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Safety wins in new overtime

MDS and I have wondered over the last few weeks what happens if there is a safety in the now accepted overtime format.

We assumed a safety would win the game, and Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times confirms that’s correct.

Yes, it’s strange that two points could win the game if an initial possession field goal won’t win the game. But it would be far, far stranger to keep playing. 

The idea here is that both teams get a chance to score unless the first team to get the ball scores a touchdown. That would be the case when a safety happens. 

If a safety occurs, both teams will have had their chance.  The team on offense that started with the ball instead gave points to the other team.  It makes no sense to give that team another chance with the ball, just to perform a free kick down 2-0. 

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35 Responses to “Safety wins in new overtime”
  1. efangule says: Mar 23, 2010 4:33 PM

    “The team had offense started with the ball instead gave points to the other team.”

    HUH?!

  2. chickenragnar says: Mar 23, 2010 4:34 PM

    Bad news for Packer fans.
    A. Rodgers has a propensity for taking safeties.
    Just ask Jared Allen.

  3. Gautam says: Mar 23, 2010 4:35 PM

    it would be retarded to have a team’s offense get the ball being 2-0 up in OT lol

  4. ChicagoJo says: Mar 23, 2010 4:35 PM

    Ha, I just posted a question about this on your other OT thread.
    Way to be on top of things, and not take cheap shots at the Bears, or mention Lord Favre, or rock a Rod Blagojevich hairstyle.

  5. CapsLockKey says: Mar 23, 2010 4:36 PM

    What happens if the team that is kicking of recovers the kick such as in an onside kick? They still need a TD or just a FG?

  6. copes cabana says: Mar 23, 2010 4:37 PM

    so what about an INT followed by a immediate field goal?

  7. Marv_Sleezy says: Mar 23, 2010 4:39 PM

    What if you intercept a pass in the endzone, then come out on a return, then run back in to the endzone and get tackled for a safety?
    What about that??

  8. New Calfornia Stadiums says: Mar 23, 2010 4:40 PM

    what if one team scores a field goal first… then the second team scores a saftey…. somehow
    would the winning team have the lower score?

  9. Stupac34 says: Mar 23, 2010 4:40 PM

    So would this also be the case with a pick six or fumble recovery TD by the defense?

  10. Nebster21 says: Mar 23, 2010 4:40 PM

    What about if the defense scores 6?

  11. AlanSaysYo says: Mar 23, 2010 4:41 PM

    Doesn’t this just further underscore how dumb this rule is? It’s OK for defense to score a safety and win the game, but if the defense gets scored on for 3 their team gets a mulligan? Stupid all around.

  12. Marv_Sleezy says: Mar 23, 2010 4:42 PM

    What if you get an onside kick and then punt and the other team scores? Do you get another shot?

  13. Ilovefoolsball says: Mar 23, 2010 4:46 PM

    what happens if the first team fumbles the ball and the second team then gets a field goal? Second team wins?

  14. Tony DeHoff says: Mar 23, 2010 4:48 PM

    I happen to like the old “sudden death” rule. Both teams had four quarters to win the game. I know I’m not the only one saying it but PLAY DEFENSE!! Both teams take the field in OT. Both get a chance at victory. This is not JUST an offensive sport.

  15. monger says: Mar 23, 2010 4:48 PM

    The rules already gave the kicking team a chance to get the first posession in OT and win. It’s called an onside kick.
    So now with this idiotic rule, what happens when the kicking team successfully completes an onside kick and scores a FG? Is that a “sudden death” win? or do they have to kick again because the other team didn’t get a possession? Or is an onside kick now illegal in OT?
    The rule change is completely stupid and completely unnecessary.

  16. Newguy says: Mar 23, 2010 4:50 PM

    What about a muffed kickoff?
    Or an onside kick recovered by the kicking team?

  17. NoKoolaidCowboy says: Mar 23, 2010 4:55 PM

    This is nonsense. There should be no overtime. There is a tie column. Teams should be playing all out 4 quarters.
    Overtime is just another opportunity for refs to blow calls and leave rules open for misinterpretation.
    True, it would require more math regarding ties but come on…

  18. trimitdan says: Mar 23, 2010 4:56 PM

    Uh, duh! If you suck that bad that you got a safety in overtime and your offense got backed up that far, then you truly deserve to lose!

  19. bluestree says: Mar 23, 2010 4:58 PM

    This whole rule makes no sense. If the first possession team kicks a field goal, punting is not an option for the team with second possession. That makes the competition uneven. There was nothing wrong with the coin toss and sudden death. What’s next, tweaking the ball so it alwas bounces straight up, giving each team an equal chance to recover a fumble? Chance has always been an element of the game. You can’t remove all chance, all they’ve done is devalue the kicking game. It’s called Foot-ball for a reason.

  20. funi says: Mar 23, 2010 5:03 PM

    So 2 points win a game, however 3 does not? Who does the math on that one, an SEC graduate?

  21. Bricketh says: Mar 23, 2010 5:04 PM

    What about an interception return that puts the “second team” in position for a field goal? Does the game continue in such an instance? In other words, the team that has the first possession turns the ball over, and the defense recovers and gets the ball to, say, within 15 yards of the goal line. The offense comes onto the field, and just runs 3 straight times to line up a field goal. If they convert the 3 points, does the game end under Sudden Death rules, or is it the “first to 6″ still?

  22. moe says: Mar 23, 2010 5:05 PM

    how about field goal shoot outs? lmao

  23. deepthreat says: Mar 23, 2010 5:10 PM

    I’m thinking that maybe the real problem is the COIN FLIP ITSELF.
    They need to come up with a better way to determine WHO TO GIVE THE BALL TO FIRST…
    They could go the Pete Rozelle parity route and give it to the visiting team or the team with the worst record.
    Or they could reward the team that has out-played the other team that day.
    Maybe come up with a possession tie-breaker list like they do for the playoffs. Time of possession… most touchdowns… most yards… last team to score…
    How about the team that lost the opening kickoff automatically wins the OT coin flip ???
    That would let coaches game plan a close game at the end.
    I kind of like that.
    I know… I need a hobby…

  24. buddycianci says: Mar 23, 2010 5:18 PM

    A lot of the comments here suggest that people don’t understand the long-standing rules of football, let alone this simple change.

  25. cofat03 says: Mar 23, 2010 5:23 PM

    God you guys are idiots. Don’t see the rule is designed so that both teams have a chance to score in OT UNLESS the first team scores a TD. So if the second team gets an INT or fumble that means the first team DIDN’T SCORE on their possession. So the 2nd team can win anyway it wants FG or INT. Same with a safety; the first team DIDN’T SCORE on their possession.
    Now I see why the government has to tell you guys how to run your lives.

  26. biglebronski10 says: Mar 23, 2010 5:27 PM

    Well, since I must have been begging for a migraine by choosing to read the comments of idiots, I guess I’ll try to sort this out for those of you without much brain activity.
    Nobody ever said 3 points doesn’t win the game. A field goal by the first team on offense wins the game IF the second team does not match it. Also, ANY field goal (or any points scored) breaking a tie AFTER the first team on offense has had possession WINS THE GAME. This includes turnovers, safeties, etc, because the first team had a possession and failed.
    I don’t possibly see how anyone can think that this makes 2 points better than 3. I guess some of you would like the team that fell victim to the safety to free kick and see if their defense can do any better. The only flaw there is that QBs are allowed to kill offensive plays by kneeling or spiking the ball.
    This isn’t rocket science.

  27. bigrig says: Mar 23, 2010 5:35 PM

    What if the receiving team in OT throws an interception, and during the runback the intercepting team fumbles, can the offense then recover the fumble and kick a field goal to win the game? Or do they still need a TD?
    Wow, what a Pandora’s Box the league has opened.

  28. AnnoyingKnowItAll says: Mar 23, 2010 5:35 PM

    ok, this is completely wild-eyed, but what if….
    Colts-Chargers OT scenerio in a tied 20-20 game
    Colts begin overtime with kick off to Chargers.
    Charges drive for FG. Chargers 23- Colts 20
    Colts recieve kickoff drive to 10 yardline, 1st and goal.
    Colts throw interception on 2 yardline.
    FUMBLE!
    Ball inadvertently kicked in endzone.
    Chargers recover… Safety.
    Under the current rule as Farmar describes where a saftey wins the game do the colts win Colts win 22-23?
    Ummmmm… am i missing something?????

  29. buddycianci says: Mar 23, 2010 6:17 PM

    # AnnoyingKnowItAll says: March 23, 2010 5:35 PM
    ok, this is completely wild-eyed, but what if….
    Colts-Chargers OT scenerio in a tied 20-20 game
    Colts begin overtime with kick off to Chargers.
    Charges drive for FG. Chargers 23- Colts 20
    Colts recieve kickoff drive to 10 yardline, 1st and goal.
    Colts throw interception on 2 yardline.
    FUMBLE!
    Ball inadvertently kicked in endzone.
    Chargers recover… Safety.
    Under the current rule as Farmar describes where a saftey wins the game do the colts win Colts win 22-23?
    Ummmmm… am i missing something?????
    ——
    Your scenario is not completely wild-eyed, it’s completely idiotic. Yes, you are “missing something.”

  30. FlourideSoldOut says: Mar 23, 2010 6:45 PM

    Now its getting more convoluted, just put some more time on the clock and keep playing! enough already with these crazy OT scenarios.

  31. NQBUS says: Mar 23, 2010 8:51 PM

    LOL, Chargers score a safety and the Colts get points…..um, yeah..prolly missing something
    The best argument I’ve seen thus far even has “holes” in it. The home team automatically gets the toss seems to be the right thing, but it could adversely affect play, especially from a fan’s or opposing team view.
    As the home team, with the game tied, and let’s say bad field position, I would have no incentive to even try to get out of a hole. I know that I’m the home team, and likely after a kickoff to get better field position than I have now, and I don’t have to risk a turnover on this current drive at all.
    The best solution now appears to let them have ties like they used to. It’ll wash out at playoff time anyway, and the negative effect of having a tie over a win will make most teams go for the win in regulation.
    Other than that, there really isn’t gonna be a “fair” way as someone inherently will have an advantage, real or perceived.

  32. AnnoyingKnowItAll says: Mar 23, 2010 9:59 PM

    buddycianci says:
    March 23, 2010 6:17 PM
    # AnnoyingKnowItAll says: March 23, 2010 5:35 PM
    ok, this is completely wild-eyed, but what if….
    Colts-Chargers OT scenerio in a tied 20-20 game
    Colts begin overtime with kick off to Chargers.
    Charges drive for FG. Chargers 23- Colts 20
    Colts recieve kickoff drive to 10 yardline, 1st and goal.
    Colts throw interception on 2 yardline.
    FUMBLE!
    Ball inadvertently kicked in endzone.
    Chargers recover… Safety.
    Under the current rule as Farmar describes where a saftey wins the game do the colts win Colts win 22-23?
    Ummmmm… am i missing something?????
    ——
    Your scenario is not completely wild-eyed, it’s completely idiotic. Yes, you are “missing something.”
    _______
    In that scenario, if the after the interception (outside of the endzone), the Chargers defender has the ball on the two yard line, but then a Colts o-lineman strips the guy and he fumbles (which is entirely possible to make a game winning INT and instead of going down getting striped… ask Drayton Florence and Troy Brown). When the ball is fumbled in the endzone and recovered by a Chargers defender and is touched down in the endzone by an offensive player from the Colts, its a safety and the Colts would be awarded 2 points.
    So do the Colts win 22-23? The answer has got to be no, but just pointing out holes…

  33. reuben4boston says: Mar 23, 2010 10:54 PM

    AnnoyingKnowItAll says: March 23, 2010 9:59 PM
    buddycianci says:
    March 23, 2010 6:17 PM
    # AnnoyingKnowItAll says: March 23, 2010 5:35 PM
    ok, this is completely wild-eyed, but what if….
    Colts-Chargers OT scenerio in a tied 20-20 game
    Colts begin overtime with kick off to Chargers.
    Charges drive for FG. Chargers 23- Colts 20
    Colts recieve kickoff drive to 10 yardline, 1st and goal.
    Colts throw interception on 2 yardline.
    FUMBLE!
    Ball inadvertently kicked in endzone.
    Chargers recover… Safety.
    Under the current rule as Farmar describes where a saftey wins the game do the colts win Colts win 22-23?
    Ummmmm… am i missing something?????
    ——
    Your scenario is not completely wild-eyed, it’s completely idiotic. Yes, you are “missing something.”
    _______
    In that scenario, if the after the interception (outside of the endzone), the Chargers defender has the ball on the two yard line, but then a Colts o-lineman strips the guy and he fumbles (which is entirely possible to make a game winning INT and instead of going down getting striped… ask Drayton Florence and Troy Brown). When the ball is fumbled in the endzone and recovered by a Chargers defender and is touched down in the endzone by an offensive player from the Colts, its a safety and the Colts would be awarded 2 points.
    So do the Colts win 22-23? The answer has got to be no, but just pointing out holes…
    ————————
    You sir are an idiot. A safety doesnt automatically win the game no matter. It means if there is a safety on the first possession of OT the game is over. Both teams had the ball and one scored. Are you really that stupid?

  34. reuben4boston says: Mar 23, 2010 10:58 PM

    and thats not a hole. again, its not safety=automatic win for the team scoring the safety, it means whenever there is a safety on the opening drive of OT the game is over.

  35. reuben4boston says: Mar 23, 2010 11:00 PM

    and thats not a hole. again, its not safety=automatic win for the team scoring the safety, it means whenever there is a safety on the opening drive of OT the game is over.

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