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Donovan McNabb "in," could mean JaMarcus Russell "out"

Someone recently suggested that the arrival of quarterback Donovan McNabb in Oakland could be valuable for JaMarcus Russell, who could learn how to play the position while learning from McNabb.

This assumes that anyone can light a fire under a guy who would be more inclined to roast marshmallows over it.

The more likely reality, as Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News points out, is that JaMarcus could be jettisoned.

Doing so would save $6.45 million.  It would also represent an admission that the decision to invest the first overall pick three years ago on Russell was one of the biggest blunders in NFL history.  Still, why compound the mistake by continuing to adhere to a guy who is content that his greatest accomplishment in football was being the first name called on draft day in 2007?

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82 Responses to “Donovan McNabb "in," could mean JaMarcus Russell "out"”
  1. raiders177 says: Mar 31, 2010 11:52 AM

    Florio loves the Raiders lol. Raiders = hits to the site.

  2. GaryClark says: Mar 31, 2010 11:52 AM

    Is this guy still in the league? Since when? I thought that he died of Gross Morbidity three years ago…Hmmm?

  3. peskys_pole says: Mar 31, 2010 11:53 AM

    could always convert him to an o-lineman.

  4. Bill In DC says: Mar 31, 2010 11:53 AM

    NA, just switch him to OT or DT. He’s certainly big enough.

  5. rea725 says: Mar 31, 2010 11:55 AM

    Russell = Ryan Leaf regardless of whether the Raiders QB is McNabb or Charlie Frye.
    Probability of McNabb going to Oakland: 4.5%
    Probability of Jamarcus redeeming his NFL career and living up to his draft position: 0.2%

  6. NoKoolaidCowboy says: Mar 31, 2010 11:57 AM

    Maybe Al Davis finally gets it. If he really wanted to ever rebuild his franchise, he needed an experienced QB at the helm to guide his young’ins.
    Basic Madden NFL 10 Franchise Mode.
    Try it Al, you couldn’t do any worse than you have been.

  7. RumorMongering says: Mar 31, 2010 11:58 AM

    Wow you guys figured this out all by yourselves? With investigative skill like this you probably won each and every case you took as a lawyer. This is truly groundbreaking and revolutionary info, thanks Mike!

  8. psj3809 says: Mar 31, 2010 11:58 AM

    Its a shame whats happened to JaMarcus. Late in 2008 over the last 6 games Russell was playing very well, 90+ rating in those games, 13 td’s and 8 ints on a weak team wasnt bad.
    This year he had no rushing attack, o-line was poor, no WR’s , granted he had excuses but Russell also played lousy. The death of his mentor, his uncle might have been a factor but Russell looked totally different from late 2008 – 2009 season.
    The potential he showed in 2008 has totally gone, sad really.

  9. Boomer Esiason says: Mar 31, 2010 11:59 AM

    Has anyone ever noticed that Florio’s posts always seem to include one of the following words:
    Could
    Might
    Maybe
    Should

  10. Poo Flinging Monkey says: Mar 31, 2010 11:59 AM

    They do need to punt Russell. The guy is a loser.

  11. McNabb fan says: Mar 31, 2010 12:00 PM

    I HATE THAT ANYONE EVER REFERS TO HIM AS A QUARTERBACK.SERIOUSLY,DOES HE YET DESERVE TO EVEN BE CALLED A FOOTBALL PLAYER?DISGUSTING GUY,MAN,DISGUSTING.

  12. xl4 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:01 PM

    “his greatest accomplishment in football was being the first name called on draft day in 2007″
    Not true! It is quite an accomplishment to be the only QB in the NFL with the girth to play DT…

  13. friggs12 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:02 PM

    Mike, for the love of all that is holy, please do not post “updates” on the McNabb mill until something happens. This is getting as bad as “Is Favre retiring?” ESPN is conflicting its own reports. No one knows what will happen.

  14. BrownsTown says: Mar 31, 2010 12:02 PM

    “This assumes that anyone can light a fire under a guy who would be more inclined to roast marshmallows over it.”
    NICE!

  15. Philly4for4guy says: Mar 31, 2010 12:02 PM

    The day McNabb is traded will be stunning to whichever team he goes to because everyone seems to be lying or just holding back. If he isn’t traded, I wouldn’t be angry.. it’s the other teams loss.. however I am ready to move on to Kevin Kolb as Ive stated before.

  16. casper67 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:03 PM

    McNabb is not going to the Raiders…he will be going to the Bills for Donte Whitner, Marshawn Lynch and a third round draft choice…

  17. Favrelous says: Mar 31, 2010 12:03 PM

    JR would be a great fit for the packers. But it is a toss between JR or AR on who will play better in big games or clutch moments.

  18. Hooby says: Mar 31, 2010 12:04 PM

    id like to see him sign somewhere else, with an actual team surrounding him. then the final verdict can be rendered.

  19. Bun McSticky says: Mar 31, 2010 12:05 PM

    No way. This is Al Davis’s baby. Davis defended Russell in that weird press conference when he slammed Kiffin. He isn’t going anywhere.

  20. raybin says: Mar 31, 2010 12:08 PM

    “This assumes that anyone can light a fire under a guy who would be more inclined to roast marshmallows over it.”
    Hahahhahahahaha, well played, Florio. Love it.

  21. Common Sense says: Mar 31, 2010 12:08 PM

    GIVE IT A REST!!

  22. snnyjcbs says: Mar 31, 2010 12:09 PM

    You keep it up Florio, as long as I keep seeing one or two Raider posts per page I keep coming back. I am sure that you have noticed the number of comments you receive on Raider posts vs other clubs, night and day, night and day.

  23. Cereal Blogger says: Mar 31, 2010 12:11 PM

    It may be the best thing for him. He could check into a lethargy addiction clinic. I may join him

  24. tango says: Mar 31, 2010 12:16 PM

    McNabb in Oakland. Another of many poor moves by Dead Al ! McNabb has done nothing playing for a very talented team. Whats he gonna do playing for a piss poor team like the raiders. Al, WAKE UP ! Maybe Larry Ellison can buy both the raiders and the warriors and put an end to the misery the east bay fans have endured for so many years

  25. FMWarner says: Mar 31, 2010 12:16 PM

    xl4 says: March 31, 2010 12:01 PM
    “his greatest accomplishment in football was being the first name called on draft day in 2007″
    Not true! It is quite an accomplishment to be the only QB in the NFL with the girth to play DT…
    _______________________________________
    Well, maybe if Roethlisberger’s days in the NFL are over.

  26. Heinekenfun says: Mar 31, 2010 12:17 PM

    I don’t see how this is the biggest blunder in Draft history.
    The problem isn’t that the Raiders drafted him high…, the problem is that JaMarcus Russell is lazy and literally…, refuses to work. This happens when you dump a wheelbarrow full of cash on some of these guys. Once they’ve ‘made it’ financially.., they don’t have anything to work for. It’s almost impossible to predict, because these guys have never seen riches like they’re given here. It’s a shame that Russell doesn’t feel guilty for taking the money, since he’s surely not earning it.
    This is the prime example of why the NFL needs to pass the “JaMarcus Russell Rule”, which limits Rookie pay. Let the players earn their success professionally and financially……, like anyone else.

  27. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:18 PM

    @raider177:
    Nobody has cared about the Raiders for a long, long time my makeup-wearing friend. They haven’t had any teeth since Davis was officially diagnosed with Alzheimer’s back in the late-80’s, when he ran Marcus Allen out of town.
    It’s a pretty sad day when your former rivals all pity you and nobody even remembers a time when your team was as competitive as the Lions or pre-Brees Saints. Davis makes Millen look like a genius.

  28. theTRUTHwillSETuFREE says: Mar 31, 2010 12:19 PM

    Keep throwin this crap against the wall Florio……maybe something will stick. With the track record PFT has reporting on the Raiders you can pretty much count on Mcnabb NOT joining the Raiders. I’m still waiting for Cable to be fired, since the team never announced that he was still gonna be the coach…….

  29. kosarsmyidol says: Mar 31, 2010 12:20 PM

    If McNabb goes to the Raiders, I’ll feel bad for Gradkowski. I’d rather have Gradkowski start. He’s younger, and actually wants to play for the Raiders. McNabb wouldn’t likely resign with them after the 2010 season, opting to test free agency.

  30. Buffalo Hogan says: Mar 31, 2010 12:20 PM

    Tired of McNabb stories, well you got 3 more weeks of it; Philly aint moving him until the week of the draft.

  31. Hannibalsmith 63 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:20 PM

    Even if mcnabb lands in Oakland it does not change the situation as it pertains to Jabustus Maximus. He still is a disgrace to football with his lack of effort. And that’s when the spot was his. Bring in someone else to for sure do the job, he will be 350 lbs in no time. Cut Janutrisystem now because either way, if we get mcnabb or not, the 6.25 million is wasted if we keep him. Al Davis needs to get back to some level of respect for his decision making. Getting mcnabb would be step one, getting Gruden would be steps 2 and 3!
    RISE NATION RISE!

  32. LuvThatDirtyWatah says: Mar 31, 2010 12:21 PM

    I don’t believe even the Raiders would give up on a #1 pick so fast. I would guess their goal would be from Russell to learn discipline and the pro game under the tutelage of McNabb. Whether he would that or not is another story.

  33. jackybadass says: Mar 31, 2010 12:21 PM

    raider fans you are screwed for many losing seasons to come. dont worry you will always have a hi draft pick . unless al messes it up. last place ain’t that bad. ask a bills or brown fan.

  34. Professor says: Mar 31, 2010 12:22 PM

    @psj380 says: “This year he had no rushing attack, o-line was poor, no WR’s , granted he had excuses but Russell also played lousy.”
    No WRs? Whatever do you mean?!? The Raiders took a lights out playmaking WR in DHB with the 7th overall pick last year. Are you implying that DHB is garbage? Are you saying DHB is not at all the playmaker Davis thought he would be and had no business selecting him in the top of the 1st round? Cool, just checking.
    I will say that I don’t think Russell ever had a chance. The guy has gone through how many different head coaches, each with their own offensive system. Being selected by Oakland has been a death sentence for almost every rookie they taken. As much as I would like to believe that Davis sucks that bad at grading talent, I gotta believe that his lack of ability to provide stable leadership has ruined a lot of careers over the years. Until Davis is gone, Oakland has no chance.

  35. Gary says: Mar 31, 2010 12:27 PM

    DUH!! This may be the first thing Timmy K gets right. DuhMarcus has not shot making the team. He will be cut during training camp.

  36. mzezulak says: Mar 31, 2010 12:30 PM

    Mcnabb will end up being traded to StL for the #65 pick then StL will draft Suh #1

  37. FireJerryJones says: Mar 31, 2010 12:32 PM

    Is there a CFL, AFL, USFL team in Vega$? Cause that’s where Jamarcus wants to play.
    Knows that playbook pretty well.

  38. Cruells says: Mar 31, 2010 12:34 PM

    The Eagles might have to trade McNabb.. Because the media have taken these trade rumors beyond what they actually are RUMORS!
    If this BS doesn’t end soon.. McNabb will create his own “Jay Cutler” and The Eagles will have to take any offers they can get for McNabb..

  39. dogma1 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:39 PM

    I think the whole deal is going to fall apart and the Eagles are going to be screwed.

  40. eik01 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:42 PM

    We Raider fans can only pray that you are right. If it takes a 2nd round pick and a player for Al to admit he was wrong that’s fine. I just want JaMarcus to roll out of Alameda for good.

  41. philyeagles5 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:42 PM

    i honestly think florio just writes “updates” so he can get in his witty “humor.” i have reading your articles for awhile now and the more i read, the less respect i have for you as a sports writer. just dont quit your day job.

  42. Joeyjoejoeshabadooooo says: Mar 31, 2010 12:44 PM

    jamarcus will be out of the nfl in 3 years. i guarantee you he has blow half of his money already.

  43. d.b.cooper says: Mar 31, 2010 12:46 PM

    Don’t throw good money after bad, Mr. Davis.
    Get rid of him.

  44. tomcous says: Mar 31, 2010 12:49 PM

    Vega$$ is right …
    … but with the wad of cash he got to sign why does he need to play football anymore?!?
    … no need for CFL-AFL-etc …

  45. joetoronto says: Mar 31, 2010 12:50 PM

    Anyone who thinks the Raiders would keep McNabb & Russell is a moron, way too much money between the two.
    Florio: Why not just post “Raiders might or might not sign McNabb” and get it over with?

  46. Chop Block Murphy says: Mar 31, 2010 12:51 PM

    Philly4for4guy says:
    March 31, 2010 12:02 PM
    If he isn’t traded, I wouldn’t be angry.. it’s the other teams loss.. however I am ready to move on to Kevin Kolb.
    —————————–
    Agree 100%.

  47. KaiserSoze says: Mar 31, 2010 12:53 PM

    Hey Florio…
    Are you feeling alright?
    You haven’t posted a Steelers-bashing article in over 4 hours.

  48. Highway703 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:55 PM

    Raiders are garbage. Do they still have fans their stadium is always empty.. The stadium really does look like the black hole it’s empty like it

  49. casper67 says: Mar 31, 2010 12:55 PM

    END ALL SPECULATION…
    McNabb will be going to the Bills (where QBs go to die) for Donte Whitner, Marshawn Lynch and a third round draft choice…

  50. encinitasraider says: Mar 31, 2010 12:59 PM

    just think if the raiders save the money on JRUSS they can’t put it toward McNabbs bonus that philly doesnt want to pay this year…

  51. angstcafe says: Mar 31, 2010 12:59 PM

    If McNabb goes to Oakland
    The Raiders are going to cut Russell (rightly so)
    Draft a QB of the future somewhere between 3rd – 5th round and let that QB learn under McNabb.
    Hell if Jesus Tim is available they should draft him – at least they know that Timmy will give them 100% each and everyday unlike that fat slug.

  52. RFM says: Mar 31, 2010 1:06 PM

    Donovan McNabb = Aaron Brooks

  53. Tcostant says: Mar 31, 2010 1:11 PM

    Getting rid of Russell in an uncapped season is smart. All that bonus money goes into the 2010 uncapped season and would not hurt future years if a cap returns. Any why pay a backup $6M

  54. scrapdawg12 says: Mar 31, 2010 1:14 PM

    Quoting Al the day he fired Lane…”Jamarcus Russell is a good Quarterback, get over it”.

  55. theTRUTHwillSETuFREE says: Mar 31, 2010 1:17 PM

    # Highway703 says: March 31, 2010 12:55 PM
    Raiders are garbage. Do they still have fans their stadium is always empty.. The stadium really does look like the black hole it’s empty like it
    ————————————————————–
    How about using some punctuation? Yes, the Raiders still have fans. Most of which know how to put a sentence together also……

  56. 1NationRaiderNation says: Mar 31, 2010 1:19 PM

    gotta love Kawakami…at least this times he has a 50% chance of being right, on the “what if” , and his mental masturbation. As far as his weight lets face it he had about a 1 out of 30 chance as well all know J-Russ is going to be somewhere around 260 at his pro day, and 290 where he played last year.

  57. War_Paint says: Mar 31, 2010 1:26 PM

    “Until Davis is gone, Oakland has no chance.”
    And even then there’s no guarantees. Bwaaahahahaha!

  58. dcrespo24 says: Mar 31, 2010 1:47 PM

    No shit Florio. You came up with that one all by yourself?
    Of course Jamarcus is cut if McNabb becomes a Raider. Jamarcus may be cut even if McNabb does not become a Raider. The fact that they are in the market for QBs tells you how they feel about Jamarcus.
    Wow Florio, you sure can put two and two together.
    P.S. Richard Seymours says hello.

  59. CookieFlash says: Mar 31, 2010 1:47 PM

    Dude up top said “Gross Morbidity” WTF is that?
    Morbid Obesity maybe.

  60. Mattchew182 says: Mar 31, 2010 1:51 PM

    Maybe undead Al can get his cousin the Cryptkeeper to play QB.

  61. raiders177 says: Mar 31, 2010 2:07 PM

    # Mattchew182 says: March 31, 2010 1:51 PM
    Maybe undead Al can get his cousin the Cryptkeeper to play QB.
    ______________________________________
    John Clayton wouldn’t want to play QB.

  62. Jack Burton says: Mar 31, 2010 2:11 PM

    The Steelers could use some help on the O line.

  63. BirdsPhever says: Mar 31, 2010 2:12 PM

    Wow Florio, it took you until 12 o clock today to figure this one out? Or was it that you came across that newspaper article and than it hit you? Stop wasting our time with these worthless posts that anybody with ANY knowledge of football at all knows

  64. RaiderChile says: Mar 31, 2010 2:20 PM

    I can’t stand McNabb but if the Raiders get rid of Jamar-sucks for #5, I’m all for it!
    Congrats Dolts fans, Ryan Leaf is second on the bust list!

  65. Tdk24 says: Mar 31, 2010 2:23 PM

    If we get McNabb, he’ll be our starter for the next 5 years.

  66. Butt Plug says: Mar 31, 2010 2:26 PM

    Russell is incapable of being even a decent QB in the NFL. If the Raiders cut him, only the Lions will pick him up, and he will have to battle for a spot on the roster.

  67. JSpicoli says: Mar 31, 2010 2:31 PM

    He was the concensus #1 QB the year he was selected. Any team with same needs drafting first wouldhave taken him. Get off the Raiders.

  68. WashingtonRedstorms says: Mar 31, 2010 2:32 PM

    Get McNabb, Cut J Twinkie, and draft Tebow and run some WC play’s.
    Why not?
    Can’t hurt….?
    Raiders are QB away from the playoffs.

  69. DWat393 says: Mar 31, 2010 2:45 PM

    After reading this post, I actually had to check to see if McNabb had been traded earlier in the day and I missed it. I think Florio has said Donovan-to-Raiders so many times in the last few days he’s starting to convince himself that it has already happened.

  70. looktheballintomyhands says: Mar 31, 2010 3:26 PM

    It’s funny-you guys criticize Mike Florio all the time about what he writes, and you’re still coming back for more. Or you just need target practice?

  71. Wrathchild says: Mar 31, 2010 3:26 PM

    McNabb’s not going anywhere, enough already.

  72. ketchupaholic@yahoo.com says: Mar 31, 2010 3:28 PM

    When will people realize african american Quarterbacks aren’t worth a first round pick! They lack worth ethic and cranial capacity to command the position.

  73. ketchupaholic@yahoo.com says: Mar 31, 2010 3:29 PM

    Rush Limbaugh is vindicated!!!!!!!!!!

  74. looktheballintomyhands says: Mar 31, 2010 3:34 PM

    And ketchupaholic is a crap racist. Take his comments off, Mike, and ban him!

  75. dave says: Mar 31, 2010 3:58 PM

    why would oakland keep jamarcus one way or the other
    he’s overweight, and he sucks complete ass

  76. doubldipp says: Mar 31, 2010 4:14 PM

    The Raiders have not talked to the Eagles, give it a rest already.

  77. JunkYardDogg1156 says: Mar 31, 2010 4:27 PM

    looktheballintomyhands says:
    March 31, 2010 3:34 PM
    And ketchupaholic is a crap racist. Take his comments off, Mike, and ban him!
    ———————————————-
    NO ONE is a bigger racist than BlueEyeDevils – no one is banning him. The first banning for racist comments has to be BlueEyeDevils.

  78. Raiders757 says: Mar 31, 2010 4:43 PM

    Highway703 says: March 31, 2010 12:55 PM
    Raiders are garbage. Do they still have fans their stadium is always empty.. The stadium really does look like the black hole it’s empty like it
    —————————————————-
    Just to clue you and the other “slow” people in, the Raiders have one of the largest fan bases in sports. It’s world wide, not just based in Oakland. The stadium has been empty due to ticket burning parties and fan protest. It will remain that way until Al Davis starts listening to those who pay his bills, the fans. Fans aren’t jumping ship, their just tired of all the losing.

  79. Dogsweat says: Mar 31, 2010 6:34 PM

    Florio has a heart for the Raiders and secretly has a Raiders mini helmet on his dresser.
    Let’s not get hyper-sensitive about comments, and try to get some one banned.
    Suck it up.
    Get being Jonnie”Tattle Tale” when your feelings get hurt.

  80. B The Philly Guy says: Mar 31, 2010 7:29 PM

    Ha is that a loss in anyway lol? That is a huge upgrade and Russell is not able to play at the NFL level and by the way it looks he never will be able. I think the Raiders need a good mentor for him to be able to go anywhere.

  81. Bious says: Apr 1, 2010 7:56 PM

    Why would McNabb going mean Russell is out?
    He should have been out no matter what

  82. tango says: Apr 2, 2010 1:52 PM

    I wake up every morning hoping and praying Ja Junk was cut and Dead Al and convict Herera have faded into the sunset.

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