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Trade condition creates strange incentive for Eagles, Redskins

A long time ago, in the ancient days of paper ballots, agents representing several Eagles were upset that the team was making it too difficult for fans to cast votes for Philly players with Pro Bowl bonuses in their contracts.  We’re reminded of that item from yesteryear because the Eagles now have a specific incentive to ensure that a former Philly player makes it to Honolulu.

As Rosenthal pointed out a little while ago, the fourth-round pick that the Redskins will send to the Eagles in 2011 becomes a third-round pick if quarterback Donovan McNabb participates in 70 percent of the snap and the team wins at least nine games, or if McNabb makes it to the Pro Bowl.

Jimmy Shapiro of SportsRadioInterviews.com made an interesting point in response to that reality.  What’s to stop the Eagles from hiring a computer expert to write a program that casts millions of votes for McNabb?  Though fan voting doesn’t determine the Pro Bowl berths, it still accounts for a full third of the process.

Meanwhile, the Redskins have zero incentive to make the case for McNabb.  If he doesn’t qualify for the all-star game, they keep their third-round pick.  (Unless they win nine games and he takes at least 70 percent of the snaps.)

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  1. okay says: Apr 6, 2010 6:09 PM

    I love this new F.O.!

  2. Stone says: Apr 6, 2010 6:10 PM

    This will all be moot when he is traded to St Louis. Find out what the clause is surrounding what happens to the terms of the trade if Washington were to trade him to another team.

  3. chemicalxv says: Apr 6, 2010 6:11 PM

    Meanwhile, the Redskins have zero incentive to make the case for McNabb. If he doesn’t qualify for the all-star game, they keep their third-round pick — even if they win the Super Bowl.

  4. Jonrox says: Apr 6, 2010 6:12 PM

    I thought you said the escalator was
    Pro Bowl
    OR
    9 wins + 70%

  5. jibfest says: Apr 6, 2010 6:12 PM

    My thoughts exactly. I’m gonna be logging on voting for McNabb like crazy!

  6. Cincinnasty says: Apr 6, 2010 6:12 PM

    Now this crap is digging bad!!

  7. firesnake says: Apr 6, 2010 6:12 PM

    Exactly. The Redskins will finish 8-0-8 (yes Donovan, there are ties in the regular season), make the playoffs, and win the super bowl.
    Donovan will make a Super Bowl dance when entering the Stadium in Dallas, looking really ridiculous.
    Oh wait …

  8. valko says: Apr 6, 2010 6:12 PM

    Oh man, this has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on PFT.

  9. Draft King says: Apr 6, 2010 6:12 PM

    Might we see the first-ever “don’t vote for our player” campaign by a team this year by Washington?

  10. RyanHarris says: Apr 6, 2010 6:13 PM

    FYI last year David Garrard ended up playing in the Pro Bowl.
    Soooo, is this deal set up if he is a starter in the Pro Bowl; or does it cost the Skins a round if the first 6 QB’s drop out?

  11. birdmancometh says: Apr 6, 2010 6:14 PM

    So wait, does he have to get VOTED IN or can he just make it like he did this year? Because they’re doing it the week before the super bowl again, and when you couple that with the fact that nobody wants to go he could make the pro bowl as the sixth choice.
    Your job now is to find this out for me Florio…aaaannnnnddd….GO!

  12. Adam_Bears_Fan says: Apr 6, 2010 6:16 PM

    If by interesting you mean stupid then yes, that’s a very interesting point!

  13. goose08 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:16 PM

    rosenthal says 1 of 2 things has to happen, you say both…which is it?

  14. birdmancometh says: Apr 6, 2010 6:17 PM

    “they keep their third-round pick — even if they win the Super Bowl.”
    Not if they win 9 games in the regular season on the way to their Super Bowl. Don’t you read Greggs’ articles Mike? It only has to be 1 of the 2.

  15. RuggSkins says: Apr 6, 2010 6:17 PM

    Mr Florio,
    You left out… the skins give up their 3rd round pick if the Skins win 9 games.

  16. thunderdog says: Apr 6, 2010 6:17 PM

    Or how about this–the Eagles and the Redskins meet in the last game of the season with the Redskins sitting at 8-7. Game has no playoff implications for either team.
    We could see the Eagles trying to let the Redskins win the game while the Redskins try to lose it. The Eagles line up Kolb and Jackson at linebacker. The Redskins have Portis line up at nose tackle.
    The game is 0-0 after five quarters. Donovan, of course, wants to keep playing.

  17. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Apr 6, 2010 6:17 PM

    leave it up to PFT to try and build a house of tooth picks
    just filling your daily quota huh Florio

  18. Zoology says: Apr 6, 2010 6:17 PM

    “As Rosenthal pointed out a little while ago, the fourth-round pick that the Redskins will send to the Eagles in 2011 becomes a third-round pick if quarterback Donovan McNabb participates in 70 percent of the snap, if the team wins at least nine games, and if McNabb makes it to the Pro Bowl.”
    there’s a difference between “and” and “or”.

  19. QuickBoomerang says: Apr 6, 2010 6:17 PM

    Couldn’t the same computer program vote for other QB’s in the NFC to keep them ahead of McNabb?
    Just a thought…

  20. exzactly says: Apr 6, 2010 6:19 PM

    umm..the Pro Bowl is not in Hawaii anymore…

  21. red13 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:20 PM

    “If he doesn’t qualify for the all-star game, they keep their third-round pick — even if they win the Super Bowl.”
    *******************************
    WRONG!
    According to the terms:
    The pick can improve to a third round if one of two things happen.
    1. McNabb goes to the Pro Bowl.
    2. The Redskins win nine games and McNabb plays at least 70% of the team’s snaps.
    The Skins will not win the superbowl if they don’t win 9 games, and they won’t win 9 games if McNabb doesn’t take 70% of the snaps (ask Chicago how many games Grossman will win for them.) So, in reality, the Skins will lose the 3rd rounder if they win the SB. Of course, if Florio picks them to win the SB again this year, they wil definitely get to keep the 3rd round pick in 2011.

  22. Juan says: Apr 6, 2010 6:21 PM

    Well it would be hard for McNabb to make the Pro Bowl if he doesn’t play 70% of the snaps to begin with… Agreed?

  23. mihan says: Apr 6, 2010 6:22 PM

    This is what this site has become?
    You honestly don’t think the Redskins would be willing to essentially trade down one round next year if McNabb has as Pro Bowl season? If a QB has a Pro Bowl year, doesn’t that usually mean his team is winning?
    I’ll usually defend you Florio but this is just dumb. You’re better than this.

  24. nittanylion0 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:23 PM

    i hope for Eagles fans’ sake, that Andy & Co. are done doing Don any favors

  25. Bird Man says: Apr 6, 2010 6:24 PM

    Rosenthal’s report said that the pick would turn into a third-rounder if he plays 70% of the snaps and the team wins nine games OR he makes the pro bowl. Which is it?

  26. Fonetik says: Apr 6, 2010 6:25 PM

    “if the team wins at least nine games”
    Well, 4th rounder it is

  27. archd3 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:25 PM

    We all saw how valuable the fan vote really is two years ago when the Redskins played that “vote the Redskins ticket” PR stunt and almost had an NFC clean sweep of the fan vote.
    Results: only Portis, Sellers, Cooley and Samuels — who all earned their spot.
    Would have thought the campaign would have netted them at least the Kicker or Special Teamer spot outright…

  28. edgy1957 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:26 PM

    You know, if they won the Super Bowl, the whole town would hold a parade and Dan Snyder would have the biggest shit eating grin on his face when he lofts the trophy and says “I’m so happy to get thsi trophy and I hope that Philly enjoys that third round pick.” Hell, he might even upgrade it to a second round pick and send his private jet to Philly to present it to the Eagles.

  29. Mark0226 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:26 PM

    Does he have to play in the Pro Bowl or just be selected? How about if he is the fourth alternate, but everyone above him was either playing in the Super Bowl, so had to miss the Pro Bowl, or declined to participate?

  30. Chapnasty2 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:27 PM

    “What’s to stop the Eagles from hiring a computer expert to write a program that casts millions of votes for McNabb? Though fan voting doesn’t determine the Pro Bowl berths, it still accounts for a full third of the process.”
    500 McNabb stories later there is finally one good point.

  31. Terence_Sanders says: Apr 6, 2010 6:28 PM

    Yeah, because the Redskins will win the Superbowl– or even qualify for the Playoffs– with less than 9 wins.
    I’m pretty certain the Eagles would be giving up a lot more once the “program” was discovered by the NFL.
    Do some legitimate reporting, Florio.
    We all get it. You think, blog, and call it news.
    Now try “research”.

  32. MostNutsEver says: Apr 6, 2010 6:28 PM

    That last part about the Super Bowl doesn’t work in practice, since the Redskins most definitely would have to win at least 9 games (and McNabb plays 70% of the snaps) to make the postseason, which you said in an earlier post is an either/or proposition for the Eagles getting the earlier pick.

  33. Bigbluefan says: Apr 6, 2010 6:29 PM

    I want the Giants to win it all but if they don’t then I hope the skins do
    I would love to hear all the Filthy fans whine if #5 got his ring in DC
    Maybe just maybe andy will get what he is due a one way ticket to the curb

  34. stiller43 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:29 PM

    Or what’s to stop Jeffrey Lurie from telling all his players to vote for McNabb for the Pro Bowl? 53 player votes actually count a good deal.

  35. udel97 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:33 PM

    “As Rosenthal pointed out a little while ago, the fourth-round pick that the Redskins will send to the Eagles in 2011 becomes a third-round pick if quarterback Donovan McNabb participates in 70 percent of the snap, if the team wins at least nine games, or if McNabb makes it to the Pro Bowl”
    “Meanwhile, the Redskins have zero incentive to make the case for McNabb. If he doesn’t qualify for the all-star game, they keep their third-round pick — even if they win the Super Bowl”.
    If they win the super bowl, I think they wouldve won 9 games

  36. AdamEagle5 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:33 PM

    Just a note on that last comment, Florio… It is (realistically) impossible for the Skins to win the SB if they win less than 9 games. I don’t have time to check on who the last .500 team was to make the playoffs, but I know enough that it doesn’t happen very often.

  37. botchedextrapoint says: Apr 6, 2010 6:34 PM

    Fans won’t care enough to make a difference

  38. Westport Johnny says: Apr 6, 2010 6:35 PM

    Mike- think the 2011 pick is a 3rd rounder if any one of the 3 conditions being met- its not conditional on all 3 happening.
    I’ll write the darn program and vote for McPuke myself to ensure the Iggles get a 3rd rounder.

  39. wvugrad00 says: Apr 6, 2010 6:35 PM

    “Meanwhile, the Redskins have zero incentive to make the case for McNabb. If he doesn’t qualify for the all-star game, they keep their third-round pick — even if they win the Super Bowl.”
    When has an 8-8 team ever won the Super Bowl?
    One would have to think if the Redskins are in the playoffs, then McNabb has
    1 – taken 70% of the snaps
    2 – won more than 9 games

  40. jaywon says: Apr 6, 2010 6:36 PM

    well if the pro bowl is the joke it was this year, he could win 4 games and make the pro bowl

  41. Youngone says: Apr 6, 2010 6:36 PM

    Just Wow

  42. Bruce says: Apr 6, 2010 6:37 PM

    I could write that program. But I’m pissed about the trade so call someone else.

  43. GDHussak says: Apr 6, 2010 6:39 PM

    Am I missing something?
    Paragraph 2: Eagles will get 3rd round pick if McNabb is in on 70% of snaps, OR if the Redskins win 9+ games, OR if McNabb makes the Pro Bowl.
    Paragrpah 4: How can the Redskins win the Super Bowl with less than 9 wins?
    Sounds like 9 wins and McNabb playing 70% are both common sense precursors to him making the Pro Bowl.
    Somethings missing Florio – how I’d love to see NBC splurge for an editor for your blog.

  44. Bruce says: Apr 6, 2010 6:40 PM

    “We could see the Eagles trying to let the Redskins win the game while the Redskins try to lose it. The Eagles line up Kolb and Jackson at linebacker. The Redskins have Portis line up at nose tackle.”
    Or they could just put Kolb in at quarterback. Oh wait.

  45. december says: Apr 6, 2010 6:41 PM

    “…the Redskins will send to the Eagles in 2011 becomes a third-round pick if quarterback Donovan McNabb participates in 70 percent of the snap and the team wins at least nine games, or if McNabb makes it to the Pro Bowl.”
    To make a long story short: the eagles are getting the 4th round pick, cause ain’t none of that happening.

  46. spyboots says: Apr 6, 2010 6:44 PM

    Might be a good idea to have Florio Jr. help you with your reading-comprehensive skills.

  47. Howboutdemcowboys says: Apr 6, 2010 6:49 PM

    @ thunderdog
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    That and about 10 million other ridiculous situations were running through my head as I read that worthless post.
    Jimmy Shapiro of SportsRadioInterviews.com made a nonsensical point and whats worse is that Florio echoed it, and whats worse worse, I read it . . .and whats worse worse worse. I commented on it
    We are all now dumber for having heard that. You are awarded no points and may god have mercy on your soul.

  48. pacificamike says: Apr 6, 2010 6:51 PM

    FLORIO! you miserable POS!

  49. MagicMan407 says: Apr 6, 2010 7:00 PM

    It looks like either way the Eagles shoudl have something to celebrate if Mcnabb wins 9 games? Or goes to the probowl? Thats fair to me.. And punks it could happen pretty easy. I wouldnt be upset with giving up a 3rd rounder if the Redskins can get some offense together. GOD YOU GUYS ARE HATERS!

  50. skindome says: Apr 6, 2010 7:00 PM

    with rogers, breese, romo, farve, possible manning looks like a 4th for the birds

  51. GaryClark says: Apr 6, 2010 7:19 PM

    Earn this McNabb…Earn this….

  52. Rocksteady says: Apr 6, 2010 8:01 PM

    As a true and green Eagles fan, I’ll be sure to vote for McNabb at least 1,000 times.
    Go me!

  53. eaglemafia says: Apr 6, 2010 8:33 PM

    Ok so if week 17 is Eagles vs foreskins and the foreskins are 8 and 7 a lot people say what if the skins try to give it to the eagles, but what if they decide to make mcnabb sit out that game? Now That would be very smart…..just saying

  54. Floriosadouchebag says: Apr 6, 2010 9:05 PM

    Don’t worry you front running Philly fans. McNabb is a lock to get to the pro bowl this year. He is going to stick it to the front office that is as stupid as my friend, Lowell Rikert.

  55. palewook says: Apr 6, 2010 9:14 PM

    could probably get some 4chan guys to do in their spare time..

  56. DanSnyder says: Apr 6, 2010 9:24 PM

    As for the whole 9 games playoffs/superbowl thing. Remember the Nfc EAST is extremely competitive now with all 4 teams looking to at least have a remote shot. Couple that with the fact the the schedule for the NFC east, 6 divisional games, indy, tennessee, houston, jacksonville, minnesota, greenbay, chicago, detroit, and the 2 teams of same ranking the east has a pretty tough schedule. It is feasible that at 8-8 if the division is really tight could make the playoffs. Likely? No, but quite possible.

  57. Reggie'sBush says: Apr 6, 2010 9:48 PM

    Am I the only one who realizes the Redskins still suck and wont even reach 8-8?

  58. mustbechris says: Apr 6, 2010 9:50 PM

    this is stupid.

  59. hotchick says: Apr 6, 2010 9:53 PM

    Geesh guys he was just using the extreme example of the Super Bowl win without 9 wins to amplify the point.
    The point being that Eagle fans and Eagles brass can see a bright side to McNabb having a pro bowl caliber season, after trading him away. (That’s more ironic then anything Alanis Morrisette sings about)
    Skins fans could see a down side to McNabb making the pro-bowl this year.
    The skins would be best suited for the team to go 8-8 and McNabb not make the pro-bowl, then go 9-7, if neither scenario results in a playoff berth.
    8-8 and a pro bowl berth should be an unwanted 2010 season.
    The gimmick to the deal might also point out that the Skins foresee the big payoff of the trade beginning in 2011.

  60. Sasquash says: Apr 7, 2010 12:20 AM

    He will get the fan vote. As soon as I can vote I will. Over and over, again and again. 70 Percent plays, maybe we shouldn’t cheapshot the Foreskin QB.

  61. el_dude00 says: Apr 7, 2010 12:36 AM

    “What’s to stop the Eagles from hiring a computer expert to write a program that casts millions of votes for McNabb?” – MF
    There is only one dude who could do that, and he’s prolly in a Winnebago knee deep in sweet blonde trim and all the Fritos he can handle.
    Lazlo from Real Genius. He knows the code.
    If you find him you better have a massive closet / basement combo.
    Good luck with all of that.

  62. recent says: Apr 7, 2010 10:47 AM

    What if Kolb is voted as the 3rd NFC Pro Bowl QB and McNabb is 4th? Do the Eagles ask Kolb to step down to improve the pick?
    I may have just blew Florio’s mind.

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