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Dropping of DNA request has no relevance to Roethlisberger case

Plenty of you have expressed to us a belief that the decision of authorities in Georgia to drop the request for a DNA sample from Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is a sign that the next thing to be dropped will be any and all charges against him arising from the March 5 allegations of sexual assault.

And plenty of you have expressed to us a belief that the move means that the authorities already have more than enough evidence, and that they have decided they don’t need anything more.

We think it’s neither reason.

In our view, the DNA evidence isn’t necessary, given reports that Roethlisberger agreed that “sexual contact” occurred.

Of course, if it wasn’t necessary, why did the authorities want it?  Maybe they simply wanted to see whether Roethlisberger would truly cooperate with the investigation.  And maybe they wanted jurors in the Court of Public Opinion to know the answer to that question, too.

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62 Responses to “Dropping of DNA request has no relevance to Roethlisberger case”
  1. JustinG says: Mar 23, 2010 11:25 PM

    Why does Florio make it his mission to troll Roethlisberger? lol. Nutswinging comes to mind. I wonder why he has it out for this dude.

  2. Ca_Viking says: Mar 23, 2010 11:27 PM

    Florio, a fake lawyer, gives the impression that he knows stuff, but he’s a “fake” lwyer who doesn’t have a clue what “real” law is.
    The case is over, no evidence, F*CK Florio and his retarded son!!!

  3. pelters says: Mar 23, 2010 11:28 PM

    or maybe they just wanted to clone a mini Roethlisberger.

  4. pelters says: Mar 23, 2010 11:28 PM

    or maybe they just wanted to clone a mini Roethlisberger.

  5. ItalianArmyGuy says: Mar 23, 2010 11:29 PM

    Florio –
    You are overlooking today’s report from the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, in which Ben’s lawyer and the Georgia investigators all agreed that the DNA request was dropped because “there was nothing to compare it to” – she had none of his DNA on her person or on her clothes. The rape test at the hospital apparently turned up nothing from him. Since that rules out their ability to forensically prove a criminal case, it would appear that if they want to build a case against him, it is going to have to be more of a “he said – she said” affair.
    His “agreement” that sexual contact occurred that you alluded to is apparently not what made the DNA evidence unnecessary – the investigators admitted to the paper that they have no physical evidence from her to compare it to.

  6. Tommy_Blah05 says: Mar 23, 2010 11:34 PM

    Send him to prison.

  7. Lights Out 56 says: Mar 23, 2010 11:36 PM

    I think your full of bologna.

  8. ggoldman says: Mar 23, 2010 11:42 PM

    the authorities already questioned Roethlisberger the night of the alleged incident, so they knew what he said way before they wanted a DNA sample from him. They didnt fond out about the sexual contact the same time the media found out about it, so they did want his DNA for something.

  9. Markle says: Mar 23, 2010 11:47 PM

    did the girl take a lie detector test yet?

  10. Raider Pride says: Mar 23, 2010 11:48 PM

    Interesting perspective Mr, Florio.
    This is why PFT legal analysis is always very interesting.
    However, in a case as high profile as this why would the D.A. not go for a slam dunk? Could it be they have exepted a plea bargain from Ben’s camp?

  11. MasterShake says: Mar 23, 2010 11:50 PM

    Maybe they have enough? A sample from Nevada, a sample from Georgia, etc… who is this guy? Johnny Appleseed? He’s plowed more fields in different states than John Deere. Even if he gets banned from football he has another high paying job lined up. Sperm donor.
    Booo!!!!

  12. BuckFigBen says: Mar 24, 2010 12:00 AM

    Maybe they secretly wanted to clone big ben and start a super raping army of fat guys with greasy hair.

  13. turkish91 says: Mar 24, 2010 12:15 AM

    Folks, there are a million things going on with this case that are not public information. There is no way to know to a certainty what this means. People who are calling for Roethlisberger’s head- chill. People who want to have his babies- chill. We’re still a ways off from knowing what the DA actually has. Florio, I don’t always agree with you and do think you sometimes favor/disfavor certain teams over others, but I agree the DA could have been playing a PR angle here. I do NOT think this means the case is closed- if this were truly exculpatory (look it up), Roethlisberger’s people would be ALL OVER every media outlet they could crowing about how he’s been unfairly persecuted, blah, blah, blah. They’re not. Read into this what you want, but I still think dude is in some deep doo-doo.

  14. Matt says: Mar 24, 2010 12:18 AM

    My hunch is that they just wanted to find a reason to have yet another meaningless thread be created about this story on PFT. After seeing how many people respond to this story, we’ll see how successful they were.

  15. BlueEyeDevils. says: Mar 24, 2010 12:23 AM

    I have done some reflecting and maybe Ben is not guilty afterall.
    I now realize that this case has nothing to do with race.
    Sorry for wasting everone’s time with my tired, pointless rants.

  16. BlueEyeDevils says: Mar 24, 2010 12:23 AM

    JustinG says:
    March 23, 2010 11:25 PM
    Why does Florio make it his mission to troll Roethlisberger? lol. Nutswinging comes to mind. I wonder why he has it out for this dude.
    ————————————-
    The same way that most of “YOU” people have it out for Mike Vick.
    Karma is a biatch………………
    HA HA HA

  17. BuckFigBen says: Mar 24, 2010 12:23 AM

    Maybe Ben’s just empty.

  18. BlueEyeDevils says: Mar 24, 2010 12:26 AM

    I think this whole thing is hilarious!
    Watching “YOU” people squirm when your golden boy is under the same microscope that Mike Vick was under, but “YOU” people didn’t seem to be as sympathetic as you are now………
    HA HA HA
    I’m enjoying this……………..
    HA HA HA

  19. Canyonero says: Mar 24, 2010 12:27 AM

    “Of course, if it wasn’t necessary, why did the authorities want it?”
    ————-
    Well, for the same reason the police ask you to pop open the trunk of your car when they pull you over..
    The police want to gather as much evidence as possible in every instance, on the assumption that the person they are dealing with is guilty.
    If it turns out they don’t need a particular thing, they abandon the request – but they always ask.

  20. The Devil says: Mar 24, 2010 12:31 AM

    florio,
    admit it..your posting again just to get some page views and this has no relevance to any current event.

  21. lotusfather says: Mar 24, 2010 12:34 AM

    “We think”
    I didn’t get any farther than that.
    That is the part that doesn’t matter, and makes this article useless. Nobody cares what you think.

  22. DB26 says: Mar 24, 2010 12:45 AM

    In all honesty, I believe the detective who posed for the picture with him in the midst of his being accused wanted Ben to provide a specimen sample so that he could swallow it.
    They dropped the DNA because he is white. (LMFAO, what would a legal /BR post be without that comment?)

  23. ItalianArmyGuy says: Mar 24, 2010 12:49 AM

    @MasterShake – The Nevada attorney said he is not cooperating with the Georgia authorities, so I don’t think its possible that they have gathered DNA from two locations.

  24. iusedtobeteddybayer says: Mar 24, 2010 1:01 AM

    CONJECTURE, YOU lil’ MIDGET.
    Every way this plays out, your post is pureconjecture and as a midget attorney, you know better.

  25. boltmancraft says: Mar 24, 2010 1:02 AM

    Man…if Ben was a Charger AND Ladainian Tomlinson’s love child, Florio would REALLY hate his guts.

  26. yinzburgh says: Mar 24, 2010 1:13 AM

    This case will be dropped before the draft, then Florio can go back to talking about the new post season overtime rule change!

  27. nerd says: Mar 24, 2010 1:25 AM

    They got plenty of samples from the trailer park next to the tavern where the alleged incident took place.

  28. BlueEyeDevils says: Mar 24, 2010 2:02 AM

    BlueEyeDevils. says:
    March 24, 2010 12:23 AM
    I have done some reflecting and maybe Ben is not guilty afterall.
    I now realize that this case has nothing to do with race.
    Sorry for wasting everone’s time with my tired, pointless rants.
    ————————————
    Nice try “Cheap Imposter” but you left a “period” after my name…………
    HA HA HA
    But I’ll take it as a confession that I get under your skin………………….
    HA HA HA

  29. steelerer says: Mar 24, 2010 2:13 AM

    “sign that the next thing to be dropped will be any and all charges against him arising from the March 5 allegations of sexual assault”
    What charges? Im under the impression he hasnt been charged.

  30. Rafterman says: Mar 24, 2010 4:32 AM

    LMAO!
    It’s over, just like I’ve been saying for days.

  31. WeegieFanClub says: Mar 24, 2010 5:58 AM

    Ca_Viking,
    Resorting to calling someone’s son retarded is pretty equal to admitting that you have no class and that you cannot think of anything else to say. Don’t make the Black and Gold faithful look bad. We will argure for ourselves. Some of us are actually educated and do not speak that way.

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  33. Ravenmaniac says: Mar 24, 2010 6:42 AM

    @italianarmyguy…so she had a rape test at the hospital?? I thought she went to be treated for the “fall” in the bathroom….

  34. 8man says: Mar 24, 2010 6:52 AM

    Nothing to see or hear here. Hear here?
    Anyway, until charges are filed, if ever, this at the most, is a dying…..err….a developing story.
    Allegedly.

  35. NoKoolaidCowboy says: Mar 24, 2010 6:54 AM

    Guess finding DNA from Ben isn’t too hard to find.

  36. FNGS says: Mar 24, 2010 7:22 AM

    Markle says:
    March 23, 2010 11:47 PM
    did the girl take a lie detector test yet?
    ————————————————————
    Maybe Big Ben should be the one to take the lie detector test since he has nothing to hide. You know the coward will never do that.

  37. DogPound says: Mar 24, 2010 7:28 AM

    Send the big headed jerk to jail!!!

  38. Audient says: Mar 24, 2010 7:35 AM

    Part of the disservice that has come to the justice system from the public watching all these CSI dramas on TV, is the idea that DNA evidence is necessary in all cases. It isn’t.
    If here isn’t any question about the suspect’s identity and whether there was sexual contact — if the questions involve the surrounding circumstances, then DNA evidence isn’t helpful. DNA doesn’t reveal, for instance, whether there was consent.
    Go ahead and rag on Florio for being Florio — but he’s right on this.

  39. JPeezy says: Mar 24, 2010 8:05 AM

    No relevance Foolio? Not what the leading forensics expert in America had to say:
    “orensic expert Dr. Cyril Wecht said the fact that police have declined to take a DNA sample from Mr. Roethlisberger means that it’s likely there is no forensic evidence to back up the woman’s claims.
    “When you don’t have any biological evidence, you have to decide whether you want to proceed with what the purported victim has stated,” he said.
    Dr. Wecht said it’s likely she was examined for signs of sexual assault there. If police have no comparable sample, it’s likely that the exam of her and her clothing yielded no foreign biological specimens. such as semen, hair or saliva, he said.
    But in their investigation, police have only indicated that they are investigating a “sexual assault,” and have declined to elaborate on the accusations made against Mr. Roethlisberger. Dr. Wecht pointed out that some kinds of sexual assault — such as a “superficial altercation” — and some types of sexual contact — such as oral sex — could leave no biological calling cards.”

  40. jallen69 says: Mar 24, 2010 8:09 AM

    When this all comes out out guilty or not the guy will forever be labeled as a scumbag

  41. enders says: Mar 24, 2010 8:17 AM

    Just find him guilty and put him in the electric chair. The world will be a better place. It will definitely be a better place if he doesn’t have any kids yet… can’t have his kind living on.

  42. Chexmate35 says: Mar 24, 2010 8:55 AM

    Nobody has it out for Ben, he did this to himself..

  43. FoozieGrooler says: Mar 24, 2010 9:15 AM

    Well, that’s one pointless Florio article today about Roethlisberger. There’s still two more coming later today.
    There are no journalists left in the world today, only newspaper salesman and page hit count whores.

  44. AllThat says: Mar 24, 2010 9:20 AM

    Leave OverTime alone…

  45. realitypolice says: Mar 24, 2010 9:20 AM

    In our view, the DNA evidence isn’t necessary, given reports that Roethlisberger agreed that “sexual contact” occurred.
    =======================
    Nice job, Florio, finally reaching the conclusion many of us having posting from the start. Better late than never, I guess.

  46. FoozieGrooler says: Mar 24, 2010 9:21 AM

    “# FNGS says:
    Maybe Big Ben should be the one to take the lie detector test since he has nothing to hide. You know the coward will never do that.”
    First of all, he’s doing exactly as he’s been advised from a very prominent defense lawyer.
    Why would anyone hire a lawyer, then not take his advise? Are you really that stupid?
    Secondly, he’s not required to prove his innocence, the Constitution says so. It’s up to the accuser and/or the authorities to prove he’s guilty. Yea, I guess you really are that stupid.

  47. jcjets says: Mar 24, 2010 9:22 AM

    Yeah, way to jump to conclusions. Like others have said, a much more plausible explanation is that they don’t need his DNA because they didn’t find any to compare it to.
    He still could have assaulted or “manhandled” her, but seems like this is a BIG time clue he didn’t rape her.

  48. realitypolice says: Mar 24, 2010 9:32 AM

    FNGS says:
    March 24, 2010 7:22 AM
    Markle says:
    March 23, 2010 11:47 PM
    did the girl take a lie detector test yet?
    ————————————————————
    Maybe Big Ben should be the one to take the lie detector test since he has nothing to hide. You know the coward will never do that.
    ================
    Maybe no one should take a lie detector test since they are notoriously unreliable and inadmissable in court.
    You watch too much TV.

  49. GoBrowns19 says: Mar 24, 2010 9:54 AM

    I don’t understand why they don’t give everyone a lie detector test. It’s the easiest way to find if someone’s lying or not duh.

  50. PFTiswhatitis says: Mar 24, 2010 10:02 AM

    He’s already been found guilty. They are just waiting for the construction of a cell large enough for his head before they actually charge the gonk.

  51. CaptainObvious says: Mar 24, 2010 10:06 AM

    “# GoBrowns19 says: March 24, 2010 9:54 AM
    I don’t understand why they don’t give everyone a lie detector test. It’s the easiest way to find if someone’s lying or not duh.”
    Because it would serve no purpose, being as it’s inadmissible in court as evidence?
    Why not just call in a psychic to read some tea leaves?
    You could have summed up that entire post just using your last word.

  52. Bdrunk says: Mar 24, 2010 10:21 AM

    Couldn’t you just post this as a comment in the other thread?
    FLORI-OWNED

  53. CaptainObvious says: Mar 24, 2010 10:35 AM

    “Outlaw Jersey Whales says: March 24, 2010 6:27 AM
    Pittsburgh Post Gazette, want ad section….”
    Why don’t you post this again?
    There are still some people who may have missed it the first 30 times you posted it.
    Idiot.

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  55. Deb says: Mar 24, 2010 11:56 AM

    Florio, Carl Prine of the Tribune-Review called the Georgia authorities and asked why they dropped the DNA request. They said it was because they had no DNA from the accuser to match. Period. Anything else is wild speculation.
    @GoBrowns19 … They can’t force either the accused OR the accuser to take a lie detector test. And the results would not be admissible in court if they did. Frequently, lie detector results are “inconclusive,” so that puts everyone back at square one anyway.
    @EVERYONE … The police said in both their press conferences that the accusation IS NOT RAPE. Since the girl did not claim to be raped, I doubt they did a “rape kit” at the hospital. A full rape workup includes a pelvic exam. If no intercourse was involved, I don’t think the girl would have wanted to have a pelvic exam. That’s about as much fun for women as a prostate exam is for men.

  56. packdog says: Mar 24, 2010 1:50 PM

    It’s pretty sloppy writing to say “any and all charges may be dropped” when, in fact, none have been filed.

  57. khall says: Mar 24, 2010 5:30 PM

    Think this will end up like the Sapp case?
    Prosecutors for the Miami-Dade state attorney’s office informed Judge Carroll Kelly that they have dropped a misdemeanor domestic battery charge against former NFL defensive tackle Warren Sapp.
    A female acquaintance of Sapp’s alleged that she had an altercation with him at about 6 a.m. ET on Feb. 6 at the Shore Club Hotel in Miami Beach, where Sapp was staying while working for the NFL Network. The accuser told police detectives that she and her friends were partying with Sapp at the hotel when she grew tired and asked Sapp for his room key.
    The woman said Sapp came to the room a few hours later, woke her up and they began to argue. According to the arrest affidavit, the woman claimed Sapp choked her, pushed her down on a couch, grabbed her by her shirt and neck and threw her down again. The affidavit also stated the accuser had a swollen knee and bruises on her neck.
    According to a prosecution memo, further investigation uncovered problems with the victim’s account. For example, she told police that a man helped her walk down a hotel hallway, but surveillance video shows her walking with the man unassisted. She also told investigators that she had trouble walking after the alleged attack, but surveillance footage shows that she walked without a limp.
    “Victim gave sworn testimony that she was in excruciating pain from the moment she fell on her knee and was teary-eyed while in the lobby moments after the incident,” the memo states. “However, there is a security witness who observed the victim giggling with an anonymous man, as well as walking in high heels without any trouble.”
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5023714

  58. khall says: Mar 24, 2010 5:35 PM

    “Sapp had told investigators that he let the woman stay in his room but asked her to leave a few hours later. Sapp said she fell on her leg when he tried to help her get off a couch.”
    Hmmm, sounds similar to what Roethlisberger is said to have said about the alleged victim in his case:
    “Sources say Roethlisberger concedes that he did have contact with the woman that was not consummated and that afterward the woman slipped and fell, injuring her head.”
    http://kdka.com/sports/Ben.Roethlisberger.allegations.2.1552180.html

  59. Deb says: Mar 24, 2010 6:07 PM

    @khall …
    Aren’t you the one who reminded me that there’s been no official confirmation that Roethlisberger said anything about the woman hitting her head?

  60. khall says: Mar 24, 2010 6:22 PM

    Deb, yes I am. Which is why I wrote it the way I did? Doesn’t anyone read anything anymore?
    “Hmmm, sounds similar to what Roethlisberger IS SAID to have said about the alleged victim in his case:”
    Anyway, wonder what relevance Florio says this breaking news has?
    “Not only do prosecutors apparently not have any physical evidence of a crime, they may also be lacking a cooperating victim at this point.
    Sources close to the investigation say that investigators have had trouble re-interviewing the woman since the night of the incident.
    Sources say the 20-year-old co-ed did not show up for a scheduled interview a week ago yesterday and that as of Friday she still had not come in to be questioned.”
    http://kdka.com/sports/Ben.Roethlisberger.investigation.2.1587357.html

  61. Rafterman says: Mar 24, 2010 7:23 PM

    “Not only do prosecutors apparently not have any physical evidence of a crime, they may also be lacking a cooperating victim at this point.
    Sources close to the investigation say that investigators have had trouble re-interviewing the woman since the night of the incident.
    Sources say the 20-year-old co-ed did not show up for a scheduled interview a week ago yesterday and that as of Friday she still had not come in to be questioned.”
    http://kdka.com/sports/Ben.Roethlisberger.investigation.2.1587357.html
    Damn straight skippy!
    Where’s Florio with this info?

  62. Deb says: Mar 24, 2010 8:54 PM

    @khall …
    You got me. I read your second post on Sapp/Roethlisberger but not your first. Sorry about that!

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