Comments on: Reid says Eagles are getting offers for McNabb

By: SmackMyVickUp.com

SmackMyVickUp.com — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:54:08 +0000

Barring a lockout the Eagles might have to shell out big money to keep McScabb or Kold next season. Keep talking about trading both there is a slight chance both will walk away for lucrative $$.

By: buddha

buddha — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:31:04 +0000

Hey Florio, I noticed you had “Charles Johnson”s’ name highlited on my 11:06 post and it showed a defensive player for the Panthers. I was referring to Charles Everret Johnson who was a WR for the Eagles for a brief time. He went to the University of Colorodo. Look it up!! Dont try to put me on the spot and try to correct me if YOU’RE the one that has mistaken a certain player.

By: Mooch

Mooch — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:06:28 +0000

Oh, and rookies don’t exactly get to start all that often on this team.

By: Mooch

Mooch — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:05:31 +0000

Myron, maybe I am overly pessimistic but I have to question your optimism. Is this team good for ten wins a playoff berth (early exit) with McNabb? Sure! But there is no way it gets to a SB.
“The defensive line is fine.”
Could use depth. Laws and Abiamiri? Don’t count on it. They COULD be good, but look like injury plagued guys. I think the scheme hurts the DT’s, but a better rotation is needed. Cole would be so much better with an impact LDE, right now he bears too much of the burden and gets too much attention. So you need that other end badly.
“The offensive line could use some more depth…”
Peters is OK, highly overrated. You have NO right guard. You will not have a center until November. Tackle depth is non-existent. I am OK with Justice, but he could revert.
Sure, they can “get by” with it – but I thought we were talking Super Bowl as the goal?
“The linebackers will be fine as long as MLB Stewart Bradley comes back and plays at least at 85% or so.”
He will be 50% at best until November. Trotter will likely be back, or the perennial Joe Mayes experiment. Those are not solutions.
Both OLB are decent, with Gocong woefully out of position / scheme as a 4-3 OLB. You know this.
PS – agreed that defense will be the focus of the whole draft.
“Almost all of the offensive skill positions are set for the near future.”
Right – you rebuilt that and it is maturing, so why not develop a QB the same age and set up for a decade or potential dominance?
“The main problem area is the secondary.”
Yep, followed by OLB and DE. We need an enforcer as right now it is all finesse. Macho Harris is not an NFL starter, and more than anyone shows how bad the personnel is now on defense.
You keep talking about filling spots in the draft. But you don’t have that many picks. You have to draft OL and DL high. Those are premium positions. So you have to get extra picks. A 2nd for McNabb would be HUGE.
Again, this is not about getting 10 wins. This is about getting a SB.
We need:
Starting RG
Backup C
Backup T
Impact DE
Backup DT (2)
Upgrade WLB
Upgrade SLB
Backup MLB
Starting CB
Starting FS
And keep in mind, FA is over. The Eagles wisely passed on an inflated market, but that quick fix option is gone.
By the time you fill all the gaps on D and develop the WR, RB, TE positions – it’s 2 seasons. By then McNabb will be gone anyway…and you will then just be starting the development of Kolb. Makes no sense.

By: MyronB

MyronB — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:51:15 +0000

Mooch: What the hell are you talking about?
The defensive line is fine. Trent Cole is probably the best all-around 4-3 DE in the game, Bunkley and Patterson are decent DTs against the pass, but great against the run, and now they recently signed another solid DE in Tapp. He’s not going to be Dwight Freeney, but he’s at least solid against the run and he should be able to get 8 or more sacks playing on that line next year if he starts full time (because it’s easier to get sacks at LDE if there’s already an elite RDE getting double-teamed, and the defense likes to blitz alot.) Next year, young players like Victor Abiamiri and Trevor Laws will get plenty of opportunities to step up and produce too.
The offensive line could use some more depth, but Jason Peters is a very solid LT. Slightly inconsistent last year, but barring injury I don’t see any reason not to expect a solid season from him next year. Winston Justice is an adequate RT. They could use maybe 1-2 more players on the interior, but they can definitely get by with what they have right now, and I fully expect them to draft a center or a guard at some point this year too.
The linebackers will be fine as long as MLB Stewart Bradley comes back and plays at least at 85% or so. They could use a better WLB that can cover guys, but that’s about it. That having been said, I fully expect a WLB to be drafted in the 2nd-4th rounds this year to improve depth.
Almost all of the offensive skill positions are set for the near future. The only question here is who is going to be the QB next year, and it’s obviously going to be someone in-house (Kolb or McNabb).
The main problem area is the secondary. Sheldon Brown and Asante Samuels are getting old, and the free safety spot is still not completely decided. However, there is going to be a 3-way competition at the FS spot next year, and it’s not unreasonable to expect some progress from Macho Harris or Quentin Demps, or some contribution from Marlin Jackson. And here’s the thing: I fully expect a DB to be drafted in the first and/or second rounds of the draft. Expect to see someone like Earl Thomas, or Kyle Wilson, or Devin McCourty drafted this year, which should improve the secondary and provide some more depth at either the CB or FS position.
So if they can manage to get a talented CB or FS in the first round, and grab a decent OG/C in the 2nd-5th rounds, and a solid WLB in the 2nd-3rd rounds, I think the team will be pretty set for the 2010 season. It’s really not unreasonable to expect this, either.

By: Jack Acid

Jack Acid — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:15:48 +0000

No way the Eagles get a R1 for McNabb, it just ain’t gonna happen. If he was younger, I could see it.
However, if I’m Philly, I ship him for the best offer because after next year, he is a FA and they would get nothing.
The Eagles know McNabb isn’t the future anymore and if they are smart, they make something off of him before he walks.
Minnesota makes perfect sense except the team has to wait until August to know if the Ancient One will opt to come back.
Way to let a dinosaur control your offseason, Childress!

By: Mooch

Mooch — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:57:15 +0000

We are going 8-8 no matter who starts, the defense and lines suck.
Rebuilding started with Dawkins, last offseason. Wake up, it’s over.
Better days ahead.

By: Gautam

Gautam — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:50:30 +0000

“Donovan is our quarterback”

By: Whiterhinocerous

Whiterhinocerous — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:18:46 +0000

Oh wow, now we have an Eagles post troll with the name “McNabb fan?”
Some of these people really need to get lives.

By: Whiterhinocerous

Whiterhinocerous — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:16:38 +0000

# realitypolice says: March 24, 2010 10:31 AM
How self-centered do Cowboy fans have to be to believe that the only reason that Florio would post an article about the Eagles (an article by the way, that makes no mention whatsoever about Cowboys) is to get them to start a Cowboy-Eagle debate.
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Well these are the people who still think after 13 years with only one wild-card playoff win to show for it that they’re still “America’s Team”. Everything’s bigger in Texas, including the delusions of grandeur.

By: Whiterhinocerous

Whiterhinocerous — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:14:26 +0000

# Chapnasty2 says: March 24, 2010 8:55 AM
“The Eagles have a legitimate shot to win it this year with McNabb behind center. Just as they have every other year with him taking snaps. ”
The Cowboys never have a legitimate shot to win with Romo behind center.
Just had to fix that for you.

By: dsp1899

dsp1899 — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:49:09 +0000

Please finally trade McNabb. I am so tired of all the throws into the dirt, the smiling and patting the chest to signal “my fault” and not running for first downs.
We can get something for McNabb like a 3rd or 4th round pick for sure.
While I was not a fan of Kolb at the beginning of the season, he shows promise; plus I am fine with one to two years of 8-8 or 7-9 or even 6-10 football if it means improving the team in the long run…..

By: T-Bird

T-Bird — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:23:48 +0000

McNabb has been a great QB for us over his time in Philly and he probably does give us the best chance to win now, but not win the Super Bowl and that is the ultimate goal. McNabb is still throwing the ball at people’s feet, skipping the ball 3 yards short on a quick pass, can’t hit a slant route, and throws a bullet pass everytime when a touch pass will do, and generally coming up small in big situations for years. He’s been doing the same thing for 11-years and honestly everyone knows its not gonna change. Why not go with the young kid now, give him some more time to develop. Yea Kolb won’t be McNabb as far as eluding the rush, or extending the play by breaking out of the pocket, but if you think that missing those attributes are gonna hurt the Birds its not, 9 out of 10 QBs in the NFL are slow footed brain surgeons, who could fit a pass into a paper bag at 30yds, thats what we need, someone who can make a quick decision and get the pass there accurately, having to take a sack every now and again. And by the way the reason Don’s TD: INT ratio is so good is because so many of his passes are high % passes in the flat or screens that almost will never get picked off, but when he has to go down field its not quite the same, he misses low on alot of passes and can’t fit the ball in a small space accurately on a consistent basis. Honestly if we think were a SB contender right now were joking ourselves, McNabb or not, playoff contender yes, SB contender no. We need a year or two to let our young players mesh in with the system and add pieces to the puzzle, esp on defense. Let’s move McNabb and grab some quality picks and jumpstart on rebuilding our team. Our biggest needs are at S, LB, DE and OL; lets fix those pieces and give these young players some PT and see what happens, we still will prolly make the playoffs and be moving forward as a franchise.

By: scrapdawg12

scrapdawg12 — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:12:45 +0000

I’ll take a high 2nd round for Kolb and Mcnabb. If two teams offer high 2nd round picks for both, See you later guys. Let Vick run the offense.

By: Mooch

Mooch — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:10:50 +0000

McNabb fan – this is a business. You are acting off pure emotion.

By: McNabb fan

McNabb fan — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:38:22 +0000

kolb threw for 300+ yards in a loss,hip hip hooray.McNabb throws for 450 yards in a loss,crickets,then criticism.Some of the so-called fans are unbelievable.No Super Bowls for the eagles,ever, because “GOD don’t like ugly” and far too many eagles “fans” are ugly.

By: John Spagnola

John Spagnola — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:35:07 +0000

Funny, they changed the article.

By: Weapon X

Weapon X — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:07:54 +0000

Mcnabb has to got to go. It is clear as daylight that Mcnabb is not the quarterback for this system. The West Coast system is made for an ACCURATE pheriphial quarterback and clearly Mcnabb lacks that ability. He has a strong arm yes but he does not have the accuracy nor the pheriphial vision to succeed in the west coast system. Judging by what I see in Kolb, he is made perfectly for the system. I say give the Kid a chance. We will never know if we don’t give him a chance too.

By: McNabb fan

McNabb fan — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:03:38 +0000

I’m ready for McNabb to leave,but not for the eagles,for him.He deserves better and this town deserves whatever it gets after he leaves.
He’ll be just fine almost anywhere he goes(I was hopin’ the 49ers but who knows)but what about the eagles?I don’t know about the eagles.Can kolb compete in the NFC EAST?I don’t think so.The real question is will we(Philadelphians) accept this?If so then I’ll have to question the motive of support for a loser.
McNabb will most likely be very successful consideriing he will most likely go to a team that had a terrible season just the year before.If that team goes even 9-7 or better yet 10-6 and the eagles go from 11-5 to say 8-8 or 9-7 will we be outraged?Will we question the wisdom of the trade?Or will we attempt to brush it off as nothing?
We play the Giants,Redskins(defense) and Cowboys twice a year.That’s possibly six automatic losses.Plus the Chargers,Saints and well I could go on and on.Check the schedule your self.Bottomline….we don’t know if this guy can stand the fire and if he can we don’t know if he can compete and even if he can how long before we complain that he hasn’t won a Super Bowl “yet”.I forsee false accolades and near universal excuses for this guy versus overlooked achievements and near constant criticism 5.But who cares as long as we get “our guy”,right.

By: Oakfan23

Oakfan23 — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:53:31 +0000

I’m from PA, and have watched McNabb’s whole careen in philly, I believe the guy is a good QB but i don’t think he has the heart of a champion, all the good he does seems to go out the window in the playoffs. Have any of you eagles fans watched the defense this past year?? The eagles won 11 games and not one against a team that finished with a winning record. Even my raiders beat more teams with a winning record than the eagles did. That defense won’t be fixed this offseason, and the division just got alot more competative. McNabb should go and the eagles get value while they still can…………….having said all that, i would KILL for DNabb in Oakland, we could use a descent QB, lol

By: Chop Block Murphy

Chop Block Murphy — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:48:34 +0000

Mark Ingram’s Crack Pipe says:
All you people who think Mcnabb is our best option are stupid. What have you seen in 11 years that makes you think he can get us a SB?
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Let’s start w/ the fact that he actually got to a Super Bowl, Sherlock.
Look, I understand the movement to go w/ Kolb. It’s fair. But to say McNabb sucks…? Now that’s stupid. J. Russell sucks. J. Delhomme sucks. A. Smith sucks. McNabb has been a major reason we’ve had a successful team to watch more often than not over the past decade. He hasn’t won the big game, yes, and he’s had his chances. If the Eagles decide it’s time to move to a younger guy whose time has come, I’m on board. But the utter lack of appreciation for a guy who has done a damn good job for this team for a long time…THAT is what sucks.

By: BirdsFan4Life

BirdsFan4Life — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:47:30 +0000

Get a #2 for McNabb and move on. However, to all the Eagles fans saying Kolb will be the one to take us to the SB – just be ready for what we get…
Kolb is the next great QB in Philly based on what? The 2 300+ yard games against the Saints & Chiefs last year or because he’s been sitting behind the best QB Philly has ever had in its history? I was at that Saints game and saw the pick-6 coming before the ball even left Kolb’s hand.
Be ready for more of that because that is what most “rookie” QB’s do… If we go 8-8 next year (which is very possible with our schedule), the same fans calling for McNabb’s departure, will be calling for Kolb’s head. McNabb still gives us the best change to win today – we’ll see what Kolb does for our tomorrow’s…

By: toe-to-toe bird law

toe-to-toe bird law — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:42:52 +0000

I can sympathize with the fans who are tired of watching Donovan on Sunday because they’ve lived and died with his successes and failures for more than a decade, which has produced one Super Bowl trip and no championships. That being said, I don’t think it’s time for Kolb to take over. You cannot honestly say that Kolb provides the Eagles with a better chance of winning based on two starts. Look at his body of work as an NFL quarterback, his TD-INT ratio, how he reacts to a pass rush. With the subpar offensive line the Eagles now have, combined with Kolb’s inability to evade a pass rush, it will only be a matter of time before he gets hurt. I’m not kidding, go back and watch some film of this kid with a defender in his face. It’s embarrassing.
Focus on the defense. The defense lost the NFC Championship Game against the Cardinals last year. The defense gave up 34 points to Dallas in this year’s playoff loss.

By: jordanv

jordanv — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:34:47 +0000

Someone in an earlier post actually said, “dump all three quarterbacks and bring in Culpepper”. Wow!! Really? Culpepper who couldn’t even lock down the staring job in Detroit before Matt Stafford was there!! Get rid of Donovan McNabb for Daunte Culpepper, man you must have a great connection dude, you better thank him for getting you the best smoke money can buy!!

By: realitypolice

realitypolice — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:18:41 +0000

Self-centered, not so much, confident in my teams history and historic accomplishments, definately. And I do belive that he posts articles hoping to get us to debate which generates hits. No fans are more passionate than NFC East fans and I personally enjoy it. And I couldn’t agree more with your second point
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Believe me, nothing makes me happier than you getting the Eagle fans all riled up. As a rabid fan of the NFL with no particular allegiance to a team, The only thing as enjoyable to me as watching the Birds v. Boys wars on here are Vike-Pack wars. And maybe Steelers v. rest of AFC north. Am I missing anyone?

By: Mark Ingram's Crack Pipe

Mark Ingram's Crack Pipe — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:13:10 +0000

All you people who think Mcnabb is our best option are stupid. What have you seen in 11 years that makes you think he can get us a SB? Sure he can beat on bad teams, but when it matters, he sucks. I sincerely think the Mcnabb supporters out there don’t really watch the games. You guys are like the annoying neighbor or co-worker who tries to talk sports but you can tell doesn’t watch; he just re-iterates something he read or overheard. This Eagles team is young and this is the perfect time to let Kolb take over and gel with McCoy, Maclin, Jackson, and Celek. Why delay that for another year??? Andy’s not stupid and I’m no genius, so I’m sure that’s what we’re gonna see this year. Mcnabb is gone (thank Christ) and Kolb’s our boy.

By: Birdbrainsnj

Birdbrainsnj — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:09:13 +0000

Coxypoo you sound so stupid it’s insane! You have somany facts wrong. He never played against the bucs last year, that was Don. He’s not 165, try 220. He may look thin next to our tubby 260 lb starter. You don’t need a cannon for an arm in the west coast o if youre accurate! Something you haven’t seen from 5. I don’t think kolb will be an instant success but I do believe with time in this offense he will be alot more effective. Missing ten wide open receivers a game and hitting one lucky bomb to desean isn’t very effective. See what happenns when you take away the deep ball. Example: cowboys.

By: Italian Leprechaun

Italian Leprechaun — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:08:37 +0000

myeaglescan’twin, you took the thoughts out of my head and said them better than I ever could have.
People who haven’t watched 960+ minutes per season of Donovan for the last 10 years have no idea what they’re talking about. Some idiot who has probably only watched 10 Birds games in the last decade likes to pull the stat card: “the 2nd best TD/INT ratio in NFL history only behind Brady”
Here’s a stat for you: since 2005, six QB’s have had a perfect passer rating of 158.3. They include Big Ben, Donovan, Sissy Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Eli, and Drew Brees. Please name the only one mentioned without a Super Bowl victory. See, I can throw stats out there to “defend” my argument too.
The only stat that matters to us here in Philly is that 1 parade down Broad St.

By: buddha

buddha — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:06:37 +0000

PAULITHEHOOK, you say McNabb is done, but he had career bests in yards and points scored last season. And about McNabb scoring all of his fantasy points in the first half, who cares? They still go down as fantasy points whether its in the first half or second half. And you’re wrong about that, because he lit it up vs. the Chargers and the Giants in the second half of those games. He also led a good comeback vs Denver in the second half. And to CHAPNASTY, you say that we shouldnt even compare McNabbs 11 year career to Romos 5 year career? You’re right! In McNabbs 1st year as a starter, he led his team to an NFC Championship game and almost pulled of an upset vs one of the best offenses of all time, and he had some lame ass weapons such as Pinkston, Thrash, Cecil Martin, Charles Johnson, Jeff Thomason. . . . . . . .you get the picture. And by the way, I know McNabb and Romo both made the Pro-Bowl as reserves, but McNabb WAS voted in before your precious little Romo!!lol

By: Mooch

Mooch — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:58:28 +0000

Ooops – I forgot Aaron Rodgers. So move Dmac back another slot.