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McNabb trade shouldn't have dramatic impact on draft

The release of Marc Bulger is the most tangible evidence yet that the Rams will be taking Sam Bradford with the first overall pick in the 2010 draft.  Given that Bulger and Bradford are represented by the same agency, it also could be a mild goodwill gesture aimed at softening Tom Condon and Ben Dogra up to the possibility of doing a pre-draft deal for Bradford.

So with Bradford presumably off the board at No. 1, what impact does the trade of Donovan McNabb to the Redskins have on the draft?

After full consideration, not much.

The fact that the Redskins traded for McNabb after completing a two-day visit with quarterback Jimmy Clausen suggests that the Redskins wouldn’t have used the fourth overall pick on the former Notre Dame signal-caller.  And the only reason anyone thought that the Redskins would indeed take Clausen at No. 4 came from the fact that they were so openly flirting with Clausen — as they were quietly working out a deal for McNabb.

The McNabb trade serves only to guarantee that Clausen will slip through to No. 5, which means that the Chiefs (and former Irish head coach Charlie Weis) will get a crack at him, possibly followed by the Seahawks, Browns, and Bills.

If Clausen gets past the Bills, the Jaguars could be tempted at No. 10.  Ditto for Denver at No. 11, San Fran at No. 13, Seattle again at 14, and San Fran again at 17.

So while a Brady Quinn-style free fall is possible, there are too many quarterback-needy teams this time around.

The real question is whether Texas quarterback Colt McCoy will go in the teens or the 20s, and then whether Tim Tebow is pulled of the board in the latter portions of round one or the early stages or round two.

The key for McCoy and Tebow will be Clausen; both need to see the guy widely regarded as the second-best quarterback get picked before they’ll nudge toward the batter’s box. 

We’ve used a baseball metaphor in honor of the fact that it’s the first real day of baseball season.  And baseball season can’t end unless it first begins.

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40 Responses to “McNabb trade shouldn't have dramatic impact on draft”
  1. briansalo1 says: Apr 5, 2010 4:31 PM

    Unless McNabb and Haynesworth get flipped over to STL for the #1.

  2. el_dude00 says: Apr 5, 2010 4:31 PM

    You realize that this flies in the face of Mel Kiperian logic.
    According to him this “Shifted the draft.” How something as fluid as a player draft gets shifted is beyond me, but I too feel like this is much ado about nothing in regards to the draft.
    We all have no idea where the top QBs will fall and after McNabb landed with Washington, we still don’t know.
    I’d hate to be any of the QBs in NY for the draft not named Sam Bradford. That should be a long night.

  3. K-Rock says: Apr 5, 2010 4:32 PM

    I’m all for baseball season ending.

  4. bmorefan says: Apr 5, 2010 4:33 PM

    Maybe Kyle Boller can give Sam Bradford some good advise how to succeed in the NFL…like…uhhh..yeaa…hmm…

  5. El Colon says: Apr 5, 2010 4:33 PM

    “We’ve used a baseball metaphor in honor of the fact that it’s the first real day of baseball season. And baseball season can’t end unless it first begins.”
    and the witty quip judges say:
    10 10 10

  6. kidwithhelmet says: Apr 5, 2010 4:34 PM

    1 team keeps being overlooked in the Clausen equation: The Raiders.

  7. thinker says: Apr 5, 2010 4:40 PM

    The dramatic impact on the draft is that it’s likely to be much less interesting – with all the guessing of what the Skins will do.

  8. Doc Fluty says: Apr 5, 2010 4:40 PM

    this just makes the chiefs spot at 5 so much more of a mystery… i hope someone trades up to #5 like last year to grab another qb

  9. Boofer T Justice says: Apr 5, 2010 4:40 PM

    Nice observation Florio.
    So let me get this straight, if Jimmy’s not drafted 5th, he could be drafted 6th? And if not 6th then maybe 7th. And if not 7th then maybe 8th? And so on and such?
    Man, the draft stuff is hard and confusing. Good thing you’re here to clear up the air for us morons.

  10. VoxVagina says: Apr 5, 2010 4:40 PM

    Colt McCoy isn’t even going in the first round, Florio. He’s probably a mid 2nd or early 3rd rounder

  11. efangule says: Apr 5, 2010 4:40 PM

    “And baseball season can’t end unless it first begins.”

  12. DINO says: Apr 5, 2010 4:42 PM

    it affects the Lions…. to trade down… with WASh out of the market the leverage shifts to Tampa or to the team that picks before supposely wanting a QB

  13. sunflower100 says: Apr 5, 2010 4:44 PM

    Why does trading for McNabb stop the redskins from taking a QB at some point in the draft. McNabb is still in his 30s and eventually the redskins have to find someone to succeed McNabb. I am assuming at this point the Redskins are planning on trading Campbell. Drafting a QB now gives the redskins a chance to groom a future starter behind McNabb. Thus, (if the redskins are actually smart for once) won’t be stuck in the future starting a rookie QB.

  14. Clevelander says: Apr 5, 2010 4:46 PM

    Of course, since you’re not a professional scout Florio, you just sound like some ass who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

  15. vesselsk says: Apr 5, 2010 4:50 PM

    Good to see you weren’t at Tiger’s presser Florio.
    Now that the Redskins have McNabb, there’ll be no trading up with the Rams or Lions. Now the Rams release Bulger, which all but guarantees the Rams will be taking Bradford. Add to that the Lions picking up Sims, which rules out Okung at #2 and I think the Lions would take Suh over McCoy if they can’t trade down. I think the top of the draft may be panning out early.

  16. efangule says: Apr 5, 2010 4:51 PM

    “And baseball season can’t end unless it first begins.”

  17. Garbage Pail Kid says: Apr 5, 2010 4:51 PM

    Is this some kind of jab at Clayton?
    McNabb deal has deep draft impact
    John Clayton, ESPN.com
    The trade of quarterback Donovan McNabb to the Redskins will have a significant impact on this month’s draft, writes John Clayton.
    Story | Conversation | April 4, 2010

  18. Dano50 says: Apr 5, 2010 4:53 PM

    Are you kidding????????????????? The McNabb trade is huge. If the Rams want to regain respectibility they need some cash. Paying Bradford 50 million bucks is not the way to go. They need to trade down, it’s not that important at this time to spend that kinda cash on an unproven product. Next year there will be limits on how much the rookies make, mark my words. So Spags would be foolish to spend that much cash. No way are they going to the Super Bowl next year buyimg Bradford. Trade down get a good OLine guy, and wait till next year, and save a ton of cash. If Spags jumps on Bradford he should be shot, it would go down in history as the dumbest move in the sports world. Next year take a franchise QB, and save 40 million bucks. It’s a no brainer. Or spend the rest of your life in purgatory. Bradford would drop out of the top ten where he belongs. No rookie is worth that kinda cash. Of course unless his name is Clark Kent.

  19. robert ethan says: Apr 5, 2010 4:58 PM

    Baseball season only seems endless. Although when they play for 9 months of the year and hold spring training the other 3 months it’s really hard to tell the seasons apart.

  20. jlbay says: Apr 5, 2010 5:03 PM

    The complete flaw in this assessment is:
    “The real question is whether Texas quarterback Colt McCoy will go in the teens or the 20s, and then whether Tim Tebow is pulled of the board in the latter portions of round one or the early stages or round two.”
    Colt McCoy will most likely go in the second round, maybe “in the teens or the 20s”, so that part of your statement is right, but you got the round wrong. As for Tim Tebow, the only folks who think that guy is a potential 1st round pick are you, Nike and Timmy’s dad. He will be lucky if he goes in the 3rd round and the team that takes him is most likely wasting the pick . . . I respect the guys work ethic, leadership ability and the fact that he did the most with the talent god gave him . . . but he isn’t an NFL quarterback and a transition to WR or TE is very difficult to pull off in the pros . . . I swear there has never been this type of attention given to an, at best, 3rd round pick.

  21. robert ethan says: Apr 5, 2010 5:04 PM

    Dano50
    Stay away from Kent. Scuttlebutt is that he has some sort of condition that makes him vulnerable to krypton. You know every D lineman in the league is going to have a bit stashed on his person somewhere waiting to use it on the guy in a pile.

  22. RuggSkins says: Apr 5, 2010 5:14 PM

    OK… Now… Unless the skins improve the O-Line… they aren’t going to get any better!
    My Skins 2010 O-Line prediction:
    Left Tackle – Flozell the Hotel
    Left Guard – Derrick Dockery
    Center – Casey Rabach
    Right Guard – Big Mike Williams
    Right Tackle – Michael Okung (until Flozell retires in two eyars ro so then he’ll go to the blind side)
    Sounds like a fairly strong O-Line!

  23. mzezulak says: Apr 5, 2010 5:22 PM

    Pretty suspicious the Rams cutting Bulger before the draft. It hurts Their leverage with signing Bradford and seems to make him the day one starter unless he holds out too long. Maybe there’s more to this, could the Rams have engineered the Mcnabb trade? It makes sense the Rams didn’t want to part with #33 because it will likely draw a 1st rounder for next year along with a 2nd this year, so they have the Skins make the trade and presto they trade the #1 for #4 and Mcnabb and in a salary dump Haynesworths massive guarenteed contract. Look for the Rams to also throw in the 3 or 4 for Mcnabb to Philly next year and draft Okung this year at #4. Fantasy? Hmmm.

  24. db3300 says: Apr 5, 2010 5:25 PM

    “Colt McCoy isn’t even going in the first round, Florio. He’s probably a mid 2nd or early 3rd rounder”
    Maybe. Maybe not. Several people think he’ll go in the 1st round. If an early run starts on QBs, then you can expect McCoy to be gone at the end of day 1. It’s not like we’re talking about a projected 7th rounder. He’s the guy expected to be the 3rd or 4th QB taken. 4th pick only if someone tries to hit a HR with Tebow. Bradford and Claussen will go in the top 7 or 8. I count at least 10 teams that could/should be thinking about a QB if they think McCoy will be gone when they pick next. I don’t think the odds are very good that he’ll still be there at the end of the 1st day but he’ll be gone by early in the 2nd by one of those 10 that didn’t take him the first time around. Skins (McNabb cut at the end of training camp if so), Browns, Raiders, Bills, or Dolphins no later than pick 36.

  25. brasho says: Apr 5, 2010 5:27 PM

    How does this not affect the draft, DA? If St. Louis takes Bradford and another team wants Clausen, then they don’t have to leapfrog the Redskins at #5 and get into the 3 or 4 position to do so… now they can go to #6 or #7…that’s a big freaking difference. This has a major impact on the draft.
    BTW, Colt McCoy is NOT a 1st round QB… you just show how similiar you and McShay are, two numbskulls that have no clue about the draft.

  26. TryTheVeal says: Apr 5, 2010 5:27 PM

    This just in…..The McNabb trade hasn’t effected global warming, hasn’t effected health care, hasn’t effected that mullet haired cowgirl fans are not gonna get any ass anytime soon, hasn’t effected the fact that Shanahan is just doing something, anything to earn his salary, and it hasn’t effected the fact that the skins will need a new turf once Donnie starts burning worms……I could go on for days, McNabb will make ZERO difference, doesn’t matter where he goes, he may win a supe, ala Mark Brunell, as a back up…….Basically the skins got an older fatter Campbell……

  27. BroncFanOr says: Apr 5, 2010 5:34 PM

    Since when did McCoy become a first round choice now?

  28. Buttered Santa says: Apr 5, 2010 5:34 PM

    Dano50…Great point. I have been saying the same thing about a rookie scale next year. If they can’t trade out, take one of the DL’s. You will pay them less and get your QB next year.

  29. Dano50 says: Apr 5, 2010 5:40 PM

    TryTheVeal says:
    April 5, 2010 5:27 PM
    This just in…..The McNabb trade hasn’t effected global warming, hasn’t effected health care, hasn’t effected that mullet haired cowgirl fans are not gonna get any ass anytime soon, hasn’t effected the fact that Shanahan is just doing something, anything to earn his salary, and it hasn’t effected the fact that the skins will need a new turf once Donnie starts burning worms……I could go on for days, McNabb will make ZERO difference, doesn’t matter where he goes, he may win a supe, ala Mark Brunell, as a back up…….Basically the skins got an older fatter Campbell
    Just curious, have you actually ever watched a football game.

  30. Brewster says: Apr 5, 2010 5:51 PM

    Dano50 says: April 5, 2010 4:53 PM
    If Spags jumps on Bradford he should be shot, it would go down in history as the dumbest move in the sports world
    _____________________
    Dano50, ever hear of a football player (?), a QB no less, by the name of JaMarcus Russell?
    Taking Bradford wouldn’t even come close to the huge mistake of taking Russell with the first pick.

  31. Saint33 says: Apr 5, 2010 5:52 PM

    You really have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to the draft Florio.
    Colt McCoy in the teens? He isn’t going in the 20s let alone the teens. Jesus
    And this idea that Clausen will for sure come off the board before then is dumb as well. Everyone thought there was no way the Dolphins would pass on Quinn. But it’s the way things work with QBs in the first round, you don’t just take a guy because he’s there, you have to actually like him.
    I will eliminate almost half of the teams you listed right now.
    KC at 5? With the amount of money invested in Cassell, and a backup in which the team likes in Brody Croyle, not gunna happen. The Weis factor could come into play if he falls, and they decide to trade up for him, but I doubt it.
    Seahawks? What the hell did they just give up so much for Charlie Whitehurst for if they were targetting Clausen? Sorry, their out of the picture.
    Browns? Usually when a coach says he doesn’t like a player, he won’t go and use his 7th overall pick on that player.
    Bills? Maybe, but he’s a terrible fit for Chan Gailey’s offense. They’re much more likely to target a more mobile QB like Tebow or McCoy in the 2nd round.
    Jaguars? This is an option I hadn’t really considered. Makes some sense, although I wouldn’t consider it too likely with Garrard entrenched into the starting position. However Garrard’s future is in question so there is some possibility there.
    Broncos? With Kyle Orton and trading for Brady Quinn it’s not likely they would draft a QB, although not totally out of the picture since they don’t have much invested in either, and Orton’s long term status with the team is in question.
    Finally the 9ers. This is a legit possibility, but at the same time, not one I would bank on. Maybe with 2 picks, they feel they can take the risk on Clausen. But with Carr and Smith battling for the starting spot, and Nate Davis as their developmental backup, there isn’t a whole ton of room for another QB, unless they’d consider releasing one of the other 3, which wouldn’t be shocking.
    Anyway, I think a fall for Clausen is VERY possible. Arizona or Minnesota could end up having him fall right into their laps

  32. Stone says: Apr 5, 2010 5:58 PM

    McNabb and Washington’s #1 pick goes to St Louis for Bradford at the #1 pick. Spagnola knows McNabb from Philly and he needs to win now, not draft a QB to develop for 2 years from now.

  33. Dano50 says: Apr 5, 2010 5:59 PM

    robert ethan says:
    April 5, 2010 5:04 PM
    Dano50
    Stay away from Kent. Scuttlebutt is that he has some sort of condition that makes him vulnerable to krypton. You know every D lineman in the league is going to have a bit stashed on his person somewhere waiting to use it on the guy in a pile.
    lol

  34. InPeteWeTrust says: Apr 5, 2010 6:07 PM

    RuggSkins:
    not sure who Michael Okung is….Does Russel have a brother we don’t know about?

  35. Dano50 says: Apr 5, 2010 6:12 PM

    Dano50, ever hear of a football player (?), a QB no less, by the name of JaMarcus Russell?
    Taking Bradford wouldn’t even come close to the huge mistake of taking Russell with the first pick.
    Brewster, I agree, Ryan Leaf was another QB disaster. I’m looking more at the financial part of it. If the new CBA says for example, no more than 10 mil for a rookie, Spags shot his wad 40 million times to many. Something to think about. No what I’m saying??

  36. unex8598 says: Apr 5, 2010 7:21 PM

    ok… so let me get this straight…. the 49ers are confident enough in Alex Smith that they’re not going to give up a 2nd rounder for a hall of fame QB, but if an unproven over rated QB falls… then they would be “tempted” to waste a first on him? come on! get you’re head in the game!!

  37. JaredAllen69 says: Apr 5, 2010 7:47 PM

    End Baseball season? No. How about permanently ending basketball season? basketball is the ultimate sleeping pill. Not to mention the fact that basketball sucks ass.

  38. Drafty says: Apr 5, 2010 8:08 PM

    “If Clausen gets past the Bills, the Jaguars could be tempted at No. 10. Ditto for Denver at No. 11 …. So while a Brady Quinn-style free fall is possible, there are too many quarterback-needy teams this time around.”
    Don’t hold your breath waiting for McDips**t to take Clausen after just trading for Quinn. Very unlikely “Jimmy’s down!” winds up in Denver.

  39. bills83 says: Apr 5, 2010 10:17 PM

    Why does trading for McNabb stop the redskins from taking a QB at some point in the draft. McNabb is still in his 30s and eventually the redskins have to find someone to succeed McNabb. I am assuming at this point the Redskins are planning on trading Campbell. Drafting a QB now gives the redskins a chance to groom a future starter behind McNabb. Thus, (if the redskins are actually smart for once) won’t be stuck in the future starting a rookie QB.
    So your saying you want the redskins to spends their first and second round picks on QB’s? Dans dumb, not that stupid

  40. Dawg4Life says: Apr 7, 2010 12:24 PM

    @ bills83:
    I don’t think it’s that far fetched for Washington to make that trade up to number one. Really they didn’t give up much for McNabb, so compared to what it would typically take to move up to the top spot they would be getting a bargain.

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