coming back for sure is being floated. However internally I believe the thought is that around 15 April, the Vikings will get the assurance from Farve that he is coming back or they will trade their 1st round pick for McNabb and cut Farve. McNabb will then be able to reup with the Vikes and Childress will have his qb for the next four years.
    If Farve is cut, will anyone sign him or need him to start?

  13. I agree with Montana 90%. But 10% of me thinks that Favre knows he doesn’t have to do training camp if he doesn’t want to, and that he hasn’t committed to playing yet because he really doesn’t know what he wants to do.

  14. Another article about BF without BF making a comment but yet rednecks will again call him a media whore. Perhaps someday the rednecks will figure it out that it isn’t BF that seeks the attention but it is the media that knows the fans will read anything with BF’s name attached to it.

  15. Wow- Montana is almost as good as Florio, execpt he has real NFL experience. Just like PFT he has based his whole idea on something based on speculation, without talking to the source.

  16. Wow, he just said what everyone else all ready knows. He will play these games to avoid training camp… no surprise here.

  17. DUH!
    I’ve been saying this since Favre left Green Bay! Why would a 40+ year old want to put himself through the rigors of two-a-days and training camp?!?!?
    This isn’t just a “Favre” thing, btw…this happens every year with a number of seasoned veterans.

  18. The same all about me player he’s always been. What if all the rest of the team had such a selfish attitude?

  19. I’ve said this for years, as have many people, so Joe is a bit slow on this observation. Favre wants to play football, but doesn’t want all the responsibilities that come with the offseason. So he conveniently “can’t decide” until late in the offseason once all the minicamps are done.

  20. I don’t doubt for one second that Montana is correct in his assessment of the Favre situation. I do disagree with his opinion that Favre and the Vikings have a deal in place and that they should come forward with it. I don’t think there is a deal in place because the Vikings are doing what the Packers should have done all along, let him decide when he is ready.
    If there was a deal, I also don’t think coming forward with the information is the best idea. You can have a different set of rules for him but you can’t come out and tell everyone. That would just set you up to have other players wanting the same deal and/or resenting Favre for getting a deal like that himself.
    At the end of the day nothing is going to be gained by having Favre in camp, if anything not having there is a good thing because it gives the other QBs more reps.

  21. The Lord thy Farve hath spoken! “Mine joints and bones creaketh, and thy cruel words harketh back to yonder rookie times, before thy Purple incarnation….SILENCE unbelievers! Or you shall be smoten with icey hotteth and benneth gay.”

  22. ‘Favre doesn’t want to put himself through any sweltering August workouts (with the rest of his teammates) when he could be relaxing at home’. A guy worth worshiping FOF.

  23. joe, why don’t you just stop the speculation. you are beginning to sound petty. you know he has done all he can to put you in his rear view mirror. you wish you could have played longer at this level and now you sound petty and spiteful. if you think you can change his mind by speculating, we can see right through your sorry backside. stick to what you do best…..oops, i guess i do not know what it is! maybe bitching.

  24. Really…Joe figured this out by himself…wow….who says that Notre Dame degree is worthless….amazing…

  25. The Favre could show up the day after Labor Day and Childress would still kiss his ass in gratitude…

  26. No. You’re kiddin us, right ? Montana is just brilliant. None of us knew that before now.
    Dude. Is Montana just figurin out what we’ve known for years ?

  27. Hey Super. There you go.
    Your comment to me about training camp is BS.
    I’ll take a hall of fame qb’s opinion on it ove yours any day.
    ———————————–
    “It’s easy once you know an offense and have been there for so many years,” Montana said. “All you really need is a couple quarters in a game and to get hit a couple times to get back in tune. You can get a lot of the other stuff in practices. It’s just getting used to that movement and feel of the game. You can easily do it if you’ve played enough years.”
    ————————————–
    That says it all right there!

  28. Talk about stating the obvious, Joe Montana is only saying what everyone in the Viking’s organization already knows, condones, and enables.
    If you could make the case that attending OTA’s and training camp would result in Favre not throwing INT’s in Championship games at the most inopportune moments, then I could see where the Vikings should demand that Favre be present. But Favre has a rich history in playoff performances in the last 10 years and none of it is good. To the casual outside observer, the most amazing aspect is that the Viking fan base somehow thinks that none of it applies to them although they got their first taste of reality in the Saints game. Even more amazing is that after the Saints game, the fans want him back for a repeat performance. Trust me when I tell you, 2010 isn’t going to end well for the Vikings should Favre return. They are much better off trying to figure out a long term solution at QB instead of wasting another year. The goal should be to get a marquee QB in place for 2012 to help sell season tickets in LA.

  29. Joe probably nailed it…nothing wrong in it either as far as I’m concerned…someone with his accomplishments deserves a little special treatment
    its far better to spend an extra month with his family…especially during the summer when his kids are out of school
    but it would be nice if Farve/Vikings had the balls to just admit this & spare us all the drama & media BS of the past 4 or 5 years

  30. I’m a Packer fan and loved when Favre played for us, but this is always something that’s bothered me. How does it HURT Brett (and the team) for him to show up at training camp to spend more time working with his young receivers? Sure, you can point that he has great chemistry as shown by last year’s results, but would it get any worse if he showed up? Like Montana says, even if he shows up, it’s not like they’re going to make it hard on him.
    It seems too much like a “hired gun” for him to only show up once the season starts. I don’t think he’ll ever shake the perception that he wasn’t the best teammate and this is one of those reasons.

  31. The coaches and players of the Vikings have already said they don’t care if he comes to training camp…so I would hope that’s not the reason he hasn’t announced his decision. He should still show up to training camp for the fans, even if it is just for one day and he doesn’t do any work outs.

  32. Nice to know guys like Montana can see Favre for the phony he is. Favre just uses this retirement stuff because he thinks it gives him a justifiable excuse to miss camp while his teammates sweat and work. A real leader and pro’s pro that Brat Favre. But I disagree with Montana when he says Favre “is smart” for doing it……..as his “retirement” shennanigans are what got him booted out of Green Bay and effectively destroyed his image and reputation.

  33. madsqgrdn says:
    March 17, 2010 10:49 AM
    That’s why Montana will never be a winner
    ————————————————-
    I hope this was a joke, otherwise it is definately one of the dumbest comments I’ve ever read.

  34. We’re talking about practice, not the game, not the game. We’re talking about practice.
    How the hell can I make my teammates better by being at practice?!?

  35. He’s avoiding PED testing… and giving himself time to flush the stuff a la Roger Clemens. He’ll unretire once his urine is clean… just like the last few years.

  36. It’s sad to think that this is the state of professional sports. A guy literally skipping training camp is completely okay with this organization.
    Went to my friend’s daughter’s 8th grade traveling basketball game this year. Halfway through the first quarter, I asked where the scoreboard was. “Oh, they don’t keep score,” says my friend’s wife, “they’re all winners.” Took every amount of will power I had to not drive my car into the side of the building.
    We have become the biggest pussbag, entitled, coddled nation from Brett Favre to the kindergartners on the playground. Embarrasing.

  37. Who does Joe Montana think he is? Talking this way about the greatest regular season QB of all time? I mean, really Joe, you think you know so much about the QB position just becasue you won 4 Superbowls….geez…get a life Joe. Hands off the prima donna Joe…take your 4 Superbowl rings and shut up!

  38. You don’t put 20 year veteran 40 year old QBs through 6 months of off season programs. I don’t care what the Favre haters say, you just don’t do that if you want that player to last the whole season. I DO think he needs to be there for the start of training camp. But all the OTAs and minicamps, he doesn’t need to be there. Last year proved that.

  39. why does favre deserve to do this again? because he won one superbowl in the mid 90’s…please he should have to go through training camp and workouts like every other player in the league..he makes a mockery of the league.

  40. “muffinman says:
    The Lord thy Farve hath spoken!”
    Ummmm. No. Montana hath spoken. Favre remaineth closemouthed and shy of word.

  41. Montana is not “just figuring this out”. The problem here is that some douche of a quarterback forces everyone to repeat the same storylines every offseason. Which is exactly Montana’s point. Favre needs to come out of the closet, admit that he is a diva, and ask his teammates to accept the fact that he is going to be treated different.

  42. Favre, Favre, Favre, Favre, Favre, Favre, Favre, year after year after year that’s all we hear about from February until he decides to play. One more thing I hear people saying Peyton Manning only has an average playoff record, with only one superbowl win, well Brett’s playoff record is 12-11 with only one superbowl win!!

  43. “Gee, ya think? In other news, water is wet.
    This is precisely why the Packers finally said “enough” and moved him along. While Favre may not need it, the rest of the team might.
    Glad he’s the Vikings problem now. ”
    Hes still a problem for Green Bay

  44. It’s so obvious he’s coming back. Would he really be making appearances on Lenno to promote his retirement? He enjoys hearing about himself more than everybody likes to talk about him. I personally hope he does come back (95% certain he is). It will be the perfect obstacle for the Packers to overcome on their way to the Super Bowl. Sorry Queens. You guys should have sealed the deal last year (again)… You missed your window…(again).

  45. I love how everyone is ragging on Montana with “duhs” and “captain obvious” for simply answering a question correctly and honestly. It’s not like Joe called up ESPN and told them he’s got inside information in figuring out the mystery behind Brett Favre.

  46. Some people will probably excuse this behavior with some excuse like, “he’s a veteran and doesn’t need it”. While this isn’t entirely untrue, setting a double standard for your team is rediculous. Adrian Peterson is a veteran, why doesn’t he get to stay home? What about Pat Williams, he’s almost as old as favre. You can absolutely bet that there is much grumbling going on between minnis veterans. Just be a team player Brett and spare us your “aww shucks” bs because we all know its phony.

  47. let the ARI Fleischer koolaid sipping fans from Green bay talk how favre is a diva and favre is a baby and favre is this and that… it is funny how he was ‘the toughest man in america before he left the packers…..’
    the $5M per year is the most effective money green bay ever paid to someone – congrats mr. fleischer.. MORONS

  48. Notice the full quote from Montana was “he’s smart”. I’m sure people will use this quote as a way to say Montana is criticizing Favre, when he’s actually complimenting him and not blaming him at all. At no point does Joe say or imply that it is WRONG for Brett to sit out anything, because he knows Brett is old and can step in in August and play 100%.

  49. We love Favre in MN. As long as he shows up for the regular season, we don’t care and the way he played last year I’m sure the players don’t care either. To the rest of you haters… tough! 🙂 🙂

  50. Favre is juicing, that is why he doesn’t want to come back. Same reason he reported late last year. He was on the HGH to heal his bicep and now he’s addicted once again.

  51. In other news…… brent thinks he’s gonna take a sh1t today, but he’s not too sure.
    Check back at PFT for all the baby brent news………. GAURANTEED!!!!

  52. CaptainFantastik,
    You want to talk about a phony? Don’t look any further then your boy Roth, the king of dirtbags, rapist, prima donas, and cockyness. But hey, at least he didn’t retire and come back, eh? No, that is a hanging offense. doucebag

  53. madsqgrdn says:
    March 17, 2010 10:49 AM
    That’s why Montana will never be a winner
    ———————————————————
    Congrats! You officially have a commanding lead for the 2010 Idiot of the Year award (Plaxico Burress took this award in 09). Thee dumbest thing i have heard in a long long time.
    More news on the attention whore! What a JACKASS! Pretty sure Brent dont wanna show up for training camp cause he will end up having to throwing the ball to his own teammates and we all know he prefers throwing it to the other team.
    Congrats to the Who Dat nation! Your team earned it!

  54. No way! And all this time I thought he was really having a tough time making up his mind.
    Hey Joe…here’s your sign.

  55. This isn’t just a “Favre” thing, btw…this happens every year with a number of seasoned veterans.
    Please provide a list of veterans for our perusing………

  56. madsqgrdn says: March 17, 2010 10:49 AM
    That’s why Montana will never be a winner
    ==========================================
    Wow, that’s simply mind blowing.
    Hopefully for you, you’re just a completely ignorant 12 year old because if your not that young, you are truly some kind of dumb.

  57. Look up ‘narcicist” in the dictionary (Vikings fans, that’s a book with lots of words and few pictures, you may want to seek some help) and you will find a picture of Favre holding a picture of himself.

  58. Stand up, be a man and say you don’t want to go to training camp. Though maybe some training camp will help you not throw yet another INT with the season on the line like you have for the past three seasons straight.

  59. Glad he’s the Vikings problem now,,,WOW spartachris,did yo really type that,,didnt number 4 totally dismantle the packers twice last year and will prolly do it twice more this year i would have to say,no he is still a problem for green bay,,dummy

  60. Come on – do you really think Favre has to do all this to report late? uh…no. He’d just tell the Vikes – I’m reporting late.
    Montana should go back to his job of sellign insurance and shut the hell up

  61. Yes! Farve is coming back!
    He’s gonna have another great season!!
    He’s gonna carry his team to the playoffs!
    He’s gonna seek revenge on the Saints!
    He’s gonna throw a terrible interception in the Superdome and blow the whole thing – AGAIN!!
    Vikings fans will blame somebody else – AGAIN!!!
    Ha-Ha-Ha!!!! LMAO!!!

  62. footballisfun says:
    March 17, 2010 11:36 AM
    We’re talking about practice, not the game, not the game. We’re talking about practice.
    How the hell can I make my teammates better by being at practice?!?
    —————————–


  63. chickenragnar says:
    March 17, 2010 11:26 AM
    Hey Super. There you go.
    Your comment to me about training camp is BS.
    I’ll take a hall of fame qb’s opinion on it ove yours any day.
    ———————————–
    “It’s easy once you know an offense and have been there for so many years,” Montana said. “All you really need is a couple quarters in a game and to get hit a couple times to get back in tune. You can get a lot of the other stuff in practices. It’s just getting used to that movement and feel of the game. You can easily do it if you’ve played enough years.”
    ————————————–
    That says it all right there!
    ———
    As you should because I like everyone else on here am a football idiot. But Montana’s looking at this from the perspective of a QB. Crack the surface on this one and look at it from the perspective of the rest of his teammates sweating it out in Mankato. While Favre relaxes at his ranch in AC until he deems it fit to come to Eden Prairie.

  64. Of course this is obvious. But it is still nice to finally hearing someone who is high profile be willing to say it.

  65. superbowl says:
    March 17, 2010 12:05 PM
    let the ARI Fleischer koolaid sipping fans from Green bay talk how favre is a diva and favre is a baby and favre is this and that… it is funny how he was ‘the toughest man in america before he left the packers…..’
    ————————————-
    Only person I ever heard call him that was his wife, while she was giving one of the most embarassing interviews I have ever seen. When asked how a woman could become a leader in the fight against breast cancer she said “Marry an NFL quarterback.” Ouch. Haven’t seen her out front of any pink ribbon rallies since.

  66. Yep and a lot of the vets said they don’t care when he shows up, as long as he does……
    But, you, who self state that you know nothing, have said ” that is just thier public stance”.
    Have you been to a Vikings training camp?
    Do you talk regularly with the Vikes veteran players?
    No, you haven’t, and no, you do not.
    I’m fairly certain that, with that many players on a team, that if there were or was a problem with it, it would be heard about.
    Nice try though. I’ll still take Montana’s word for it though, and those Vikes vets that were quoted as saying it isn’t a problem.
    As I see it, the only ones with the problem with it, are Packer fans. Why is that? he’s going on year 3 of being gone from your team, why do you care?
    Obsessive much?

  67. Doesn’t matter if he shows up in April or August, he’s still going to make the same mistake that will cost his team when it matters the most…he’s only been doing it for about a decade now. No amount of age, experience, reps, rest, film watching, free agent pickups, none of it would have prevented him from throwing across his body in New Orleans, or throwing to the 1 covered receiver out of 5 in the 07 Title Game against the Giants. Period.
    Funny that Montana is talking about it…he showed up in the biggest games. When did he ever cost his team a close playoff game with a boneheaded mistake?

  68. jimicos says:
    March 17, 2010 12:40 PM
    footballisfun says:
    March 17, 2010 11:36 AM
    We’re talking about practice, not the game, not the game. We’re talking about practice.
    How the hell can I make my teammates better by being at practice?!?
    —————————–



    —————————————
    jimicos, Adam-Chris…
    Hilarious, never seen that before.

  69. haha For all of those who bit on the Montana winner comment , congratulations you are dumber than dirt

  70. This is to the guy who posts as fatso, you were talking about someone named Brent Favre? Is that Brett Favre’s brother? Funny I’ve been watching football my whole life, and have never heard of Brent Favre!! Word of advice fatso, you should probably know people’s names before you post opinions about them, I’m sure Brent Favre would tell you the same thing!!

  71. “Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Montana thinks he has Brett Favre figured out.”
    I think Montana is the last to know!
    And- “Another article about BF without BF making a comment but yet rednecks will again call him a media whore. Perhaps someday the rednecks will figure it out that it isn’t BF that seeks the attention but it is the media that knows the fans will read anything with BF’s name attached to it.”
    THANK YOU! Brett doesn’t care if anyone talks about him. It’s the media that you need to complain about for making something out of nothing time and time again!

  72. chickenragnar says:
    March 17, 2010 11:26 AM
    I’ll take a hall of fame qb’s opinion on it over yours any day.
    __________________________________
    Yeah….me too. How about this one.
    “I think he has been a great flamboyant quarterback, but he has made more stupid plays than any great quarterback that I’ve ever seen. Look at his final game in a Packers uniform. He blew that game against the Giants. He’s playing against Eli Manning(notes), I love Eli Manning, but he’s still not a great quarterback. He’s not Peyton yet, or Tom Brady(notes). He’s just a guy. And they’re (Packers) are playing at home, and they’re in a tight situation, they went to overtime and he (Favre) throws the interception that allows them (the Giants) to come back and win the game. He has done that and driven his coaches crazy all of his career.”
    -signed, Fran Tarkenton.

  73. Jordany,
    “Brent” is what people in Wisconsin call Brett. It is because we will “never forget him.” Next time get your shit straight before you comment on somebodys post. YOU SOUND LIKE AN IDIOT.

  74. Well Chicken it’s just like any other work place. The best salesman getting preferential treatment still stirs the pot internally. The boss doesnt even know sometimes. Montana stated the obvious. What Favres intention are. We all knew that. We are arguing two different points.

  75. ..and these comments were made by a HOF QB…that actually WENT TO TRAINING CAMP EVERY YEAR! So how the hell would he know how capable Brett will be when trying to walk-on in August. Speculate, fine. Predict…well, we all know how well that works don’t we?

  76. Okay what does “we will never forget him” have to do with calling him Brent? I’m not from Wisconsin d-bag at least expalin it!!

  77. Any Gator fans on here? I’m just wondering how Tom Tebow looked at his pro-day, do people in Florida call him Tom because “they will never forget him”

  78. jordanv says:
    March 17, 2010 1:51 PM
    This is to the guy who posts as fatso, you were talking about someone named Brent Favre? Is that Brett Favre’s brother? Funny I’ve been watching football my whole life, and have never heard of Brent Favre!! Word of advice fatso, you should probably know people’s names before you post opinions about them, I’m sure Brent Favre would tell you the same thing!!
    ————————–
    http://carts.undergroundshirts.com/prod_img/position_1/412_48.jpg
    It was clearly intentional.

  79. jordanv, you are an idiot.
    I can’t get over how you Vikings fans don’t think this is just pathetic behavior for a professional athlete and the “leader” of your team. Anyone who has ever played a sport at even the high school level should realize this.
    I equally don’t get how you discount everything Fran Tarkenton says since he is one of the few Viking HOFers and the best quarterback in the history of your organization.

  80. mastablasta says:
    March 17, 2010 12:31 PM
    Glad he’s the Vikings problem now,,,WOW spartachris,did yo really type that,,didnt number 4 totally dismantle the packers twice last year and will prolly do it twice more this year i would have to say,no he is still a problem for green bay,,dummy
    ===============================
    Beat us? Yup, twice. Totally dismantle us? Nope, far from it.
    Besides, that was last season, dope. Vikes got lucky they caught us while we were still figuring things out. This upcoming season is going to paint a different picture.
    Besides, we *know* who are QB is. Do you?

  81. @Ruvell100
    Thank you–that’s TWICE now–in one post –where your post has saved me considerable time and hassle by saying almost the exact same thing I would have.
    Between you and JimmySmith, you cover the most essential points.
    Keep up the good work.
    Clearly, jordanv doesn’t possess the minimum synaptical wattage it requires to understand basic verbal IRONY.
    I’d explain it to him, but some mountains are just too big to climb.
    I don’t care who you are–Favre’s self-appointed exceptionalism flies directly in the face of the basic TEAM concept. And football is the ultimate team game.
    If I’m busting my ass at work/practice in the baking sun, getting battered, tired, missing my family, sleeping in dorms, etc. all for the sake of the betterment of my TEAM, and some spoiled narcissistic attention-seeking johnny-come-lately diva PRICK strolls in at the final minute, picks up the reins and starts barking out orders, telling me what to do, trumping the coach’s calls (even if it is only Childo), and so on,
    (AND I already feel like that sonofab!tch is responsible for last year’s failure), I’m gonna RESENT the hell out of that arrogant MFer.
    Who isn’t going to?
    I might not say so publicly, but I will.
    I’ll grumble to friends, family and team-mates. I’ll feel it in my gut. It would stick with me, and may even effect the extent to which I block or run a route for the guy.
    So don’t fool yourselves, Queen fans–that grudge is not only there, I bet it won’t go away.

  82. Supersuckers says:
    March 17, 2010 2:23 PM
    Well Chicken it’s just like any other work place. The best salesman getting preferential treatment still stirs the pot internally. The boss doesnt even know sometimes. Montana stated the obvious. What Favres intention are. We all knew that. We are arguing two different points.
    =============================
    No, we aren’t.
    Read the article again.
    He said he doesn’t need all of training camp!!
    Jesus, you guys, get over him already.
    You have no clue what the collective mindset of the Vikings is.
    To compare it to sales is laughable.
    As for Fran, great QB. 1st class douche.
    He is so worried about Favre carrying them to a title and his (fran)becoming 2nd best in that orginization he’s about pissing in his old man diapers.
    Why are you worrying about the Vikings anyway?
    Yeah ambrose tou predicted him to fall on his face last year too…..s.o.s from you guys.

  83. Dewey says
    “I don’t care who you are–Favre’s self-appointed exceptionalism flies directly in the face of the basic TEAM concept. And football is the ultimate team game.
    If I’m busting my ass at work/practice in the baking sun, getting battered, tired, missing my family, sleeping in dorms, etc. all for the sake of the betterment of my TEAM, and some spoiled narcissistic attention-seeking johnny-come-lately diva PRICK strolls in at the final minute, picks up the reins and starts barking out orders, telling me what to do, trumping the coach’s calls (even if it is only Childo), and so on,
    (AND I already feel like that sonofab!tch is responsible for last year’s failure), I’m gonna RESENT the hell out of that arrogant MFer.”
    _____________________
    Perfectly said, but you can’t take credit for it. I think his former Jets teammates already leaked this out.

  84. ruvell100, where in any of my above posts did you come to the conclusion that I am a vikings fan or a Favre apologist? If you read my first post I made it clear that I am sick of him and games every year, secondly I am an eagles fan!! I wondered why soemone would get on here and call him Brent Favre(which isn’t his name) and I was called an idiot and told that in Wisconsin they call him Brent(again which isn’t his name). So if you can point out where in my earlier posts I made excuses for Favre’s behavior, or where you came to the conclusion that I am a vikings fan, point them out to me, and I will never post on PFT again. But you better get to it, you might be on here looking for a while!!!

  85. “So don’t fool yourselves, Queen fans–that grudge is not only there, I bet it won’t go away. ”
    Strange, then, that all of the Vikings players keep saying they want Favre back. Perhaps you could offer to teach them how to properly hold a grudge?
    You need to understand that you’re talking about an extremely old (by football standards) player who simply isn’t going to get much of anything out of training camp except worn down. (Unless they can figure out in camp how to stop Favre’s brain from locking up when a playoff game is on the line.) I hear what you’re saying, but there are exceptions to every rule, and this is absolutely one of them.
    What would you rather have, one of the best-ever QB’s without training camp, or Tavarius Jackson with training camp. And yes, it is a rhetorical question and we already know every honest person’s answer to that. The Vikings players are doubtlessly no different.

  86. jordanv- The rest of the post wasn’t directed at you. Just the part about you being an idiot for not getting the “Brent” thing. You’re free to post.
    Occam- Can you imagine the backlash if a Vikings player said, “I think Favre is pathetic for not coming to camp and grinding it out with us. Give T-Jack a chance, at least he’s here trying to forge a championship in the trenches, not playing media games.” It would be mutiny in East Dakota, and players are trained on how to speak with the media.
    I would argue that Michael Jordan (or even a Donald Driver type player) spends more time working out as they age than less. I could definitely forge an argument that the Vikings are better off without him. Maybe not on paper, but what do you think Tavaris would be like this year with a full year of starting under his belt? Didn’t they go 10-6 and win the division with him at the helm?

  87. gotcha ruvell100, but not being from wisconsin, i still don’t understand the brent thing, i wish someone would explain it in a little bit of detail

  88. No, we aren’t.
    Read the article again.
    He said he doesn’t need all of training camp!!
    Jesus, you guys, get over him already.
    You have no clue what the collective mindset of the Vikings is.
    To compare it to sales is laughable.
    As for Fran, great QB. 1st class douche.
    He is so worried about Favre carrying them to a title and his (fran)becoming 2nd best in that orginization he’s about pissing in his old man diapers.
    Why are you worrying about the Vikings anyway?
    Yeah ambrose tou predicted him to fall on his face last year too…..s.o.s from you guys.
    Right on!

  89. A few comments to make on this..
    First, anyone who tries to make the case that Favre’s performance last year suffered because he wasn’t at training camps… I don’t know what to say about that. You’re fooling yourself if that’s what you think.
    You simply cannot convince an objective, open-minded person that Favre played any worse last season because he missed training camps and OTAs. I’ll be honest–I thought he would. He didn’t. His failure last year was just the same old Brett coming out at crunch time. It had nothing to do with training camps. So drop it. It makes you sound dumb.
    Secondly (on the other side of the equation), if anyone really thinks no one in that locker room is bothered by Favre skipping all the offseason/preseason work, then they’re also fooling themselves. I’m not saying there’s going to be a “schism” or anything, but guys notice. And long-term, it could be a problem for Childress when other guys expect the same treatment.
    Here’s a prime example (in the link below). Bailey doesn’t put it in so many words, but you can tell from what he says that he thinks more guys out to be there putting in their work. They notice it, and it can be a problem. It remains to be seen whether or not it will be a problem for the Vikings.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/15/champ-bailey-notices-teammates-absence-from-workouts/
    Lastly, I’m not sure which is better.. Really not knowing whether you’re going to play, or acting like you don’t know so you can skip workouts.
    On the one hand you’re extremely indecisive–which is a trait typically exhibited by the weaker sex. On the other hand, you’re too much of a pussy to just come out and say you’re going to play, but you’re not going to do the work. Neither option is ideal.

  90. # SpartaChris says: March 17, 2010 10:48 AM
    Gee, ya think? In other news, water is wet.
    This is precisely why the Packers finally said “enough” and moved him along. While Favre may not need it, the rest of the team might.
    Glad he’s the Vikings problem now.
    Me too. What a great problem to have, especially when our “problem” beats your team of drunken idiots twice every year.

  91. Chicken,
    The point I am making is the EXACT same thing as what Dewey said. I am sure Favre thinks HIMSELF that he can stroll in after Mankato. Read Deweys post. I could not have said it better.

  92. Chicken he/they did fall on their face last year in a colossol choke job. Like we all predicted. It always ends the same with Favre. It will again.

  93. FreddieBaby says:
    March 18, 2010 8:57 AM
    Me too. What a great problem to have, especially when our “problem” beats your team of drunken idiots twice every year.
    ————————–
    Drunken idiots? Like Jared Allen and Cedric Griffin?

  94. Supersuckers says:
    March 18, 2010 10:01 AM
    Chicken,
    The point I am making is the EXACT same thing as what Dewey said. I am sure Favre thinks HIMSELF that he can stroll in after Mankato. Read Deweys post. I could not have said it better.
    ===============================
    Wow, now your in cahoots with Douchey Asswound?
    You sure know how to pick them.
    2 out of the 3 biggest idiots on this site, the other being Bobby.
    Trust me if Dewey says something, you can bet the opposite is true.
    ——————————-
    Supersuckers says:
    March 18, 2010 10:04 AM
    Chicken he/they did fall on their face last year in a colossol choke job. Like we all predicted. It always ends the same with Favre. It will again.
    ==============================
    Playoff game on the road, underdogs in the game.
    Not a choke job really.
    Keep telling yourself what you have to though.
    How come it didn’t matter so much to you when he faded with the Jets?
    Get over it, he’s gone.

  95. Chickenandhisalteregowis4bretmistakenlyexposedsays,
    “Get over it, he’s gone”
    ——-
    Thankfully. Pointing out his choking does not mean we would want the guy back. I dont get why you would think any of us would want him back with what GB had playing QB for the next 12 years barring injury.

  96. Not My alter ego…sorry.
    You fools sure type about him enough..
    Its as if you aer missing him terribly.

  97. wi4bret says:
    March 17, 2010 10:12 PM
    No, we aren’t.
    Read the article again.
    He said he doesn’t need all of training camp!!
    Jesus, you guys, get over him already.
    You have no clue what the collective mindset of the Vikings is.
    To compare it to sales is laughable.
    As for Fran, great QB. 1st class douche.
    He is so worried about Favre carrying them to a title and his (fran)becoming 2nd best in that orginization he’s about pissing in his old man diapers.
    Why are you worrying about the Vikings anyway?
    Yeah ambrose tou predicted him to fall on his face last year too…..s.o.s from you guys.
    Right on!
    ———-
    chickenragnar says:
    March 17, 2010 4:16 PM
    Supersuckers says:
    March 17, 2010 2:23 PM
    Well Chicken it’s just like any other work place. The best salesman getting preferential treatment still stirs the pot internally. The boss doesnt even know sometimes. Montana stated the obvious. What Favres intention are. We all knew that. We are arguing two different points.
    =============================
    No, we aren’t.
    Read the article again.
    He said he doesn’t need all of training camp!!
    Jesus, you guys, get over him already.
    You have no clue what the collective mindset of the Vikings is.
    To compare it to sales is laughable.
    As for Fran, great QB. 1st class douche.
    He is so worried about Favre carrying them to a title and his (fran)becoming 2nd best in that orginization he’s about pissing in his old man diapers.
    Why are you worrying about the Vikings anyway?
    Yeah ambrose tou predicted him to fall on his face last year too…..s.o.s from you guys.
    ————————–
    Same post…but two different names?? hmm…

  98. Jesus Super, a little reading comprehension would do wonders for you.
    He copied my post and then tacked on the “right on” at the bottom!!!
    It’s not me, you are waaay off on my alter ego.
    WAY OFF.

  99. It has nothing to do with comprehension. The way you type and paste past posts make them very difficult to read sometimes. Plus there is that terrific spelling you have going on..

  100. colossol………….
    Speaking of terrific spelling…….
    My mistakes are typing errors for the most part.
    You’ve spelt colossal wrong about 5 times now.
    I don’t think it was that difficult for anyone to see that the dude added right on at the end of my post.
    By the way, you will never figure out who I am besides ChickenRagnar 🙂

  101. jimicos,
    You make some good points. But I disagree with:
    I’m not saying there’s going to be a “schism” or anything, but guys notice. And long-term, it could be a problem for Childress when other guys expect the same treatment.
    ————————————-
    C’mon, these are mostly grown men. Especially the ones that matter. Like the Williams wall, Hutch, Allen, AD, EJ, Winfield. You wanna go whinin and cryin to these guys? They will tell you to shut the hell up! Get your butt to work, cause Favre is the best shot they have at winning.

  102. Chicken,
    I already have it figured out. C Carter Hall of fame dude- Its a work place. Bending the rules loses the respect of employees.

  103. No, Not CrisCarter HOF either. You are so far off on this it isn’t even funny.
    Not when said employees have come out and said , come in when you want.
    You are trying to make a problem where there is not one.
    I guess you can hope there are problems, it’s the Packs only chance to overtake them.

  104. Reading comprehension????:) I was addressing the c carter dude. Not saying he was you. I already know who you are. There will be problems with the “Favre rules” Especially if he struggles. Can’t wait!

  105. Favre needs all of training to figure out how he is going to end the season with one of his famous int’s. Go Pack!!!!!!!!!!!!

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