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Eagles, Garcia have spoken "numerous times"

jeff-garcia.jpgWith talk increasing that veteran quarterback Jeff Garcia may return to the Eagles, FOX 29 in Philly reports that there has been plenty of talk between Garcia and the Eagles regarding a third stint.

Per the report, Garcia and the Eagles has spoken “numerous times” this offseason, including a recent one-hour conversation.

Garcia, 40, joined the NFL in 1999 after starting his pro football career in the CFL.  He inherited the starting job with the 49ers after Steve Young was knocked out during a Monday night game against the Cardinals.  Garcia held the job through 2003.

He struggled during one-year stays with the Browns and the Lions.  In 2005, Garcia took over late in the season after Donovan McNabb was lost due to injury, propelling an unlikely playoff run — and sparking the first talk in Philly that it may be time for a change.

Garcia then had two solid years in Tampa.  In 2009, he signed with the Raiders and requested his release before the start of the regular season.  The Eagles added him as an in-season insurance policy after McNabb broke a rib in Week One.

In 2010, he’d provide a savvy veteran presence behind Kevin Kolb, bringing extensive knowledge of and experience with the West Coast offense.

It’s unclear whether he’d be the primary backup to Kolb.  On game days, Mike Vick will likely be the other active quarterback, given his ability to run the Wildcat offense.  It’s possible that, like Kolb in 2009, Garcia would be the emergency quarterback when Kolb starts, but the guy who would take over in the event of an injury that prevents the starter from starting.

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31 Responses to “Eagles, Garcia have spoken "numerous times"”
  1. mrlelli says: Apr 11, 2010 7:41 AM

    Don’t fool yourself…Birds are still trying to trade Vick. Prob on draft day for a 2011 conditional pick.

  2. Hank_SJ says: Apr 11, 2010 8:16 AM

    Garcia would be a nice insurance policy as the #2. Eagles need to scrap the Vick as Wildcat experiment, dump him and move on.

  3. thefootballrulah says: Apr 11, 2010 8:36 AM

    I’m starting an Eagles QB rumor site….and then I’m going to sell it to NBC and be a very “RICH”man….hahaaha…….or could it really work hmmmmmm?

  4. eaglemafia says: Apr 11, 2010 8:40 AM

    This would be a good move. I would rather have garcia helping kolb through tough games, you know as a mentor/teacher on the sidelines and not Vick. I agree with *mrlelli*. If they are not trying to, I really think they should trade vick for a 2011 pick.

  5. Mooch says: Apr 11, 2010 8:55 AM

    I would trade Vick for an 11th round pick.
    An, yes, I know.

  6. riggo44 says: Apr 11, 2010 9:14 AM

    They would be better off with Jerry Garcia

  7. Catamount says: Apr 11, 2010 9:55 AM

    Garcia has a huge ego. He had success in Philly and knows Reid knows that. He is not trying to come in as a backup, he is coming in as a vulture, waiting for his opportunity to take over the show. That would not be healthy for the Eagles. At this point in his career, he needs to assume the role of the player-coach, and work to develop Kolb. He will not do that.

  8. scrapdawg12 says: Apr 11, 2010 10:15 AM

    Trade Kolb away, he’s garbage. Let Vick run the offense for a year and if he struggles, let Garcia play. The team would definitely win more games with Vick and Garcia rather than Kolb and Garcia. Remember the Baltimore Raven game Kolb played in? It was a close game at halftime when Mcnabb got pulled and Kolb came in and STANK the place up. Also, remember the Saints game? Kolb throwing 3 picks. When is the last game Mcnabb threw 3 picks? Everyone wanted Mcnabb gone but on the other side, now we got garbage at the most important position in the league.

  9. toolegitt says: Apr 11, 2010 10:21 AM

    Hey Mike, check your facts. Jeff Garcia was not on this team in 2005. that was the year of the TO debacle, remember. Jeff came the following year, 2006, and took us on an incredible run to the playoffs where we narrowly lost to the Saints. I’m just saying…

  10. BleedGreenMtState says: Apr 11, 2010 10:57 AM

    1st – bring in Bulger and Garcia to see which one looks better and sign whichever one that day.
    2nd – My guess is they’ll trade Vick to move up in a round. Its not likely any one is going to give up a pick for Vick in 2011 or 2021. But a team like the Rams may swap 4th round picks with the Eagles to get him or the Raiders may swap 3rd round picks. that just seems more likely to me. With the draft being so deep I could easily see the Eagles trading Vick and the 87th pick to the Raiders for the 69th pick.
    3rd – Fire Andy Reid or at least let that chicken that picks the Super Bowl winners take over the play calling duties. The Chicken will be way better.

  11. geo1113 says: Apr 11, 2010 11:11 AM

    Since you asked, scrapdawg, McNabb threw 3 INTs vs Cincinnati in the 13-13 tie in 2008. Doesn’t make Kolb’s 3 INTS against the eventual Super Bowl winner look so bad!

  12. philcommander says: Apr 11, 2010 11:46 AM

    Great move. Kolb starts, Vick backup, Garcia in case of emergency and for advice to Kolb.
    Kolb will lead the Eagles to the superbowl this year as long as changes are made to the defense.

  13. Skip Toomilu says: Apr 11, 2010 12:07 PM

    Jeff Garcia?!! He’s so,…uh, “well experienced”, yea, that’s what we need~! I be t the “young group of receivers” will just LOVE him (hee-hee.)
    Poor Philly, enjoy the baseball season while it lasts.
    Didn’t know what they had and let it fly away and land in D.C.

  14. BleedGreenMtState says: Apr 11, 2010 12:13 PM

    @scrapdawg – What do you think of Reid as a talent evaluator? Does he draft well?
    It seems most people consider Reid’s strongest attribute to be his ability to recognize good talent when he sees it.

  15. BlondBlueDevils says: Apr 11, 2010 12:43 PM

    Some point to Kolb’s impressive statistics in his two N.F.L. starts, in which he passed for a combined 718 yards. Andy Barall, who writes about pro football history for The Fifth Down, analyzed one of those games and was not impressed. His comment from a previous post is worth breaking out here:
    The two late interceptions Kevin Kolb threw against the Saints last year were, indeed, irrelevant to the outcome of the game, but so were more than half of his completions.
    Kolb finished the day 31-51 for 391 yards with two touchdowns and three interceptions. He went 16-25 for 191 yards after the Eagles trailed 34-13 with 4:14 left in the third quarter. All of those competions, except one, were out of the shotgun. On many, the Eagles were in no huddle, from the middle of the fourth quarter forward. Most were against the Saints 4-2-5 Nickel with their corners playing off in outside leverage to funnel the receivers inside. Six of the attempts were check-downs to his backs, Brian Westbrook and LeSean McCoy. The Saints were exchanging yardage for time.
    The last two interceptions Kolb threw were not game-changers, but the first one certainly was. The Saints had just scored a touchdown to make it 24-13 early in the third quarter. On the ensuing drive the Eagles had a second and six from their own 24. In his pre-snap read Kolb saw the corner playing off and tried to hit DeSean Jackson in front of him on a hitch route along the sideline off a three-step drop. He was so locked in on Jackson, however, that he didn’t see linebacker Scott Shanle come off the slot receiver, Brent Celek, and drop to the flat zone. Shanle undercut the route, intercepted the pass, and stepped out of bounds on the Eagles 24. Just four plays later, the Saints scored again on a seven yard run by Mike Bell to put the hammer down.
    Kolb showed the same tunnel vision in the next interception, late in the fourth quarter. After the Saints allowed some easy completions, the Eagles had a third and five from the New Orleans 11. As the Saints blitzed both linebackers into the B gaps, Kolb never took his eyes off Celek down the seam. He didn’t even attempt to look off the safety, Darren Sharper, who read Kolb’s eyes, jumped the route, stepped in front of Celek, and easily intercepted the pass.
    Making glowing predictions about Kolb’s future is perfectly defensible if it’s based on evidence that’s both relevant and probative. Inflated statistics in extremely limited playing time don’t qualify as either.
    Kevin Kolb has a long way to go.

  16. BlondBlueDevils says: Apr 11, 2010 12:45 PM

    scrapdawg12 says:
    April 11, 2010 10:15 AM
    Trade Kolb away, he’s garbage. Let Vick run the offense for a year and if he struggles, let Garcia play. The team would definitely win more games with Vick and Garcia rather than Kolb and Garcia. Remember the Baltimore Raven game Kolb played in? It was a close game at halftime when Mcnabb got pulled and Kolb came in and STANK the place up. Also, remember the Saints game? Kolb throwing 3 picks. When is the last game Mcnabb threw 3 picks? Everyone wanted Mcnabb gone but on the other side, now we got garbage at the most important position in the league.
    —————————————
    McNabb ranks 2nd in NFL HISTORY for the lowest interception rate.

  17. VoxVagina says: Apr 11, 2010 12:47 PM

    I’d rather have Marc Bulger

  18. BlondBlueDevils says: Apr 11, 2010 12:49 PM

    Kevin Kolb is the same as Matt “Choke” Ryan…………….
    – All hype
    – Weak arm
    – Choke under pressure
    He’s just another “Hopeless”…. “Great Hope”.

  19. edgy1957 says: Apr 11, 2010 1:17 PM

    This would be the perfect capper for the trade. Garcia comes in, Kolb struggles and then Garcia lobbies to be put in to help turn the team around and they end up with a split locker.

  20. BleedGreenMtState says: Apr 11, 2010 1:57 PM

    @BlondBlueDevils
    You posted exactly the same non-sense on another Kold diary. We get it, you don’t like Kolb. Now post something original and stop taking that pay check from Vick.
    I’d also point out that Andy Reid and others ARE NOT making this decision on those two games which is all that really matters. They are the ones deciding not us and they have 100s of practices to evaluate not just two games. So make a freaking argument why Reid should make a different decision opposed to why the fans and pundits are wrong or beat it!

  21. geo1113 says: Apr 11, 2010 1:59 PM

    BlondBlueDevil, Andy Barall didn’t write the piece. It was Toni Monkovic. Also, you left the lead to the article out.
    “Repeat: Kolb can play. McNabb would still be here if the Eagles didn’t believe that to be true.”
    – Rich Hoffman, The Philadelphia Daily News, in a recent column
    And even Ray Didinger (if you want to speak about football historians) said for as great as McNabb was it was time for him to go and time to see whether Kolb could bring the Eagles to the promised land.
    So to you Eagles fans, are you going to write off Kolb before he even has his chance or are you going to jump on the first opportunity to boo him?

  22. edgy1957 says: Apr 11, 2010 2:01 PM

    geo1113 says:
    Since you asked, scrapdawg, McNabb threw 3 INTs vs Cincinnati in the 13-13 tie in 2008. Doesn’t make Kolb’s 3 INTS against the eventual Super Bowl winner look so bad!
    *****************************
    It took 40 games for McNabb to throw 3 but only 6 for Kolb. McNabb had 1 pick returned for a TD in his first 7 ints while Kolb has had 3 returned for TDs in his first 7. It took over 200 passes for McNabb to throw 7 picks, Kolb, not so much (less than 100). McNabb has throw 3 INTs 3 times in his career, I suspect that Kolb will exceed that in far fewer games.

  23. geo1113 says: Apr 11, 2010 2:24 PM

    That’s right, edgy, and Tom Brady threw 4 INTs in his 7th game and 7 games with 3 or more INTs. Guess that makes McNabb the better QB!

  24. doubldipp says: Apr 11, 2010 2:29 PM

    the Eagles had Mcnabb and Vick and Kolb in the beginning, and now if Kolb gets hurt you mean to tell me maybe Jeff Garcia! are you for real! If that happens in the season somebody should be fired.

  25. BlondBlueDevils says: Apr 11, 2010 2:36 PM

    BleedGreenMtState says:
    April 11, 2010 1:57 PM
    @BlondBlueDevils
    You posted exactly the same non-sense on another Kold diary. We get it, you don’t like Kolb. Now post something original and stop taking that pay check from Vick.
    I’d also point out that Andy Reid and others ARE NOT making this decision on those two games which is all that really matters. They are the ones deciding not us and they have 100s of practices to evaluate not just two games. So make a freaking argument why Reid should make a different decision opposed to why the fans and pundits are wrong or beat it!
    —————————
    Don’t shoot the messenger…………..
    I can’t help that he sucks and is another “Great Hope” that failed…………
    HA HA HA
    That article was not written by me, I just forwarded it…………..
    HA HA HA

  26. edgy1957 says: Apr 11, 2010 2:57 PM

    geo1113 says:
    That’s right, edgy, and Tom Brady threw 4 INTs in his 7th game and 7 games with 3 or more INTs. Guess that makes McNabb the better QB!
    ***************************************
    Brady did it in 129 games. At the current pace, Kolb is going to do it in 21- WOO HOO; let’s get that HOF bust ready.
    Having watched all three at the early parts of their career, you’d have to be a moron to even compare Kolb favorably to the other two. It’s no contest, he’s not even in the same category (Like McNabb, Brady had 1 pick returned for a TD in his first 7 and it took nearly 250 atts to reach 7). Over their careers, McNabb has thrown a pick in 52.1% of the games that he’s thrown a pass, Brady has thrown one in 48.8% and Kolb has thrown one in 66.7%. For your sake, I would hope that the number drops but he could end up going much higher like Cutler and you don’t want a QB that’s going to stay in that territory for long.

  27. edgy1957 says: Apr 11, 2010 3:02 PM

    Mea Culpa. I should have said 57.1% for Kolb.

  28. geo1113 says: Apr 11, 2010 3:16 PM

    Right, edgy and Kolb may not have any 3 INT games in the next 4 years. Who knows. But, edgy, tell me (and assuming you are an Eagles fan), do you want Kolb to fail or succeed?

  29. Jangocat says: Apr 11, 2010 3:28 PM

    No surprise. Garcia has been proven to be able to run the Eagles offense very well. He ran it as well or better then McNabb. He opened up Reids eyes to the fact that McNabbs inaccuracy was killing them. Vick would do even worse and is good as gone provided the Eagles can find someone who wants him. They’ve been trying to trade him but haven’t found anyone interested.

  30. edgy1957 says: Apr 11, 2010 4:06 PM

    geo1113 says:
    Right, edgy and Kolb may not have any 3 INT games in the next 4 years. Who knows. But, edgy, tell me (and assuming you are an Eagles fan), do you want Kolb to fail or succeed?
    ***************************
    Me, I want Kolb to be just where he is right now. I’d rather face him than McNabb.
    Oh and he WILL have plenty of those games in his future. You guys excuse his game against Baltimore because he went in “cold” and yet, no one is making that same excuse for the game against St. Louis, when he went in cold and he was 5 of 6 with no picks and then later in the season in game that he’s supposed to run out the clock, he throws a pick that’s run back for Cleveland’s only TD. You guys make more excuses for him than any QB that I’ve ever seen. Tom Brady went in cold against Buffalo and was 5 of 10 with NO PICKS.

  31. Route36West says: Apr 11, 2010 4:26 PM

    Hank_SJ says:
    April 11, 2010 8:16 AM
    Garcia would be a nice insurance policy as the #2. Eagles need to scrap the Vick as Wildcat experiment, dump him and move on.
    I dont see why the Eagles should scrap the Vick wildcat formation if they dont trade him. Yes it wasnt as effective as we hoped it would be but it still got the job done. There were times last season that the offense was sputtering in the redzone or 3rd done and then Vick came it and got the job done.
    If he adds another 3 tds and a bunch of 1st downs its fine by me.

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