Comments on: Warren Moon unloads on Eagles regarding Donovan McNabb

By: DENVERDANTITANFAN

DENVERDANTITANFAN — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 08:45:58 +0000

Moon is right, but I don’t believe McNabb is going anywhere. McNabb loves the spotlight in the form of controversy. Think about it: the storyline will be him against the World, on a team that didn’t want him and whose fans wanted Kolb. This gives him at least 8 games with no pressure to win back the fans and be perserving hero he’s been made out to be. It’s a Hollywood script written by Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb.

By: Mooch

Mooch — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:47:34 +0000

I like a hater, and so does everyone else. Look, I am so tired of the ignorant “Eagles fans suck” rants that lazy people cut and paste from ESPN. It bores me.
And as for the kid from New Hampshire, wait and see what he does if the Sawx start slow! He’ll be calling for the death of every Sox player, old and new. That fan base is savage! And good for them!
Moon was traded because he kept getting drunk and beating the shit out of his wife. Sorry, has to be brought up.
The only reason he piped up on this story is because he still is crying over being let go in favor of Cody Carlson. He’s Sonny – it’s all personal, not business.

By: humbletip

humbletip — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 16:31:33 +0000

Mooch quite hate n NO body likes haters.Lol and warren is right you gotta respect a man like that and tell him straight up this is whats gonna happen. Not dis respect him and go be hind his back. Thats just palin dirty.

By: Bulldog411

Bulldog411 — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:16:38 +0000

Here is the real deal. McNabb is a good QB. The beagles have blown this from the start trying top prove their stubborn point. I think when McNabb finally lands somewhere….hopefully in Minneapolis. He will come back to haunt the sorry beagles. They consistently screw up personnel moves with guys who deserve much better, ie. Dawkins.
McNabb should have been allowed to ride out on his own terms for his service to the team. Instead the beagles sign the Pooch Predator and put their eggs in Kolb’s basket. They deserve whatever misfortune they get. I hope even the lowly Redskins finish ahead of them.
Adios D. McNabb

By: Route36West

Route36West — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:23:13 +0000

Exactly what I was thinking Florio.
Warren Moon is comenting about something he knows nothing about. He doesnt know what the Eagles have been talking about to Donovan . Unless he has talked to Mcnabb personally he knows as much as the rest of us and thats nothing.
He also said “If the Eagles are going to trade Mcnabb to the Raiders then do it already, what are they waiting for?” Maybe Warren the reason the Eagles havent traded him to the Raiders already is because they are respecting his wishes of not wanting to go there.
Or maybe not but thats the point you dont know whats going on between the Eagles and Donovan and neither do we. The only problem is your the one on tv talking about like you do looking like an idiot.

By: jibfest

jibfest — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:30:42 +0000

I actually have a Warren Moon shirt on right now, well under my dress shirt I do.

By: Mooch

Mooch — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:10:18 +0000

TominNH
Shut it.
Shut it.
Shut it.

By: bunbun

bunbun — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:29:52 +0000

Im pretty sure Warren Moon died 7 years ago. Some might say earlier. The sun has set on this one.

By: TominNH

TominNH — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:01:23 +0000

It’s a crappy way to treat a QB of McNabb’s stature. The Eagles are bungling this bigtime!

By: TominNH

TominNH — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:59:18 +0000

It’s crappy way to treat a QB of McNabb’s stature and five what he’s done! The Eagles are sure bungling this bigtime. Shame on them!

By: Hauschild

Hauschild — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:57:10 +0000

Seems to me Kolb played pretty well when called upon last season.
What you get with Kolb is something you cannot get from an aged veteran – hunger.

By: Mooch

Mooch — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:33:42 +0000

ookie…
Maybe and maybe not. But Vick played in about 2 plays a game last season. Maybe 6 were successful.
Why even talk about him as part of the offense? If anyone in the NFL agreed with you, he’d be gone by now. That’s how you know he’s essentially a team mascot, or an oddity like Manute Bol used to be for NBA teams.
As usual, you can’t defend you boy so you just trash something else.
If pro experience is a pre-req for a starter I imagine you protested McNabb getting the start over Pederson. After all, D-Mac had no track record and played at a small school not known for football.
Vick won’t see the field more than 60 plays this season, which is about 50% more than last season. Again, the punter will impact the team more. Hell, Swoop and the cheerleaders will have as much impact.
Why not bring back Jaws, he was good in another lifetime, much like Vick.

By: Disgusted_Fan

Disgusted_Fan — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:19:01 +0000

I’ve like Donovan McNabb and have never thought the Philly fans deserved him after the way they reacted when he was drafted.
That beings said, I am a long suffering Raider fan and if we had an O’Line I might say go for it. As it is, I would hate to see him end up as the Raider QB1 at this pointg in his career. I think the Raiders have some young players who could benefit by having someone like McNabb to learn from. I know, some of those players have been in the league for 3, 4, going on 5 years but have not had good leadership. I am definitely not referring to J. Russell though! I am not sure about McFadden or DHB yet, but you have seen Murphy, Bush, Schilens, Higgins, Gradkowski, Zach Miller, even Charlie Frye and a few others show good stuff.
While the O’line has not showed much lately, they did step up for Grad. and somewhat for Frye. I think the real problem there was they knew Russell was backup for Frye after Grad. got hurt. A. Davis won’t admit JR was a mistake and so if he is in the mix I think McNabb might end up having to run for his life. Until the Russell experiment is done I pity all the Raider QBs. I hope McNabb lands with a good team if he’s leaving Philly, best of luck. He’s only got a few good years left and if they trade him to Oakland I think he ought to retire.

By: Mooch

Mooch — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:30:29 +0000

Green Bay was laughed at for years for drafting Rodgers. And people predicted doom.
How you could use an example that doesn’t back up your point is beyond me.
So forgive me if I don’t take your opinion on Kolb seriously at all.
Our aspiration is a Super Bowl, yours is 5 wins. You wouldn’t understand.

By: ookie757

ookie757 — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:16:26 +0000

Mooch…
Kolb really can contribute too.. he has SO much game experience. Hell he ruled in those TWO whole games he played in, lets turn over an entire franchise to a QB who is apparently the man cause he has played in so many big games, pro bowls, and playoff battles. Yeah he can contribute. Please… Kolb couldnt carry AJ Feely’s jock strap. much less Michael Vicks. If you think Kevin Kolb is the future of the Eagles franchise, somewhere Jaws is laughing his ass off.

By: kpweaver27

kpweaver27 — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:45:45 +0000

“With McNabb its like dating the prom queen and going to 3rd base, but never reaching home plate. After awhile, you have had enough and want to find the one who is goes all the way. The national media don’t get that. People in Philly do.”
Let me correct you. If McNabb was the prom queen, then the rest of the team was the geeky girl in the AV club. People want to blame McNabb for ONLY taking his team to one super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championships. Were it not for him, they wouldn’t have made any of them. He polished a turd, frankly.
Perhaps if he had not overperformed so much, the team could have realized that the defense pretty much stunk throughout those years, and even the Jim Johnson blitz couldn’t save them against elite teams. Oh, and all of those elite wide receivers he had like Reggie Brown and Freddie Mitchell! But no, blame McNabb for taking an inferior team farther than they should have gone.

By: The Curse of Bobby Layne Part 2

The Curse of Bobby Layne Part 2 — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:40:49 +0000

CrackerJackson,
I am a Lions fan yes, but since we suck so bad I am an NFL fan first before I am a Lions fan….And last I checked, this isn’t a Philadelphia Fan Only site.
You seem to think that quality quarterbacks grow on trees. If you’d pull your head out of your little world of Philadelphia, you will learn that there aren’t that many good QB’s out there, and the ones that are keep going to the playoffs!
Farve was able to leave Green Bay because they had Aaron Rodgers in the wings. He could have been a starter a year or two earlier. Who do you have? Kevin Kolb? I like the watching the Eagles, and I think that you had almost all of the pieces in place before all of the drama.
It is tough to find a solid, reliable starting QB out there. You are going to just have to watch and learn the hard way. Just remember you were told so. The Eagles aren’t going to do as well as they have under McNabb, until they get another high-quality starter there. Kolb isn’t going to do it. No way.

By: Mooch

Mooch — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:26:46 +0000

Ookie – I believe Vick can contribute.
On windy days, he can hold the ball on the tee for Akers.
It would be more of a contribution than last year. Maybe he can mix the gatorade too. For $5MM we have to see some kind of production.

By: mmcnulty

mmcnulty — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:07:37 +0000

Please stop bringing up how the Eagles lock up young players who then feel underpaid. More often than not this strategy has worked for them. And by playing a hard line on the matter it sends a message to future signings that if they sign these deals while young they had better be willing to play under it if they get good. The deals are fair for the players and the team. Guys like Sheldon Brown need to remember why they signed that deal to begin with.

By: Skoods

Skoods — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:58:39 +0000

Yeah…and the Oilers didn’t get ish for Moon and never won a title after trading him….so their method was surely the right way to go lol.

By: ookie757

ookie757 — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:50:46 +0000

Paging C.E.O. Bad Newz Kennels! The city of Brotherly Love’s new son will be Michael Vick!! haha… all you haters keep hatin, nothing you can do except watch him become Philly’s starter. Just wait for it! Kevin Kolb? Really? Cmon….

By: Dave9935

Dave9935 — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:50:22 +0000

I bet Warren Moon wouldn’t give two craps about this saga if it was over a white quarterback

By: SuckitFlorio

SuckitFlorio — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:42:11 +0000

The Eagles did stop the Cardinals and gave DMac the ball on the opponents 49 yard line. He promptly gained 0 yards with a throw over the head of one WR and behind another…

By: snnyjcbs

snnyjcbs — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:31:23 +0000

This is a business. McNabb has been paid well for his services and the club owe him nothing. If I was the Eagles I would take the deal that best helps the club.

By: EaglesFreak89

EaglesFreak89 — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:31:23 +0000

Does anyone think that the big reason why the birds are even talking trade is because we got Howie Roseman ?

By: JohnnyH

JohnnyH — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:24:47 +0000

I think the media is to blame far more than The Eagles for the way this was handled.

By: PurpleJudas

PurpleJudas — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:22:08 +0000

I’m going to completely ignore the fan bashers who dont understand why in the world the Eagles would want to trade McNabb, since probably 2/3s of those same people during the season have said something along the lines of “who cares, the Eagles suck and will never win a SuperBowl”. Cant have it both ways…
Anyway…The Eagles are deficient in the OL. In the defensive backfield. At LB. Maybe even DE. McNabb on this team could very well get them to 10-6 and the playoffs. But does anyone think this team, as presently constructed, can realistically compete for a SB? Theyre not as good as Dallas, Minnesota or New Orleans. Maybe Green Bay too.
All 3 QBs have expiring contracts at the end of this season. So this decision will have to be made sooner or later anyway. If the team feels they want to go with Kolb in 2011, why not trade McNabb? Give Kolb a year of experience in what is probably not going to be a Super Bowl contending season anyway and set yourself up for a better situation in ’11.
I dont think there’s a whole lot of fans who think McNabb “sucks”. Rather, we’ve gone pretty much as far as he can take this team, and at his age, he’s simply not going to get any better. Factor in the constant drama and it’s mere fatigue of the whole scenario.
Has been a very good QB for us? Yes, of course he has. Can he lead them to a SB title within the next 3 years? Probably not. So why not turn the page and really see what they have with Kolb? He’s not a rookie, theyve seen him for 3 years and apparently like enough to consider trading McNabb. Might as well try to get some value for him now as opposed to letting him walk in 10 months.
This talk of loyalty and all that is just sentimental crap that really has no bearing on the situation at hand.

By: Ranoversquarells

Ranoversquarells — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:21:11 +0000

myeaglescantwin says:
April 1, 2010 10:33 AM
why do people think McNabb will be ‘hall of fame’ material?
he doesnt have 300 td’s or a ring. Freddie Mitchell told the fanatic about how Donny had a nervous break down in the SuperBowl. This dude was in the huddle, saw his face, saw what was happening. Fredex ( who sux) had to call the plays for him. Dmac lost us that title and then lost the NFC championship game against the Cardinals, along with BDawkins (football legend) not wrapping up while tackling on the 3 ..
/ hall of famers know how many timeouts their team has at all times. Hall of famers can call audibles on the line of scrimage. Hall of famers dont giggle after interceptions. hall of famers hustle to the line. Hall of famers just make it happen.
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I guess my point was lost in translation.
Have fun going .500 (at best) with Kolb.

By: rydendonkeys

rydendonkeys — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:18:05 +0000

If the Eagles defense could have stopped the Cardinals, the Eagles would have been in the Superbowl ready to beat the Steelers.
Blaming McNabb for the teams failures is simplified and stupid.
Again the defense got throttled by the Cowboys while the Eagle offense sputtered without any real rushing attack.

By: Opie

Opie — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:08:36 +0000

@ The Curse of Bobby Layne Part 2: not all fans want DNabb gone. There are plenty that want him to stay. It’s just that those fans’ opinions don’t generate the drama.
@McWest: great post!
What many fail to realize, is that part of playing this “game” is to incite drama. The more buzz around trading DNabb, the more likely they can move someone else. Rational thinking: why would they move DNabb and keep Kolb & Vick? Other teams are asking the same thing which drives up the market for a former 2nd round pick w/the proverbial “huge upside.”
No one predicted the Eagles would get Peters last year for a sandwich and some chips. A lot of “experts” panned the Eagles trading Lito for a 4th rounder. Almost everyone criticized the Eagles for letting go of Runyan and Thomas in the same offseason.
All those moves worked out well for them. Don’t give into the hype, have patience, and watch and see what happens after the smoke has cleared.
Vick to Buffalo……