Roethlisberger faces league scrutiny, even without indictment

nfl_ap_scott_roethlisberger1_576.jpgWhen it comes to the sexual assault allegations against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, the key moment will occur when prosecutors decide whether to pursue formal charges.  (Technically, an indictment from a grand jury will be the tipping point, but there’s a ham sandwich in my fridge that knows any indictment can be obtained if the prosecutor truly wants it.)

Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that, even if Roethlisberger isn’t charged, he could be compelled by the league to undergo a clinical evaluation

In our view, the applicable term should be something stronger than “could.”  The Personal Conduct Policy states that persons “arrested, charged or otherwise appearing to have engaged in conduct prohibited under this policy will be required to undergo a formal clinical evaluation.”  Even if authorities in Georgia decide that insufficient evidence exists to convict Roethlisberger beyond a reasonable doubt, the mere making of the criminal complaint fits the “otherwise appearing” language.

If Roethlisberger is charged, Bouchette reports that the team and/or the league “can dole out immediate discipline,” even without a conviction.  In our view, however, the Personal Conduct Policy empowers only the league to discipline a player for criminal misconduct.  That said, look for the team and the league to work closely together in an effort to determine the appropriate sanction. 

A key factor in this regard will be the outcome of the investigation that NFL Security undoubtedly is conducting.  If NFL Security believes that the claim against Roethlisberger has merit, there’s a chance that an indictment will result in the same indefinite suspension that was imposed on Mike Vick once he was indicted on federal conspiracy charges relating to dogfighting and gambling.

91 responses to “Roethlisberger faces league scrutiny, even without indictment

  1. BlueEyeDevils says:
    Only difference – Vick is black!
    oh yeah and he was convicted and did prison time but other than that not much difference

  2. This is BS.
    I was no defender of Chris Henry, but this is just more hog-wash in regards to the level of punishment shown to players.
    Chris Henry had a list of trouble, then got into another incident. Before anything was ever done legally he was cut from the team and given like an 4 (8?) game suspension…and the charges were later dropped and such.
    HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THE NFL JUSTIFY NOT HAVING THE SAME KIND OF SWEEPING JUSTICE THAT CHRIS HENRY WAS SHOWN?
    And now…this is becoming a trend for Roeth as well.
    Henry was suspended under “conduct detrimental to the NFL”….how the F is Roeth even being talked about as starting the 1st game this season.
    Had this been someone like Chris Henry, the NFL would have been all over it and he would already be done for the year.
    B— S–T.

  3. No charges will be filed. A chunk of money to the young lady. Major character change for Ben. I seriously doubt he will ever put himself in this situation again.
    Ben, get serious with a smart and attractive woman and settle down. Take it from a former “Dear Hunter” it’s the best way to go.

  4. I agree with “the where there’s smoke there’s fire” thing. ” If ladies could get away with falsely accusing famous athletes of sexual assault, it would happen way more often.

  5. LOL Most companies will can your ass if you get a DUI too…lol but by these standards all u need is for someone to say they seen you drinking . If he did nothing wrong n the criminal investigation proves just that,then there shouldnt be any punishment.. How do you punish someone for doing nothing?
    I aslo believe where theres money theres mongers too… it works full circle guys. The first case has no merit oncesoever.. NONE.. ZERO..ZILCH.. Have any of you guys actually read up on that case?That chick is a nutcase.. and has time in the physc ward to prove it..a bill she couldnt pay by the way. Lol All stemming from a make believe love affair that was constructed by the wife of the man Mcnutty was havin an affair with!
    This case i dont know the details too .. only speculation on sites such as this,,hasnt been one ounce of evidence laid out there in order to make a judgement. He is however gonna have to pick better company to spend his time with..not a groupie.
    Blue the only difference is .. Vick had the dead dogs on his own property ..and countless witnesses to his actions.. not to mention he eventually admitted to his wrongdoings. LOL NO comparision but nice try Sharpton

  6. Roger Goodell and the Rooney family are, at this very moment, preparing to invest a huge sum of money in stock at the open of trading this morning in the Never-Chafe Rope Company, Inc.

  7. @Quaker4
    I’m not going to support Roethlisberger. That being said, I think any level-headed person can deduce the difference between he and Henry. Ben has not been charged of one crime. Henry was arrested and charged 6 times.

  8. Ben’s private goons have been investigating the “subtance of the allegations” for a couple weeks now. That’s lawyer spin meaning they’re trying to dig up dirt on the victim.
    Once they find something embarassing in her past, perhaps something she wouldn’t want her parents to find out about, (after all she IS a college student) they’ll have her right where they want her. Then maybe a little cash under the table and Ben will be “vindicated” in the eyes of the faithful. However, given his extreme arrogance and his obvious sense of entitlement it won’t be long before episode three occurs. He won’t be able to dodge justice forever.

  9. Blue eyed devil,
    Are you friggin retarded? How is that the only difference? What Ben did is horrible and should go to jail. What Vick did is horrible and did go to jail, he lied to everyone and that is the reason he went to jail. You are so stupid and are a racist. Vick will never be a pro bowl qb. He is a worthless human being as are you!

  10. Im sick of the racist card thrown everytime something goes wrong if ben did do the act accused of he should be punished just like everyone else (white or black) But these young girls see a wealthy athelete and see $ signs, you pay off one then others will follow I hope these allegations are not true and ben you can move forward Id hate not to see you in the game this season You atheletes need to start using better judgement with the woman and people you chose to hang with because alot of times it does come back to bite you in the ass Im behind you and hope all works out for the best

  11. Seriously, I mean it is going to far with this guy or girl blue eyed devil and should be punted from this site.
    This is a place where there is good hearted jabs and a way to talk trash. You blue eyed devil do none of these things. The rest of the people who sign on hear to read some news about the game we love so much should just IGNORE this racist.

  12. None of you assclowns knows what happens. It amazes me how many people jump to conclusions in either direction in cases like this. Ben has a pattern of behavior if not a track record, so it makes sense to be suspicious, and any time a claim of sexual assault is leveled, it makes sense to take it seriously. At the end of the day, if he did this he needs to lose everything and if not, it’s clear he puts himself in bad situations, so its another lesson learned.

  13. Hey BlueEyedDevil—it’s very perceptive that you note that Michael Vick is a darkie–Bravo to you —The illiterite,sub human savage is also a multiple dog murderer—His darkie ass needs to be put down..

  14. @blueeydevils – your post smacks of malcolm x for sure. You’re as big a racist pig as x, sharpton, jackson and a host of others! People are getting tired of the race card being thrown out and its wearing out for sure. What are black people going to do when you’ve cried wolf too many times? Tawana Brawley anybody? Yeah, go ahead, keep calling it homey, your days are numbered on that one! As for Vick, what a waste of oxygen! One, that’s right, one playoff game for him in his career. Elite and vick should not even be in the same sentence.

  15. The poster’s handle is “BlueEyeDevils” not BlueEyesDevil.
    The difference is subtle but important to note.

  16. Please join me in trying to get blueeydevils posting privileges revoked. This clown is a raicst full of hate and puke nonsense. Please email Florio personally and post something at the end of every comment to help get him removed. Thank you.

  17. Chris Henry had a list of trouble, then got into another incident. Before anything was ever done legally he was cut from the team and given like an 4 (8?) game suspension…and the charges were later dropped and such.
    HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THE NFL JUSTIFY NOT HAVING THE SAME KIND OF SWEEPING JUSTICE THAT CHRIS HENRY WAS SHOWN?
    ==================
    Chris Henry was arrested 7 times in one year. BR has never been arrested. There is the difference and the answer to your question. Not that you were actually looking for an answer, since I am sure you already have your mind made up, but there it is.

  18. The guy may simply have an alcohol problem. All this garbage about sexual addictions and all that are crap. Take alcohol out of the equation, and 99 times out of 100 you can control your sexual appetite. The other 1 probably has something else wrong with them.

  19. Just curious, Mike, why did you pull my post from here? It certainly wasn’t offensive, especially in light of what blueeyedevil and Lombardi6 wrote. Wow. Could you explain to me??? I’m really, really curious.

  20. BlueEyeDevils says:
    March 22, 2010 2:41 AM
    Only difference – Vick is black!
    There are 2 sets of rules.
    ====================
    Other differences:
    1) Vick indicted- BR not
    2) Vick convicted- BR not
    3) Vick lied to grand jury, police and the owner of his team- BR did not
    4) Vick cheated on his taxes and defrauded business partners- BR did not
    5) Vick knowingly passed STD’s to unsuspecting women. In March 2005, Sonya Elliott filed a civil lawsuit against Vick alleging she contracted genital herpes from him in the autumn of 2002 and that he failed to inform her that he had the disease.- BR did not
    6) Vick ran a multi-state organized criminal enterprise for a number of years and then actively participated in covering it up- BR did not
    7) Is actively lobbying other teams to acquire him while under contract to another team, BR is not
    8) Vick was involved in a marijuana distribution ring- In early 2004, two men were arrested in Virginia for distributing marijuana. The truck they were driving was registered to Vick- BR was not.
    9) Vick failed a drug test while out on bail- BR did not.
    10) Vick bought steriods from a convicted trafficker, David Jacobs. BR did not.
    11) Vick declared bankruptcy, screwing creditors, including his agent, his former team, and his business partners out of tens of millions of dollars.
    You’re right, you ignorant race baiting retard, other than that they are exactly the same.
    Florio- Please DON’T ban Blue Eyed Devils from the site- he is way too easy a target.

  21. Devils Advocate says:
    March 22, 2010 8:55 AM
    Sexburgh, PA – the city of perverts?
    =============================
    That’s awesome. Did you think of that all by yourself? I am completely impressed with your biting witicism. I mean really, taking Pittsburgh, and replacing “Pitt” with “Sex”, so it says “Sexburgh”? Who would have thought of something like that? Did it just come to you or did you roll around various possibilities in your head until that one just stuck? I am always fascinated by the process as much as the result- have you always had this rare gift for wordsmanship or was it the result of years of training?
    And city of perverts? My goodness, the courage and audacity to strike out at entire city, condemning their depravity and challenging their moral compass? What man, other than you of course, would dare?

  22. bonecity7 says:
    March 22, 2010 6:38 AM
    Mike,
    How long are you gonna allow the racist SOB BlueEyeDevils to offend your readers?
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
    Maybe after someone starts calling themselves “ChocolateSatan” and makes every issue about race?

  23. Reality Police- Chris Henry was arrested 6 times over a 3 year period, not 7 times over a 1 year period.

  24. ” My Coke Can says:
    What Ben did is horrible and should go to jail. ”
    And what did he do exactly?
    He hasn’t been arrested. He hasn’t even been charged with anything.
    Were you an eyewitness? If so, the authorities in Georgia would like to have a word with you.
    Otherwise, go have a look at the U.S. Constitution, as you seem to be completely unfamiliar with it.

  25. Football says:
    March 22, 2010 9:18 AM
    Reality Police- Chris Henry was arrested 6 times over a 3 year period, not 7 times over a 1 year period.
    ===========================
    My bad. In my defense, four of those arrests were over a 6 month period, December 04 to June 05, and there were other incidents where police were involved but no arrest was made.
    Doesn’t really change my point. It’s still pretty stupid to ask what the difference is between a player who has never been arrested and one with the record that Henry (RIP) had.

  26. You call 2 set of rules what about Dante Stallworth. He ran over and killed a pedestrian and didn;t even go to jail. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM what color was He
    It is sicking about this racial profiling, Can’t anyone be just an American who is not color blind that sees only black and white

  27. A few comments have pointed out that Ben has not been charged and no crime proven, maybe this girl is just a gold digger, etc. Let me point out what is known and what Ben has admitted to;
    He says he had consensual sex with the girl. The quarterback of an NFL franchise admitted to having sex with a 20 year old college girl…in the bathroom of a bar! A public place, where he was making a promotional appearance. Not exactly role model material. Also, I would assume that lewd conduct is illegal in Georgia. Allegedly, his bodyguards posted themselves outdside the shitter so no one would walk in and get a load of Little Ben. How thoughtful. We say playing in the NFL is a privledge, and I don’t think any consent excuses participating, or instigating as the case may be, a public sex act. I don’t care if the girl is a nympho, or looking to cash in or whatever. Ben has done enough in my mind to warrant immediate suspension.

  28. There is no racism involved in this case. Evidence is being gathered to indict Roethlisberger. If no evidence, no indictment or conviction. With Vick, it has nothing to do with being black, it has to do with the fact that evidence mounted up against him, he pleaded guilty, and the animal rights morons pushed and pushed and pushed, eventually getting what they wanted, and still continue to, unfortunately, harrass Vick.
    Not a black and white issue brown eye devil…. Take that $h!t to some political BS sight, not to a place where people like to talk football. Oops, did someone mention the Rooney Rule? Yea, don’t talk racism when talking NFL, moron!

  29. Three weeks in and NO charges. Get a clue, he is not going to be charged. Ben is guilty of stupidity, if that were a crime 3/4 of the league would be suspended.

  30. It’s the super jock mentality. I can do anything I want because I have Money and Fame.
    One has to ask the question, why is it Pro Football players who are f#%king up all the time?

  31. Arent you Captain “OBVIOUS” What else do you need, a dress with some stains on it. Come on man the guy might have not have been charged with anything…. yet. If anything he should be in jail for being stupid. Please do not bring the constitution into this. Does the constitution say anything about if you have money you are more likely to be found not guilty even though you did whatever. SHUDUP!

  32. “My Coke Can says: March 22, 2010 10:00 AM
    Arent you Captain “OBVIOUS” What else do you need, a dress with some stains on it. Come on man the guy might have not have been charged with anything…. yet. If anything he should be in jail for being stupid. ”
    If stupidity were a crime, you’d be doing 10-20.

  33. bluestree says
    ===================
    I actually agree with most of your points- BR is definitely guilty of a lack of brains and judgement and is obviously a raging misogynist. I wouldn’t want him representing my franchise, that’s for sure. If he had, in fact, been making a promotional appearance, I think the league would have a case for suspension. But he was not. He was just out with his posse.
    If he had been previously warned by the Steelers about his public behavior, which I don’t know, then they would certainly have grounds to suspend him.

  34. “# My Coke Can says:
    Please do not bring the constitution into this. ”
    Any why not?
    You’re the one who is proclaiming his guilt without due process. This is still America you know.
    Being as you prefer the form of instant justice & punishment doled out in many third world countries, then please feel free to choose one and buy a plane ticket.

  35. BlueEyedDevil was probably one of those mental midgets that threw a party when O.J. got off.
    Be careful confusing right and wrong with balck and white.
    We’ll find out if Ben is guilty soon enough. If he’s indicted, he’ll be suspended. If he’s convicted he’ll be out of the league and will serve time.
    In the mean time, comparing him to an ex-con like Mike Vick or a 6-time loser like the late Chris Henry is a bit premature.

  36. My Coke Can says:
    March 22, 2010 10:00 AM
    Arent you Captain “OBVIOUS” What else do you need, a dress with some stains on it.
    ===========================
    A dress with stains on it wouldn’t prove any crime. He has admitted to sexual contact with her, which was legal last I checked.
    What I need, dumbass, to put someone in jail is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime was committed. There is reasonable doubt all over this case.
    Oh and go ahead and piss on the consitution all you want, comrade, it’s not like anyone has ever died defending it.

  37. @ realitypolice – you win a gold star for fighting the good fight, which is trying to talk some sense into the mentally challenged commentors on PFT. I’m sitting here LOL-ing while you run mental cirlces around these morons.

  38. “A few comments have pointed out that Ben has not been charged and no crime proven, maybe this girl is just a gold digger, etc. Let me point out what is known and what BEN HAS ADMITTED TO;
    He says he had consensual sex with the girl”. –bluestree
    Uh no, Ben has NOT admitted to anything. Let me point out to you that those statements came from what “unnamed sources” SAID Ben said. Big difference! He hasn’t said anything publically yet.
    Check the KDKA story again where those statements originated!

  39. ” Chapnasty2 says:
    Please join me in trying to get blueeydevils posting privileges revoked. ”
    Wouldn’t work.
    He (she) would just do as Vox does and invent a new name (or several) to post under.

  40. My Coke Can says “If anything he should be in jail for being stupid. Please do not bring the constitution into this.”
    Say WHAT??!! Then everyone would be in jail because everybody has been stupid. Yes, Ben was very VERY stupid, but that is not a reason to go to jail for goodness sakes.
    Then, Coke Can wants to ignore the US Constitution? What country is he posting from? Certainly not the United States of America.
    What dumb comments to make, just dumb.

  41. bonecity7 says:
    March 22, 2010 6:38 AM
    Mike,
    How long are you gonna allow the racist SOB BlueEyeDevils to offend your readers?
    ———————————–
    Boo hoo hoo………. 🙂
    Just like your tea baggers (kkk) they lost………….
    Took Obama to do what a list of losers couldn’t do………….
    Ha ha ha

  42. @ bluestree
    When did Ben admit to having sex with this girl?
    He allegedly told the cop that night that they had sexual contact (not intercourse).
    What promotional appearance?
    He was out celebrating his birthday at numerous bars / night clubs and reserved a VIP room.
    And what are you talking about as far as a suspension?
    Any sex act by an unmarried NFL player warrants suspension according to your comment.
    You must watch Glenn Beck and believe everything he says too. Get back to us when you have some facts to state and not just made up bull sh*t.

  43. Khall:
    I’m not a reporter or a detective, and don’t have time to go out and do my own investigating. Therefore, for the purposes of my posts on this not-exactly-scientific glorified blog, I draw from publicly available information and make certain assumptions based upon what is accepted practice on behalf of the news organizations I reference.
    For example, I assume that if KDKA reports something, they have at least two sources they consider to be trustworthy. If these sources are not, this is KDKA’s problem, not mine. Again, I am not using KDKA’s article to prosecute anyone, only to debate others on a football blog.
    In the KDKA report, their sources claim BR admits to contact with the woman, without intercourse. That stipulation to contact would most likely cover several types of ahem….”stains” that could be found on her dress. Therefore, said stains would not be evidence of sexual assault, merely sexual “contact”.
    Which was my point.

  44. trimitdan says:
    March 22, 2010 8:11 AM
    @blueeydevils – your post smacks of malcolm x for sure. You’re as big a racist pig as x, sharpton, jackson and a host of others! People are getting tired of the race card being thrown out and its wearing out for sure. What are black people going to do when you’ve cried wolf too many times? Tawana Brawley anybody? Yeah, go ahead, keep calling it homey, your days are numbered on that one! As for Vick, what a waste of oxygen! One, that’s right, one playoff game for him in his career. Elite and vick should not even be in the same sentence.
    —————————————
    Damn “YOU” people act like I beat your worthless dog or something…….. ha ha ha
    The race card? I think the race card was played some 200+ years ago, when your COWARDLY DISGUSTING ancestors thought it was okay to place black people in bondage, whip them, rape them and lynch them.
    This so called race card is “YOU” people doing, so deal with it.
    It’s obvious why “YOU” people feared the obvious, by the result of the 1st black president accomplished when 200 years of “Losers” couldn’t do………….
    HA HA HA

  45. trimitdan says:
    March 22, 2010 8:11 AM
    @blueeydevils – your post smacks of malcolm x for sure. You’re as big a racist pig as x, sharpton, jackson and a host of others! People are getting tired of the race card being thrown out and its wearing out for sure. What are black people going to do when you’ve cried wolf too many times? Tawana Brawley anybody? Yeah, go ahead, keep calling it homey, your days are numbered on that one! As for Vick, what a waste of oxygen! One, that’s right, one playoff game for him in his career. Elite and vick should not even be in the same sentence.
    —————————————
    Damn “YOU” people act like I beat your worthless dog or something…….. ha ha ha
    The race card? I think the race card was played some 200+ years ago, when your COWARDLY DISGUSTING ancestors thought it was okay to place black people in bondage, whip them, rape them and lynch them.
    This so called race card is “YOU” people doing, so deal with it.
    It’s obvious why “YOU” people feared the obvious, by the result of the 1st black president accomplished when 200 years of “Losers” couldn’t do………….
    HA HA HA

  46. Just JTO says:
    March 22, 2010 8:52 AM
    Just curious, Mike, why did you pull my post from here? It certainly wasn’t offensive, especially in light of what blueeyedevil and Lombardi6 wrote. Wow. Could you explain to me??? I’m really, really curious.
    ———————————-
    Boo hoo hoo
    Take off the skirt WOMAN
    HA HA HA

  47. Chapnasty2 says:
    March 22, 2010 8:26 AM
    Please join me in trying to get blueeydevils posting privileges revoked. This clown is a raicst full of hate and puke nonsense. Please email Florio personally and post something at the end of every comment to help get him removed. Thank you.
    ———————————-
    I can see your letter written something like this:
    Dear Mr. Florio,
    This BlueEyeDevils has hurt the great white man’s feelings. Please make him stop……….
    Ha ha ha
    “YOU” people sound like a bunch of BIATCHES………..
    Ha ha ha

  48. So RealityPolice, you are also “bluestree”? Because that is who my comment was clearly directed to.
    Also, perhaps that’s your problem – you shouldn’t assume anything you read in the news as being true and use it as fact. If their sources are so credible as you suggest, then why not give their names? Wouldn’t that then erase the doubt given their allegations/comments when they are simply called “unnamed sources”?

  49. It’s obvious why “YOU” people feared the obvious, by the result of the 1st black president accomplished when 200 years of “Losers” couldn’t do………….
    ============================
    Could you try typing in english? Trying to figure your semi-literate points is giving me a headache.
    Yes, by using back-room Chicago style corrupt politics, lying to the american people and abandoning his base, Barack managed to pass a bill the majority of the american people didn’t want.
    This fall the American people begin to correct their mistake by taking away his democratic majority in congress, and in 2012 we sweep him out of office.

  50. Laxer37 says:
    March 22, 2010 10:24 AM
    BlueEyedDevil was probably one of those mental midgets that threw a party when O.J. got off.
    Be careful confusing right and wrong with balck and white.
    We’ll find out if Ben is guilty soon enough. If he’s indicted, he’ll be suspended. If he’s convicted he’ll be out of the league and will serve time.
    In the mean time, comparing him to an ex-con like Mike Vick or a 6-time loser like the late Chris Henry is a bit premature.
    —————————————
    “If it don’t fit – must acquit”……………. ha ha ha
    By, the way, Nicole Simpson was a gold digger just like “YOU” people say of the victims that were raped by the “Great Hope”, so I guess if Ben is innocent so is O.J., because it was a gold digger right?
    HA HA HA

  51. This BlueEyeDevils character is a real piece of work. Talks big hiding behind his monitor. Very likely he is a puny pimply-faced greasy loser who is afraid of being out in public and with no other way to communicate with people other then on the internet like this. He feels safer doing it that way and can act like a big boy. He is obviously a mental midget since he has not made a single valid educated point yet in any of his posts. But apparently he likes the attention of spamming like he is doing here today.
    Have fun loser, we are laughing at you.

  52. khall says:
    March 22, 2010 11:41 AM
    So RealityPolice, you are also “bluestree”? Because that is who my comment was clearly directed to.
    ================================
    I was replying to the following comment from you, which is not clearly directed at anybody. It does refer to bluestree but also says “a few comments have pointed out”. I assumed since I was one of the people who pointed it out (the no charges part, not the gold digger part), that I was free to reply:
    khall says:
    March 22, 2010 10:36 AM
    “A few comments have pointed out that Ben has not been charged and no crime proven, maybe this girl is just a gold digger, etc. Let me point out what is known and what BEN HAS ADMITTED TO;
    He says he had consensual sex with the girl”. –bluestree
    ===================================
    Also, this statement is extemely foolish:
    If their sources are so credible as you suggest, then why not give their names? Wouldn’t that then erase the doubt given their allegations/comments when they are simply called “unnamed sources”?
    =====================
    There are many, many reasons people comment anonymously. They may be tied to the investigation and forbidden by superiors to comment. Reporters have always used information from anonymous sources, and in fact have gone to jail to protect the identity of sources. So saying that you can only believe a source that is willing to stand up and be named is ridiculous.
    In fact, people who are eager to get their names and faces in public in cases like this are usually less-than-reliable publicity seekers, like those idiot bouncers at the club who couldn’t get on TV fast enough.
    KDKA is not the National Enquirer. They are a high enough profile station that if they made a habit out of single sourcing their news, using unreliable sources, or flat-out making things up, it would be known by now. I feel comfortable referencing information from them. Maybe your problem is you don’t understand how the news business works or are just naturally distrustful of things you can’t comprehend.

  53. Blue Eyed Devils;
    This is the last time I will respond to one of your posts. You are an unintelligent racist fool, and I am afraid that continuing to read your posts may somehow damage my brain.
    I am only writing this because I don’t want you to think that my unwillingness to debate you means you’ve won, it’s just that there are enough people here who actually have something to say that I don’t need to bother with the likes of you.
    Don’t bother responding, I’m not even going to read it.

  54. # BlueEyeDevils says: March 22, 2010 11:47 AM
    Laxer37 says:
    March 22, 2010 10:24 AM
    BlueEyedDevil was probably one of those mental midgets that threw a party when O.J. got off.
    Be careful confusing right and wrong with balck and white.
    We’ll find out if Ben is guilty soon enough. If he’s indicted, he’ll be suspended. If he’s convicted he’ll be out of the league and will serve time.
    In the mean time, comparing him to an ex-con like Mike Vick or a 6-time loser like the late Chris Henry is a bit premature.
    —————————————
    “If it don’t fit – must acquit”……………. ha ha ha
    By, the way, Nicole Simpson was a gold digger just like “YOU” people say of the victims that were raped by the “Great Hope”, so I guess if Ben is innocent so is O.J., because it was a gold digger right?
    HA HA HA
    *********************************************
    You are aware that the Blue Eyed Devils are a Neo-Nazi band, right? I couldn’t figure out if you were some super confused 17 year old white skinhead from suburban Virginia or what.
    If you’re using that screen name thinking that it’s obvious what it means and that you’re being offensive, you’re actually sending out pretty mixed signals, Sir Smarts.

  55. realitypolice says:
    March 22, 2010 11:46 AM
    It’s obvious why “YOU” people feared the obvious, by the result of the 1st black president accomplished when 200 years of “Losers” couldn’t do………….
    ============================
    Could you try typing in english? Trying to figure your semi-literate points is giving me a headache.
    Yes, by using back-room Chicago style corrupt politics, lying to the american people and abandoning his base, Barack managed to pass a bill the majority of the american people didn’t want.
    This fall the American people begin to correct their mistake by taking away his democratic majority in congress, and in 2012 we sweep him out of office.
    —————————————
    That’s like calling the kettle black……….ha ha ha
    “Could you try typing in English”? I think you meant to say “Would you try typing words that are in the English literature”, because you really can’t type in a particular language – it’s the spelling, grammar and combination of words that determine a particular language.
    “Barack managed to pass a bill the majority of the american ” American is a proper noun, therefore should be capitalized.
    “This fall the American people begin to correct” I think you meant to type “This Fall the American people will begin to correct”.
    You’re welcome 🙂
    You are funny…………….
    HA HA HA

  56. realitypolice says:
    March 22, 2010 12:14 PM
    Blue Eyed Devils;
    This is the last time I will respond to one of your posts. You are an unintelligent racist fool, and I am afraid that continuing to read your posts may somehow damage my brain.
    ————————————
    No need to worry – I doubt very seriously your brain is subject to any further damage…………….
    HA HA HA

  57. RealityPolice, Mr. High and Mighty, I know it’s difficult, but try and keep up. That comment I added was one I quoted from bluestree, it was not mine, hence the “quotation marks”!
    “A few comments have pointed out that Ben has not been charged and no crime proven, maybe this girl is just a gold digger, etc. Let me point out what is known and what BEN HAS ADMITTED TO; He says he had consensual sex with the girl”. –bluestree
    THEN I wrote my own comment.
    See? Do you comprehend now? Am I being as condescending as you now?
    And I’m so happy that you feel comfortable referencing information found in an article on KDKA and their use of comments from unnamed sources as facts because you have such a vast knowledge of what is truth and what is just an attempt at going with the most sensational story. Because of course, they would never attempt to to go that route to garner the most reads.
    Lemming!

  58. The Steelers released WR Cedrick Wilson because his girlfriend reported he slapped her in a resturant to the police. The next day she took it back however he didn’t get his job back. If the Steelers’ management played on a level playing field, Ben should have been long gone. No, Wilson was not charged or even went to court on this.
    Pacman Jones doesn’t play anymore because he got into fights OFF the field. BIG DEAL sarcastically I say. Gone.
    Where’s the fairness?
    At the end of the day, bu-bye Ben.

  59. Reba… You still think BR’s guilty in the Nevada case, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.
    Admit it, you’re just a garden variety man-hater.

  60. Roger Goddell needs to intervene immediately and suspend BR for 3-5 years and fine him $10M US. Send the message to all NFL players and the fans that only good athletic behavior will be allowed in the NFL.No longer is it acceptable to be arrested, and or behavior along those lines, No longer is it acceptable to to act like some MTV punk thug, ignorant “bling” idiot( think Jamarkuss foo boyl, or is that fat boy?), to flop and jive as if the NFL were the dance line on Soul Train. This is football. A showcase for athletic talent only. If your best effort does not speak for you, then you are in the wrong venue.Stop all the fairy tale, silly assed celebrity worship nonsense. Give us your best efforts, athletically, only, and you will be paid for those efforts. We tune in to see football, and football only.

  61. Blue Eyed Douche
    Ive been commenting for a week on this site and I am sick of your shit….Obviously you hold some kind of grudge against us white americans. Which you should because your great grand daddy was my families slave…and isn’t Obama half white, raised by a white family, daddy left him, like all typical people of that race.

  62. @Spoonthis; Sex or “sexual contact”, I don’t think it matters as far as my point. Any kind of sexual activity in a public place is typically illegal, and should be grounds for suspension. The key isn’t his marital status. You can’t have sex in public! As far as why he was there, I read the bar promoted his appearance as “Benapalooza”, so I perhaps incorrectly infered that he was on board. Are you saying he got no consideration for celebrating at that club? Maybe so. And perhaps I’m guilty of taking some things from the media as gospel, no harm intended. But the Glen Beck comment? Dude that was a serious low blow. Santa Claus has more credibility than Fox’s resident fruitcake.
    @khall; Please don’t confuse me with realitypolice. He seems to be a wing-nut. I may have made some assumptions based on reporting I have read that may or may not be accurate. But please bear in mind I’m just a douchebag football fan with a dsl connection. The crux of my point is that an NFL quarterback that has sex of any kind in a public bathroom should be subject to the same dicisipline as a guy that smokes a joint, or inadvertently takes a diuretic.

  63. CaptainObvious,
    No I am not a man-hater. I hate a man that abuses women. Yes, where there is smoke there is fire and there are 2 women who complained about the same thing. Ben has mysteriously disappeared now, won’t talk to police, doesn’t show up to camp as he has every year and cancelled a golf tournament. It doesn’t matter if the camp is voluntary, he’s shown up every year. He needs it based on those pictures. He must be almost 280 now. Fat and fugly.
    Let GA talk to NV, compare notes, then watch them both file charges now.

  64. khall-
    And I’m so happy that you feel comfortable referencing information found in an article on KDKA and their use of comments from unnamed sources as facts because you have such a vast knowledge of what is truth and what is just an attempt at going with the most sensational story. Because of course, they would never attempt to to go that route to garner the most reads.
    ==============================
    I have no idea what the truth is and neither do you. I have never claimed otherwise. Only fools claim to know things they couldn’t possibly know. I wasn’t there, and neither were you. You choose not to believe anything you hear, I choose to examine the source of a piece of information and the context in which it was delivered and decide whether to give it the benefit of the doubt.
    Do you honestly believe that ever news outlet in America fabricates all of their stories to generate reads? That seems a little less intelligent than giving a large, reputable, well known TV station in a major market the benefit of the doubt when publishing information from anonymous sources. I understand that sometimes people have to remain anonymous even when they tell the truth- you believe that only liars remain anonymous. You may be right, but my position seems a little more logical.
    I apologize for taking your previous post out of context and replying to it. I will try to be more careful next time. I would suggest, however, that if you are going to be that concerned about who does or does not reply to your posts, you are in the wrong place.

  65. You guys are fools to let BlueEyeDevils spin you up – he’s probably a 13 year old white kid (Florio Jr.?) going through his rebellious phase.

  66. bluestree, my apologies! You’re right, I shoul have known better, it’s obvious realitypolice is so far above the rest of us posters (at least in his mind anyway!).

  67. @Deb….Ed Bouchette thinks professional help may be in order for ben…..an opinion from the Burgh…I have heard this same opinion before…
    Just messin with you……

  68. @ REBA No I am not a man-hater. I hate a man that abuses women. Yes, where there is smoke there is fire and there are 2 women who complained about the same thing. Ben has mysteriously disappeared now, won’t talk to police, doesn’t show up to camp as he has every year and cancelled a golf tournament. It doesn’t matter if the camp is voluntary, he’s shown up every year. He needs it based on those pictures. He must be almost 280 now. Fat and fugly
    I had to laugh at this, because we all know different, that you do hate men, well all me named Ben , but that is anotherstory and I wont bore people with your and Bens dirty laundry.
    but I want to point out some facts that you obviously do not know, when asked about Ben not showing up at camp, it was reported that he usually doesnt show up till OTAS this is not OTAS this is voluntary work outs,,, and Him not making an appearance at the golf tournament well it is damned it he would have went, I could have heard all of you on here if he would have still went, and went on with his life, but now I guess he chooses to stay out of the spotlight, well Damned if you do.
    But I love how every one on here can specualte about what happened, we do not know that , and Do I think he will be charged, no I do not , because if they had enough probable cause and enough witness testimony a warrant would have done been issued , the longer they are taking is not because they want to be sure, I think they know thier case is weak \
    This with Goodel is just something for the media to have something to write about since the investigators in GA are dragging their feet , they need their daily Ben fix, but If he is not charged with any criminal conduct , then they can not suspend him, it is not illegal to go and drink in a bar and pick a woman, because as of right now that is all he did, it is just an accusation.
    if that was the case then half of the players in the NFL would be suspended. They can require him to seek counseling and they should, because I do agree he seems to keep putting himself in these situations, but if they would suspend him with out just cause and no inditment, they would open thier selves to be sued .

  69. @ reality police I agree with what you said, a TV station is not going to take a chance of being held liable for misinformation, Now if that had been reported on a blog, then I would be leary of the info , but since you brought that up I ran up on a interesting article on there last night and I will share it.
    Investigators Speak To Witnesses In Big Ben Probe
    Authorities in Georgia are making progress in their efforts to interview witnesses but there is more work ahead.
    Ben Roethlisberger took a photograph with his entourage, setting out on a bus ride to celebrate the quarterback’s 28th birthday in Georgia.
    The group ended up in the town of Milledgeville where in the early morning hours of March 5 a 20-year-old college student would accuse Roethlisberger of sexual assault.
    Tom Davis, the lead investigator in the case, told KDKA-TV’s Andy Sheehan that police have interviewed all but one of those people with Roethlisberger at the time.
    Sources confirm among them was Coraopolis police officer Tony Barravechio who earlier traveled back to Georgia to be questioned.
    The same sources believe but cannot confirm that State police trooper Ed Joyner, who was also there that night, did the same.
    Police spoke with Roethlisberger the night of the alleged incident but thus far Roethlisberger’s attorney has not allowed his client to be re-interviewed.
    But Sheehan’s sources say those in his entourage told police what Roethlisberger told them – that he did not have sexual intercourse with the young woman, that whatever happened between them was consensual and that she stumbled and injured her head.
    But Investigator Davis said the investigation has a way to go, that it will likely be three to four weeks before it’s all wrapped up.

  70. Sources Reveal Roethlisberger’s Version Of Events
    Sources tell the KDKA Investigators that Ben Roethlisberger did speak with police in Milledgeville the night of the alleged assault and told them there was no sexual intercourse between himself and the alleged victim.
    Sources say Roethlisberger concedes that he did have contact with the woman that was not consummated and that afterward the woman slipped and fell, injuring her head.
    http://kdka.com/video
    http://kdka.com/sports/Ben.Roethlisberger.allegations.2.1552180.html

  71. Took Obama to do what a list of losers couldn’t do………….
    ————
    Create highest federal deficit ever?
    Not even the Bushies could do that, combined.

  72. Ignore BlueEyeDevils and he will get banned sooner.
    Write 10-15 comments arguing with him is what he wants, Florio too.
    Comments are suggestive, but borderline enough to get away with.

  73. BigBen and LittleBen will get a scolding, undergo counseling but won’t face any real punishment until #3 or #4 happen.
    Won’t be too long.
    Idiot realize prostitution is legal in Nevada?
    Nice place in Pahrump, hour outside Vegas with a nice lineup much better than the trash he has gotten caught with. Really only one worth going to though, other places are on par with what he likes.
    Goggle it Benny.

  74. bunbun says: March 22, 2010 1:05 PM
    Roger Goddell needs to intervene immediately and suspend BR for 3-5 years and fine him $10M US. Send the message to all NFL players and the fans that only good athletic behavior will be allowed in the NFL.
    ===============================================
    Huh? Suspend him 3-5 years and fine him $10 million for having apparently consensual sexual contact (not rape) with an adult woman?
    What planet do you live on?
    Right now, we don’t know if Ben is guilty of anything more than just stupidity. If this turns out that Ben merely got his pecker tied up with another gold digger, he’ll get off without anything more than a lecture from Goodell about being stupid. If he’s convicted of 4th degree sexual assault, he gets a couple game suspension to attend sensitivity training. If he convicted of rape (nothing along these lines in any report to date) , a suspension is irrelevant because he would be spending the next 5-10 years in Georgia prison.
    Your $10 million fine is in la-la land.

  75. Goodell on the phone with his broker…
    ————————————————–
    “I’ve already put the plan into play, Irv! I’ll be setting up the meeting this week! You need to get me as much stock in the Schenectady Scaffold Company as you can find!”

  76. It is so funny how people get on this site and think that they are the smartest person in the room (Captain Obvious) and they really are not (Captain Obvious). Let me guess you work in a steel mill and big Ben is your hero. If you or I were in the same situation we would already be in jail awaiting trial. This guy is bad for the NFL and most likely he will PAY off this woman because he has money. You are so stupid to think that people with money and the less fortunate are judged the same way. Do not talk to me about dying to defend the Constitution! You do not know me.

  77. bluestree says: March 22, 2010 9:39 AM
    Ben never said he had sex with that girl.. See how demented some of you are . He said they had sexual “contact” but no intercourse. I know to the boys who still “play” while reading their playboys in their childhood bedrooms think sexual contact is intercourse.. you are in for a big awakening.

  78. @Mista T
    I live on planet earth
    I am acutely aware that every NFL players contract has a behavior clause. It states, I do NOT quote here, that any player who brings undue attention to himself, the NFL, etc. while under contract is subject to penalty of fine, suspension, up-to lifetime ban from the league. My statements due not reach into the realm of the courtroom. Roger Goddell has the power and authority NOW, with this scant evidence to slap BR with a lifetime suspension.
    I for one am sick and tired of the crappy behavior and low life scum that are NFL players these days. If Roger Goddell comes down hard and heavy on these sleaze bags, does so early on, sends the message to all the NFL flakes, criminals and ignorant hoodlums that only good athletic behavior is tolerated then the scum will fall in line or find another venue to act stupid in. I am no longer willing to buy the NFL product with all the shitheads that make themselves obvious.

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