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Great America not amused by proposed 49ers stadium

As the folks in Santa Clara prepare to vote in June on whether public dollars will be contributed to the construction of a new stadium for the 49ers, the Niners’ possible neighbors are trying to block the whole thing.

According to the Associated Press (see how easy it is, guys, to give fair credit to other news organizations?), the owners of Great American amusement park have sued both Santa Clara and the 49ers regarding the proposed stadium.  Cedar Fair Entertainment specifically claims that the environmental review process was not adequate.

Per the San Jose Business Journal, the suit claims that the environmental impact report failed to consider potential traffic problems, an issue of genuine concern, given that Great America customers may opt to stay away from the park when the 49ers play.

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39 Responses to “Great America not amused by proposed 49ers stadium”
  1. raiders177 says: Apr 13, 2010 1:46 PM

    Traffic in that area already sucks to begin with and the public transportation in the San Jose area blows.

  2. exilej says: Apr 13, 2010 1:47 PM

    Could someone please invade California and bring it back to the United States? Apparently there is absolutely nothing that can be accomplished there currently without a “doomed to fail” environmental study.

  3. endzoneview says: Apr 13, 2010 1:48 PM

    According to Mike Florio of profootballtalk.com, Leon Washington may or may not be part of the Santonio Holmes trade, allegedly.

  4. City_Native says: Apr 13, 2010 1:57 PM

    With the Raiders being the lauingstock of the league . . . and having no plans for a new stadium themselves. Lets see how how many Raiders fans post about this message. I set the over / under at 6.5. I’ll take the over.
    The Raiders have always had an inferiority complex about their lack of status in NorCal.

  5. heartstl says: Apr 13, 2010 2:04 PM

    LA 49ers

  6. kevinmack says: Apr 13, 2010 2:05 PM

    NotSO-Great America Sucks! And the Niners coming there will help them stay successful!
    Parents go to the football game, drop the kids off at GA. Meet up 6 hours later.
    Win Win!
    Also with all the proposed public transportation this will improve the area. And Traffic wont be that much of an issue.

  7. Dogsweat says: Apr 13, 2010 2:06 PM

    Viva Los Angeles!!!

  8. mjk68 says: Apr 13, 2010 2:10 PM

    Keep the 49ers in SF. Nobody wants their team to be called the San Francisco 49ers of Santa Clara, that sounds terrible.

  9. sergep says: Apr 13, 2010 2:10 PM

    maybe they can finally win atleast 50% of their games before giving them a stadium? I mean you dont give your employees an office if their grade is 50% do you?

  10. ND_Niner says: Apr 13, 2010 2:11 PM

    It will be overly-busy for 10 days a year…. more busy days than the Great American amusement park has ever enjoyed! i say niners sue them for hinting that somehow ppl would want to go to the Park and there would be nowhere to park

  11. allforfunnplay says: Apr 13, 2010 2:13 PM

    It was reported a year or two ago that Great America wanted the 49ers to buy them as part of the stadium deal. The 49ers declinded; so I guess Great America is sticking it to the Niners to get some sort of concession from them.
    Bah, I hope the whole Santa Clara thing fails and that they stay in San Francisco where they belong. I mean who really wants to go to the suburbs? And as someone already mentioned there’s not much mass transit there. (though Candlestick’s MUNI mass transit option goes through the dangerous ghetto Hunter’s Point). I’m not sure if at this point the Lennar Hunter’s Point propossed project is feasible. Eh, just bring em back to Kezar Stadium. It would be the biggest parking fiasco ever, but at least I could watch games from my roof.

  12. NoHomeTeam says: Apr 13, 2010 2:20 PM

    exilej says: “Could someone please invade California and bring it back to the United States? Apparently there is absolutely nothing that can be accomplished there currently without a “doomed to fail” environmental study.’
    While I certainly agree with you that we are — with the possible exception of New York — the most over-legislated state in the Union, I have to side with Great America here. They are an existing business whose bottom line stands to harmed by the establishment of a new business.
    If I owned, say, a restaurant, and the city where it was located sidestepped regulations to clear a legal path for a potentially lucrative landfill next door, I would certainly use any means I could to block them — including an EIR. It’s a hyperbolic example, I know, but the same principle is in play.

  13. Marvin49 says: Apr 13, 2010 2:20 PM

    LOL…you guys are funny. ;-)
    This is really a NON-issue.
    Whats really happening is that Great America is losing money and Cedar Fair wants the Niners or the NFL to purchase the park.
    There is no merit to the lawsuit and judges have already dismissed a similar case last year.
    The sole intent of the lawsuit is to be a thorn in the side of the project to force a sale of the park so that Cedar Fair can unload it.
    BTW…it WILL NOT be the Sanfrancisco 49ers of Santa Clara just like it isn’t the Dallas Cowboys of Arlington or the NewYork Giants/Jets of New Jersey.
    Get over it.

  14. rhymenosaurus says: Apr 13, 2010 2:21 PM

    I can’t see how this would affect *that* many business days of an amusement park. You’re talking 8 days a year, most of which would fall during Great America’s off-peak season.

  15. DcNinerFan says: Apr 13, 2010 2:23 PM

    Reason # 392 I won’t move back to California. The Liberal Environmental wackjobs that still believe in Man Made Global Climate Warming Change Cooling (or whatever they want to call it these days), despite the lack of facts or evidence.

  16. BigBear123 says: Apr 13, 2010 2:25 PM

    Don’t build a new stadium when the state writes IOU’s to pay bills.

  17. Daunte Culpepper says: Apr 13, 2010 2:28 PM

    Something tells me that Kevin Mack isn’t a parent.
    I mean…roll on.

  18. Marvin49 says: Apr 13, 2010 2:29 PM

    BTW…the “Transit” argument is a joke.
    Candlestick is accessed by ONE freeway and is surounded on three sides by water.
    The SC location is surrounded by 3 freeways, 6 lane roads, Light Rail and Amtrac.
    The entire area was BUILT for accessibility. Great America is next door to the site, The 49ers practice facility is right next door, The Santa Clara Convention Center is across the street as is a Golf Course.
    If you don’t want the Niners in SC, thats all good, but don’t make up lame and untrue arguments.

  19. raiders177 says: Apr 13, 2010 2:40 PM

    # City_Native says: April 13, 2010 1:57 PM
    With the Raiders being the lauingstock of the league . . . and having no plans for a new stadium themselves. Lets see how how many Raiders fans post about this message. I set the over / under at 6.5. I’ll take the over.
    The Raiders have always had an inferiority complex about their lack of status in NorCal.
    ______________________________________
    I live in San Jose, sorry but this directly affects me. As an A’s fan, I’d selfishly like for them to move to SJ but its probably not a good idea in the same way a stadium in Santa Clara isn’t a good idea.

  20. JSpicoli says: Apr 13, 2010 2:42 PM

    Told you so, like 6 months ago.
    They also have failed to accomodate MNF and ThursdayNF games for parking. Currently they use business parking for overflow of the 40,000 spaces the stadium will have. How are they going to park for 6pm PST start on weekdays? How will traffic be? How are the companies around the stadium going to like beer cans and puke and burnt charcoal in their parking lots?
    How on God’s green Earth will this measure ever pass? It won’t.
    And to sensitive and defensive ninerfan who says Raiders have no plans for a new stadium…Currently not, but as things stand we have a better chance and are closer to having one done in the BEST LOCATION in the Bay Area = OAK, and one will get done when the Raiders gain wins and momentum, and the economy returns. Al is not stupid enough to try and fight all the above, AND a bad economy. Timing is everything. Ask the Giants.
    The Yorks are the dumbest owners in the NFL. Fail.

  21. allforfunnplay says: Apr 13, 2010 2:43 PM

    Except that the city of SF was looking at preventing the Niners from taking the 49er name with them as a way of discouraging them from leaving. So if the city is trying to prevent the taking of the 49er name, I’m guessing that that goes doubley so for taking the San Francisco name to Santa Clara. I don’t know what you’d call them, the Silicon Valley Microchips?

  22. godofwine says: Apr 13, 2010 2:47 PM

    Is Cedar Fair Entertainment the same people that own the greatest amusement park in America-Ohio’s Cedar Point?

  23. jibfest says: Apr 13, 2010 3:06 PM

    Californians, what else do you expect? The only thing they don’t need an enviromental survey for is giving $10 Billion to illegals last year, they have no problem dishing that out.

  24. Marvin49 says: Apr 13, 2010 3:07 PM

    allforfunnplay:
    Thats BS. The city has ZERO ground to stand on and moreover it was just an empty threat by Gavin Newsome. The 49ers WOULD stay in SF if the city could present a workable plan…something they have failed utterly at providing.
    SEVERAL teams in the NFL don’t play within the city they are named after. It is swiftly becoming the norm because these new enormous stadiums are simply too big to find adeqate space.
    The Giants and Jets played in a different STATE for gods sake.

  25. Bigbluefan says: Apr 13, 2010 3:11 PM

    Here is an idea
    Instead of the owners and the goverment building the place why not have the players toss in the cash as a retirement fund
    If the team plays well and wins the place will sell out and the players would get more money

  26. Geetee52 says: Apr 13, 2010 3:12 PM

    I’ve never understood why the taxpayers should pay anything into a stadium. For crying out loud…it’s a FOOTBALL game we go to enjoy…not a ‘stadium experience’. Probably more than half of taxpayers don’t care anything for sports…yet their dollars are confiscated to go into these things. Supposedly, the NFL (and MLB, etc) are part of the free enterprise system…but most of the teams beg or threaten their way onto the public dole over stadiums. For what? It’s not enough for a hot dog to cost $5, a beer $8, a slab of grass to park 4 hours on $30 all to make billionaires richer. It wouldn’t bother me a bit to go back to the Orange Bowl to watch the Dolphins and Hurricanes instead of JoeRobbie/ProPlayer/Landshark/SunLife stadium. Even THAT is not enough for these guys now as the commissioner has now threatened that to not hold the Super Bowl their anymore unless MORE upgrades are made. We need a Fan’s Union…a simple boycott for just a few games would send a loud enough message to the Jerry Jones’ of the world that enough is enough. It would be nice to do it the Green Bay way…except…oops…the owners voted a RULE (shock!) that disallows public ownership of teams anymore. Get a TiV0, skip the commercials, leave the stadiums, and use the money you save on team ‘experiences’ on something cool you think you cannot afford.

  27. David56 says: Apr 13, 2010 3:23 PM

    Love Football !!! Always have !!! Always will !!!
    But the state of California is not only broke it has a deficit of something close to $42 Billion. In times like these how in the world can the state promise to use taxpayers’ money to help build a new stadium for the Niners? It’ll cost a fortune and even if it is built the owners will put the bill right at the feet of the fan. The Giants/Jets did it with their new stadium and so did Jerry jones and his newest monument to his ego. PSL’s will cost a fortune and everything inside the stadium will also cost a fortune so that the owners can make up their money as quickly as possible. And even when they do they’ll never, ever lower the prices.
    Why can’t they just renovate the current stadium like the Packers did with Lambeau Field?
    California has far more important concerns already without asking the taxpayers to help another billionaire owner build a new stadium.

  28. truegrinder80 says: Apr 13, 2010 3:25 PM

    This stadium should be built right next to the Giants field on the water. The space is there and it would be a perfect setting with plenty of hotels and public transportation.

  29. SATAN567 says: Apr 13, 2010 3:34 PM

    @ JSpicoli:
    OAK – best location? It looks like a nuclear weapon was deonated there. Hardly the best location for a team. Its not even a safe city for a plant to live in, let along a human being. The transformation of the scape driving from SF to OAK is truly saddening. That said, the Raiders deserve OAK and OAK deserves the Raiders. Trash.

  30. Biff says: Apr 13, 2010 3:36 PM

    Please keep the team in SF. I enjoy going to games because I get spend time in the big city. Why would I want to visit Santa Clara?

  31. allforfunnplay says: Apr 13, 2010 4:00 PM

    Oh I know it was just a threat by Newsome. But then again, to my knowledge no sports team has tried to sue a team for taking the city name with them once they leave for the suburbs. San Francisco is just crazy enough to try it and the Niners know it.
    And its MASS Transit that is the biggest problem for the Santa Clara site. Light Rail? Amtak? AT&T Park is serviced by BART (from the Embarcadero stop and just a couple MUNI stops), MUNI and Cal Train. Candlestick can be serviced by BART, MUNI and CAltrain with shuttles. I don’t know what they’d do about access to Hunters Point. I think MUNI goes through there but that’s about it.

  32. AllThat says: Apr 13, 2010 4:03 PM

    The whole state of California blows!!! You still have Pelosi there but you could possibly build a parking garage on that hard pan face of hers.

  33. City_Native says: Apr 13, 2010 4:36 PM

    # AllThat says: April 13, 2010 4:03 PM
    The whole state of California blows!!! You still have Pelosi there but you could possibly build a parking garage on that hard pan face of hers.
    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -
    Great post. (Sarcasm) Pelosi was born and raised in Baltimore, MD. She spent the first 30 years of her life there. As for California…..it blows so much….thats why most move west to it rather than move east from it.

  34. iusedtobeteddybayer says: Apr 13, 2010 4:50 PM

    Isn’t Great America in bankruptcy? Takes a hit on your credibility.

  35. raiders177 says: Apr 13, 2010 4:51 PM

    # Marvin49 says: April 13, 2010 2:29 PM
    BTW…the “Transit” argument is a joke.
    Candlestick is accessed by ONE freeway and is surounded on three sides by water.
    The SC location is surrounded by 3 freeways, 6 lane roads, Light Rail and Amtrac.
    The entire area was BUILT for accessibility. Great America is next door to the site, The 49ers practice facility is right next door, The Santa Clara Convention Center is across the street as is a Golf Course.
    If you don’t want the Niners in SC, thats all good, but don’t make up lame and untrue arguments.
    ____________________________________
    Have you been on any of those freeways or taken the public transportation in the area? Its terrible. The freeways are congested as it is and VTA is a joke.
    The infrastructure of the San Jose area isn’t built to handle multiple teams. Maybe if they improved the public transportion (or you know, bring BART to the South Bay) it could work. Hell, traffic sucks on 280 because of the San Jose Sharks and they only draw 18,000.

  36. norseman69 says: Apr 13, 2010 4:54 PM

    Real simple, build the stadium on Treasure Island with a view of the downtown sky line create a rapid transit and boat shuttle to the island.. For auto charge a flat rate of 35$ for the game.

  37. Marvin49 says: Apr 13, 2010 5:14 PM

    raiders177:
    Yes…I use those roads everyday. I live here and work 5 min from the site.
    Will there be traffic. YES.
    Will it be better than Candlestick? 1000 times YES.
    Can anyone think of a site that would have better access? (and don’t say Oakland…not gonna happen).

  38. raiders177 says: Apr 13, 2010 5:59 PM

    # Marvin49 says: April 13, 2010 5:14 PM
    raiders177:
    Yes…I use those roads everyday. I live here and work 5 min from the site.
    Will there be traffic. YES.
    Will it be better than Candlestick? 1000 times YES.
    Can anyone think of a site that would have better access? (and don’t say Oakland…not gonna happen).
    ____________________________________
    Here’s the thing, the voters of Santa Clara County view Candlestick as the Niners problem. Why should they pay tax $$ to help out the Niners? Sure it’ll create a few temporary jobs, but it will cost the tax payers millions.
    San Jose and the voters of Santa Clara County had a chance to bring the SF Giants over to the South Bay in the early ’90s and it didn’t pass because the bill proposed a 12 cent tax per household per year. People didn’t want to pay 12 cents a freaking year to bring a professional baseball team to town. People of SCC are stingy.

  39. qawagstaff2009 says: Apr 13, 2010 7:41 PM

    Tear down that ridiculous Oakland Coliseum and build one great Football Stadium that has access to Bart and both teams can use.

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