Skip to content

Spygate lawsuit lives, at least for now

Our friends at the Associated Press, when not acknowledging valid reports of Super Bowl MVPs being suspended for 25 percent of the coming season, spend their time suggesting that an apparently frivolous lawsuit has more merit than it actually possesses.  Or, for that matter, any merit at all.

To the untrained eye, the article from David Porter of the AP reads as if Carl Mayer and Bruce Afran have a proverbial tiger by the tail in connection with a class action filed regarding the Spygate scandal of 2007, which prompted the league to fine the Patriots and coach Bill Belichick a total of $750,000 for admittedly videotaping defensive coaching signals during games.  Specifically, Mayer and Afran sued the Patriots and Belichick for more than $184 million in damages based on the argument that Jets’ ticket holders were defrauded during eight games at the Meadowlands during Belichick’s tenure due to the cheating.  (The Patriots won all but one of the games.)

In the ninth paragraph of the article, the truth regarding the supposed viability of the lawsuit finally is explained — in March 2009, a federal judge in Trenton, New Jersey dismissed the case, explaining that the buyer of a ticket to a sporting event is entitled only “to view whatever event transpires.”  Wednesday’s oral argument before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit represents the final step in Mayer and Afran’s automatic right to appeal.

But the fact that the case is hanging by its last tattered thread never quite comes through in Porter’s article, due in large part to the omission of any statement regarding the Patriots’ position, which arises from the contention that an attorney representing the Patriots did not return a Tuesday telephone message. 

And the article was pushed on Tuesday evening.

As most journalists (and even guys like me who pretend to be one) know, it’s unreasonable to expect a practicing lawyer to return a phone call on the same day a message is left.  Lawyers routinely are away from the office for hearings and depositions and trials. 

We realize that the Associated Press believed it made sense to push a story onto the wire in advance of Wednesday’s hearing.  By why not try to get the comment from the Patriots before the day the story was due to be published?

Failing that, why not at least run a quote or two from the brief submitted on behalf of the team?

Of course, that approach could have undermined the apparently intended message that the lawsuit’s death spiral is actually the warm up for a touchdown celebration.

Permalink 57 Comments Feed for comments Latest Stories in: Legal, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Rumor Mill, Sprint Football Live - Rumors, Top Stories
57 Responses to “Spygate lawsuit lives, at least for now”
  1. blitzburgh1 says: Apr 13, 2010 8:51 PM

    Is Florio really lecturing the AP about how to write a news article?
    Seriously?

  2. sim448 says: Apr 13, 2010 8:53 PM

    spygate? looks like i am done with this site for awhile. Any mention of it, and i automatically check out of pft for at least a month. see you in 2011, Florio.

  3. TheWizard says: Apr 13, 2010 8:53 PM

    Better yet, wait til the Pats are in a Super Bowl, and release the story two days before!
    Oh, wait…………

  4. Capt. James T. Kirk says: Apr 13, 2010 8:56 PM

    Holy Crap. Mikey can write about something other than Big Ben. Lose a bet?
    Spygate? What is this…some FBI sting? I thought this was settled before the invention of the forward pass?

  5. Paracelsus says: Apr 13, 2010 8:57 PM

    Please don’t kick your dog tonight. Might be a good idea to listen to some soothing new age music. Have you not hear that media battles have become passe? Even new vs. old. Now, deep breaths, relax and get some sleep. Have a great day, tomorrow.

  6. ItalianArmyGuy says: Apr 13, 2010 9:00 PM

    Kind of hard to win a lawsuit like that when the commissioner of the sports league has already destroyed all the evidence. Might as well sue Richard Nixon’s kids for damages allegedly done by the 18 minutes of presidential tape he had erased. How you going to prove it?

  7. litemater says: Apr 13, 2010 9:01 PM

    Most post on this site have little merit as well………………………………………………..

  8. Kate773 says: Apr 13, 2010 9:03 PM

    Here we go. Ugh.

  9. blackglass says: Apr 13, 2010 9:03 PM

    How does this have anything to do with Ben Roethlisberger or Brett Favre?

  10. Kate773 says: Apr 13, 2010 9:05 PM

    Here we go. Ugh.

  11. this class sucks says: Apr 13, 2010 9:08 PM

    Flroio, without the AP you and every other internet hack wouldn’t have any material because, god forbid, you would have to actually do research your self, instead of waiting around for them to do all the work then rehashing their story and claiming it as your own. Like this one. Who cares about Spygate? I hate the Patriots as much as anyone but I really am over this Spygate thing. They cheated, we all know they did, so lets move on.

  12. Deb says: Apr 13, 2010 9:13 PM

    Well, Florio, I actually read the article, so I know you’re not resurrecting Spygate, as some seem to think. You’re just chastising the Associated Press for creating a story out of nothing.
    So, Mr. Pot, are you a rich ebony black or a dusky charcoal? What kind of handle do you have?

  13. Count Sacula says: Apr 13, 2010 9:13 PM

    Good. Screw the Cheatriots. Their legacy is tarnished.

  14. diehardskinsfan says: Apr 13, 2010 9:15 PM

    you know mike Pats fans are bitter b/c its true cheatingchick

  15. TheSleepness says: Apr 13, 2010 9:18 PM

    lol man you guys are harsh…i admit florio tends to pound some teams more than others (jets, redskins) but these are the teams making moves and noise..who wants to talk about the 49ers or the seahawks Zzzz

  16. taxistan says: Apr 13, 2010 9:20 PM

    If you think this is bad reporting by the AP you should have some knowledge of the global warming controversy and read their reporting on that. As my Grandpappy said: You will believe what you read in the newspapers until they happen to write on something you really know about.

  17. Nuckinfutz says: Apr 13, 2010 9:20 PM

    …..and in other breaking news…….there are problems with the Apollo 13 spacecraft, and the moon landing will have to be scuttled.

  18. BigBear123 says: Apr 13, 2010 9:22 PM

    Can also sue Dungy and Jeff Fisher for deciding on the games outcome before it started.
    Can sue WWE for calling it wrestling.
    Bitter fans taking potshots at a rival is all this is.

  19. The Wishbone says: Apr 13, 2010 9:37 PM

    This post answers the question, “Is there anyone left who respects the Associated Press?”
    Apparently, the answer is “Yeah, just one guy: Mike Florio.”
    Spygate?! Really?! REALLY?! In 2010?! Only ignorant people thought it was newsworthy in 2007.

  20. TryTheVeal says: Apr 13, 2010 9:50 PM

    Maybe Pats season ticket holders should sue the patriots for not getting back to the Super Bowl since this happened…….After all you were defrauded

  21. Sportsbozo1 says: Apr 13, 2010 10:04 PM

    How would you like to be the mother of either of the ambulance chasing Attornies who filed to have the case heard,I’m betting the first words out of their mothers mouths is F’n retards I spent all this money too send them to Law School and they spend all their time to sue football teams. The best part of these two nitwits ran down their mothers legs.

  22. TheHippo says: Apr 13, 2010 10:10 PM

    Wow ….. unless these guys are two bookies is there a better example of the need for Tort Reform ?

  23. efangule says: Apr 13, 2010 10:16 PM

    Hope they get every dime.

  24. Desean Maclin 1018 says: Apr 13, 2010 10:18 PM

    My fellow PFT readers, why are you bashing Florio for writing this article? If you don’t care, don’t read it. Simple as that. Some of you take it a step farther and comment on the post, I say GTFO, the site is better off without you jerkoffs anyway.

  25. JoeSixPack says: Apr 13, 2010 10:21 PM

    Maybe if this lawsuit moves forward we can sue George Halas and the Bears, Lamar Hunt and the Chiefs, and all the other coaches and teams that have been “cheating” the same way going back to the 1950s!
    http://www.thesportgallery.com/sport-stories/1967aug-nflspy.html
    Unfortunately most fans lack the reading comprehension skills to know the history of their own sport, and actually think that taping signal calls during games is actually a violation of the rules.

  26. hayward giablommi says: Apr 13, 2010 10:24 PM

    Gee, since you’re now desperately digging up ancient news with no current relevence, maybe you can check the wire and provide updates on following controversies, in no particular order:
    – Michael Irvin caught with coke and a hooker
    – Zeke Mowatt showing his crank to a female reporter in the locker room
    – Vikings love cruise sex boat scandall
    – Mark Chmura babysitter sex
    – Cleveland Browns announce move to Baltimore
    – Mercury Morris sentenced to 20 years for cocaine trafficking
    – Nate Newton caught with 400 lbs of marijuana

  27. bonecity7 says: Apr 13, 2010 10:40 PM

    TryTheVeal says:
    April 13, 2010 9:50 PM
    Maybe Pats season ticket holders should sue the patriots for not getting back to the Super Bowl since this happened…….After all you were defrauded
    How fricken stoopid are you? The Pats went to the Superbowl just months after this happened!! Any chance you’ve heard about the 16-0 regular season in 2007 and the 18-1 overall record that year?
    In your haste to enter an witty(?) shot at the Patriots, you have sacrificed any credibility regarding the NFL that you might have had.

  28. KOM2K10 says: Apr 13, 2010 11:05 PM

    I don’t understand how the spygate scandal doesn’t completely destroy the Patriots legacy. My gosh, Tom Brady knew every freakin defensive play that was comming at him for at least 7 YEARS!!! Isn’t that the hardest thing for a new QB to learn? How much better off would any young QB be if they had that advantage for so long. I’m not saying Brady isn’t a great QB, but my point is that we’ll never really know because of the cheating path they decided to pursue. They took the chance to attain “greatness” by persistant cheating. Now that they’ve gotten caught, I believe their legacy is permanetly tarnished until the Bilicheck era is done.

  29. Slow Joe says: Apr 13, 2010 11:19 PM

    Our friends at the Associated Press, when not acknowledging valid reports of Super Bowl MVPs being suspended for 25 percent of the coming season, spend their time suggesting that an apparently frivolous lawsuit has more merit than it actually possesses.
    I like most of your writing, Mikey. But this sentence is horrible. I spent two minutes trying to figure out what the hell you were saying. It’s confusing and barely qualifies as a sentence. Are you saying that those two activities are the only two things the AP does?

  30. ItalianArmyGuy says: Apr 13, 2010 11:28 PM

    The good thing about this is that the whole SpyGate affair will finally get a hearing in front of a court – something that probably should have happened a long time ago. If Goodell hadn’t destroyed all the evidence and covered up for Belicheat, this would be a more worthy pursuit. However, I think its important that this whole sordid affair gets a public hearing. Hopefully the Appelate court will remand it back to the federal court in Trenton and require the judge to hear the case. If the facts of the case ever get a full public hearing, even without the video evidence, I think there will be a stronger public cry for the Patsies to have their trophies stripped, and their names to be deleted from the lists of champions.

  31. JoeSixPack says: Apr 13, 2010 11:28 PM

    KOM2K10 – you’re either being completely sarcastic and mocking fans who think as you suggest… or you have absolutely no understanding of the game of football.
    Do you think there’s an instaneous “translation” of signals being called into the Defense, interpreted, and beamed into Brady’s earpiece on each call so that “he knew every freakin’ play for the last 7 years?”
    And do you think that other teams don’t steal signals? Ever watch a game on TV and see the coaches cover their mouths when calling in the plays? Yeah… even games where they’re not playing the Patriots…
    That’s because the other team – YOUR TEAM – is trying to STEAL THEIR SIGNALS! Do they instantly beam this back to the QB? No. They tape the games and signal calls from the stands and they analyze the game to get to know tendencies and playcalling in certain situations.
    That’s what Belichick and every other team in the NFL do with the game tapes they get.
    Geeze – I’m embarrassed that NFL fans just can’t seem to comprehend this.

  32. JoeSixPack says: Apr 13, 2010 11:37 PM

    So let me get this straight… Jets fans are complaining that they were deprived an “honest game” in their home stadium where Jimmy Hoffa is buried?

  33. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 13, 2010 11:41 PM

    “KOM2K10 says:
    April 13, 2010 11:05 PM
    I don’t understand how the spygate scandal doesn’t completely destroy the Patriots legacy. My gosh, Tom Brady knew every freakin defensive play that was comming at him for at least 7 YEARS!!!”
    Because it wasn’t a big deal, and most other teams were behaving similarly (which is why a league wide memo went out). In fact, an objective observer might opine that the reason the Patriots were punished so harshly was for disregarding an order from a new, over zealous commissioner, than for the actual act itself.
    And no, they didn’t know what play was coming for 7 years. IF they were able to actually deduce what signals related to what plays, that information would only be useful in rematches against teams whose signals they had already cracked…..and that also would have to assume that the signals hadn’t changed between their first and second meetings due to new plays being added, and oh, you know….coaching changes, things like that. Since they hardly ever saw anyone but a divisional opponent more than once a season, and rarely even in back-to-back seasons, odds are pretty good that the signals, by the team they attempted to use them, would have been worthless anyway.

  34. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 13, 2010 11:44 PM

    “ItalianArmyGuy says:
    April 13, 2010 11:28 PM
    If Goodell hadn’t destroyed all the evidence and covered up for Belicheat, this would be a more worthy pursuit.”
    To continue with my earlier point about the over zealous new commissioner handing down to harsh a punishment, one could also make the connection that, the reason the commissioner destroyed the evidence is because he realized he blew the situation out of proportion, and also realized that any minor piece of videotape was going to cause people to go even more overboard with their assumptions.
    I ASSURE you Roger Goodell regrets his handling of the situation, and Paul Tagliabue would never have handed down such a stiff penalty to make a point, and the issue would have never needlessly blown up. It would have been a caught with your hand in the cookie jar situation, especially since it was so widespread.

  35. jpak says: Apr 13, 2010 11:52 PM

    lol listening to the comments of some of the users on this site I had to sign up and comment
    First off every team takes the other teams defensive signals, Jimmy Johnson has admitted to doing it and named other coaches that he knew did it whats even funnier Tony Dungy was an assistant on one of the teams named lol
    Also this would not give a team an edge, it would not effect that current game and you are a complete idiot if you think a team can go through all those plays figure out the signal and the play called and get this info to the QB during half time. The tape would be used for the next game but the problem with that is most teams change up their defensive signals week by week, wanna know why they do that? Because every team steals their signals, lol apparentaly in one of the videos taken from the Pats then Jets coach waves at the cameraman

  36. Fight'n Amish says: Apr 14, 2010 12:00 AM

    I am tired of this Spygate stuff as well, but here is definitive proof that it actually did happen. Check this video out, it is hilarious:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntw7G7enxEk&feature=PlayList&p=8BA159BE07B0556F&playnext_from=PL&index=5

  37. 1up says: Apr 14, 2010 1:21 AM

    “KOM2K10 says:
    April 13, 2010 11:05 PM
    I don’t understand how the spygate scandal doesn’t completely destroy the Patriots legacy. My gosh, Tom Brady knew every freakin defensive play that was comming at him for at least 7 YEARS!!! Isn’t that the hardest thing for a new QB to learn? How much better off would any young QB be if they had that advantage for so long. I’m not saying Brady isn’t a great QB, but my point is that we’ll never really know because of the cheating path they decided to pursue. They took the chance to attain “greatness” by persistant cheating. Now that they’ve gotten caught, I believe their legacy is permanetly tarnished until the Bilicheck era is done.”
    ————————————————–
    Okay…take a deep breath…Everyone is allowed to tape the opposing teams sidelines (defensive signals and all), but you are not allowed to do it from the sidelines.
    Recap. Video Tape defensive signals == Good. Do it from the sidelines == Bad.

  38. 1up says: Apr 14, 2010 1:39 AM

    “Fight’n Amish says:
    April 14, 2010 12:00 AM
    I am tired of this Spygate stuff as well, but here is definitive proof that it actually did happen. Check this video out, it is hilarious:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntw7G7enxEk&feature=PlayList&p=8BA159BE07B0556F&playnext_from=PL&index=5
    —————————————————-
    Thank you sir. W/o this definitive hard evidence, there is no way anyone would have known the “truth”

  39. this class sucks says: Apr 14, 2010 2:58 AM

    Wow, some people are really hard on the AP. Have you ever read a news story? It was from the AP.
    The Patriots cheated. They got caught. The Jets can sue all they want, they just (probably) have zero chance at winning. It certainly doesn’t help that Goodell destroyed the tapes (which is enough for me to think that it was way worse than they let on). But they probably couldn’t win with the tapes because the fans aren’t coming to see their team win they are coming to see a game. It would be like the fans suing the Colts for resting guys (like someone said earlier).

  40. Doctor Connors says: Apr 14, 2010 4:30 AM

    The problem with spygate is that morons all across America think like KOM2K10 does. I’m really tired of posting long replies, because apparently you guys don’t want to listen, but I think it’s kind of strange that guys like Bill Cowher would defend the Patriots and say spygate was no big deal, when, of ANYBODY, he should hold the biggest grudge over it.

  41. Patriots51 says: Apr 14, 2010 7:03 AM

    TryTheVeal says:
    April 13, 2010 9:50 PM
    Maybe Pats season ticket holders should sue the patriots for not getting back to the Super Bowl since this happened…….After all you were defrauded
    it happened in week one vs the Jets… they got to the superbowl THAT season you moron…. dont post on the site if you dont know what your talking about.. damn

  42. DirtDawg55 says: Apr 14, 2010 7:19 AM

    So, let me get this straight. Florio is taking the AP to task because he thinks they left out material information that then causes the article to be slanted a certain way? Yeah … like every article he has pretty much ever posted.
    And to those who say “then don’t rad and don’t post”, well, it’s called a forum for a reason. The entire purpose of the site is rumours, gossip and forum discussion. This is a free exchange of ideas … well, mainly rants, spoofs and spout-offs, but you get the picture.

  43. ampats says: Apr 14, 2010 7:58 AM

    Debating with KOM2k10 and Armyguy is a waste of time.
    As Forrest Gump said STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES and these two along with Matt Walsh are poster children.
    Same stupid childish comments posted on every article Patriots related

  44. HamBurghlar says: Apr 14, 2010 10:00 AM

    @ampats: “same stupid childish comments posted on every article Patriots related”
    Get used to it, I’ve seen you doing the same thing a million times in all of the Steelers/Ben articles. “Rapistberger” much? Don’t be a hypocrite. And this is my 2nd post on anything Pats* related in the history of me checking out this “reputable” site.

  45. olcap says: Apr 14, 2010 11:36 AM

    NE Cheatriots – only NFL team IN HISTORY to be fined AND have their first round draft pick voided, and the head coach fined – FOR PROVEN CHEATING. Thank you.

  46. biggregmoney says: Apr 14, 2010 12:17 PM

    I can’t believe this topic is back.
    Here’s the deal. The Pats were not punished for video taping the opposing coach’s signals. They were punished for having a camera on the sidelines. Nowhere in the NFL rulebook, constitution, or bylaws does it say a team cannot videotape another teams’ signals. It only mentions where cameras can and cannot be placed.
    In the memo sent out by the league before the 2007 season, it was reiterating this rule to teams because it had become a league wide problem that the NEW Commissioner wanted to end. The memo does not say it is illegal to tape opponents coaches. It said where it was illegal to have a camera.
    As a Pats fan, I will say that if the league caught Belichick using these tapes during the game (ie at halftime), then I would agree with those who said he was cheating. Matt Walsh was supposed to provide this evidence, but he clearly stated that he NEVER provided a tape to Belichick until AFTER the game. So, Belichick was not using these tapes in this manner.
    The punishment was harsh IMO because the new commish wanted to lay down the law to a team that thumbed its nose at the memo sent.
    Question for you? Are the Denver Broncos’ 2 titles tainted in the 90s? They were caught and punished more severely for salary cap circumvention. How about the 49ers for the same reason? How about the Cowboys 3 titles in the early 90s? Jimmy Johnson says he did the same thing as Belichick. How about the Steelers 4 under Bradshaw? He’s an admitted steroid user? I can play this game with any team in any era. Hell, Paul Hornung was caught betting on games. Could he have affected the outcomes of some? Sure. That’s why he was suspended. Are GBs titles in the 60s tainted? Some could argue yes.
    I personally believe this is all hogwash, but if you’re gonna vilify the Pats, then you gotta look at some other teams as well.
    So, get over it.

  47. ampats says: Apr 14, 2010 1:34 PM

    Hey Hamburgler
    Show me in ANY of my posts where I referred to BR as Rapistwhatever????
    Cant because never I did. I was appalled by his actions as is half of Steeler nation.

  48. biggregmoney says: Apr 14, 2010 2:01 PM

    To Olcap:
    In keeping with the “new sherriff in town” attitude that Goodell had with this situation, I firmly believe that he took away a 1st round pick because he knew the Pats had TWO of them (theirs and SFs, which turned out to be Mayo). If the Pats only had one 1st rounder, I believe Goodell would have taken away a 2nd round pick and maybe another pick. Just my opinion.
    As for “PROVEN CHEATING”, how exactly did they cheat? Where in the NFL rulebook, bylaws, and constitution (yes, there is an NFL Constitution) does it say you cannot film the opponents coaches? Show me where it says this, and I will jump to your side.
    I believe you are right in that the Pats were the 1st to have a 1st round pick taken away, but the Pats were obviously not the 1st team to be fined, and Belichick was NOT the first HC fined as your post states. He was the 1st to be fined the maximum amount allowed ($500K). The team was also fined $250K. The $750K total is not even CLOSE to the highest fines levied against a team and individuals.
    The Broncos lost a 3rd round pick and $968K in 2001 for cap circumvention. And just to prove they learned their lesson, the same thing happened to them in 2004 (loss of a 3rd rounder and $950K fine). Granted, the 1st time was over deferred payments to Elway and TD and not that egregious, but he 2nd time had nothing to do with that. SF lost a 3rd and a 5th and was fined over a million dollars when all was said and done for the same thing. In the Broncos case, the circumvention came in the period of their SB years. I guess Denver cheated too (Denver Cheatos?).
    This is all just a bunch of hooey for those who hate the Pats.
    As for the guys filing the lawsuit for fraud. You’re suing the WRONG TEAM!

  49. HamBurghlar says: Apr 14, 2010 2:25 PM

    @ampats: forgive me for assuming, which is what you did when you said I troll Pats posts. But I have seen you on a few Ben threads just adding to the other idiots posts and going along w/ the “crucify him” mentality. Either way, the childish *cheater* comments are going to happen to the Pats forever, just like Ben will be coined a “rapist” on this site anytime a hater chooses to post.
    Im a Steeler fan and quite unhappy with Ben as I hope his punishment will snap him out of it, even if we have to lose 2-4 games. He may not be charged w/ anything, but he’s guilty of being a dumbass.

  50. ampats says: Apr 14, 2010 3:00 PM

    Thats cool. As a father of a college coed when the story broke I was incensed. Who knows what will come out of it but it is a shame that he continues to act like a dumbass and embarrasses himself, Steeler organization and “his family”
    I believe his sister is a college coed . I remember a few years ago taking her to a prom

  51. Deb says: Apr 14, 2010 3:36 PM

    @HamBurghlar and ampats …
    I’m very much against league suspension on principle (big surprise :-) simply because he’s never been arrested, fined, warned, or failed a drug test, and no other player in that situation has ever been suspended.
    But I I’m falling more and more in love with the idea of the Steelers making him clean the toilets at Heinz Field every day for the rest of the off season. It’s good honest labor and would be good exercise. It would be a humbling experience and would keep him busy and out of trouble. He’d be too tired after practice and cleaning to go out at night. And it would help him develop an aversion to cavorting in bathrooms.
    What do you think?

  52. ampats says: Apr 14, 2010 4:54 PM

    Very funny Deb. I am curious what his father and sister think about his behavior.
    I do not like all these fines especially for hits in the field of play. I think they are ruining the game.

  53. Deb says: Apr 14, 2010 5:09 PM

    @ampats …
    I’m not altogether kidding. From some of the stories I’ve heard about his egomania, I think that kind of humiliating boot-camp punishment is more fitting–and might have more impact. If teams have the authority to make players run wind sprints and two-a-days, they should be able to make them clean toilets.
    I don’t like fines for hits, either–particularly if the hits weren’t flagged at the time. That seems ridiculous. Fines should be reserved for something over-the-top dirty–like the Gator player’s eye-gouging incident.

  54. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 14, 2010 5:38 PM

    “Deb says:
    April 14, 2010 3:36 PM
    @HamBurghlar and ampats …
    I’m very much against league suspension on principle (big surprise :-) simply because he’s never been arrested, fined, warned, or failed a drug test, and no other player in that situation has ever been suspended.”
    1) He was plying underage girls with alcohol
    2) Pacman Jones was suspended multiple times with no charges filed against him.

  55. Deb says: Apr 14, 2010 6:13 PM

    @TFBuckFutter …
    April 2005–PacMan Jones was investigated by police for a nightclub altercation in Georgia
    July 2005–Jones was CHARGED w/assault, felony vandalism for nightclub altercation in DC
    Sept 2005–police called to subdue Jones following altercation at Nashville sports luncheon
    Oct 2005–petition filed by West Virginia to extend probation on previous case because Jones failed to report to probation officer and to report July ARREST
    Feb 2006–Jones CHARGED with felony and misdemeanor obstruction of justice and marjijuana possession in Georgia; possession charge later dismissed
    Aug 2006–Jones ARRESTED for disorderly conduct, public intoxication in Tennessee; six months probation
    Oct 2006–CITED for midemeanor assault in Nashville; suspended by Titans for one game
    Feb 2007–allegedly assaulted Las Vegas stripper; shooting ensued in which someone allegedly in Jones’s party shot former wrestler Tommy Urbanski, paralyzing him. DA announced Jones would face two felony charges, but he pleaded no contest to one charge of misdemeanor conspiracy. Received one-year suspended sentence, probation, 200 hours community service.
    June 2007–questioned following shooting at Atlanta strip club involving his entourage
    At that point–after MULTIPLE ARRESTS and two shooting incidents in one year–Goodell FINALLY suspended Jones for the 2007 season. That was his FIRST league suspension.
    To date, Ben Roethlisberger has NEVER been arrested, charged, failed a drug test, been involved in any disciplinary issue with the Steelers or the league, been fined or warned for any on- or off-field behavior.
    If you listened to DA Bright’s entire press conference, he addressed the issue of underage drinking. He said the girls were drinking BEFORE they came to the club and joined Ben. He said Ben bought alcohol for the room, and that the waitress set in the middle of the table. He said the group included many girls who were OVER 21. He said the accuser was 20 and a half. So he was not “plying” underage girls with alcohol–nor could he have known she was a few months from being 21.
    The DA said furnishing alcohol for someone underage is a misdemeanor but the mirror charge is underage drinking. They could not prove Ben bought the alcohol FOR her. And to charge him, they would have had to charge her. They elected to let it go.
    Checking facts before mouthing off isn’t your strong suit, is it?

  56. georgiavol91 says: Apr 14, 2010 10:24 PM

    Florio,
    Read this evening’s NY Post account to the Mayer lawsuit. Maybe there is more to this than meets the eye, wiseass.

  57. rusH1023 says: Apr 16, 2010 4:39 PM

    # KOM2K10 says: April 13, 2010 11:05 PM
    I don’t understand how the spygate scandal doesn’t completely destroy the Patriots legacy. My gosh, Tom Brady knew every freakin defensive play that was comming at him for at least 7 YEARS!!! Isn’t that the hardest thing for a new QB to learn? How much better off would any young QB be if they had that advantage for so long. I’m not saying Brady isn’t a great QB, but my point is that we’ll never really know because of the cheating path they decided to pursue. They took the chance to attain “greatness” by persistant cheating. Now that they’ve gotten caught, I believe their legacy is permanetly tarnished until the Bilicheck era is done.
    ________________________________________
    Thankfully, only half-retards think the way you do. You WANT to believe it, so it’s so. I’d wager my house that you think god and Santa are real, too?

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!