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Florida wideout happy to have "a real quarterback"

Last week, Dolphins quarterback Chad Henne made waves by claiming that Tim Tebow isn’t a real NFL quarterback.

Now, one of his former college teammates says, essentially, that Tebow wasn’t a real college quarterback.

John Taylor of CFT has the details.  And they’re juicy.

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  1. sniperhare says: Mar 22, 2010 9:20 PM

    Of course Tebow isn’t an NFL caliber QB. He’s a great option QB, but that doesn’t fly in the NFL.

  2. Desides says: Mar 22, 2010 9:20 PM

    “And they’re juicy.”
    Not really. It’s pretty clear he’s referring to Tebow’s replacement being a pocket quarterback.

  3. DCPowerGator says: Mar 22, 2010 9:34 PM

    Trivia Question: Which of the following SEC QBs had the highest completion percentage, yards per attempt, TD-INT ratio and QB rating of the group as well as the second highest number of TDs and the lowest number of INTs?
    (A) Peyton Manning
    (B) Tim Couch
    (C) Eli Manning
    (D) JaMarcus Russell
    (E) Matt Stafford
    (F) Tim Tebow
    If you didn’t answer “F,” you get an F for your football knowledge. Just like a certain “F” around this place. If you are interested in the other side of the Tim Tebow story, the side actually supported by statistics, facts and results, click here:
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_3171_A_tale_of_six_quarterbacks.html

  4. hmc122 says: Mar 22, 2010 9:41 PM

    Note: The details are taken out of context. No, they are not juicy. Spare yourselves.

  5. The_Game_Esq says: Mar 22, 2010 9:45 PM

    Just calling it like it is.

  6. evilboy128 says: Mar 22, 2010 9:56 PM

    guess if a guy isn’t a thug like your fellow WVU alum Pacman Jones, then he isn’t a “real” player, huh, Florio?

  7. Alfie says: Mar 22, 2010 10:27 PM

    Awh, does DC Gator Power not realize that NCAA statistics are completely 100% worthless im regards to projecting NFL talent, ESPECIALLY at quarteback?
    What do your “Cold Hard Facts” say about Colt Brennen? Akili Smith? David Klingler? Timmy Chang? Ty Detmer? Graham Harrell?
    Why is it such a friggin’ travesty for some people Tebow’s not an NFL QB?

  8. Bungles&Squeelers says: Mar 22, 2010 10:34 PM

    @ DCPowerGator
    So you’re trying to say since Tebow had better college numbers than 2 “real” NFL quaterbacks that he is going to translate into an immaculate pro quaterback. The only problem with the list you provided is that JaMarcus is hardly a starter, Tim Couch doesn’t play in the league and Stafford is a rookie. By your logic, Matt Lienart, Troy Smith & Ken Dorsey should be in the HOF because they all had great completion percentages, TD-INT ratios and QB Ratings in college

  9. Bungles&Squeelers says: Mar 22, 2010 10:49 PM

    I bet Louis Murphy loves that he finally has a “real” quaterback in Oakland

  10. Zoology says: Mar 22, 2010 10:58 PM

    The actual quote:
    “You never know with Tim,” Thompson said. “He can bolt. You think he’s running but he’ll come up and pass it to you. You just have to be ready. With Brantley, everything’s with rhythm, with time. You know, a real quarterback.”
    I don’t think it’s really that much of a stretch to assume he meant to say:
    “You never know with Tim,” Thompson said. “He can bolt. You think he’s running but he’ll come up and pass it to you. You just have to be ready. With Brantley, everything’s with rhythm, with time. You know, a traditional quarterback.”

  11. Shawn says: Mar 22, 2010 10:59 PM

    Well let’s think about this for a minute, Tebows stats mean absolutely nothing. He was playing for Florida who had the best OL and Wr’s. It’s because he was on such a great team not because he’s a good qb. Remember back when Matt Leinart was Qb at Usc? He had a great OL and great WR’s, and it was because of that he won the Heisman along with his average skills at the qb position. In reality just think how the Raiders would be with a great QB like Peyton Manning. With Peyton on the colts, he’s highly likely to attend Pro Bowl. If he Played for the Raiders he would have a slimmer chance at making it. Face Reality people.

  12. Vince Drooley says: Mar 22, 2010 11:27 PM

    I’m a U fan and thus, a Gator hater, but Tim Tebow is a winner. He is a real football player in the classic sense and will do something good in the NFL. I do not know what exactly that will be, but whoever drafts him will have a guy with an incredible work ethic, outstanding athletic ability and smarts. He’d be an excellent slash guy. But probably not worth more than a 4th or 5th round pick.
    Thonpson did not throw him under the bus here. You cannot hear the intonation. Really just sounds like the guy above has it right; he meant “traditional” QB.

  13. mwcarolina says: Mar 22, 2010 11:32 PM

    Well let’s see if the Florida wide out will be looking smart or foolish for those comments. If Florida loses 2 games or more than he’s foolish.

  14. chemicalxv says: Mar 22, 2010 11:36 PM

    “# Shawn says: March 22, 2010 10:59 PM
    Well let’s think about this for a minute, Tebows stats mean absolutely nothing. He was playing for Florida who had the best OL and Wr’s. It’s because he was on such a great team not because he’s a good qb. Remember back when Matt Leinart was Qb at Usc? He had a great OL and great WR’s, and it was because of that he won the Heisman along with his average skills at the qb position. In reality just think how the Raiders would be with a great QB like Peyton Manning. With Peyton on the colts, he’s highly likely to attend Pro Bowl. If he Played for the Raiders he would have a slimmer chance at making it. Face Reality people.”
    I don’t think I’ve ever read so much ignorance at one time before…

  15. Hans says: Mar 22, 2010 11:41 PM

    In 1998 the Vikes grabbed Randy Moss at #21 in the first round. In 2009, the Vikes grabbed Percy Harvin at #22 in the first round. In 2010, the Vikes will again take the best player available, regardless of public opinion, and grab Tebow with the 30th pick in the first round. I’m not even sure the guy will ever be a good starting QB in the NFL, but he will (at worst) carve out a solid or better 10-year career in the NFL. Maybe he’s an Alstott-type FB, maybe he’s a Bavarro-type TE, or maybe he’s the ultimate Wildcat QB, or maybe a combination of all of the above. If he is taken after the 20-25th pick in the first round, it will go down as a Draft Day Steal.

  16. DCPowerGator says: Mar 22, 2010 11:59 PM

    followup for those who didn’t grasp some obvious basics:
    1. the list presented is to compare SEC QBs drafted #1 overall with tebow, i.e., similarly situated QBs w/r/t talent level both on and off their teams. it is not necessarily a commentary on their success or lack thereof (jalardass, couch).
    2. of course statistics do not guarantee NFL success. neither are they completely, 100% worthless. that is just stupid. here’s another thing that does not guarantee NFL success – the “consensus” of talent evaluations required in order to select a QB at the #1 overall spot.
    3. why do people love to talk about which QBs will / won’t be successful in the NFL when the ONLY thing we know is that the professionals barely hit 50% on first round QBs?
    since the pros can only hit on half, you’ll pardon me if i am not impressed by the armchair analysis of the alfies, bungles, shawns and florios of the world. you’ve got your opinions. congratulations. but since the guys getting PAID to do this are going to be wrong more often than they are right, you’ll pardon me if i don’t give a flaming horses’ behind about anybody’s opinion on tim tebow, save for people with proven track records in this business (belichick, holmgren, shanahan). not coincidentally, those gentlemen belong to three of the five teams that have scheduled tim tebow for a private workout. hmmmmm.
    i know that “wait and see” is certainly not as exciting or bold as loudly declaring that tim tebow will suck in the NFL to anybody who will listen but that is exactly what anybody with half a brain would suggest when it comes to prognosticating the NFL success of tim tebow or any other high-profile college QB.

  17. JaMarcus Russell #2 says: Mar 23, 2010 12:26 AM

    @ Shawn
    If Peyton Manning was on the Raiders then the Raiders would have been awesome and won a bunch of SuperBowls. Manning is the best QB in the league. He could play with senior citizens on the team and still win games because he does it all by himself. He makes the players around him better then they really are. So its the Quarterback that makes a team and makes a team win

  18. StickyGreen says: Mar 23, 2010 12:47 AM

    DCPowerGator:
    WOW!! Hope your team takes him, not mine

  19. LeeroyJenkins says: Mar 23, 2010 12:56 AM

    All you Tebow lovers who can’t figure it out and spout stats. Go look up Omar Jacobs from Bowling Green and talk to me then…

  20. StickyGreen says: Mar 23, 2010 1:36 AM

    DCPowerGator:
    Only the 3rd post down but already the dumbest!
    Congrats!

  21. WingT says: Mar 23, 2010 5:05 AM

    Florio you are such a dweeb, lol… you’re a tiny little man that has a real hate for Tebow. You, apparently will stop at nothing to bash Tebow.
    I feel sorry for you

  22. DCPowerGator says: Mar 23, 2010 6:39 AM

    @chemicalxv – really? you must be new to the site! :-)

  23. shaunypoo says: Mar 23, 2010 7:55 AM

    Sorry, if you think this guy will be at the top level of any position which he has not played before, i.e. tight end or fullback, then you are full of dog dooky. He may end up being a serviceable QB a few years after sitting behind a highly respected and established QB, but to think that he can come in a learn a new position and be a high caliber contributor is just crazy talk. No one should take a FB in the first round, and unless a TE is a phenom, he should not be taken in the first round. But to take a guy to play one of those positions in the first round when he has done neither is not good football sense. And a first rounder is not a steal, no matter what number they were taken. They are expected to start and be contributors on a relatively short time frame.
    He is a late 3rd-early 4th at best. Taking him sooner is to waste a pick on a developmental prospect. Desire and will does not translate to success. He has both, unfortunately he lacks NFL caliber talent.

  24. DCPowerGator says: Mar 23, 2010 9:11 AM

    sticky – that’s great analysis, congratulations. pardon me if i put more stock in mike holmgren’s opinion (and bill belichick’s and mike shanahan’s) than yours.
    one thing we can agree on… i also hope he doesn’t go to your team.

  25. cbrianwatkins says: Mar 23, 2010 9:15 AM

    shaunypoo says:
    March 23, 2010 7:55 AM
    Sorry, if you think this guy will be at the top level of any position which he has not played before, i.e. tight end or fullback, then you are full of dog dooky. …………………… but to think that he can come in a learn a new position and be a high caliber contributor is just crazy talk.
    ————————————————–
    i think there are a few former basketball players (now TE’s) in the NFL who would disagree with that

  26. Alfie says: Mar 23, 2010 9:17 AM

    @DCPowerGator
    Sorry, NCAA stats are 100% worthless given the scope of college football, especially at the QB position. It’s easy to complete 60%+ of your passes since the vast majority are short quick passes. 47 starting QB’s in the NCAA last year complete at least 60% of their passes. 113 NCAA QB’s had a rating over 100 last year.
    I don’t know how many times guys like Tebow, who obviously don’t possess NFL QB qualities (arm, mechanics, ability to read a defense… you know.. the essentials), need to be propped up before people realize it.
    I’m not saying I’m right and you’re wrong, I’m saying the argument you’re presenting is laughable and horribly put together. Comparing NCAA statistics with guys who’ve failed or been a success in the NFL is worthless. Given you’re own “Cold Hard Facts” only two of the quarterbacks you listed have been successful. You’re point actually DEFEATS what you’re trying to say. If anything, it should be a heed of warning to NOT PAY ATTENTION to college production.

  27. Alfie says: Mar 23, 2010 9:21 AM

    Also, check the history of Cold Hard Facts where they tried to argue Mark Bulger was on the same plane as Manning/Brady and how Vince Young just “wins” back in 2006. It’s great.

  28. jersey73 says: Mar 23, 2010 10:57 AM

    @ Shawn
    Peyton went to a horrible Colts team and made them into a winner. If Peyton went to the Raiders, the Raiders would’ve had success.
    Whether someone loves or hates Peyton, one must admit he is a great player that makes others better.
    While team matters, every generation there are players that come along that defy the wisdom about “place matters”.

  29. texasPHINSfan says: Mar 23, 2010 4:49 PM

    “Desides says:
    March 22, 2010 9:20 PM
    “And they’re juicy.”
    Not really. It’s pretty clear he’s referring to Tebow’s replacement being a pocket quarterback.”
    This. It is just a misunderstood sentence that even had the context before to explain what Thompson meant. Tebow isn’t a pocket passer. We all know this. It’s not a juicy story. We can move on from Tebow now, jesus.

  30. texasPHINSfan says: Mar 23, 2010 4:51 PM

    “Alfie says:
    March 22, 2010 10:27 PM
    Why is it such a friggin’ travesty for some people Tebow’s not an NFL QB?”
    I have yet to see anyone proclaim he WILL be successful in the NFL, not here at PFT.
    Instead what I see is a bunch of hate-filled posts directed at Tebow. Florio & Co. keep spewing the Tebow articles we’re all sick of, because everyone (including myself) post in them and it drives traffic.
    If PFT would stop posting Tebow non-stories, we could all move on. All in favor? Aye!

  31. shaunypoo says: Mar 24, 2010 7:02 AM

    cbrianwatkins
    The exceptions are less than 0.1% of the players that have ever played in the NFL, and the players that are mentioned are unknown quantities in regards to high level football. Everything in regards to football has been measured with Tebow. I am not saying that he won’t be successful in the NFL, I just think his draft spot is lower. Some team will probably pull the gun in the 2nd. Probably a bad team that is desperate.

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