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Report: Raiders interested in Rosenfels

710066.jpgThe bad news for the Raiders is that the roster still features 290 pounds of JaMarcus Russell at quarterback.  The good news is that Bruce Gradkowski might not be the only alternative.

Apart from Donovan McNabb, the Raiders also reportedly are sniffing around Sage Rosenfels of the Vikings.

Per Mike Lombardi of NFP, the Raiders and Vikings are “discussing the availability” of Rosenfels, a veteran backup who arrived via trade last year to push (or leapfrog) Minnesota’s own failed first-day draft pick, Tarvaris Jackson. 

Enter Brett Favre.  In the aftermath of the arrival of No. 4, Jackson stepped up — and Rosenfels ended up being the No. 3 man on the depth chart.

But the Vikings surely can’t move Rosenfels unless/until they know that Favre will be back.  Then again, trading Rosenfels likely would confirm the widely-held belief that Favre will be returning, but that he won’t make it official until August, thereby ducking the offseason grind and training camp.

Still, the Vikings need to consider the future.  The jury is still out on Jackson, and thus the Vikings might need Sage for 2011. 

Bottom line?  V.P. of player personnel Rick Spielman championed the acquisition of Rosenfels, and we can’t imagine Spielman letting Rosenfels go until he has had a chance to show what he can do — unless, that is, the Raiders decide to overpay.

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  1. Niner Jeff says: Mar 28, 2010 12:43 PM

    The Raiders are looking for anything better than Russell who is 290 lbs of a waste. Rosenfels would be an upgrade and our fantasy football draft analyzer: http://www.fantasyfootballstarters.com/draftAnalyzer.jsp does not have any of these guys rated high in 2010 at all.

  2. JSpicoli says: Mar 28, 2010 12:44 PM

    I hope this is a leverage tool for the discussions with Philly about McNabb.
    Get Donovan.

  3. schlicht1 says: Mar 28, 2010 12:45 PM

    Go Raiders!

  4. Oakfan23 says: Mar 28, 2010 12:45 PM

    I like this, this has the same feel as Rich Gannon did when he joined Oakland. I thought he played well for minnesota the year before and i always felt they would have beaten Philly in that playoff game had he played instead of Jackson. I like this move should they pull it off

  5. HowIronic says: Mar 28, 2010 12:47 PM

    I like him better than Jackson when I play Madden.
    That said, I don’t know if the Vikings O-line can handle a pocket passer, especially with Hutchinson aging. I think someone more mobile would suit our situation better.

  6. Percy Nugz says: Mar 28, 2010 12:57 PM

    The Vikings should DEFINITELY make a trade with the Raiders. They seem to overpay in any type of trade so it would be interesting to see what they would give us.

  7. Killswitch2606 says: Mar 28, 2010 12:58 PM

    Maybe they’re making a roster spot for McNabb? Or possibly looking to get something from the Raiders to use as leverage with the Eagles for McNabb…?
    I’m talking complete crap here obviously… but hey, it’s fun to play devil’s advocate…

  8. dunkingonuts says: Mar 28, 2010 1:00 PM

    Anybody ever wonder what the Raiders ever did to piss off Florio?
    95% of what he writes is totally made up and the other 5 % is crap..!

  9. Opie says: Mar 28, 2010 1:05 PM

    We’ll take McFadden for Rosenfels straight up

  10. GoBrowns19 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:05 PM

    Why would anyone look to him as the starter. He’s nothing but a boob that sucks.

  11. RaiderChile says: Mar 28, 2010 1:06 PM

    Raiders have the new fat albert of the league and now want to get a career back up. Davis is old and done. 4-12 in 2010. Pathetic team. The joke of the league.
    I wouldn’t surprised if Davis takes his team to the grave and just dissolve it completely.
    It could happened with that looney toon Davis!
    Raiders need a running QB with that piss pour OLine! They stink!

  12. csmith_apd50 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:06 PM

    imagine that, the diva brett favre is holding back a franchise and holding thier balls the back pocket of his wranglers…..glad we dont have to deal with this every summer

  13. gwinn1952 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:07 PM

    Maybe there is a decent safety out there to be had. Brett’s coming back and Sage is expendable.

  14. Real Vikings fans wouldn't cheer for Favre says: Mar 28, 2010 1:09 PM

    Everybody knows Favre is coming back and Sage has no chance again to beat out T-Jack who keeps improving. It’s best for everyone if he goes to Oakland.

  15. Yak says: Mar 28, 2010 1:13 PM

    Come on Raiders!! Overpay for him, I would love that!!

  16. Dolphinatic says: Mar 28, 2010 1:14 PM

    How sad. That Rosenfels is the would be guy now says a lot about the desperation of this team. He is verrry limited. Then again if your roasting in the fire, crawling back into the boiling pot of water doesn’t sound so bad.

  17. WhirlWindBoy says: Mar 28, 2010 1:24 PM

    Or their trying to get more draft ammo for mcnabb if favre isn’t coming back because they know sage wouldn’t be happy being number 3 again.

  18. FloriosHairHat says: Mar 28, 2010 1:42 PM

    The Raiders seem to be interested in anybody with a pulse.
    Speaking of which, Al Davis still looks great.
    He hasn’t decomposed a bit.

  19. VikeGoHard says: Mar 28, 2010 1:43 PM

    If they moved Sage they could go after McNabb … But I don’t thnk that’s the case here … McNabb will still a eagle till next year when’s he’s a FA ..Sage would be a upgrade in Oakland he’s better then Bruce … If a trade is in talks there either talking CB/S or possibly 3rd down back IMO

  20. Shawn says: Mar 28, 2010 1:43 PM

    Get rid of Rosenfels he sucks, let the raiders have him for a 2nd round pick. Then again they might not be as stupid as the Vikings and give up that good of a pick for a shitty qb.

  21. raiderrob21 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:45 PM

    TO anyone that reads this BS article, ITS BS!!!
    Plain and simple. More garbage thrown out using the RAIDER name to get everyone to read, and it worked. Behind this article are 2 of the leaders of the “i hate the Raiders” club. Gloyhole and dismissed player personnel man Lombardi.
    Once again PURE BS!

  22. Arson81 says: Mar 28, 2010 1:54 PM

    Al Davis read somewhere it’d be a good idea to get a veteran presence for Jamarcus…So he sent out an email “We need a sage….”

  23. How 'bout that! says: Mar 28, 2010 1:57 PM

    Percy Nugz
    “The Vikings should DEFINITELY make a trade with the Raiders. They seem to overpay in any type of trade so it would be interesting to see what they would give us.”
    Yak
    “Come on Raiders!! Overpay for him, I would love that!!”
    This is everyone’s tired-ass company line, ever since they signed Javon Walker. It’s safe to say that every QB the Raiders sign henceforth will be considered “overweight.” Whatever!
    dunkingonuts
    “Anybody ever wonder what the Raiders ever did to piss off Florio?”
    I don’t know dude. I guess they pissed in his Cherrios.
    psly2124
    “Of course Al wants him. He wants a jewish QB.”
    Whack-Ass post of the year.
    Dolphinatic
    “How sad. That Rosenfels is the would be guy now says a lot about the desperation of this team. He is verrry limited. Then again if your roasting in the fire, crawling back into the boiling pot of water doesn’t sound so bad.”
    Desperate!!! Can you say “Wild-Cat” Sucker? Those trick plays got you squat. You all probably better worry about your players parting “like it’s 1999” and copping DUI’s cases. ‘Nuff said. OUT!!!!!!!

  24. Raider8Earl says: Mar 28, 2010 2:18 PM

    Favre will be back.
    The Raiders will overpay.
    Two universal truths.

  25. onetruth says: Mar 28, 2010 2:21 PM

    McFadden to the Vikings for Sage.

  26. TryTheVeal says: Mar 28, 2010 2:22 PM

    So….in replacing the 40 time the raiders are so fond of……Al Davis has created the Big Mac consumption time……If Sage can beat JaFatAss….Which i doubt……The job is his

  27. JayBackInTheBay says: Mar 28, 2010 2:28 PM

    I suspect this is Al Davis’s way of saying to JaThargy “pull your head out of your ass or you are done. By the way, we are not going to help you pull your head out of your ass. You are on your own.” So, lets be clear. This is not so much about McNab, sage, etc. It’s primarily about JaLapBand.

  28. E.F.Cuttin says: Mar 28, 2010 2:29 PM

    LMAO @ How Bout Dat sonning 5 Raider Haters right fast… and no, I’m not a Raider fan…

  29. rcunningham says: Mar 28, 2010 2:37 PM

    # Oakfan23 says: March 28, 2010 12:45 PM
    I like this, this has the same feel as Rich Gannon did when he joined Oakland. I thought he played well for minnesota the year before and i always felt they would have beaten Philly in that playoff game had he played instead of Jackson. I like this move should they pull it off
    Uhh Rosenfels has never thrown a pass for the Vikings and he wasn’t on the team when they played Philly in the playoffs.
    You’re thinking of Gus Frerotte. Go ahead and sign him, he’s a 38 year old free agent.

  30. bluestree says: Mar 28, 2010 2:37 PM

    McNabb.

  31. WasswaSerwanga says: Mar 28, 2010 2:44 PM

    Mike Bush??

  32. anthony says: Mar 28, 2010 3:00 PM

    OK!,.. GOOD NEWS RAIDER NATION ATLEAST AL DAVIS KNOW’S HE CAN’T WIN WITH J-RUSS.
    MCNABB ALL THE WAY!,.. BUT I’LL TAKE SAGE OVER J-RUSS AND GRADOWSKI ANY DAY~
    10-6 IN 2010 GO RAIDERS!

  33. the big bronco says: Mar 28, 2010 3:12 PM

    No, the Raiders do not need another qb… Ja Marcus Russell is a great qb.. We absolutely love him here in Denver.. I hope the Raiders sign Russell to a long term extension.

  34. jkr says: Mar 28, 2010 3:16 PM

    Sadly as a lifelong raider fan (because of my father) WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  35. johnny1979 says: Mar 28, 2010 3:16 PM

    Rosenfels sucks, and so do the Raiders. Match made in heaven!

  36. MiamiDorkFins - Repo City says: Mar 28, 2010 3:21 PM

    Raiders Blow almost as bad as the “Dorks”.
    New England is the team to beat!

  37. JimmySmith says: Mar 28, 2010 3:26 PM

    Calm down Viking fans, even the Raiders realize that Sage was inactive for 16 games last year as the 3rd string QB so any leverage is out the window. If the Raiders offered anything better than a 7th rounder, I would take it.
    The only point I would dispute is the comment that the jury is still out on T Jack-Off, well it might be if you had a lobotomy or were brain dead or a Viking fan (excuse the redundancy there) but the rest of the right thinking people have concluded that T Jack Off is a joke, a fast runner but hardly an NFL QB. We hope Childress believes in his bullshit as a coach who can develop QB’s and holds on him once BrINT Favre really does retire. That would be good for a 6-10 season with him under center.

  38. jimicos says: Mar 28, 2010 3:27 PM

    Wow. That means he’s worse than I thought.

  39. DaBeast says: Mar 28, 2010 3:42 PM

    Just be patient Vikes. And let Brett return in August like he plans to. Favre is right on this one. I have become a believer after watching from afar, his powerful impact on that team last year. He still plays like a kid having fun. And he absolutely doesn’t need his 40 year old body being abused in a worthless preseason grind or Training camp. Use those times to let Tavaris Jackson continue to mature, develop and gain confidence after learning from Favre last year. Brett didn’t treat him poorly like he did A. Rodgers in GB. He and Jackson actually became good friends. And Jackson finally won huge support in the Vikes Lockerroom as a result.
    That alliance rendered Rosenfels moot and the need for McNabb meaningless. This Jackson deal can still work out for the Vikes, and he has a lot more upside in that offense than Donovan (even as good as MCNabb is) or Sage. That offense demands mobility and gunslinging like the master Cince (Favre has), and Jackson has in abundance. That kid is learning large under the “Master QB Ninja” just like Rodgers did in GB.
    Favre is their guy and Jackson is #2 until Brett retires. If Favre takes the Vikes to the SuperBowl, we could be witnessing a Montana to Young type handoff in the tundra. Because reports are that Jackson has looked Super impressive in offseason workouts and is lobbying Brett hard to come back for one more shot.
    On the other hand, you don’t rebuild around a perrenial backup like Rosenfels. He is just adequate with little upside. The Raiders would be better served by drafting a real QB like Clausen, Bradford or an unknown Flacco type sleeper and just giving him the reigns over El Whoppo. They already have Rosenfels in the person of Gradkowski as a short term fill. And he is more than good enough, if they commit to him this year. That’s my take on the subject.

  40. Dolphinatic says: Mar 28, 2010 3:53 PM

    How ’bout that! says: Desperate!!! Can you say “Wild-Cat” Sucker? Those trick plays got you squat. You all probably better worry about your players parting “like it’s 1999” and copping DUI’s cases. ‘Nuff said. OUT!!!!!!!
    The Wild Cat is here to stay in the nfl “trick formation” or not. It works well with the right players. We lost our starting QB, RB and never had a #1 WR and we still won more game than your Traitors. The previous yr we won the division with it. Stop drinking the crypt keepers coolaid and just admit your team sucks and jealous you don’t have someone behind the scenes like the tuna… The Raiders are a joke… and so is your post. Nuff said.

  41. EaglesFreak89 says: Mar 28, 2010 3:54 PM

    As a Eagles fan, I’d like to see a straight up trade McNabb and a 3rd for Darren McFadden. We are talking fantasy stuff here. haha

  42. BeardedAxe says: Mar 28, 2010 3:59 PM

    What a terrible match. Rosenfels has a borderline nfl arm much less any sort of deep threat. I am surprised Oakland wants him, but I guess it is a step up from what they have.
    This will be great for the vikings, they can dump Rosenfels and pick up somebody in the draft that actually has a possibility of one day being a true nfl starter.

  43. City_Native says: Mar 28, 2010 4:10 PM

    Leverage for talks with the Eagles? Dilusional.
    McNabb is an all-pro QB. Sage is Sage. The Eagles are not going to lower their price because the Raiders floated a rumor about Sage. C’mon.

  44. stetai says: Mar 28, 2010 4:13 PM

    that is an interesting thought, that Favre and the Vikings already have an informal agreement that he’s returning, so he can avoid training camp.
    it might explain why the Vikings haven’t bothered with the McNabb tom foolery and why they don’t seem too stressed about whether Brett retires or not, perhaps they already know.
    I think a trade of Sage might be yet even more confirmation.

  45. Dolphinatic says: Mar 28, 2010 4:41 PM

    Oh and its not just Walker…
    Deangelo Hall (omg free money)
    Jam Russell (total waste)
    D. Mcfadden (i’ll give him 1 more yr)
    D. Culpepper (sigh)
    Moss (OMG they let him go,,fine problem child,, for WHAT pick!!)
    J Garcia (old but should have started to teach fata**).
    Gruden (HAHAHAHA)
    The list goes on and on of mismanagement of picks, free agents and bad contracts.
    The raiders NEED AL TO GO. Unfortunetly for you when Crypt keeper chained Markus to the bench, Mr Allen cursed him with eternal life and senility.ok now nuff said… learn your team man.

  46. jb10 says: Mar 28, 2010 5:02 PM

    Opie and onetruth neither of you must have seen mcfadden play. sure the oline sucks but what does that have to do with mcfadden falling to the ground every time and one hits him and no matter how hard.
    mcfadden is as soft as butter. you can have him!

  47. MrSalamander says: Mar 28, 2010 5:09 PM

    Rosenfels is not Gannon, Cable is not Gruden and quite frankly…Davis is barely Davis. Non-story, true or not.

  48. comment_submission_error says: Mar 28, 2010 5:47 PM

    the big bronco says: March 28, 2010 3:12 PM
    … Ja Marcus Russell is a great qb.. We absolutely love him here in Denver…
    big bronco has a point. If a Denver fan can laugh about another team’s QB, you know it has to be pretty bad.

  49. the big bronco says: Mar 28, 2010 6:18 PM

    We really do love Ja Marcus Russell here in Denver.. No way can Oakland let him go.. We are very shaken and upset that Javon Walker was let go.. That one hurt bad.. We would hate to see Ja Marcus leave the team..
    The most important thing to us rite now,, is that Al Davis is left in total and complete control of all, and I mean all, personell decisions.
    This puts us in our comfort zone..

  50. xMGMx says: Mar 28, 2010 6:18 PM

    DolphinDingDong needs to enroll into 1st grade and hopefully pass this time. Who taught you how to speak dude?

  51. chickenragnar says: Mar 28, 2010 6:20 PM

    Shawn says:
    March 28, 2010 1:43 PM
    Get rid of Rosenfels he sucks, let the raiders have him for a 2nd round pick. Then again they might not be as stupid as the Vikings and give up that good of a pick for a shitty qb.
    ===============================
    Turd:
    Vikes gave a 4th rounder for him…….

  52. SwedishMurderMachine says: Mar 28, 2010 6:32 PM

    So that would leave us one Tavaris Jackson as the starting QB if Brett gets hurt or doesn’t come back? Oh hell no.

  53. HowIronic says: Mar 28, 2010 6:42 PM

    rcunningham says:
    March 28, 2010 2:37 PM
    Uhh Rosenfels has never thrown a pass for the Vikings and he wasn’t on the team when they played Philly in the playoffs.

    The article picture is photoshopped? :P

  54. How 'bout that! says: Mar 28, 2010 6:46 PM

    Dolphinatic
    “The Wild Cat is here to stay in the nfl “trick formation” or not. It works well with the right players. We lost our starting QB, RB and never had a #1 WR and we still won more game than your Traitors. The previous yr we won the division with it. Stop drinking the crypt keepers coolaid and just admit your team sucks and jealous you don’t have someone behind the scenes like the tuna… The Raiders are a joke… and so is your post. Nuff said.”
    “Oh and its not just Walker…
    Deangelo Hall (omg free money)
    Jam Russell (total waste)
    D. Mcfadden (i’ll give him 1 more yr)
    D. Culpepper (sigh)
    Moss (OMG they let him go,,fine problem child,, for WHAT pick!!)
    J Garcia (old but should have started to teach fata**).
    Gruden (HAHAHAHA)
    The list goes on and on of mismanagement of picks, free agents and bad contracts.
    The raiders NEED AL TO GO. Unfortunetly for you when Crypt keeper chained Markus to the bench, Mr Allen cursed him with eternal life and senility.ok now nuff said… learn your team man.”
    (The proverbial crickets chirping, echoes, and then a long silence) Dude! Give it up with your soggy-ass rebuttal. Stop making excuses about injured players and your circus-like offense. We’ll see you mammals this year at our crib. Or should I say, our “crypt?” You can prove our ineptness then….. Loser!
    P.S. I’ll let you utilize my iron and starch to get that wad out of your panties. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  55. jimicos says: Mar 28, 2010 7:40 PM

    HowIronic says:
    March 28, 2010 6:42 PM
    rcunningham says:
    March 28, 2010 2:37 PM
    Uhh Rosenfels has never thrown a pass for the Vikings and he wasn’t on the team when they played Philly in the playoffs.

    The article picture is photoshopped? :P
    —————————
    Preseason.
    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009081451/2009/PRE1/vikings@colts/analyze/box-score

  56. Junior says: Mar 28, 2010 7:57 PM

    Dolphinatic is just still pissed that Culpepper came into their house and shit all over them bum knee and all.
    Big Bronco has no room to say anything. When’s the last time the Donkey’s did anything without Elway? Even with hard times the last few years, the Raiders still find a way to beat the Donks at least once. Matter of fact, even fat ass has beat you once a year since he’s been in the league. Good luck with the “Mighty Quinn”.

  57. AcidSoda says: Mar 28, 2010 8:21 PM

    The big bronco,
    “No, the Raiders do not need another qb… Ja Marcus Russell is a great qb.. We absolutely love him here in Denver.. I hope the Raiders sign Russell to a long term extension.”
    even w/ jamarcus we can still beat your choke job of a team.
    now that’s pretty sad.

  58. Franchise says: Mar 28, 2010 8:52 PM

    The Raiders want Sage.
    The Vikings need a CB.
    Nuff said.
    There is one guy worth more than a dime on Oaktown’s roster.

  59. FlorioFanClubMember says: Mar 28, 2010 8:56 PM

    dunkingonuts says:
    March 28, 2010 1:00 PM
    Anybody ever wonder what the Raiders ever did to piss off Florio?
    95% of what he writes is totally made up and the other 5 % is crap..!
    I think you mean 95% of the Raiders is crap and the other 5% is irrelevant. If the Raiders keep picking in the top 5 of the draft every year and all they draft are turds how do they expect to get any better when they have a bunch of 1st round pick losers making 6 and 7 million a year?

  60. RagnarTheBloodAxe says: Mar 28, 2010 9:07 PM

    I pray this isn’t serious. T-Joke is terrible. The only viable QB we have on our roster at the moment is Sage Rosenfels. Without him, we are a Favre injury away from losing the division to the Packers. Seriously, if they are seriously thinking about getting rid of Rosenfels, they need to have their head’s checked.
    If they should be trading anybody to the Raiders, it should be Tavaris Jokeson. Ugh… it’s painful being a Vikings fan.

  61. cliffcla says: Mar 28, 2010 9:23 PM

    Vikings are not going to carry 4 QBs… They need to make room for McNabb

  62. MrSalamander says: Mar 28, 2010 9:32 PM

    the big bronco says:
    March 28, 2010 6:18 PM
    We really do love Ja Marcus Russell here in Denver..
    ***************
    As a Raider fan, I find particular hilarity in this comment.
    He’s easily one of the worst draft picks ever, easily surpassing our own sordid history of sh¡ttiness in the first round. But…
    There I was, surrounded by toothless hicks and midwestern gangbangers at Invesco Field, laughing my ass off while that fat bastard single-handedly ended the precious Little Red Man-Rat’s career in Denver. Ah, the joy of watching your sad, rudderless team do as bad a job as ours! Misery Loves Company, Baby!

  63. TuckRule says: Mar 28, 2010 9:35 PM

    This is all total nonsense. Why not throw in Fran Tarkenton with Rosenfels as a bonus.

  64. AutumnWind999 says: Mar 28, 2010 9:38 PM

    What trades have the Raiders overpaid on? Seymour is an elite d-lineman who filled a major need they gave up a 1st round pick two years out which is the equivalent of a 2nd round pick in an in-year draft. The Raiders will have had Seymour for 2 full seasons before the Patriots get a rookie who may or may not contribute within his first couple of seasons and the odds are against him ever being a player of Seymour’s ability.
    I may be forgetting something but does anyone have an actual example of the Raiders overpaying on a trade? They often overpay in terms of contracts, but not trades.

  65. jackybadass says: Mar 28, 2010 9:40 PM

    dont worry raider fans. al cant last forever. until then just have a little patience. maybe in 5-10 years i’ll see you on tv.

  66. PackFanNChiTown says: Mar 28, 2010 9:51 PM

    So the Queens bring in Rosenfels and Childress promises him he’ll have a chance to compete for the starting job…(then he brings in The Favre).
    I say trade him, maybe with the Raiders he can be on a team where the coach won’t lie to his face and stab him in the back…

  67. speedkills says: Mar 28, 2010 9:58 PM

    I say trade back in first round get a second and first. Than use the first second for Donavan McNabb. Than first round pick on an OT, and second on a guy like Brian Price from UCLA. With our third look towards a center or right guard if both are not quality pick a corner to give depth

  68. Purple says: Mar 28, 2010 10:46 PM

    Sage Rosenfels and the Vikings 2nd round pick for Nnamdi Asomugha.

  69. PurpleRaid12 says: Mar 28, 2010 10:49 PM

    JimmySmith says:
    “That would be good for a 6-10 season with him under center.”
    ___________________________________________________
    Sorta like Erin’s 6-10 season right? Or would Jackson’s “6-10″ season be all HIS fault?! Enlighten me.

  70. Cannon says: Mar 28, 2010 11:28 PM

    TRADE SAGE NOW! The Raiders might give up a high draft pick, 2nd or 3rd rounder, to get him. Nothing that I saw from Sage in last years pre-season led me to believe that he’s anything more than a back up in the NFL. There is a reason the man was backing up T Jack last year. I say trade him and draft a QB with the pick you get for him, McCoy, LeFevour, or Tebow could be options with a high 2nd or third round pick. SKOL

  71. donkssuk says: Mar 29, 2010 12:00 AM

    dunkingonuts come on now mike F has the most credible unnamed untrue sorces/stories. ok ok maybe she hates the raiders but 1 fairytale he wrote about the raiders almost came to fruition! ALMOST. don’t blame him blame his unnamed/unknown sorces

  72. AutumnWind999 says: Mar 29, 2010 10:13 AM

    Raiders will not overpay for Rosenfels. Expect no better than a 4th or 5th round pick for Sage, ladies.

  73. Big Tex says: Mar 29, 2010 10:18 AM

    @AutumnWind999
    As to trades that the Raiders overpaid on; How about DeAngelo Hall. Gave up a 2nd and a 5th and then gave him $8 million in cash for 8 games. Think you overpaid? How about Randy Moss. Gave up a former 1st round LB, a 7th round pick and the 7th overall pick in the draft for a guy that just a couple of years later you turned around and traded for a late 4th rounder. Think you overpaid?
    As to Richard Seymour, let’s see where the 2011 selection is first. Right now, it looks like alot to give up for 4 sacks.
    Regarding Al’s interest in Rosenfels, well, when you’ve signed J P Losman out of the UFL, you’ve pretty much announced to the world that you’re desperate for a QB, any QB, who might have a pulse.

  74. tango says: Mar 29, 2010 12:54 PM

    Excellent, that would give us 3 back-ups ,JaJunk, Dead Al and career criminal Herrera ! Look out AFC west !! the Raiders are now dangerous !

  75. AutumnWind999 says: Mar 29, 2010 2:43 PM

    Tex,
    I’ll give you MeAngelo. However, this was a multiple time Pro Bowl DB (corners are crucial to the Raiders’ defensive scheme) who was only 25 years old at the time. Who knew he was an overhyped bum who couldn’t hang in the Raiders’ bump and run man scheme?
    Moss was an elite player. One of the 2 greatest WRs of all time in many people’s estimations. Harris was an average LB who’s no longer in the league. A 7th-round pick is of little value. So the 1st rounder was the real chip. The problem with Moss was he quit as soon as the going got tough. That’s his style. There were flashes of it in NE this year. Still a great player, but ONLY when he’s being fed the ball on a winning team. It was tough to foresee that trait before the trade. A first-round pick (one that was used on Troy Williamson) was the only valuable chip dealt. Basically, we traded Troy Williamson, Napoleon Harris and a 7th round pick for Randy Moss. Is that really overpaying?
    And I still like the Seymour trade. If it was the other way around and we had traded a Pro Bowl d-lineman to the Patriots for a 1st-round pick two years away everyone would’ve been going crazy about how the Patriots stole another great player. All-in-all, it was a fair deal. And don’t think the Pats weren’t regretting it after how much their defense struggled last season (so bad d-coordinator got fired). Not to mention Seymour isn’t a speed-rushing sacks guy. He’s a bull-rush the OT and collapse the pocket into the QB guy. That was a big factor in the Raiders having more sacks in ’09 than the Colts, Saints, Patriots, Chargers, Ravens and about 20 other teams despite not having an elite pass rusher and being one of the least frequently blitzing teams in the league.
    Additionally, how about that trade of Derrick Burgess to the Pats for 3rd and 5th round picks. The 3rd we turned around and dealt for Kamerion Wimbley a few weeks ago. Basically dealing an aging, injury-prone DE for a 25-year-old former first round DE that alot of teams were after and landing a 5th round pick on top of that. How’s that for overpaying?

  76. How 'bout that! says: Mar 29, 2010 4:13 PM

    Yo Autumn!!!
    I don’t think Big Tex will replying anymore. LOL!

  77. Joeyjoejoeshabadooooo says: Mar 31, 2010 9:50 AM

    i actually agree with your take on this

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