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DeSean Jackson: "It was time for a change"

D. Jackson.jpgIn comments to newspaper reporters Wednesday, Eagles receiver DeSean Jackson tried to say the right things about Donovan McNabb’s depature.

He seemed less concerned with politics on 97.5 in Philadelphia, a radio station that pays him for a show during the season. (Such arrangements are the norm with major players.)

It was time for a change,” said Jackson, according to the Philadelphia Daily News.
“We’ve got some young players here.  I’m just excited about everything.”

Jackson’s radio buddies gave him a chance to retract the words.  He didn’t back down.

“At the end of the day, I’m not the owner,” Jackson said.  “Obviously, that’s not just my opinion.  [But] I’m not going to get
caught up in saying . . . whatever.”

Were Jackson’s transparent feelings a major factor in the deal?  We highly doubt it.  But the Eagles wanted their young skill players to develop as one.  It looks like Jackson felt the same way, and that couldn’t happen with Kevin Kolb on the bench.

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  1. Philly4for4guy says: Apr 7, 2010 9:37 AM

    The media is simply forcing a story out of these players because they are running out of McNabb news for now. #sad

  2. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 9:37 AM

    Everyone on the roster except McNabb was under 30.
    Do the math.
    They’ve had this plan in place for years now.

  3. RIP__21 says: Apr 7, 2010 9:38 AM

    Always good to have confidence in the guys you have on the roster but Kolb hasnt proven anything. Yea I know he set a record with b2b 300 yard games but that was against the saints when they were getting blown out and had to pass and vs a pathetic Chiefs team.
    Lets see if KK had do that for a full 16 game slate…I doubt he will. Eagles go 7-9; and Desean “Sting They Ass” Jackson production goes WAYYYYYYY down.

  4. BleedGreen says: Apr 7, 2010 9:39 AM

    So it seems that more than just a few people on the team wanted McNabb gone. Better team chemistry maybe?

  5. Cleg says: Apr 7, 2010 9:40 AM

    Desean in a punk. Kolb will not throw him 60 yard bombs like McNabb did. The league will figure him out. He is a diva who is too small to be so mouthy. I don’t like players to get injured but I can’t say I will be heartbroken when this little punk is lying, broken on the turf. He will also divide that locker room once he starts pouting for more money.

  6. mike_311 says: Apr 7, 2010 9:44 AM

    Develop together? Jackson is only going to be around for two years or so til he gets broken.

  7. wryly1 says: Apr 7, 2010 9:44 AM

    Um – It was Eagles F.O. that determined it was ‘time for a change’, not Jackson. What useful purpose would there be to confront his employer about that now? DUH!

  8. tombrookshire says: Apr 7, 2010 9:45 AM

    Jackson’s words had no impact, but McNabb’s blaming of the young guys rather than taking responsibility the way a leader should made the decision easier. Gregg, you are right. The Eagles wanted the young offensive players to develop as a group. A good decision. However, the defense, made worse with the trade of S. Brown, will continue to be the weak link, and will often negate the good things the offense does in 2010. Same with special teams. A new ST guru, but the same players who stunk it up last season. Lots of brilliant offensive stats. Too few wins. Prediction: 8-8.

  9. nasheagles says: Apr 7, 2010 9:49 AM

    Kolb will get him the ball faster and enroute…if the O-line gets healthy… the offense will score in bunches… Eagles need both a new will and Sam and Both Safety spots…

  10. D.R.Universal says: Apr 7, 2010 9:51 AM

    We’ll see what his comments are when the birds go 5-11 this season…
    “Yeah it was time for a change..we got tired of being contenders every year and playing in NFC championship games…we needed to have a down year”
    These guys dont realize there are only a handful of elite NFL QBs and like or not D5 was one of them

  11. mrEagle says: Apr 7, 2010 9:53 AM

    Its called supporting your Current QB. I am sure if McNabb signed an extension with Philly he would have said that was the right choice too. This is such a Non-Story its not funny!!

  12. KingDolfan says: Apr 7, 2010 9:59 AM

    “It was time for a change,” said Jackson according to the Philadelphia Daily News.
    Dude,
    No pun intended but you have been in Philly for a NEW YORK minute and you’re talking about it’s time for a change?
    You better have someone change your diapers because it smells like you did something.

  13. Drat says: Apr 7, 2010 10:01 AM

    Jackson will be loving it when passes sail north, south, east and west of his hands.

  14. Bwa Ha Ha says: Apr 7, 2010 10:02 AM

    Draft a center early, then spend tha rest of the draft on the Defense. I’d be OK packaging the Eagles 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks to move into the top 8 or so. They would still have picks in all three rounds because they have massed extras. Get the Blue Chipper on Defense that they need, either DE or Safety.
    The offense will be fine under Kolb

  15. pjhurley says: Apr 7, 2010 10:05 AM

    Total non-story…you support not only the guys you’re with but also your F.O. when you’re hoping to say the right things to get a better deal than your current one. What do you want him to say? I really wish we hadn’t traded Donovan because this Kolb guy’s a real scrub? Stop trying to milk this thing for more than it was worth…

  16. MayhewSux says: Apr 7, 2010 10:07 AM

    hahah eagle fans u got a change….. a big change… kolb gets hurt in the first game and then vick is ur qb… good luck with that… run mcnabb out of town and ur done .
    Yes mcnabb never won a superbowl or was 1-4 in nfc championship games… NO WHY because u werent the better TEAM. DAMn eagle fans are open ur eyesss… Hope the PHillies dont flop cause ur gonna be sad
    u got what u wished for though . hope u like it

  17. Tim Tebow's Prayers says: Apr 7, 2010 10:07 AM

    Nice original twist on the Daily News story. How stuff like this is not plagiarism is beyond me.

  18. TheDPR says: Apr 7, 2010 10:09 AM

    mrEagle has it. This is a non-story. It isn’t as if DJax wanted 5 gone (yeah, I’m using nicknames).
    The defense is a mess and getting rid of Sheldon Brown in return for next to nothing hurts. Will Stewart Bradley be back to form? Who plays the strong and weak side LB? Will Mikell and Harris finally become NFL safeties or will they continue to be liabilities in the defensive backfield? Who starts opposite Samuel? Will Tapp give them the pass rush opposite Cole that they’ve been waiting for? WAY too many questions on that defense for comfort.
    As for offense, I’m not sold on McCoy. In fact, I think he’s mediocre on his best days. He’s not the game-changer Westbrook was in his prime. Will Maclin start playing fast and provide a good complement to Jackson?
    Lots of questions with this team.

  19. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 10:11 AM

    DR – you don’t get it. You are probably a Lions fan.

  20. tombrookshire says: Apr 7, 2010 10:12 AM

    @D.R.Universal – McNabb is No. 14 on my list. Makes the top 50% of NFL QBs. Wouldn’t still call him elite, though. He is in the “good” catagory. 13 guys are better and make my “great” list. Still, there are not 32 guys in the entire world who could play QB 11 years in the NFL, so we must give McNabb his props. I was never a McNabb fan, and I am glad he is gone, yet I respect what he has done. Unlike many Eagles fans, being in the hunt each year is just not good enough for me. Regular season wins no longers gets me excited. I expect more. I deserve more for my 40 years of loyalty. McNabb clearly wasn’t going to get it done. Though I don’t know how much of an anchor around his neck Andy Reid was. We’ll see if a change in QB makes Reid a better coach. If not, I hope that he is next out the door.

  21. filthymcnasty says: Apr 7, 2010 10:12 AM

    thank you baby T.O., err…Brandon Marshall.
    If the report that D-Jax rounded up other teammates to push the McNabb trade through and the Eagles falter early, could mean one fat man with a utility belt will be in trouble.

  22. DonTerrelli says: Apr 7, 2010 10:15 AM

    McNabb made him the star he is. “Time for a change”? after 2 seasons? Jackson is an ungrateful punk.

  23. raiderrob21 says: Apr 7, 2010 10:16 AM

    I like the Eagles and got much Bay Area love for DeSean….BUT keep your mouth shut on that topic homie. You havent been there long enough to say anything like you did. Let the Vets speak on it, even they wouldnt say that. Thats up to the Coach and front office people to make those comments.

  24. BrownsTown says: Apr 7, 2010 10:18 AM

    Everybody in Philly has lost their damn mind. Even one-dimensional WRs who benefited from McNabb’s arm are piling on now?

  25. inmotion2207 says: Apr 7, 2010 10:18 AM

    Jackson will learn the characteristics of humility real fast once he realizes what he missed in having a QB like McNabb.

  26. rkell21 says: Apr 7, 2010 10:18 AM

    This is way out of context. You media guys should be ashamed of yourself.
    I heard this interview live, he was saying how with all the commotion of who’s gonna get traded and who isn’t, he’s happy that everything is settled and ready to move on.
    He had great things to say about mcnabb, but it doesn’t seem like those statements found its way into this story. Why doesn’t someone actually listen to the audio before you start playing ‘whisper down the lane.’

  27. myeaglescantwin says: Apr 7, 2010 10:19 AM

    DeSean is chill as hell. Why support a guy that tried to pass the buc to his young recievers after one of the Dallas losses.
    He wants someone who can GET him the ball when he’s open and burning down the field.
    Maclin wants someone to lead him with a pass that hits his hands. Not a guy who throws behind a WR and low.
    Celek wants a QB that can actually know his route in traffic and get him some catches. not a guy who still looks for LJsmith
    Avant will just catch anything that comes his way dont matter if its FatAndy throwin it
    And Eagles fans wants someone who isnt a clown on the field. We want a quarter back who can call and audible & who knows how many time outs his team has.
    & if the game/time management problems dont go away with Dmac, then we will be callin for Andy’s head next..
    IT’s already in my mind that WE NEED TO DROP MORNHENWEG IN THE WORST WAY

  28. rockotica says: Apr 7, 2010 10:23 AM

    what an idiot….he had one good year (not to mention that embarrassing pre-end zone ball drop against dallas) and now he’s bashing a hall of famer legend. after he has made 6 champ games 5 pro bowls a SB and countless other great accomplishments maybe he could talk. get injured DJ!

  29. GOVIKES|GOVIKES says: Apr 7, 2010 10:30 AM

    Yet another person in Philly that will be singing a different tune this time next year. I can’t wait for the sidestepping and explanations when the Eagles are third in their division and don’t make the playoffs.
    As I said yesterday, congrats Cowboys on another division win, and another playoff loss in the Metrodome.
    P.S. GO VIKES!

  30. mikedog44 says: Apr 7, 2010 10:30 AM

    5 is a bum!! How many of Donovan’s touchdown passes this year or any year for that matter hit a reciever in stride? Every deep ball that he threw the reciever had to slow down or make a great move to catch it. Alot of people on here saying that Kolb’s not the answer and never will be. How do you know he’s not? You are almost as Ruhtarded as McNabb if you dont think he has talent. WAAAA my McNabb is gone WAAAA. Mcnabb will never win a superbowl so thank you for aspiring to be morons

  31. steeelfann says: Apr 7, 2010 10:34 AM

    Bottom Line:
    After Philly was crushed not once, but twice by Dallas this year, it was over for McNabb. Look at his stats in those games.
    McNabb has always been “fairly” classy and he kept his teams competitive. But can one say it was because of him that they went to those championships, or despite him, or a combination thereof?
    One thing is certain, I have never, in all these years, heard McNabb described as Mr. Clutch.
    He never had great receivers, now he has a few. But one can make the argument that Tom Brady did not have great receivers either until he got Moss and Welker. But yet, Branch, Givens, a few of those FL wideouts, etc. continued to produce for NE and they garnered Championships. So…………it is the chicken or the egg? It will always be arguied about McNabb. Factually, he is some place in the middle. At times showing great athleticism, accuracy, leadership. Other times, not so accurate, not very good leadership, etc.

  32. realitypolice says: Apr 7, 2010 10:34 AM

    “Time for a change”? He should have said:
    “Yeah, I got tired of running full speed under a perfect 60 yard bomb that landed right in my hands in full stride so I could walk into the end zone. (unless I dropped the ball at the 1 yard in a premature celebration that is). It will be so much better this year having to break off my routes and come back for under thown balls that I will have to stop to catch, and then try to turn upfield. Yards after the catch are sooooooo overrated.”

  33. JimBell76 says: Apr 7, 2010 10:35 AM

    The bottom line is DJax just wants to get his, hence he hired The Shark, Drew Rosenhaus.
    Whats the most logical way for DJax to get his? With the people making the most money to be traded or released. Its not rocket science. Players choose money over playing for championship teams in EVERY sport, EVERY year. You think they are going to mind playing for a less proven QB if it means more money for them? Nope.
    And I’m not saying they are wrong, thats just the reality.

  34. flavordave says: Apr 7, 2010 10:40 AM

    IS Desean a PhillyFAN? NO. Hes a player and he agrees that balls thrown in the ground dont fit a quick pass west coast style offense. You have to hit em in stride. Remember the pass at Hank Baskets feet in the NFC championship game? I still do. Good luck w that and the moonwalk dances washington.

  35. irish4life says: Apr 7, 2010 10:43 AM

    I agree with D. Jackson. You cant do the same thing over and over again and expect to get the different results. McNabb had his chance to win the big games and never could get past that hump.
    Change is good going into the future. The Eagles are trying to get younger so why not get younger at QB. I Would be happy to if I was Jackson. He’ll have a QB who is not hot and cold.

  36. RedRaider58 says: Apr 7, 2010 10:46 AM

    Same Coach + Same Offensive Game Plan = same results.
    Doesn’t matter who you put at QB, throw the ball 60% of the time, you’re only going to get so far. You HAVE to have a running game that people respect and you can go to when you have the lead. The Eagles don’t do that. How many times have we seen them with a 4 point lead late in the 4th quarter and Reid is passing the ball 3 straight plays from their own 15 yard line?

  37. realitypolice says: Apr 7, 2010 10:50 AM

    nasheagles says:
    April 7, 2010 9:49 AM
    Kolb will get him the ball faster and enroute
    ===================
    Are you kidding?
    There are lots of things to criticize McNabb for, but his ability to get the ball in DJ’s hands deep down field in stride isn’t one of them. They connected on more long touchdowns in the 2 years they played together as almost any other tandem.
    You have absolutely no reason to believe, other than blind faith, that KK will be able to do this even half as well as McNabb.

  38. eaglelover1 says: Apr 7, 2010 10:55 AM

    @ tombrookshire
    Could you please name those “13 QB better than Mcnabb”. I’d like to see which QB besides Warner, Brees, Rothlisberger, Manning, Brady, have been to a Conference Champioship game in the last 2 years.
    I hope all you ungrateful Eagles realize this. IMO if Kolb doesn’ty make the SB in his 2nd year he was not better than Mcnabb. You see Mcnabb’s 2nd year a sa starter he lost to the Warner and Faulk led Rams in the NFC chanpionship games with far less weapons than Kolb has now.
    He has to WIN a SB in his first 5 years or he was a bust. Again Mcnabb LOST Conference Champioship games in his FIRST 5 years as a starter.

  39. wferg1121 says: Apr 7, 2010 10:55 AM

    Don’t worry it will be “time for a change” once Desean turns 30 as well… Also what fan wants to buy an Eagle jersey when they get rid of your favorite players in 5-8 years.. If your a young player going to the Eagles you already know that it is not going to be your last stop,if your contract is expensive on the back end.. Guaranteed your getting cut..complete joke..

  40. eaglelover1 says: Apr 7, 2010 10:59 AM

    Oh here’s another tidbit of information that you Mcnabb haters need to research on….. name the last team to win a SB WITHOUT a RUNNING GAME. Then name the last Eagle RB to gain 1100 plus yards RUSHING ALONE.
    Hint: it won’t be during the Andy Reid era. Considering teams KNEW what the Eagles were going to do and Mcnabb still beat them with NO QUALITY WR’s is he still the #14 QB in the league?
    And to tombrookshire I am still waiting on your list.

  41. wubanga101 says: Apr 7, 2010 11:02 AM

    The Eagles offense will be better with Kolb as the QB. I’ve read what a lot of you morons have to say about the fact that McNabb won’t be throwing Jackson bombs anymore so his production will go way down, well all of that is totally wrong. I will bet that Jackson numbers increase next season because Kolb is more capable of getting the ball to Jackson quicker. Sure McNabb has a stronger arm but recievers would rather catch a 40 yard strike in stride moments after the balls snapped than have to wait for the play to break down because McNabb can’t make a decision and then he chucks it over the wrong side of the receivers shoulder making that receiver do all the work by catching a terribly inaccurate football. The Eagles win total will most certainly decrease in ’11 in comparison to ’10 but most of that will have to do with how tough their schedule is and the gaping holes in their defense. I believe the offense if going to improve, maybe not points wise because the Eagles set a franchise record last year (which had a lot to do with the fact that they played 11 games against teams with a .500 record or worse. That will not be the case in ’11), but rhythm wise. Next year I think you’re going to see a lot more sustained drives that end with a TD, instead of just trying to chuck it 50 yards three times then walk off the field. Jackson’s numbers will improve, Maclin’s numbers will improve, and Celek’s number should be similar to last years if not better. Kolb is more suited for the WCO than McNabb is whether people want to admit to that or not. I think if ownership, management, the coaching staff, and the player’s all think that Kolb is the way to go then maybe they know a little more than all of you haters who are against this kid. I think I’ll take their opinion over yours considering most of you people know nothing.

  42. jan van flac says: Apr 7, 2010 11:14 AM

    @ realitypolice
    do you even watch the games?
    every single 60 yard bomb was off target, DJax had to make a major adjustment to catch it and if he hadn’t dropped the DB by 20 yeards the ball would have been knocked away.
    I think DMac has been a great QB, but his accuracy is all over the place. Even on the deep ball.
    Contrast this with the 2 games where Kolb hit him in stride on a medium crossing route and he blew everyone away on the way to the end zone.

  43. nasheagles says: Apr 7, 2010 11:23 AM

    Kolb will throw for more yards and TD’s than McNabb, Romo and Manning… so everyone who puts him as the 4th best in the division will change their tune.

  44. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 11:31 AM

    Eaglelover…
    Westbrook, Brian
    1,333 rushing on 278 carries / 771 receiving in 2007
    1,217 rushing on 240 carries / 699 receiving in 2006
    Now spin why those don’t “count”.
    You are not an Eagle fan, you are a McNabb fan. Go buy a Redskins jersey.
    Seriously, how can you not know these stats? I question your fanhood, bro.
    Your post is a TOTAL violation.

  45. KevinKolb4SB says: Apr 7, 2010 11:31 AM

    Jackson had over 100 yards in both games Kolb started and two touchdowns, both over 50 yards. I think he will be fine.

  46. tombrookshire says: Apr 7, 2010 11:33 AM

    @eaglelover1 – You asked for it – Here is my “great” list of QBs in NO particular order, and in some cases, the rating is based on potential greatness. But, that’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it. McNabb was at the end of 2009 the 14th best QB in the NFL.
    1. Patriots – Tom Brady
    2. Colts – Peyton Manning – P
    3. Bengals – Carson Palmer – P
    4. Steelers – Ben Roethlisberger
    5. Jets – Mark Sanchez – P
    6. Saints – Drew Brees – P
    7. Chargers – Phillip Rivers – P
    8. Giants – Eli Manning
    9. Lions – Matt Stafford
    10. Texans – Matt Schaub
    11. Vikings – Brett Favre – P
    12. Packers – Aaron Rodgers – P
    13. Falcons – Matt Ryan
    P= 2009 playoffs

  47. wubanga101 says: Apr 7, 2010 11:39 AM

    @ Jan Van Flac, RIGHT ON!!
    We must have been writing the same things around the same time!

  48. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 11:43 AM

    fakeeagleslover…
    If you offered McNabb straight up for the following QB’s, you would be laughed at by the GM:
    Manning
    Brady
    Brees
    Rivers
    Flacco
    Ryan
    Cutler
    Sanchez
    Ben
    Rodgers
    Favre
    Shaub
    Romo
    Eli
    That’s 14, so if you question is where he stands in terms of “value” around the NFL. Stafford probably would not be available either.
    Now go buy a Redskins foam finger.
    Seriously, how did you not know about Brian Westbrook?

  49. buddha says: Apr 7, 2010 11:45 AM

    Man you haters are funny! First of all, McNabb was NOT an accurate passer. Check the stats. I think he was like 20th in the league as far as completion % goes. Kolb is a much more accurat QB. McNabb had all the ability to make plays, but that was his problem. The Eagles only seemed to score off of big plays. McNabb rarely put together a long scoring drive. And to the people that wanna say that Desean will be a problem??? He has been nothing but a good teammate and has supported his teammates in every way. You guys just wanna “predict” a bunch of bullshit!! I can do the same, watch. Romo, Eli Manning, and McNabb will all suffer career endind injuries. HaHa. See how stupid that sounds. You haters just keep hating, OK?? We’ll see what happens this season. Go Birds!!!!

  50. boleyn9 says: Apr 7, 2010 11:57 AM

    Matt Stafford and Mark Sanchez should not even be mentioned in the same post comparing them to McNabb. What a foolish post.

  51. karmathaitch says: Apr 7, 2010 12:00 PM

    Even tho he should keep his mouth shut, hes right, and people need to wake up. Eagles are a better team now that they dropped dead weight..

  52. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 12:07 PM

    My post is about McNabb’s ‘value’ around the league.
    If you offered McNabb for Stafford or Sanchez you’d be told ‘no’.
    As far as who is ‘better’, I would not include many of the names on my list. And those two certainly would not make the cut.

  53. BlondBlueDevils says: Apr 7, 2010 12:08 PM

    Lets just see if he believes in change when Macklin becomes the number 1 option at receiver.
    As far as Kolb, he’s just like Matt “Choke” Ryan in Atlanta.
    Everyone was saying Vick was not a quarterback, yet Matt “Choke” Ryan has turned out to be a PICK MACHINE. In his senior year in the weak A.C.C. he threw 22 PICKS as a 5th year senior, then in the NFL he picked up where he left off, with 18 picks in his last 16 games started. Still waiting for the 1st playoff win and division title.
    Kolb is just like Ryan – weak arm and can only throw quick slants. Put press coverage on them and their weak arms are exposed.
    Jackson will be calling for another change by week 3.
    I still believe Andy Reid had plans for Mike Vick being the starter the day he signed him after Atlanta released him.

  54. D.R.Universal says: Apr 7, 2010 12:12 PM

    @Mooch..nope..Panthers..
    and what makes me a moron? just bc I have a different opinion than you?
    thats real mature…
    fyi..i dont have a problem with Jack supporting his new QB but the “it was time for a change” line was whack! there was no need to say anything, especially since D5 was the one throwing him the bombs that made him look good
    and yes he is still one of the best QBs..everyone is so quick to annoint Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez, Rivers, Schaub, Cutlet, Romo, etc but what have they proven?
    ONLY QBs I would take to win RIGHT NOW are:
    Brees, Brady, Manning…thats it
    The rest of the QBs may have nice stats but they havent gotten as far as D5 has…facts dont lie

  55. DonDelusion says: Apr 7, 2010 12:13 PM

    The guy’s been asked a hundred times about the McNabb trade and is probably just trying to be an optimist. Like joseph2112 said yesterday, there is no right answer.

  56. BlondBlueDevils says: Apr 7, 2010 12:19 PM

    “Eagle Poll”:
    Number of games before Kolb is benched:
    1) Week one
    2) Week two
    3) Week three

  57. aaronh1028 says: Apr 7, 2010 12:19 PM

    This dude is gonna be out of the league in a about a few years… After Laron Landry breaks his tiny frame in two… accidently of course…

  58. jlbay says: Apr 7, 2010 12:27 PM

    RIP__21 says:
    April 7, 2010 9:38 AM
    “Always good to have confidence in the guys you have on the roster but Kolb hasnt proven anything. Yea I know he set a record with b2b 300 yard games but that was against the saints when they were getting blown out”
    This is one of the most false arguements that is repeated over and over again. Kolb threw for 196 yards, had a 63.6% completion percentage, with 1 TD and 0 Ints, and drives of 85 yards (w/TD) 63 yards (w/FG) and with only 37 seconds on the clock led a 65 yards drive for a FG in the first half of the Eagles/Siants game. He threw for the same amount of yards in the first half (196) while the game was absolutely competative as he threw for in the second half (195). If anything the last few minutes of that game led to two of Kolbs three interceptions.
    I’m not declaring Kolb the next Joe Montana, but saying the 300 yards in the Siants game is due to the Eagles playing catch-up is just wrong.
    Oh and by the way, just like I am not assuming Kolb isn’t the next Montana, I know McNabb is a current day John Elway – looks like Washington is going to have to learn that lesson first hand.

  59. edgy1957 says: Apr 7, 2010 12:42 PM

    At one time the Houston Oilers thought it was time for a change and that 37 year old Warren Moon was getting too old so they turned the reins over to the “youngster” Cody Carlson and theuy went from 12-4 to 2-14 and the franchise floundered until they picked up McNair. The fans in Dallas wanted Gary Hogeboom because they were tired of Danny White not winning a Super Bowl and then they freaked when they realized how bad the team was sans White. They put White back in charge and they start winning but NOOOO, they gotta have the new guy, Steve “Happy Feet” Pelluer and they take a dip again and White’s back in charge but the franchise now on its downside so Pelluer ends up holding down the fort until Aikman arrives.
    Be careful what you wish for guys because it’s not always going to be what you had hoped for. Oh and the fans wanted Jimmy Johnson to trade Troy Aikman because he didn’t get the team’s only win his rookie season. Troy Aikman – HOF; Steve Walsh – not so much….

  60. texasPHINSfan says: Apr 7, 2010 12:46 PM

    i think it would have been more wise for desean to be more tactful.
    donovan is the qb who threw all those passes to desean and helped get him to the probowl. must be nice as a WR to waltz into the league and have pro-bowl QB’s throwing to you. i think desean is spoiled.
    desean should ask calvin johnson, louis murphy, joe jurivicious, chris chambers, and those guys how they feel

  61. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 1:01 PM

    DR – I said “you don’t get it”.
    Did you support letting Delhomme go? I mean, he got you to a SB…
    Ya see where I’m going?
    What you aren’t seeing, IMO, is that the Birds defense and OL is so bad they are 2 years away from competing for a title. No matter who is at QB.
    There was no basis on which to keep Donovan. We were not winning in 2010. FA told you that. Youth at every skill position told you that.
    There comes a time to start fresh, Eagles and Panthers believe they found their guys and are moving on. It happens.
    I think you, and other fans, see the Eagles as perennial contenders. And they were. But not anymore. We can’t beat a winning team unless they are missing their QB and RB. Don’t let the gaudy record fool you, we’re only capable of beating losing teams at this stage. So a change was needed.

  62. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 1:07 PM

    What was Moon’s W-L record in Minnesota?
    1994: 9-6
    1995: 8-8
    1996: 4-4
    Stats?
    1994: 4264 yds / 18 TDs / 19 INTs
    1995: 4228 yds / 33 TDs / 14 INTs
    1996: 1610 yds / 7 TDs / 9 INTs
    Yeah, that was worth it. Pretty stats mean nothing.
    At least the Oilers found out Carlson sucked, and rebuilt around McNair and George. They, unlike Moon, at least went to a SB.
    If you make decisions based on fear, you will always fail.

  63. Dallas6584 says: Apr 7, 2010 1:15 PM

    @nasheagle
    You are a complete moron your buzzards are going to be the worst in the NFC East this year. Remember my Cowboys and Romo whipped your ass three times last season including a shutout. Donovan McNabb has been a great quarterback for you guys and nobody appreciated him, you are the most classless fans of any team and any sport. You just wait until McNabb torches you guys both times this year I will be laughing my ass off. So sit back and drink your rolling rock and curse at everyone for no reason you have a horrible reputation to keep up I wouldnt want anyone to confuse you eagle fans for rational human beings. You should watch bowling and leave the NFL to intelligent fans who appreciate the hard work that the athletes give to entertain us. Get a clue!!

  64. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 1:28 PM

    Who drinks Rolling Rock?
    Are we in Scranton all of a sudden?

  65. wubanga101 says: Apr 7, 2010 1:41 PM

    @aaronh1028
    Whatever you say buddy, considering Landry bites on every single double move ever thrown his way, I’m sure he’ll catch Jackson! Jackson has burnt Landry every single game he has played against him. In fact he’s single handedly made the Redskins regret spending the 6th pick in the draft on him. That’s way the Skins offered Landry in the trade for McNabb but the Eagles said no thanks!

  66. wubanga101 says: Apr 7, 2010 1:46 PM

    @Dallas6584
    Congrats on ending the Eagles season just like the Eagles did the year before to the Cowboys in my more embarrassing fashion! You call yourself and intelligent fan??? You’re a Cowboys fan right?? I haven’t seen you write one intelligent statement yet so leave the intelligent football talk to the big boys and go get back on top of your sister.

  67. Jangocat says: Apr 7, 2010 1:59 PM

    Who can blame him? It gets old always having the ball thrown behind you, over your head, in the ground, basically anywhere but the numbers. McNabb was never suited well for the Eagles offense. You need accuracy in the west coast and McNabb never consistently had it. McNabb hasn’t been an elite QB for a good five years now. People need to stop pretending it’s still 2002. McNabb is a shadow of his former self. Brian Baldinger is the only guy honest enough to say it.
    People outside of Philly that haven’t watched him every week for the last 11 years have no clue. Both Garcia and Kolb have run the offense better then McNabb. Andy Reid’s no dummy, if he thinks they will do better with Kolb they will. He didn’t bench McNabb for nothing last year.

  68. DonDelusion says: Apr 7, 2010 2:07 PM

    Mooch is my new hero.
    PS @ Dallas6584 I was 5th in the county in HS bowling my junior year but I drink Labatt’s Blue mostly… and I got lats that make you feel gay.)

  69. buddha says: Apr 7, 2010 2:10 PM

    All of you guys that wanna say that McNabb would hit Desean “in stride” with his deep balls couldnt be more wrong. Go to YOUTUBE and watch Deseans TD vs the Giants when he did The Jerk. Look at his TD catches vs the Redskins. Yea, maybe SOME of his passes were in stride, but on MOST of them, Desean had to slow down and wait for the ball, even though he had his defenders beat by a few yards. And you haters can keep hating, cause Desean will most likely have another strong season. I honestly think Maclin will develope into the #1 WR and Desean will be lined up vs. the #2 CB. I see another 10+ TD season for Desean and an 8-10 TD season for Maclin! Oh yeah, theres this guy named Brent Celek too. He’s the best TE in the NFC! Witten is good, but he only had like 1 TD. I think Celek had like 8 in his first year as a starter and he put up HUGE #s when Kolb started those 2 games last season.

  70. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 2:33 PM

    Labatt’s is a fine, fine beer. Very under-rated.
    The correct answer would be “what is Yuengling”?

  71. edgy1957 says: Apr 7, 2010 2:44 PM

    jlbay says:
    This is one of the most false arguements that is repeated over and over again. Kolb threw for 196 yards, had a 63.6% completion percentage, with 1 TD and 0 Ints
    ************************
    Of course, if you break down the game, you’ll find that it’s a load of horse hockey that you’re trying to pawn off on everyone. 159 yards came in the 4th quarter after the game was out of hand and btw, his first pass of the second half allows them to go up 31-13. Also, he led a drive late in the 4th quarter when the Saints didn’t care and it died at the 4. Their only TD in the second half was set up by a 63 yard KO return. His game was a lot of empty calories, as was the game against the Chiefs.

  72. edgy1957 says: Apr 7, 2010 3:03 PM

    buddha says:
    I think Celek had like 8 in his first year as a starter and he put up HUGE #s when Kolb started those 2 games last season.
    ****************************
    Yeah, he gets 5 of his catches in the 4th quarter when the game is out of control and he scores – wait for it – NOTHING in that game and then he gets 8 against the Chiefs — WOO HOO – bronze that HOF statue. Look, Celek is a good TE but he had a damn good game against Denver when he had 121 yards and TD that’s more impressive than what he did early with Kolb.
    Oh and it took several years for Troy Aikman to be able to get it right with Alvin Harper. A lot of their early attempts at long plays were hurt by their lack of timing when Harper had to come back for his passes (and Troy did NOT have a noodle for an arm). A lot of their early “long” connections came when he hit Alvin short and he took it to the house (As the 49ers about that one).

  73. D.R.Universal says: Apr 7, 2010 3:05 PM

    @Mooch…i see ur point now..agreed
    and for the record, I HATED JAKE DELHOMME while he was here!!! had one good season and was treated like a king around here..bum! LOL
    and yes..Labatts is a DAMN FINE BEER!

  74. nittanylion0 says: Apr 7, 2010 3:07 PM

    the guy’s been with the team and the league for two years. the hell does he know about needing a change?

  75. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 3:56 PM

    Edgy…
    “Of course, if you break down the game, you’ll find that it’s a load of horse hockey…”
    Yet you are the same type of guy that throws the Chargers game at me, when they went into a prevent at halftime. Look at McNabb’s stats, he led a comeback (except he didn’t, and we lost).
    Let’s just be fair, OK? He’s the Boomer Esiason of his era. And that isn’t an insult, Boomer was a great QB.

  76. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 5:17 PM

    edgy…
    Westbrook
    Moon
    No rebuttal? Or did you know what you were writing was blatantly misleading?
    We’ll welcome you back into the fold, if you want in. I would guess you are the same age I was when Randall was let go. It hurts. But life goes on and you have to stay loyal. Better days ahead.
    And don’t get me started on cutting Iverson, I almost didn’t make it. But now I realize we should have done it sooner. I look at the 76ers now and see what delaying the inevitable brings.
    Hop on the team for the big win!

  77. edgy1957 says: Apr 7, 2010 5:56 PM

    Mooch says:
    April 7, 2010 3:56 PM
    Edgy…
    “Of course, if you break down the game, you’ll find that it’s a load of horse hockey…”
    Yet you are the same type of guy that throws the Chargers game at me, when they went into a prevent at halftime
    ******************************
    I want you to show me where *I* personally threw that game in your face. Oh that’s right, I didn’t address ANY messages to you about the subject except as a reply to your attempt to throw me in with other people. Next time, either show direct proof of what I’ve supposedly done to you or else keep quiet and stop speculating. If you want to speculate even more, I suggest that you open up an account with ScottTrade and see if you can do any better with the stock market than you can with predicting what I might or might not do.

  78. edgy1957 says: Apr 7, 2010 6:01 PM

    Mooch says:
    edgy…
    **********************
    I’m sorry. I guess I should be reading this message ONLY for 24 hours just so I can get back to you in the .00000000000000005 milliseconds after you post that you seem to require. There’s a whole internet out there, in case you haven’t figured that out and we use more than just this message to keep our attention. Putz.

  79. McNabb fan says: Apr 7, 2010 7:21 PM

    JACKSON WON’T MAKE IT THROUGH NEXT SEASON AND WILL PROBABLY HAVE A SHORT CAREER.HE GOT A CONCUSSION FROM A VERY ORDINARY HIT BY LONDON FLETCHER LAST YEAR.HE GOT A GROIN INJURY EARLIER IN THE LAST SEASON FROM AN EVEN LESS SPECTACULAR HIT.NOT TO MENTION A MILD CASE OF PLANTAR FASCITIST (TURF TOE).THE EAGLES WILL PAY FOR NOT GETTING BIGGER STRONGER RECEIVERS BECAUSE EVEN MACLIN GOT TURF TOE LAST YEAR AND MISSED GAMES.HE GOT HURT BY THE KICKER ON A PUNT RETURN.AMAZING.THEY’LL PAY.KOLB WILL MAKE INTERMEDIATE THROWS AND BY DEFAULT THEY’LL BE HIT EVEN MORE TIMES AND MUCH MORE HARDER THAN LAST YEAR.

  80. Bious says: Apr 7, 2010 7:49 PM

    Have fun with that fan base, Kevin
    One INT later and they will want your head

  81. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 8:25 PM

    Edgy,
    Brian Westbrook was a RB who played for the Eagles for many years. He was drafted out of Villanova (a Philadelphia area school), and replaced Duce Staley (who you probably cried over when he left).
    If there is any other Eagles 101 info you’d like to know, just ask!
    Fun fact: the team plays at “The Linc” and wears green.
    As for not defending your BS points, I’ll take it that you either didn’t know what you were talking about, or were hoping real Eagles fans did not call you out. Either way, your posts were silly. And indefensible, which is why you chose to go the victim route and cry about being challenged.
    Now go get your Redskins can coozy. Please.
    Your are a walking violation.

  82. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 8:35 PM

    McNabb fan…keep telling yourself that. And maybe buy a ticket to a Skins game, stadium is half empty ever game I’ve seen for 4 years. Kind of embarrassing, really.
    I will take your comment under advisement and sign Reggie Rembert ASAP. Thanks!!

  83. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 8:42 PM

    “One INT later and they will want your head”
    If he does it consistently for over decade, we may even send him to the NFL Land of Misfit Toys…Washington!
    Haynesworth. Wilkinson. Gilbert Brown. Jason Taylor. Deoin Sanders. McNabb.
    And after each of these signings, you said it was gonna put you over the top. How’s that workin’ out?
    Funny, I hadn’t seen or heard a Redskin fan since the late 90′s before this move. Now you’re all out, feelin’ strong. You guys are funny.
    Giants will come back, Dallas is on the come. Redskins? Please. It’s a joke franchise. Much like the Generals.

  84. edgy1957 says: Apr 7, 2010 9:50 PM

    Mooch says:
    Brian Westbrook was a RB who played for the Eagles for many years. He
    ************************
    Your point being? Did I ever say anything negative about Westbrook or even mention Westbrook. This is like your non-existent conversation with me about McNabb’s game against San Diego.
    BS points. Are you so stupid as to actually believe that his game against the Saints was anything more than a bunch of bullshit or what? My God, you moron, Jason Garrett set the Dallas record for most passing yards on Thanskgiving and guess what, Dallas wasn’t so stupid as to trade away Aikman to give him the job. Steve Walsh won the only game for the Cowboys and the moron fans wanted him to stay and for the team to get rid of Aikman and Jimmy Johnson showed them how much they knew by trading away Walsh.
    The NFL is littered with QBs that the fans felt were better than the guy that they hated because he didn’t do as well as they had hoped and then found out that the replacements weren’t even close to being the same kind of QB. Warren Moon -> Cody Carlson, Danny White -> Gary Hogeboom, Danny White -> Steve Pelluer and on and on and on and on. A good game here, a preseason win there and the fans are up in arms. Donovan McNabb is the leader – but a long shot – in wins for the Eagles and yet, you boobs seem to revere guys like Jaws, who didn’t do as well. If he produces anything close to what he did in Philly, he’s going to be worshiped in Washington and that’s just sad.

  85. Floriosadouchebag says: Apr 7, 2010 10:11 PM

    Hey DeSean, no more long TD passes like last year. You and the rest of the front running Philly fans, like Lowell Rikert better get use to last place.

  86. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 11:22 PM

    Edgy, let’s keep it real OK?
    Do you consider the Moon signing a success by the Vikings? Yes or no? If “yes”, we’re done. I could care less about stats, I want wins and titles.
    You didn’t look at the W-L of Moon, did you? You just thought that was a great example because Moon was a ‘name’ guy. And he put up stats. And there is a good chance that will happen with McNabb, as the Redskins OL sucks bad.
    I can’t abide that Moon comparison, because I took the time to look up the stats. I didn’t operate on emotion, as many McNabb supporters did (and I did when Cunningham and Iverson were dealt). His stats, come 2012, are Boomer Esiason’s. Look it up. He’ll be slightly below Drew Bledsoe. Look it up. Both are great QB’s, it’s not a light – as is McNabb. But don’t get carried away. Fair?
    As for McNabb v Kolb, I have not met an Eagle fan who thinks this is an upgrade in the short term. Not one. And I do not. But it doesn’t matter – the long term considerations argued for the move.
    If you think we “hate” McNabb, you ignore the football and business realities. This is the way it goes.
    If the defense and OL even graded out at a B- most of us would welcome McNabb back. But the team is 2 years from competing.
    McNabb, for all his talents, could not take this team to 10 wins. The front office turned every other position over and did nothing in FA. He’d get us 9. If Kolb can get us 7, then that is all the same to us. It’s a throwaway rebuilding year.
    The team was going nowhere in 2010 no matter who was at QB. We chose to stockpile picks and save cash for an uncapped 2011. If anything, they did McNabb a favor by moving him.
    And I apologize, as I confused you with eagleslover with the Westbrook issue. At least you have balls and come back and press your point. I just think you have an inflated view of what the Eagles supporting cast – specifically D and OL – look like now. It’s bad. We are rebuilding.
    Even McNabb could not lead this team, with the current talent level, to a meaningful playoff run.
    And I’d say 80% of Eagles fans are prepared for this roll of the dice. It may end up good or bad, but the fact was the McNabb era was at an end.

  87. Mooch says: Apr 7, 2010 11:27 PM

    “My God, you moron, Jason Garrett set the Dallas record for most passing yards on Thanskgiving and guess what, Dallas wasn’t so stupid as to trade away Aikman to give him the job. Steve Walsh won the only game for the Cowboys and the moron fans wanted him to stay and for the team to get rid of Aikman and Jimmy Johnson showed them how much they knew by trading away Walsh.”
    Uh, well…of course Dallas fans are morons.
    How’s that for consensus?

  88. Mooch says: Apr 8, 2010 12:00 AM

    Who “reveres” Jaws? Now that we’ve established, I hope, a respectable dialogue – can I ask where you get this statement?
    If I ask 100 random people on 3rd and Market St, 60% won’t know who Jaws is. Another 20% will say he’s a radio pitchman. 20% will say he was an Eagles QB, and few of those would place him over McNabb. Among fans under 30, virtually none would have any idea of who Jaws is.
    This amazes me, really.
    You’d have more of a case arguing Cunningham was more revered. While untrue, at least a case could be made that Randall was more exciting – among fans aged 35-45. Aside from that, not much. Few would argue he’s “better”.
    Seriously, who told you people in Philly revere Jaws? That’s coming out of left field. I live in Philly – born and raised. I see #5 jerseys all the time, a handful of #12′s. Never seen a #7 in decades.
    McNabb is, without question, viewed by fans as the most accomplished and best QB of our lifetime…but all things must end a new era begun.
    Seriously, Jaws is SO out there.

  89. eaglelover1 says: Apr 8, 2010 12:59 AM

    @ mooch Westbrrok also led the team in receptions so is he a WR or a RB? But yes you were right that’s one RB in 2 years that went over 1100 yards. Those are also the years that Mcnabb went down and he ran more often to hide the weakness of the noodle arms he had at QB right?
    As for being an Eagles fan…. Been an Eagles fan since you were in diapers. So keep the insults to yourself (we get kind of forgetful at this age) Besides anybody can look it up on Footballreference.com.
    And yes you are a Mcnabb hater what I don’t understand is why? According to your business description a team should drop all of it’s talent in order to lose a few seasons to see what they have on the roster?
    Let’s take a look at what REAL teams have done and kept winning….
    GB with Favre made the playoff 69% of the time while continously retooling skill positions Favre 1-1 in SB and 2-4 in Conference championship games.
    Denver with Elway made the playoffs 62% of the time again while retolling with younger talent at the skill positons
    Both those teams kept the franchise QB 16 years.
    While Carson Palmer while playing with top teir WR for his 6 years in the League has only made the post season 33% of the time.
    Kurt Warner even with HOF talent at WR has only made the postseason again 33%
    Mcnabb has gone postseason 70% of the time only 3 QB have a better postseason % than Mcnabb. Manning, Brady and Rivers. The 3 season the Eagles did not make the playoffs are Mcnabb injury seasons.
    A teams business is to put forth a WINNING team by ALL means. This where they win fans who buy tickets and merchandise. Too many fans in Philly will drop of once this team goes 5-11, 6-10 too many times. Which in turn the team will lose REVENUE.
    And trust me son, I know football and the Eagles are wrong on this one it will come back to bite them.

  90. edgy1957 says: Apr 8, 2010 1:24 AM

    Mooch says:
    Do you consider the Moon signing a success by the Vikings? Yes or no? If “yes”, we’re done. I could care less about stats, I want wins and titles
    ********************************
    Are you just stupid or what? This has NOTHING to do with Moon going to Minnesota but that Moon was pushed aside to make room for Carlson. Why don’t you sober up and read what I wrote instead of trying to read the blurred images that you apparently see now.
    Oh, BTW, you boob, Warren Moon has 5 Grey Cups to his name. It may not be Super Bowls but the guy did win. As to his W-L record, his first three years in the NFL were hurt because they hired his CFL coach for the Oilers and he couldn’t adjust to the NFL and then Jerry Glanville had to clean up his mess. Moon was 102-101-1 with those first three years killing him (12-33-0 for his first three years and 90-68- 1 for the rest of his career). He’s also the only PLAYER to be named to the NFL and CFL HOF (Bud Grant’s there as a player/coach (CFL) and coach (NFL).
    As for the Eagles and their current players – what in the hell are you talking about? I haven’t talked about them, either so you must be talking about yet another person. You need to go through your messages and find that right person to go after because it isn’t me.

  91. edgy1957 says: Apr 8, 2010 1:25 AM

    Mooch says:
    Uh, well…of course Dallas fans are morons
    ***************************************
    The same thing can be said of the Eagles fans.

  92. edgy1957 says: Apr 8, 2010 1:35 AM

    BTW, compared to McNabb, Jaws Is revered in the town.

  93. Mooch says: Apr 8, 2010 9:29 AM

    Edgy, you just know nothing about football and continue to backtrack on comments you made while fabricating other stuff.
    Moon sucked. He was all done. That is the point. Same with McNabb, he can’t win anymore, so who cares what his stats are? Look at his record vs winning teams over 2 years!
    Who cares about Grey Cups? Are you a total loser? Why not go on the Scandinavian putt putt circuit and win titles there. Unreal. Redefine “success” to prop up a guy who never got it done.
    You made up the “revere Jaws” thing. That just shows you have no clue. At all. You just made that up because you have no central argument or point.
    Find more dumb examples – just be sure to look at the actual numbers before you do so. You need to learn about the actual events, instead of your emotional take on them.

  94. Mooch says: Apr 8, 2010 9:31 AM

    Do you live here? That is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard. Ignorance. Pure ignorance.
    No one under 35 years of age knows who Jaws is. No one.

  95. Mooch says: Apr 8, 2010 9:55 AM

    Eagleslover…
    Westborok also led the team in receptions so is he a WR or a RB?
    A RB. He had tons of rushing yards. Like Faulk, he also could catch. To great effect. He was arguably a Top-5 weapon in the NFL over a span of years. So much for the “no weapons” argument. And Westbrook at that time was 100% better than anything the Skins have now. So prepare for more excuses.
    “But yes you were right that’s one RB in 2 years that went over 1100 yards. Those are also the years that Mcnabb went down and he ran more often to hide the weakness of the noodle arms he had at QB right?”
    He missed 2 games in 2007, and over those 2 Westbrook went for 140 total – below his average. So much for that excuse.
    “As for being an Eagles fan…. Been an Eagles fan since you were in diapers. …Besides anybody can look it up on Footballreference.com.”
    Nope, I knew the Westbrook stats, as does every fan I know. Every one of them knows Westbrook cracked 1,200 twice. It was memorable for anyone paying attention. And yes, anyone can look up stats – except you for instance. You don’t know basic facts about the team, so spare me the Super Fan nonsense.
    So much for the “no running attack” excuse.
    “According to your business description a team should drop all of it’s talent in order to lose a few seasons to see what they have on the roster?”
    Nope, but when a team has ALREADY dropped all the talent on their roster (over the course of 2 years we’ve revamped the OL, WR, RB, TE), I just think it makes sense to trade the most marketable commodity that won’t help it win.
    When you turn over the whole offense, why hold onto an old QB for one more year? By the time all the young players gel, and you fix the D, he’ll be gone anyone. And you only hurt yourself by not getting a pick that helps you rebuild.
    But you seem to prefer the Redskin “patch and paste with overpaid vets” strategy. How has that worked out?
    “GB with Favre made the playoff 69% of the time while continously retooling skill positions Favre 1-1 in SB and 2-4 in Conference championship games.”
    McNabb is no Favre. Favre has a ring and wins big games.
    “Denver with Elway made the playoffs 62% of the time again while retolling with younger talent at the skill positons.”
    McNabb is no Elway. Elway has a ring and wins big games.
    “While Carson Palmer while playing with top teir WR for his 6 years in the League has only made the post season 33% of the time.”
    Palmer stinks. Perhaps they should trade him to a team desperate for an old QB with no big wins or titles.
    “Kurt Warner even with HOF talent at WR has only made the postseason again 33%”
    Won a SB. Got to three overall. No comparison. And he did not start for a few years in the middle anyway.
    “Mcnabb has gone postseason 70% of the time…”
    NFC East was the weakest division for his tenure. Amazing he could go this often with “no weapons” and a bad coach and no RB (Oh, I forgot about Westbrook!!).
    “…only 3 QB have a better postseason % than Mcnabb. Manning, Brady and Rivers. The 3 season the Eagles did not make the playoffs are Mcnabb injury seasons.”
    So, McNabb is better than Brees and Ben? Really? You would expect to be able to trade McNabb straight up for them? Are you sure? Do you need to go to football reference?
    “A teams business is to put forth a WINNING team by ALL means. ”
    And in that process there are long-term and short-term considerations. The team is so bad right now that winning a SB next year is not gonna happen. And McNabb was gone after this year as his contract was done. So how did keeping McNabb accomplish either long-term (rebuild) or short-term (SB) goals?
    “This where they win fans who buy tickets and merchandise. Too many fans in Philly will drop of once this team goes 5-11, 6-10 too many times. Which in turn the team will lose REVENUE.”
    You know they share revenue in the NFL, right? Or do you need to go on football reference and learn about that? TV and merchandise revenue is shared. That is why there is a level playing field, unlike MLB.
    You are spoiled. You expect 10 wins every year. Not possible. He was given a decade, didn’t get it done. Time to move on. Or should Randall still be playing QB?
    There is NO evidence that people will stop buying tix. Look at the waiting list for season tix. When is the last time there was a blackout? You just made this up. Sadly, revenue is not tied to W-L. The fans are too loyal.
    “And trust me son, I know football and the Eagles are wrong on this one it will come back to bite them.”
    Worse than going 8-8 with McNabb next season (because the D can’t stop anyone) and letting him walk for nothing? Worse than that? Not likely.

  96. edgy1957 says: Apr 8, 2010 10:55 AM

    Mooch says:
    Moon sucked. He was all done. That is the point.
    *************************
    Conversation over. You’ve pretty much shown how little you know about football when you talk about a guy who went to the Pro Bowl at age 38, 39 and 41 as a guy who sucked. Yeah, he sucked so badly tht the Oilers went from 12-4 to 2-14. he sucked so badly that the Vikings still went to the playoffs with him. Have fun with your delusions.

  97. Mooch says: Apr 8, 2010 12:02 PM

    All done. Threw the ball around and never won.
    This isn’t fantasy football.
    Repeat.
    This isn’t fantasy football.
    Do you understand now?
    He went 9-6 as a starter. Teams were running to Minnesota to play that fraud team in the playoffs. It was a joke. He got beat by Steve Flippin Walsh.
    Who went to a Super Bowl? The Vikings with Moon or Oilers with McNair?
    You judge success by #’s, I judge it by titles. Key difference I guess.
    LONG-term. I guarantee no one in Minnesota cares that Moon put up pretty numbers. That is why they kicked him to the curb in favor of Brad Johnson. C’mon, now.

  98. Mooch says: Apr 8, 2010 12:28 PM

    So, the Vikes were as good as Houston when he went there. Yup, totally.
    Greatness is about making a good team a champion. Not making a mediocre team a one-and-done playoff team.
    That is what McNabb and Moon are. Guys like Brady make a decent team a champion.
    But Brady didn’t win any Grey Cups, so I guess he’s not on your radar.

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