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McDaniels, Brady once went three weeks without talking in New England

J.McDaniels.jpgThe Denver Post takes a close look at second-year coach Josh McDaniels, the former Patriots offensive coordinator who arrived with much fanfare in 2009, and who then took the locals on a roller-coaster ride that ultimately ended in failure.

And here’s a nugget from Mike Klis that won’t make Broncos fans feel much better about their Boy Wonder.  During McDaniels’ first year as de facto offensive coordinator with the Patriots, McDaniels and quarterback Tom Brady once went three weeks without talking to each other.

Head coach Bill Belichick did a great job of keeping the spat under wraps, but the notion of player and coach not communicating for such a long stretch suggests that one of the two men has a personality flaw, or two.  The fact that McDaniels has had public issues with multiple players in Denver suggests that McDaniels, not Brady, was the problem.

So what’s wrong with this picture?  Boomer Esiason of CBS tells Klis that McDaniels is trying to behave like Belichick before earning the ability to do so.  “All these [coaches] are taking what Bill did
in New England and trying to bring that with them wherever they go,”
Esiason said.  “The one thing they’re missing, though, is the credibility
Bill Belichick has.  The Super Bowl rings lead the players to believe
he’s leading them to victory.”

Initially, it looked like McDaniels would be able to make the transition easily, as he led the team to six victories to start the season.  But a 2-8 mark down the stretch has prompted folks to look more critically at McDaniels — and it has many wondering whether the head coach will be inching toward the hot seat come 2010.

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  1. Citizen Strange says: Mar 28, 2010 1:02 PM

    McDaniels will have exactly the same career trajectory as Jim Zorn but at least Zorn wasn’t an a-hole.

  2. efangule says: Mar 28, 2010 1:02 PM

    He also needs to cheat mor to get that deserved “credibilty”. Seams like straight up coaching doesn’t get you any respect.

  3. milehiclown says: Mar 28, 2010 1:06 PM

    This dude isn’t *already* in jeopardy?
    He has the classic symptoms of a compensatory narcissist.

  4. milehiclown says: Mar 28, 2010 1:09 PM

    But, who cares? Coached and players don’t have to get along. They have to produce. And clearly BOTH did.

  5. TryTheVeal says: Mar 28, 2010 1:11 PM

    Wow…..And then they kissed and made up?…..I bet Lombardi and Landry went seasons without talking to players..They just glared and they knew…….What a ridiculous article…Are we talking about cheerleaders or men here?

  6. TheWizard says: Mar 28, 2010 1:11 PM

    8-8 season a failure for a 1st year head coach?
    After he had to get rid of dead wood from the previous administration?
    Hardly. That’s a resounding success for a team many predicted would get 3 or 4 wins.

  7. Deegan says: Mar 28, 2010 1:12 PM

    Are you suggesting that McDaniels has a tendency to rub people the wrong way??
    NO WAY!!!!
    cough…Jay Cutler….cough…cough…

  8. sandy70 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:15 PM

    So Belichick wasn’t an asshat in Cleveland and only became one after winning 3 Super Bowls with the Patriots?
    Speaking of credibility Boomer…………………..

  9. sic66 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:16 PM

    But Cutler’s still the lil bitch right?

  10. Rick says: Mar 28, 2010 1:21 PM

    Mcdaniels is a great coach and the Broncos will do well under him. How about this Kils guy give us a source and why is this coming out years later. More tabloid NFL reporting

  11. Bell63 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:23 PM

    BB’s ways are tolerated by players and others because of the success rate; Mangini (and now, perhaps McDaniels) seem to put the cart before the horse in that regard.

  12. dcgioia says: Mar 28, 2010 1:23 PM

    Way to cite your source, Florio…great journalism here…

  13. TFBuckFutter says: Mar 28, 2010 1:27 PM

    Bill Belichick also acted a bit too much like Bill Belichick in his first head coaching job.
    Which, like Mangini, also ended in failure.

  14. supadupafly says: Mar 28, 2010 1:28 PM

    Where theres smoke theres fire. This guy is a headcase. I am sorry but you shouldn’t go 3 HOURS without talking to your QB. 3 WEEKS ! That’s a joke man.

  15. Dr. Michael says: Mar 28, 2010 1:29 PM

    MCDaniels is a little pipsquek who ran Cutler out of town and now will run Marshall out of town.

  16. samdu says: Mar 28, 2010 1:32 PM

    Big friggin deal Florio. Why don’t you write something of substance like you used to back in the day, when you were hustling to make this site take off. This is a dumb ass story. In fact just leave the writing to MDS, Josh Alper or Gregg Rosenthal. At least those guys can write a decent story, without trashing your site (oh forget NBC’s site) than you are currently doing.
    Cheers!
    S.

  17. RCT930 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:32 PM

    I dont’ agree with the way McDaniels handled Marshall at the end of last season. Marshall was late for treatment and acting like a primadonna and he called him out in public. He should not have done that. That said…
    McDaniels doesn’t take any shit, and that’s the way it should be. Ever since the elite players started making a lot more money than coaches, we’ve seen a spike in petulant and bad behavior from players who run their mouth and try to push around coaches and GMs.
    If you’ll recall, last year Brady had a lot of nice things to say about McDaniels. The fact that they got into it during McDaniels’ first year as offensive coordinator and we’re only learning about it now is intereting. Klis and other DPost writers have been accused of writing too many favorable stories about McDaniels and the Broncos management, and now he digs up this piece of history to give himself more cred. It’s laughable.

  18. rx says: Mar 28, 2010 1:37 PM

    Michael Bolton: You think the pet rock was a really great idea?
    Tom Smykowski: Sure it was. The guy made a million dollars. You know, I had an idea like that once. A long time ago.
    Peter Gibbons: Really, what was it, Tom?
    Tom Smykowski: Well, all right. It was a “Jump to Conclusions” mat. You see, it would be this mat that you would put on the floor, and it would have different conclusions written on it that you could jump to.

  19. Stetson wears panties says: Mar 28, 2010 1:39 PM

    What’s wrong with the picture?
    This can happen when you have to DIVA’s working together.

  20. Joseferus says: Mar 28, 2010 1:42 PM

    Wait a minute. A year ago, wasn’t this website praising Josh McDaniels for jettisoning Jay Cutler? According to Florio, wasn’t Jay Cutler the one with the attitude problem? Where is the accountability on this website? If you’re wrong, just say “we got it wrong”, it’s far more respectable than hoping your readers have amnesia.

  21. kpweaver27 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:43 PM

    Without mention here was the incidence with the Chargers wherein he challenged and taunted players on the field before San Diego annihilated them.

  22. HellsGrimTyrant says: Mar 28, 2010 1:45 PM

    And Brady Quinn responded so well to the same treatment from Eric Mangini (sarcasm.) Lot of potential pitfalls for Denver this upcoming season if they unload Brandon Marshall as expected.

  23. bluelion says: Mar 28, 2010 1:45 PM

    Neither does posting a response wit lots ov spealing meestaks.

  24. midbloom says: Mar 28, 2010 1:46 PM

    josh mcdaniels is a good guy and brilliant OC… it’s not a negative in my book that he stands up to divas without appeasing their idiosyncracies.

  25. pigsty says: Mar 28, 2010 1:51 PM

    “I Heart Josh” – Lane Kiffin

  26. VegasBronco says: Mar 28, 2010 1:56 PM

    It also seems to tell you something when BB does not dis either because he knows each has a strong personality. Or that the two then put up un-godly numbers in 2007.
    Klis keep trying, you may find a good sports story yet.
    And of course Florio…never mind

  27. Laxer37 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:56 PM

    To sum up:
    -Brady’s a drama queen.
    -McDaniels is a complete douche.

  28. RCT930 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:57 PM

    Florio, your piece is misleading. Much of the DPost article is positive, with other players and Broncos management supporting McDaniels.
    Also, you left out some key information, post spat between Brady and McDaniels.
    “Brady went on to have a Pro Bowl season, and the Patriots made the playoffs. And, two years later, McDaniels, by then officially promoted to offensive coordinator, helped Brady set an NFL record with 50 touchdown passes in a season.”
    In other words, both of them got passed it and they had a lot of success.

  29. deymond says: Mar 28, 2010 1:59 PM

    Talking about personality flaws…if two people on one of the most successful teams in football not talking for three months is sign of a personality flaw, what do you say about a person who sets aside their law career to run a website dedicated to rumors and petty innuendo about the people he envies?
    I think we all have the odd personality characteristic (call them flaws if you wish), and the most successful people are more likely to have some characteristics that set them apart from the crowd. I suspect Josh McDaniels and Tom Brady have a few characteristics that make them different from you and I, and those probably contribute to them being extremely successful in their chosen field, at least when you’re comparing them to the standard of all human behavior rather than the astronomically tiny sample of 64 NFL head coaches and starting quarterbacks.

  30. tfunk says: Mar 28, 2010 1:59 PM

    Straight up coaches don’t bench their best players in week 17 to prove a point. By week 17 they should have understood the “point” McEgoboy was trying to make. AS#$%^e cost me a fantasy championship!!!!

  31. Skin_Flute says: Mar 28, 2010 2:10 PM

    Interesting. I’m still gonna give McDaniels the benefit of the doubt, at least going into next year. Cutler is a little bitch (always has been, always will be) and needed to leave. Same with Marshall. McD’s veteran acquisitions were really effective, definitely more than Shanny’s were the last few years. If he can get more production from his draft picks he will be fine.

  32. steelcarrot says: Mar 28, 2010 2:15 PM

    Belichick is a douche and a cheater. Every mention of new england super bowl should also include spy gate.

  33. spliffbunker says: Mar 28, 2010 2:19 PM

    TheWizard says:
    March 28, 2010 1:11 PM
    8-8 season a failure for a 1st year head coach?
    After he had to get rid of dead wood from the previous administration?
    Hardly. That’s a resounding success for a team many predicted would get 3 or 4 wins.
    ………………………………………….
    yes it was pure wizardry…considering the reason many expected 3 or 4 wins was because of the moves he (McDaniels) made
    put the 2008 offense with last years defense & they might have been a legitimate AFC contender
    but I guess Cutler/Hillis/Marshall/Scheffler/Royal are dead wood…all gone going or underused…some coaches might consider them core players
    resounding success…???

  34. dabarber says: Mar 28, 2010 2:26 PM

    Tom didn’t talk to him because his wife told him not to.

  35. ncm42 says: Mar 28, 2010 2:40 PM

    The TRULY important question…how in the hell did someone else manage to get my username from the ‘old’ PFT? It assured me that I kept the name when the site migrated over, then refused to let me use it. Now I see someone else posting with it. And sounding a lot smarter than I ever did…

  36. JohnnyHads says: Mar 28, 2010 2:49 PM

    Hmm, belichick has credibility? Um, he cheated! HELLO
    The first year that Brady was gonna be exposed for being a qb dependant on knowing what the defense was going to do before the play; the pats got Brady and welker.
    No coach from the Pats has EVER, EVER panned out. Do you not remember they were stealing signals and literally knew what the other team was going to do before the play. This is real, it actually happened. I love how people forget so easily.
    Just look at McDaniels. Does he look or act like the next Lombardi or Knoll? Haha. The koolaid in new England must taste sooooo good.
    Romeo crennell. Nope. Mcdaniels? Nope. Charlie weiss? Haha!
    Belichick got fired and ran out of Cleveland for a reason.

  37. dashoe says: Mar 28, 2010 2:50 PM

    Lover’s quarrel? I’m mean, lover’s quarrel.

  38. sdffa11 says: Mar 28, 2010 2:56 PM

    this site is turning into TMZ for the NFL. please grow some testicles and start using some journalistic integrity.

  39. Turd Furguson says: Mar 28, 2010 3:06 PM

    why would anyone want to talk to a smug child abandoning asshole like Tom Brady?

  40. Fuschu Mang says: Mar 28, 2010 3:12 PM

    “whatdiga says: March 28, 2010 1:02 PM
    He also needs to cheat mor to get that deserved “credibilty”. Seams like straight up coaching doesn’t get you any respect. ”
    Seriously? Spell check….not hard…right click the words highlighted in red. Also usage. You were trying for “Seems”…”Seams” are found in clothing.
    …and knowing is half the battle!”

  41. CKL says: Mar 28, 2010 3:16 PM

    Is there even 1% of non Pats fans who can hate them yet still be semi objective? Nope. “Cheating”…. blah blah ….”Belichick is an ahole” wah wah. Geeze. Can any of you stick to the topic of the post and talk about it? Ask you where you’re going and you tell us where you’ve been.
    Anyway, I will post mostly what I posted on the one board I go to about this which is:
    I see what Boomer is saying and agree to a point. I think that it’s one thing to take things your ex-boss believed in and use them…quite another to try to act like him if that isn’t YOU. You have to be YOU. JM is just a tad bit high strung as we have seen. Smart but high strung. I can see him being just that stubborn vis a vis Brady. Remember Weis isn’t the shyest most modest soft spoken and undemanding guy out there and he and TB were (and probably are) still very close. Brady is a player who has shown he is always trying to get better and is fine with being coached hard. There was once even a bit in a Boston paper about how BB will rag Brady and call even him out in practice and Brady just takes it. I doubt Brady would act like a teenage girl and stop speaking to his OC. I could see JM much as I love him as a coaching mind, being piqued like that though. Mind you I am NOT a Brady-bot and TB has done things that piss me off, but I just don’t see his being the major one to blame here based on what I know of those two.
    The good news for Broncos fans is that JM seems to be one of BB’s more respected football minds and SHOULD turn out to be a decent HC. BUT…he will need to learn from his mistakes as BB did in Cleveland which BB did not repeat in NE (such as his handling of the media, his talk about players in the press etc).

  42. FreeAgentPro says: Mar 28, 2010 3:22 PM

    I recall that Patriot fans were far from enamored with McDaniel’s playcalling anyway. Except for that 2007 record-breaking, pile-it-on trashing of so many weaker NFL opponents, Pat fans had to suffer with McDaniels through a few other mediocre play-calling seasons. McDAniels has earned his negative karma, and has quite a few people expecting failure rather than success in his future. Pat Bolen has proven himself a poor manager for firing long time friend Shanahan and bringing in this arrogant kid instead. Bolen is too stubborn to admit his mistake, and I hope Shanahan has reall success withthe Skins while the Broncos flounder.

  43. Florio-is-a-tool says: Mar 28, 2010 3:30 PM

    Terry Bradshaw and Chuck Noll had the perfect, ideal relationship, eh?

  44. FreeAgentPro says: Mar 28, 2010 3:32 PM

    Belichick’s manner is only tolerated because of his success. After the Pats were drubbed in the playoffs last season by the Ravens, the Pats forums were enraged with Belichick and the good will and benefit of the doubt was flushed away. While he is far from being on the hot seat, neither does he have the rubber stamp ‘ In Bill We Trust’ from many fans any longer. Now many have gone back through previous drafts and seasons and questioned his moves and motives. His credibility has taken a hit since the cheating scandal, Super Bowl loss to the Giants, and subsequent loss of team veterans by trade or retirement that were the de facto lockerroom coaches.

  45. McDanielsOwns says: Mar 28, 2010 3:38 PM

    McD will prove you all wrong. haters…. i own you

  46. jordanv says: Mar 28, 2010 3:48 PM

    Someone in an earlier post said “Florio your post is misleading”. Of course it was misleading it was a Florio post wasn’t it? As far as these two not speaking, I’d say it was on both, Tom Brady has always seemed arrogant also…so there you go.

  47. munchkin says: Mar 28, 2010 3:52 PM

    I imagine a lot of coaches don’t talk to players in the off season. What’s the big deal here? There’s no way Brady and McDaniels would have stopped communicating during the season.
    You can’t equate Cutler’s childish personality with Brady’s. Petulant children who hide behind their agents and dis their team owner have a lot of growing up to do. Brady has done neither.

  48. Dolphinatic says: Mar 28, 2010 4:01 PM

    Mickey-D is young and arrogant. He is brash with his players and rubs many the wrong way…. That being said I like it,,, my way or the highway. He’s the head coach and although he may not have Belicheats resume he is acting as though he does. You have to project confidence and leadership to get people to follow. He is a great young mind coming out of one of the more influential systems since the west coast. He will be a great coach with a few more years exp.

  49. Raiders757 says: Mar 28, 2010 4:08 PM

    I can’t couldn’t stand the guy while was there, and am happy he’s gone, but why in the hell did Denver get rid of Shanahan? That was just downright stupid. I’m sure some Denver fans thinks he wore out his welcome, but the man’s system works, and it worked well in Denver. of course they were going ot have some down time, and the idea of change always sounds good. The thing is, in hindsight, it was a bad move.
    Even worse for me, is I live in Redskin country, so I just can’t get away from the guy.
    I love it that Denver is giving a young guy a chance to HC at this level, but I’m not so sure he’s ready yet. Not only that, but it seems the Patriots cast-offs, for the most part, have little success outside of the organization.

  50. Raiders757 says: Mar 28, 2010 4:08 PM

    I can’t couldn’t stand the guy while was there, and am happy he’s gone, but why in the hell did Denver get rid of Shanahan? That was just downright stupid. I’m sure some Denver fans thinks he wore out his welcome, but the man’s system works, and it worked well in Denver. of course they were going ot have some down time, and the idea of change always sounds good. The thing is, in hindsight, it was a bad move.
    Even worse for me, is I live in Redskin country, so I just can’t get away from the guy.
    I love it that Denver is giving a young guy a chance to HC at this level, but I’m not so sure he’s ready yet. Not only that, but it seems the Patriots cast-offs, for the most part, have little success outside of the organization.

  51. mzezulak says: Mar 28, 2010 4:09 PM

    No problems with cutler since he came to Chicago so it must be McDaniels is the problem, should make teams feel better about going after Marshall

  52. Atlanta Love says: Mar 28, 2010 4:19 PM

    He is an apprentice of Darth Hoodie. He ran the #1 QB out of Denver immediately after being hired. It’s not surprise that he is a jerk.

  53. Forevercorr says: Mar 28, 2010 4:24 PM

    McDaniels is just following Belichick’s footsteps: Become a head coach, dispose of the top players on the team, get slightly more random top players, get run out of town, move somewhere else and build a team properly, as you should have done the last time.
    Just sad it has to screw with my Broncos to get his stuff together.

  54. Iron Wolf says: Mar 28, 2010 4:32 PM

    It’s SOO funny to read references to the Patriots cheating. Still wearing your “Where’s the Beef?” T-Shirts?
    Steelcarrot, those 4 titles in the 70′s had nothing to do with steroids, right? let’s ask Mike Webster – oh yeah, we can’t. At least you have your serial rapist QB to be proud of.

  55. Memp! says: Mar 28, 2010 4:41 PM

    you’re such a nerd Florio! who gives a rats ass that these two didn’t talk years ago? I’m pissed I wasted the team reading this garbage.

  56. SteelTown_6 says: Mar 28, 2010 4:47 PM

    “Iron Wolf says:
    It’s SOO funny to read references to the Patriots cheating. Still wearing your “Where’s the Beef?” T-Shirts?
    Steelcarrot, those 4 titles in the 70′s had nothing to do with steroids, right?”
    Let me get this straight…
    You’re pissed at steelcarrot because you think it’s wrong that he’s still repeating a tired old line from 2007.
    And to prove your point you repeat a tired old line from like 40 years ago?

  57. FumbleNuts says: Mar 28, 2010 5:07 PM

    That picture of Mctard is priceless!

  58. Deegan says: Mar 28, 2010 5:23 PM

    First he rubs Tom Brady the wrong way, then Jay Cutler, then he fires his D-Coordinator due to “philosophical differences”. The same D-Coordinator that engineered a 20 rank jump in their defense. Are we starting to see a trend here????

  59. iusedtobeteddybayer says: Mar 28, 2010 5:46 PM

    A nice hire from “The Canadian Pimp”. Josh goe 2-6 he’s gone.

  60. Basehead says: Mar 28, 2010 5:53 PM

    Baby Mangini chased off a franchise QB, is trying to chase off a great WR, has split his locker room in half and choked in the biggest games of the year, he’ll be done this year. Sadly, many think he’s taking advantage of the owner in his weak mental frame, as Urban would say, he’s a bad dude.

  61. Bee_Arthur says: Mar 28, 2010 5:57 PM

    I think we all know the real issue here is that Moss wants to be traded to Minnesota, so he wouldn’t let those two talk for 3 weeks. – True Story.

  62. Uncle Rico says: Mar 28, 2010 6:00 PM

    Josh McDaniels is desperately trying to prove that he is bigger than the Denver Broncos and smarter than Christopher Langan.
    http://www.joshmcdanielssucks.com/2010/03/27/josh-mcdaniels-thinks-you-are-dumb/

  63. Pantherfan10 says: Mar 28, 2010 6:01 PM

    Does this mean Jay Cutler is less of a diva? He prettymuch acted at the same age level as Mcdaniels and Brady did if this little 3 week spat is true…

  64. jordanv says: Mar 28, 2010 6:02 PM

    mzezulak said ” it should make teams feel better going after Marshall”. Really dude? Your gonna get on here and try to say that Brandon Marshall has no baggage? Cause that’s what it sounds like your saying to me. Teams should feel good about spending a first round pick on a woman beater? Whatever you say mzezulak, go hit that pipe some more, sounds like you got some good shit!

  65. Murabma says: Mar 28, 2010 6:07 PM

    I love these anti-Spygate posts by Pats* fans, telling other fans to “get over it” and calling themselves the “team of the decade”.
    What a joke–are you kidding us? It’s a fact that your team was caught cheating–veritably knowing the plays that were coming. In fact, an HBO special on Matt Walsh quoted one “ex-offensive star on those teams” (HBO’s words, not mine) as saying “of course it made things easier–we knew what the defenses were going to run even before we came to the line”. Direct quote from the “unnamed star” (my money was always on it being Antowain Smith, but the special never said who it was.) How can something like that NOT taint your team and its “accomplishments”? Get your heads out of your arses, please–there’s a reason you’re now BY FAR the most hated team in the League and look no further than your own coach…..
    PS Of even more interest (to me at least) was a post on this website about a year or so ago by a grad student in stat with a bit too much time on his hands who told us that the circumstantial statistical evidence indicated that the Pats* used this stuff during the second halves of the same games they were taping (i.e., doing much better in half two than half one during the years in question). I had always wondered why no one in the press ever did this, but that guy did, with results all too predictable, considering who we’re dealing with here and the lengths that team will go to win at all costs, fair or foul…..

  66. JohnnyHads says: Mar 28, 2010 6:55 PM

    Why is it funny to you when NFL fans are irritated that the Patriots cheated? What kind of example is that for children? Do you have kids? I sure hope not!!
    “OK son, this is the most important pee wee game of the season. Let’s go home and study the other coaches signals so we know what they’re going to do. It’s our only chance!”
    If I were a pats fan(I do respect most pats fans and the organization) I wouldn’t be happy with winning ANY game with an unfair advantage. But I do know the majority of Pats fans are embarrassed by those astericks super bowls and it’s only the ignorant few who defend cheating. I just wished the minority could set a better example, especially the fathers.
    Me hearing a Pats fan defend winning by cheating = a ignorant Pats fan hearing NFL fans saddened by Belichicks desperate measures to finally win.
    I met Jerome Bettis once at a minor league baseball game (don’t worry Im not a Steelers fan) and he said way back in 2003 he suspected the Pats were up to something because in an afc championship game defensive players were screaming out where the play was going. Must be frustrating for all the teams the Pats beat unfairly(especially the Rams).

  67. Sourdough says: Mar 28, 2010 7:32 PM

    @Iron Wolf: Whether you like it or not, most NFL fans haven’t forgotten the Patri*ts benefitted from a ‘competitive advantage’ by taping opposing team’s defensive play signals. I understand you are angry, but your anger should be directed at Bill Belichick who disregarded prior warnings from the NFL r: his taping of defensive signals, not NFL fans whose favorite teams were at a competitive disadvantage when opposing the Patri*ts.

  68. jaywon says: Mar 28, 2010 7:48 PM

    Been saying that about McD since day one. Respect is earned not demanded.

  69. TheWizard says: Mar 28, 2010 7:53 PM

    telling other fans to “get over it” and calling themselves the “team of the decade”
    They didn’t call themselves Team of the Decade.
    Everyone else did.
    Maybe your team can do better this decade, and you won’t be such a sore loser.
    Good luck.

  70. Sourdough says: Mar 28, 2010 8:19 PM

    @Iron Wolf: Whether you like it or not, most NFL fans haven’t forgotten the Patri*ts benefitted from a ‘competitive advantage’ by taping opposing team’s defensive play signals. I understand you are angry, but your anger should be directed at Bill Belichick who disregarded prior warnings from the NFL r: his taping of defensive signals, not NFL fans whose favorite teams were at a competitive disadvantage when opposing the Patri*ts.

  71. jackybadass says: Mar 28, 2010 9:02 PM

    not a bad kid with great upside. he’s too young for nfl vets. he ran cutler out of town. brandon is not his fault. he will make his mistakes now,come back in his 40′s an beat everyone! go bonnk

  72. BroncoBourque says: Mar 28, 2010 9:08 PM

    There was a lot more in the actual article than just this spat with Brady from 5 years ago. Even that problem with Brady isn’t that much of a negative, since they got past it, had a lot of success together and now have a lot of respect for each other. Maybe if Cutler hadn’t been so insistant on a trade the relationship between him and McD could have gone the same way.
    The article goes on to talk about more currently relevant things such as explaining how McD expects every player to put the team’s interests ahead of their own and that this is why Scheffler and Marshall were sat down for the last game of the season. I don’t see how anyone can view this as a bad way of dealing with players and running a team. Everyone SHOULD put the team ahead of themselves and if they aren’t they SHOULD get sat down.
    Klis also quotes guys like Dawkins who say McD is very approachable for the players but that some guys don’t know how to properly question athority. This from a veteran who has been a leader on the defensive side of the ball for almost his entire career so I think he knows what he is talking about.
    All told the article is quite positive, though you would never know it by reading just the recap here on PFT.

  73. DropKickFlutie says: Mar 28, 2010 9:15 PM

    I made an account just to respond to the massive idiocy on this page regarding the Video Witch Hunt.
    Look up the NFL rulebook: EVEN NOW, it is *legal* to videotape sideline signals (signals that millions of TV viewers and stadium fans can publicly see too) from over a dozen different locations in the stadium, just not from the sidelines.
    Because of this hidden fact that none of the mediots care to bring up, Goodell’s penalty was excessive and ridiculous and he knew it. There were leaked videotapes of what Matt Walsh had, and it showed nothing – just crappy sideline tape of opposing coaches WAVING at the video guy, knowing they were taped. In order to cover his arse, Goodell destroyed the tapes because if they remained everyone would have seen what a Jets-biased tool Goodell was.
    Coaches like Jimmy Johnson, Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, and many other coaches have come out and said they did the same thing with sideline video, and that it doesn’t give any significant advantage, and certainly zero same-game advantage.
    Those videos were so significant that after the punishment from the Video Witch Hunt, all the Patriots did was break every single NFL offensive record, on their way to an 18-1 season.

  74. QB or not QB says: Mar 28, 2010 9:59 PM

    I think you should show evidence of facial hair to coach in the NFL.

  75. TheWizard says: Mar 28, 2010 10:00 PM

    EVEN NOW, it is *legal* to videotape sideline signals
    I told them that quite some time ago.
    I don’t think reading comprehension is a strong suit of PFT planet.

  76. Iron Wolf says: Mar 28, 2010 10:08 PM

    I’m actually pretty level-headed, and Sourdough is 100% right. It took some real stupidity on Belichick’s part to do it after a warning was sent to the league. Not the Pats, the league. But the Pats were stupid enough to get caught. Belichick tried to be cute and dick around with a formerly ambiguously worded rule and paid the price. As pissed as I was about it, the Pats should have paid a big price, and they did.
    To believe they were the only team that was doing this is to be completely naive. Hell, Jimmy Johnson was at least completely forthcoming about it, and that’s going back 20 years. Yeah, I know, “but the Pats got caught”. That still doesn’t mean that other teams weren’t doing it, just means one was dumber than the rest.
    That isn’t to say I condone unfair advantages because I don’t. However, when you consider the lack of persuasive evidence that the league turned up in their investigation (or if you wish – the lack of evidence the league presented) considering the allegations, either the Pats weren’t up to as much as people wish they were, or that there was more dirt in the league than the NFL wanted to admit. Take your pick. If just one team was ruining the integrity of the league, I’d have expected much more punishment than a lost draft pick and some meaningless fines. I’m not an idiot, I know the Pats did something, but I don’t know exactly what and I don’t know how widely this practice was shared by other teams. And neither do you. That’s all I’m trying to say. It’s just time to move on.

  77. Beer Cheese Soup says: Mar 28, 2010 11:57 PM

    JohnnyHads says:
    I met Jerome Bettis once at a minor league baseball game (don’t worry Im not a Steelers fan) and he said way back in 2003 he suspected the Pats were up to something because in an afc championship game defensive players were screaming out where the play was going. Must be frustrating for all the teams the Pats beat unfairly(especially the Rams).
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    Yes, Belichick is a cheating scumbag who should have been not only fired on the spot, but brought up on criminal charges for what he did.
    This as opposed to Bettis’ own Steelers, who used proceeds from league-banned gambling ventures to pay off officials and organize a coverup so that HE could get a ring. Pot, meet kettle…

  78. Kevin from Philly says: Mar 29, 2010 8:20 AM

    It all started when McDaniels left the locker room lights on during Earth Hour.

  79. DCPowerGator says: Mar 29, 2010 9:08 AM

    tell me again why this was such a brilliant hire (along with steve spagnulo and todd haley) but the eric mangini hire was so stupid?

  80. cbrianwatkins says: Mar 29, 2010 10:32 AM

    deymond says:
    March 28, 2010 1:59 PM
    Talking about personality flaws…if two people on one of the most successful teams in football not talking for three months is sign of a personality flaw, what do you say about a person who sets aside their law career to run a website dedicated to rumors and petty innuendo about the people he envies?
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    probably says the same thing as the person who wastes his time, not only reading, but posting on a website dedicated to rumors or petty innuendo’s about people they all envy

  81. Iron Wolf says: Mar 29, 2010 10:41 AM

    @SteelTown_6
    That’s my exact point! There just comes a point where people need to let it go. Not that it didn’t happen or that there won’t be unanswered questions, but that there’s just nothing new to say. We are in agreement.
    Unfortunately the Steelers are in a bit of a PR jam now, which I know sucks and is embarrassing.
    I’d rather be focusing on the days leading up to the draft.

  82. GaryClark says: Mar 31, 2010 11:17 AM

    McTard???!!!!
    That is classic. I try not to pay any attention to the Bronco’s cause they suck, but this coach seems like a little turd. If I were Brady, I too would only talk to Jizelle.

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