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McCarthy: Umpire in backfield would have seen Cardinals' penalty

Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy is still not happy that the referee didn’t flag Bertrand Berry for a helmet-to-helmet hit on Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers in overtime of the Packers’ playoff loss to the Cardinals. And he thinks that an umpire in the offensive backfield would have seen it.

I think it definitely would have helped [against Arizona],” McCarthy said, per Kevin Seifert of ESPN.com. “Our quarterback, I think, definitely could be protected more than he was last year [by officials]. There were a number of times that he was hit and penalties weren’t called and fines probably followed.”

The NFL has decided to move the umpires to the offensive backfield this season, and although the league hasn’t detailed exactly how the umpire’s responsibilities will change, some league observers believe the move will result in closer scrutiny of hits on quarterbacks.

In the case of the Packers-Cardinals game, the NFL admitted the ref missed Berry’s helmet-to-helmet hit. Some thought the Cardinals also should have been called for facemasking on the final play, and the Packers seem to think an umpire standing in the offensive backfield might have thrown a flag, although the league defended that non-call.

As Seifert details, NFL coaches believe that moving the umpire will benefit passing offenses both because it will enhance quarterback protection and because it will give receivers more room to run routes over the middle. (Although they’ll also lose the ability to use the umpire to set picks.)

Overall, although the stated reason for moving the umpires was to keep them from getting hurt, it seems that the change will have the same effect as several other rules changes over the last few decades: Opening up the passing game.

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  1. WCRaider says: Mar 29, 2010 11:36 AM

    Wonder if that same umpire would have seen the offensive holding and near trip that caused Bertrand Berry to hit Aaron Rogers helmet to helmet?

  2. Tufdan says: Mar 29, 2010 11:43 AM

    Don’t think the QB will be part of the Umpires jurisdiction. Really depends on the mechanics they write for the position.

  3. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Mar 29, 2010 11:43 AM

    Yeah–pretty much anyone would (should) have seen that.

  4. Bill In DC says: Mar 29, 2010 11:47 AM

    I think it will certainly help. I saw several egregious personal fouls on quarterbacks like the ultra late hit cheap shot on Romo in the Oakland game (?) that went without a penalty and the hit to the chin that opened a cut requiring 7 stitches to close in the KC game during a 4th down play in the fourth qtr that was missed by the officials.
    There are many other examples, like the Green Bay ones.
    Oops, no more pic plays using the official

  5. DC_Bengals_Fan says: Mar 29, 2010 11:47 AM

    “NFL coaches believe that moving the umpire will benefit passing offenses both because it will enhance quarterback protection and because it will give receivers more room to run routes over the middle. (Although they’ll also lose the ability to use the umpire to set picks.)”
    I doubt it – I think the pick maneuver is more of a loss than the extra space will help. It may result in more attention to hits on the QB, but really, how much more attention do you need?

  6. stadanko says: Mar 29, 2010 11:48 AM

    The NFC North: Where whining is perfected.

  7. GoBrowns19 says: Mar 29, 2010 11:48 AM

    Why do they want to continue to open up the passing game? It’s already open enough. Football is becoming like a game of Madden between two teenagers. Throw throw throw. Some of us still like football the way it’s supposed to be played.

  8. Hank says: Mar 29, 2010 11:48 AM

    Factual statement by McCarthy but what’s done is done. I think the last thing this league needs is more protection of the QB and passing offenses. Pretty soon this going to be a flag football league.

  9. bills34 says: Mar 29, 2010 11:48 AM

    if that was Tom Brady, Bertrand would have been exiled.

  10. Bwa Ha Ha says: Mar 29, 2010 11:49 AM

    It’s also likely to reduce defensive holding as well. Different perspectives

  11. The Real Shuxion says: Mar 29, 2010 11:53 AM

    McCarthy: Umpire in backfield would have seen Cardinals’ penalty
    ————————————————-
    The Real Shuxion: Cops at my house at 11pm saturday would have seen me watching animated porn.

  12. er pete says: Mar 29, 2010 11:53 AM

    So in other words, there will be more game-changing 15 yard penalties when a defender taps the quarterback in the head, falls on the quarterback too hard, or hits him below the waist.
    Great.

  13. Florio-is-a-tool says: Mar 29, 2010 11:54 AM

    But the cool thing is McCarthy would have also seen the front of Roethlisberger’s backward facing baseball cap. Brilliant move by the NFL.

  14. Paul says: Mar 29, 2010 11:55 AM

    Please. Maybe if McCarthy’s defense could have stopped somebody in that game, he wouldn’t have to cry about the officiating. Warner said Packers D didn’t do anything that surprised him. In other words, McCarthy & Capers game plan and adjustments were lousy. That’s why they lost. Add to the fact that the Packers talked too much after the final regular season game that McCarthy didn’t clamp down on. If you don’t want the officials making a call, or not, that decides the outcome of a game, don’t put yourself in that position in the first place. Maybe Thompson chose the wrong guy for his head coach when he chose McCarthy over Payton.

  15. answer3 says: Mar 29, 2010 11:57 AM

    did ther colts cry for this rule change too?

  16. Hauschild says: Mar 29, 2010 11:58 AM

    Why is it that “whine” sees to go so well with “cheese”???

  17. chickenragnar says: Mar 29, 2010 11:58 AM

    Maybe if Karen doesn’t hold on to the ball forever, he doesn’t get hit so much?
    Vikes fans get ripped for whining, and now MM( Michelin Man) is whining?
    Watch all the turd packer fans defend this BS.
    I Guess it is only whining when Vikings fans point out the obvious non calls, right?

  18. Nevisyakker says: Mar 29, 2010 11:59 AM

    Yeah, he may have seen that…whether he would have called it is another matter.
    For every call they will see now with the umpire in the offensive backfield they will miss a bunch more in the defensive backfield. Who is going to watch the linebackers and safeties for holding RBs & TEs? How many interior holds by O-linemen will be missed as he now tries to scurry around and get out of the way of pass rushers, scrambling QBs, WR reverses, etc.
    This rule change is going to effect the game much more than the Over Time in the playoffs change that got all the press.

  19. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Mar 29, 2010 11:59 AM

    isn’t there already an umpire in the backfield who wears a white hat?

  20. gwinn1952 says: Mar 29, 2010 12:00 PM

    Also….Mr. McCarthy….they would have called a holding penalty on one of the TD’s…resulting in a field goal try. So it would have evened up.

  21. Champs says: Mar 29, 2010 12:00 PM

    And they say Vikings fans are a bunch of whiners. Why don’t they just get Obama to bail them out? Et cetera.
    Now how about a discussion of substance?

  22. Youngone says: Mar 29, 2010 12:02 PM

    Just what we need….MORE qb protection. Give me a f**kin break.

  23. Vikes-N-Favre says: Mar 29, 2010 12:03 PM

    GB fans, start calling your HC a whiner like you do Viking fans. The Vikings lost out on a shot at the Championship because of illegal hits on Favre by the Saints that weren’t called but were fined AFTER the game.
    The fines are proof that they were illegal hits, but it doesn’t do a damn thing for the Vikings who got screwed. I remember the hit on Rodgers, could it have gone the other way? Yes, it could have. What is a case where the defender intentionally led with his helmet? It didn’t look that way, but he went helmet to helmet nonetheless. Did they call it? Nope, because NFL officials only see what they want to see and 9 times out of 10 its wrong. They will call holding penalties that don’t even exist, but they let the obvious illegal hits go unnoticed. That is why I am sick and tired of these officials screwing teams out of their rightful belongings.
    They may have screwed GB out of a chance to go further, but they definitely screwed the Vikings out of a SB appearance. All of these officials deserve to be fired and they can start over with a entirely new officiating staff.

  24. Pervy Harvin says: Mar 29, 2010 12:04 PM

    Geez! Get over it McCupcake! Teams that whine over things like penalties and bad refs as an excuse for losing playoff games are pathetic!!!
    Glad the Vikings don’t roll like that!

  25. NathanExplosion says: Mar 29, 2010 12:05 PM

    I thought it was only the Vikings who complained about calls. That’s what PTF posters would have me believe…

  26. SpartaChris says: Mar 29, 2010 12:05 PM

    @WCRaider- That’s why GB got backed up to begin with. The better question to ask is if he would have seen the helmet to helmet which would have negated the offensive holding.

  27. IAVikefan says: Mar 29, 2010 12:07 PM

    It would have certainly caused him to see an overrated defense that gave up 45 points or so…

  28. Displayname says: Mar 29, 2010 12:08 PM

    “Wonder if that same umpire would have seen the offensive holding and near trip that caused Bertrand Berry to hit Aaron Rogers helmet to helmet?”
    Now that is funny….quacker fans are always thinking they got screwed when the truth is they get as many non-calls as anyone else. At least Rogers is honest about it. When asked about the penalty non-call, he just said he shouldn’t have dropped the ball. I have a ton of respect for Rogers. The rest of the quack nation…well, get over yourselves.

  29. PackFaninPackLand says: Mar 29, 2010 12:09 PM

    “Some thought the Cardinals also should have been called for facemasking on the final play”
    Really ??? You mean you can’t grab ahold of the facemask and keep on holding it ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND like #21 Michael Adams did to Aaron Rodgers on that final play ???

  30. Ambrose says: Mar 29, 2010 12:09 PM

    The play at the end of the game was too close to call (facemask,) and you win some and you lose some. But the after-the-fact fine-inducing helmet-to-helmet hit two plays earlier (that they admitted was “missed”) should have been called. Hopefully putting a ref in the backfield will help every quarterback not named Favre in the future.

  31. bluestree says: Mar 29, 2010 12:13 PM

    Near trip? What’s the signal for that one again?

  32. sparky says: Mar 29, 2010 12:13 PM

    Near trip? What are you playing, horseshoes? Close doesn’t count in football.
    Big difference in “holding” and “hitting the QB.” You could probably call holding on every play but you would need a dozen officials to watch every matchup. However, hitting the QB is a bit easier to spot.

  33. CapsLockKey says: Mar 29, 2010 12:15 PM

    Maybe we’ll start seeing some more holding calls that are constantly missed with this move.

  34. MrHumble says: Mar 29, 2010 12:16 PM

    This takes the cake….Packer fans are always telling everyone else to “get over it” when calls go their way but sounds like McCarthy is the biggest cry baby of all. “Get over it, Mike”…..all teams can do the “could’ve, should’ve, would’ve” as it comes to officials and missed calls. Even in your own division, the Vikings got robbed even worse in their NFC championship game with the saints. There were numerous bad calls in the OT that allowed the saints to win…..and I’m not even a vikings fan but we ALL saw that game becuz it was the championship game and it was…………..disgusting! The NFL needs full-time officials!!!!!!!!!

  35. nerd says: Mar 29, 2010 12:18 PM

    The Refs saw those plays in Denver two years ago, where they altered the outcome of the game three weeks in a row. They also saw the “interference” against the Seahawks in the Superbowl.
    The NFL needs to do more than tell them where to stand if it wants to maintain the integrity of the league.

  36. Beer Cheese Soup says: Mar 29, 2010 12:18 PM

    McCheese, let it go already. You’re carrying on about a game last year like a Vikings fan. It’s over!
    Not only that, YOU could have done a better job protecting your QB as well (50 sacks, anyone?), and the non-call that really could have gone either way at the end of the Cardinals game would never have happened if the defense “that is this team’s identity” had shown up at all!
    I know you are perpetually handcuffed by the “talent” that is provided for you, but to blame the refs for your own shortcomings is some very weak sauce. Now go grovel and beg the almighty Ted to build an OL so this doesn’t happen again please.

  37. LBPACKFAN says: Mar 29, 2010 12:20 PM

    Pervy -
    How do the Vikings roll? Out west to Los Angeles?

  38. irishgary says: Mar 29, 2010 12:22 PM

    @Vikes-N-Favre
    Moron, you lost because of 5 turnovers.

  39. Supersuckers says: Mar 29, 2010 12:23 PM

    Paul says:
    March 29, 2010 11:55 AM
    Please. Maybe if McCarthy’s defense could have stopped somebody in that game, he wouldn’t have to cry about the officiating. Warner said Packers D didn’t do anything that surprised him. In other words, McCarthy & Capers game plan and adjustments were lousy. That’s why they lost. Add to the fact that the Packers talked too much after the final regular season game that McCarthy didn’t clamp down on. If you don’t want the officials making a call, or not, that decides the outcome of a game, don’t put yourself in that position in the first place. Maybe Thompson chose the wrong guy for his head coach when he chose McCarthy over Payton.
    ————-
    I watched this interview. He was asked the question and he answered it the way anyone with a brain would. Yes. There was no whining. He went on to say that they could have done alot of things different in that game. There was no whining. The facemask?? Packer fans really want a cheap penalty that had no bearing on the outcome of the game? The ball was already fumbled when the facemask occured. End result would have been the same either way.

  40. Pack_Attack says: Mar 29, 2010 12:25 PM

    Helmet to Helmet gets called for running backs, tight ends no problem.. guys used to getting pounded all year.
    A qb gets hit and no one sees?

  41. danlinker says: Mar 29, 2010 12:26 PM

    Everything said in the article and by the packer’s coach is correct. That’s a shame. What a true shame.
    It doesn’t matter at all since the cards won the game, but it’s all true. And I LOVE it.
    I specifically love that the cards got away with it, caught a break, and won the game. All that matters at the end of the day is the win.
    ANY long time cards fan knows the cards don’t catch of lot of breaks that way. So I am loving this one. Always will.

  42. Beer Cheese Soup says: Mar 29, 2010 12:26 PM

    Vikes-N-Favre says:
    GB fans, start calling your HC a whiner like you do Viking fans. The Vikings lost out on a shot at the Championship because of illegal hits on Favre by the Saints that weren’t called but were fined AFTER the game.
    ____________________________________
    I did call him a whiner, not that you have anything to say about it with your own talk of “illegal hits”.. That’s football!!
    As I said immediately after the game: Cry me a river, just make sure you hire an out-of-state contractor if you plan on building a bridge over it afterward. We wouldn’t want anyone else to get hurt.

  43. Old_Style says: Mar 29, 2010 12:32 PM

    McCarthy wasn’t “crying,” just answering a question in a media session. He continued: “I don’t want to discredit Arizona, that’s part of the game. They let us play, which I don’t really have a problem with, but you just want them to be consistent…and at the end of the day you don’t want to be sit here talking about it.”

  44. funi says: Mar 29, 2010 12:32 PM

    Hey Packer fans, why not complain about the helmet to helmet hit that was put on Warner in the 2nd quarter? What about your team being down 17-0 and cards driving again until fitz fumble, score could have been 24-0! What about your swiss cheese def giving up 45 points! If they played the saints, i think 60 points would have been put on that def! Packer fans, your team sucks and lost, deal with it!!!!

  45. forreal says: Mar 29, 2010 12:44 PM

    At the same time a penalty should be called when a QB ducks under a players hand to aviod being tackled and the players swipes the QB helmet. That BS it was the QB the induced the action, I’ve seen that a number of times this past year.

  46. Paul says: Mar 29, 2010 12:44 PM

    Vikes-N-Favre: Maybe the Vikings should have figured out a way to stop the illegal hits instead of crying about it afterward. In my book, no team deserves to win anything when they let their QB get pummelled like that whether illegal or not. Nobody screwed the Vikings but they themselves. Bolster your offensive line and learn to hold onto the ball.

  47. DCViking says: Mar 29, 2010 12:48 PM

    Cry me a river, just make sure you hire an out-of-state contractor if you plan on building a bridge over it afterward. We wouldn’t want anyone else to get hurt.
    ————————————
    For the record, the contractor that built the original bridge that collapsed was from out of state — though surprisingly not from Wisconsin. A
    Although visa problems would have probably derailed efforts to leave Wisconsin and get into the U.S.

  48. chickenragnar says: Mar 29, 2010 12:50 PM

    As I said immediately after the game: Cry me a river, just make sure you hire an out-of-state contractor if you plan on building a bridge over it afterward. We wouldn’t want anyone else to get hurt.
    =============================
    I have defended you many times before, but, by this statement you have proved yourself, BeerCheese to be a douchebag of epic proportions.
    It’s know wonder Super took an instant dislike to you.

  49. Supersuckers says: Mar 29, 2010 12:53 PM

    I also just watched the helmet to helmet play and he did get smacked. BUT, Rackers missed a chip shot or its a non issue. Everyone needs to either watch the interview or stop saying he was whining. He was asked a simple question. He then went on to say they were fortunate to be in overtime and that defensively they were outplayed. Seemed weirded out even talking about it. like it was a distant memory as they are in the midst of the improvement phase of their upcoming season. he had moved on.

  50. Pervy Harvin says: Mar 29, 2010 1:07 PM

    McCupcake,you gave up 531 YARDS!!! You coughed up 3 turnovers.
    Paul- As you like to say,in my book no team deserves to win anything when they give up that many freakin’ yards!! It will always be called the Defenseless Bowl with the infamous Hacky Sack Kick from Rodgers to Dansby! HAHAHA

  51. TrentDilferisaDouche says: Mar 29, 2010 1:08 PM

    Hey McTubby,
    Your oline was your weakness and it was exposed in many of the games last year. Worry about fixing that instead of whining.

  52. Joeyjoejoeshabadooooo says: Mar 29, 2010 1:09 PM

    so it’s okay for the packers to complain about a bad call, but if viking fans do it, everybody goes nuts

  53. Joeyjoejoeshabadooooo says: Mar 29, 2010 1:11 PM

    also, would this umpire had seen the packer defense give up 45 points?

  54. jb1996 says: Mar 29, 2010 1:16 PM

    wouldnt have mattered we played awful in that game defense got rocked we would not have won another game if we did win that saints would have massacred us defense couldnt cover anybody in that game r corners r better at man coverage than zone jarret bush should never ever ever be on the field

  55. Pervy Harvin says: Mar 29, 2010 1:20 PM

    Beer Cheese Soup says: As I said immediately after the game: Cry me a river, just make sure you hire an out-of-state contractor if you plan on building a bridge over it afterward. We wouldn’t want anyone else to get hurt.
    ————————————————–
    Damn BCS! Now you are getting right down filthy and nasty! Did your date last night turn out to be a penis owner? Damn those Seattle trannys…

  56. Beer Cheese Soup says: Mar 29, 2010 1:25 PM

    Pervy Harvin says:
    McCupcake,you gave up 531 YARDS!!! You coughed up 3 turnovers.
    No team deserves to win anything when they give up that many freakin’ yards!! It will always be called the Defenseless Bowl with the infamous Hacky Sack Kick from Rodgers to Dansby! HAHAHA
    ____________________________________
    Too true….

  57. NOwillrepeat says: Mar 29, 2010 1:30 PM

    Vikes N Farve:
    Would you like a kleenex?
    Eventually you Viking fans are gonna have to look in the mirror and realize that it was the 12 men and farve’s pick that lost you the game. Both self inflicted
    Without either, you probably kick a game winning field goal and take it back to Siberia.
    Instead, you left the door open with those two unbelievably costly mistakes which 9 times out of 10 will get you beat in the NFL.
    Questionable calls happen every week. As refs, like everyone, are not perfect. Take care of your own business and things like that wont happen.

  58. Vikes-N-Favre says: Mar 29, 2010 1:34 PM

    @ IrishGary
    ______________________________________
    I’m a moron? The Vikings may have shot themselves in the foot with turnovers, but they were still in line to win that game at the end. So it wasn’t the turnovers that screwed us, it was the officials that missed those illegal hits during the Vikings final possession.
    So really, you are the damn moron, not me. Had the Vikings been running to the endzone and they fumbled and the Saints would have returned the ball for a TD to win the game, then that would have been the Vikings screwing themselves. That didn’t even come close to happening. The Saints got their asses kicked in that game regardless of the turnovers the Vikings had. That goes to show you exactly how much better of a team the Vikings are over the Saints. Any decent team would put a team away if they gave up 5 turnovers, and yet the Saints still got a lot of help from the officials to win in OT. The Saints ain’t shit. They are Paper Champions IMO. They never deserved to be there in the first place. Their rightful place would have been rebuilding homes in their who dat land.

  59. Beer Cheese Soup says: Mar 29, 2010 1:38 PM

    chickenragnar says:
    It’s know wonder Super took an instant dislike to you.
    ____________________________________
    It’s “know” wonder, huh? You’re starting to sound a little like Supersuck yourself there.
    Also, for the record: I am glad he dislikes me. On top of being a world-class egotistical douchebag, he is a poster child for the people that are destroying my beloved franchise. I don’t want him or anyone like him to like me.
    As long as Ted is there, the Packers are mired in mediocrity. You’ve said that yourself. As long as ignorant fools like Suck and Bob Nelson want to toe the company line and spew homerisms instead of opening their eyes to the truth, Ted will be there.
    So-called “fans” like Suck are every bit as much an enemy to the Packers as the Bears and Vikings are. He just doesn’t realize it. I’m embarrassed for him.

  60. green&bold says: Mar 29, 2010 1:39 PM

    All the refs in the world won’t help a qb until he changes his name to Brady, Manning, or Favre.

  61. effs420 says: Mar 29, 2010 1:53 PM

    # Beer Cheese Soup says: March 29, 2010 12:26 PM
    As I said immediately after the game: Cry me a river, just make sure you hire an out-of-state contractor if you plan on building a bridge over it afterward. We wouldn’t want anyone else to get hurt.
    —————————————————————-
    as pointed out the contractor was out of state…from wisconsin…probably too drunk and angry and possibly too tired from assaulting his family after hearing bad news about the packers…
    stay classy cheeseheads…keep bringing a three year old tragic story into something like football that’s supposedly for fun and entertainment…angry drunken wild-eyed fanatical douchebags

  62. Beer Cheese Soup says: Mar 29, 2010 1:54 PM

    Vikes-N-Favre says:
    The Saints ain’t shit. They are Paper Champions IMO. They never deserved to be there in the first place. Their rightful place would have been rebuilding homes in their who dat land.
    ____________________________________
    So, these distasteful comments are perfectly acceptable, but I can’t say anything about bridges? It seems nothing is ever truly a tragedy unless it happens in Minnesota.
    The hypocrisy of the Viking faithful never ceases to amaze. It’s almost as though it increases exponentially each day. Take the mention of “paper championships” for example. That’s an art the Purple Pride fanbase perfected…

  63. GirthyOne says: Mar 29, 2010 2:02 PM

    As a Green Bay Packer fan I have a few things to say:
    1. McCarthy should have his line protect better, so I don’t have to hear him whine.
    2. McCarthy should have his QB get rid of the ball sooner, so I don’t have to hear him whine.
    3. McCarthy should have his TE learn to chip, so I don’t have to hear him whine.
    4. McCarthy should have his RBs learn to block better, so I don’t have to hear him whine.
    5. McCarthy should have his GM draft Offensive Lineman rather than Defensive, so I don’t have to hear him whine.
    6. MarCarthy should just stop whining.

  64. GirthyOne says: Mar 29, 2010 2:05 PM

    Should they also get a additional official along the sidelines, so that horse collar tackles that are called could be over-turned.
    Quit your bitching McCarthy and spend time trying to figure out how you become a better coach.

  65. Fan of Football says: Mar 29, 2010 2:05 PM

    “Maybe Thompson chose the wrong guy for his head coach when he chose McCarthy over Payton. ”
    Maybe?

  66. Fan of Football says: Mar 29, 2010 2:08 PM

    The fact is that AR held onto the ball way too long (just like he did in the first half of the season when they accumilated all those sacks) on a third and short with at least 2 WRs wide open. I saw this disaster coming from a mile away when AR hopped back there and pitched a tent, started a fire, and made some smores in the backfield on that play. It was third and short, that is when you need to get rid of the ball the quickest.

  67. Ruvell100 says: Mar 29, 2010 2:23 PM

    I feel bad for Beer Cheese. Spends his waking life determined to let every Packer fan know the sky is falling and you’re not a true fan unless you hate the current management.
    Here is BCS and every other TT hater…
    Harrell…Br..Br..Brohm..HARRELL…no free agents besides, well the DPOY, and Pickett, Chillar is okay, Bigby…HARRELL!!! And you don’t treat a legend like Favre like that!
    These people that think you can just mortgage your future for 2 guys that still won’t guarantee you a Super Bowl are a microcosm of why America is in the position it’s in.

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