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Ginn looks like odd man out in Miami

Miami’s attempts to trade Ted Ginn don’t figure to slow down following the acquisition of Brandon Marshall.

You could question the Dolphins’ top-shelf receiver talent before the trade, but not their depth.  Davone Bess is a great slot receiver, Greg Camarillo has been productive, and second-year player Brian Hartline showed promise as a rookie.

The Dolphins also have last year’s third-round pick, Patrick Turner, who was taken ahead of Hartline.  Add it all up, and Ted Ginn looks like the odd man out. A few things stand in the way.  

Will any team give up anything more than, say, a fifth or sixth-round pick for Ginn?  We doubt it.

Ginn also brings something the rest of the group lacks — vertical speed. 

We’ve heard Marshall called a “field-stretching” receiver, but that’s a misnomer. He’s a physical player that makes noise after the catch.  He’s closer in style to Hartline and Bess than Ginn.  (Of course, Marshall is the only one keeping defensive coordinators up at night.)

It’s hard to see where Ginn fits in this group, but it’s also hard to see another team giving up much for him.
 

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61 Responses to “Ginn looks like odd man out in Miami”
  1. Big Stretch says: Apr 14, 2010 11:07 AM

    He looked like the odd man out last year too. The Dolphins screwed up big time when they wasted that pick on him.

  2. GoCaps8 says: Apr 14, 2010 11:07 AM

    Redskins should make a play for Ginn. They could use an impact player on special teams. I’d give up a 5th or a player for him.

  3. contraryguy says: Apr 14, 2010 11:08 AM

    Not that the Browns have anyone to throw to him, but hometown-boy Ginn would be a natural refugee for Cleveland to pick up. And they luuuuv spending the picks.

  4. KingGator13 says: Apr 14, 2010 11:08 AM

    Ginn will be moved to the Bucs today for a 5th round pick…. word on the street in Tampa.

  5. Redskins_Fan says: Apr 14, 2010 11:08 AM

    Ginn would be a decent fit in Washington. They need a fast punt returner that can break away…

  6. TheDPR says: Apr 14, 2010 11:09 AM

    Bess isn’t a “great” anything. He’s a good slot receiver who seems to work really hard. Hyperbole isn’t necessary.

  7. KILLER FIN says: Apr 14, 2010 11:09 AM

    SEE IF CAM CAMORON WANT’S HIS BOY BACK IN ANY KIND OF TRADE TO GET A PICK BACK!!!

  8. JDMP says: Apr 14, 2010 11:09 AM

    Lions need a slot wr/kr! Hows two 7′s sound?

  9. kpweaver27 says: Apr 14, 2010 11:09 AM

    You might see a team give up a 5th rounder and stick him on returns only.

  10. DOLPHIN ED says: Apr 14, 2010 11:10 AM

    with Marshall ,,,Ginn could have a great year

  11. Dayton Dolfan says: Apr 14, 2010 11:11 AM

    Keep Ginn Jr. If nothing else, he’s a Jets killa’
    He beat Revis deep on MNF last year for a long TD and busted two KR for TD in NY last year that caused Rex to crap his pants.

  12. HarrisonHits says: Apr 14, 2010 11:11 AM

    Ginn has mostly been awful. Another team might give up a dinner at Burger King for him, but not more than that.

  13. Spenicourt says: Apr 14, 2010 11:11 AM

    Although I cant stand Ginn over the middle or on any other route than a fly, doesnt make sense to dump him for a 5th or 6th rounder. Keep him now that you have Marshall as your vertical threat… let him do what he does best, catch a bomb, where no one will hit him, as Marshall will command the attn of the corner, safety and OLB.

  14. Midway Monster says: Apr 14, 2010 11:11 AM

    Throw a 6th round pick at them Angelo and let the track meet begin in the new Martz offense…

  15. hnirobert says: Apr 14, 2010 11:12 AM

    I’d trade him for some Gatorade coolers and cups.

  16. Steel City Stud says: Apr 14, 2010 11:12 AM

    Steelers, please flip the pick you just got from the Jets & get this guy for the return game & an extra receiver.

  17. The Hoff says: Apr 14, 2010 11:13 AM

    Please Colts give up a late rounder for Ginn. We need a freakin’ decent returner for once!!!

  18. Elleclouds says: Apr 14, 2010 11:14 AM

    The dolphins will be better off keeping Ginn. Why give him up, he might be a poor excuse for a wr but he is the best kr/pr on the team. Now he can run those fly routes one on one due to teams game planning for Marshall or Ronnie.

  19. brasho says: Apr 14, 2010 11:14 AM

    Marshall is a downfield threat because of his tremendous when matched against much smaller CBs… that is why he is able to stretch the field. He is nothing like Bess. Bess is a extremely quick, but slow little guy that does all the dirty work, he’s nothing like Marshall either. Bess is a major-league overachiever and team player.

  20. Protagonista305 says: Apr 14, 2010 11:15 AM

    THE DOLPHINS SHOULD NOT TRADE TED GINN !!!!!
    THEY SHOULD HOLD A SPECIAL EVENT AT DOLPHINS STADIUM WHERE DOLFAN CAN COME OUT AND TAR AND FEATHER HIS ASS FOR ALL THEY PAIN HE HAS CAUSED US !!!!

  21. rocknrollsinger says: Apr 14, 2010 11:15 AM

    Doesn’t Marshall’s acquisition make Ted Ginn that much more dangerous? It’s much easier to get the ball to the deep threat when you have a big, high-profile possession receiver on the other side. If the Dolphins get rid of Ginn, then they just don’t like him.
    Bess and his 9.5 YPC sure as heck isn’t the deep threat.

  22. Poo Flinging Monkey says: Apr 14, 2010 11:15 AM

    Ginn can expect a call from Darth Davis soon.

  23. habibfromnewdehli says: Apr 14, 2010 11:16 AM

    The Ravens would be happy to trade:
    Mark Clayton (former 1st round pick)
    for
    Ted Ginn (former 1st round pick)
    Make it happen! hahaha

  24. Kellar_2 says: Apr 14, 2010 11:16 AM

    2 things:
    1. Ginn could end up in Cincinnati. Played at OSU, and even with the Antonio Bryant signing, the Bengals still need a WR to stretch the field.
    2. Didn’t someone on this site mention last week that BOTH Ginn jr. and Ronnie Brown replica jerseys were in the discount bin?

  25. Tcostant says: Apr 14, 2010 11:17 AM

    If I was the Giants I would give a fifth or sixth rounder for Ginn, his kickoff return skills are worth that and then let him work is way up from WR #4. Ginn would be a major upgrade from Sinorice Moss.

  26. Ron says: Apr 14, 2010 11:18 AM

    I’d love to see Ginn showcase his
    “vertical speed” with a 40 yard
    “vertical dash “

  27. JDMP says: Apr 14, 2010 11:18 AM

    naaah the steelers have a good retuner in the back up rb

  28. FreeAgentPro says: Apr 14, 2010 11:19 AM

    The Dolphins just busted the year they picked Ginn. They were heavily criticized for not picking Quinn with the pick used on Ginn, but it turns out that they could have chosen either with the same result.

  29. 2 Dimes and a Nickel Back says: Apr 14, 2010 11:20 AM

    49ers will pick him up

  30. DolphinSig says: Apr 14, 2010 11:21 AM

    I have not been a fan of Ginn as a #1 receiver, but with the acquisition of Marshall, Ginn just got alot better. The pressure to be #1 is no longer there, learning from Marshall how to be aggressive, and lastly this allows him to focus more on kick returns and deep routes. I say keep Ginn!
    Oh, and by the way, the Phins secondary just got alot better as well. Now Sean Smith and Vontae get to practice against Marshall day in and day out. Next time they line up against anyone other than maybe Andre Johnson, gonna feel like a walk in the park.

  31. AlanSaysYo says: Apr 14, 2010 11:21 AM

    Oh, but you all forget: Miami didn’t just draft Ted Ginn. They drafted the whole Ginn family! That’s got to be worth a fourth rounder!

  32. aec4 says: Apr 14, 2010 11:21 AM

    let’s see.. I can get Santonio friggen Holmes for a 5th… nah, let me get GINN. Yeah, that makes sense.

  33. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Apr 14, 2010 11:26 AM

    just put him on PR and KR and he’ll be fine

  34. DB26 says: Apr 14, 2010 11:29 AM

    Cleveland should grab him and convert him to CB. He played DB in HS and was very good at it!

  35. marinofreakout says: Apr 14, 2010 11:33 AM

    keep ginn see how he produces with marshall on the field. if he doesnt do anything trade him next year. its not like were gonna make anything out of the guy we get for him (5th or 6th pick) in a trade this year

  36. tombrookshire says: Apr 14, 2010 11:36 AM

    I would trade a stale box of Oreos for him.

  37. FinFanRod says: Apr 14, 2010 11:38 AM

    Keep Ginn, draft Bryant, and drive all opponents crazy! Ok, NOT going to happen but sounded fun for a minute.
    I love the Marshall trade for Miami. If they can trade down in the first and get back that second rounder it would be fantastic. I think this draft just went all defense other than a TE and/or OL.

  38. Levon Alexander says: Apr 14, 2010 11:40 AM

    My Niners will be glad to have him….just in case we can’t draft C.J. Spiller to fill in our special team needs.

  39. Bob says: Apr 14, 2010 11:41 AM

    As a Dol-fan I am so glad to see Ginn on the way out. What an over rated bag of nothing he has been. Hey Marshall – welcome to Miami.

  40. Burnum says: Apr 14, 2010 11:43 AM

    If you can’t get something good in return, just keep him around. He’s your best return man and he can be a thread as an occassional deep thread. He’s a solid #3 WR and a good KR, but nothing more. I would rather trade Camarillo than Ginn because of his unique skill set (speed and running out of bounds).

  41. BRUTUS9448 says: Apr 14, 2010 11:46 AM

    I hope Parcells doesn’t let Ginn go for a 5th. He beat the JEts twice last year by himself and he’s really fast. With Marshall there he could even be better. Please at least a 4th for ginn

  42. dolfanSS says: Apr 14, 2010 11:49 AM

    Keep Ginn! I think he could flourish with the attention Marshall is going to draw. Only saw 1 WR run right past Darelle Revis last year, it was Teddy Ginn. Turner seems like a wasted pick, part ways with him. This way you have your physical #1 WR, burner, slot guy and a couple of possession guys.

  43. robert ethan says: Apr 14, 2010 11:53 AM

    I’d bet the Steelers are interested. He would be an obvious replacement for Holmes. At OSU I think that Ginn was widely regarded as the more dangerous of the two.

  44. bleedpurple says: Apr 14, 2010 11:57 AM

    Trade Ginn to vikings for a 6th rd.pick. Use him on returns and use Percy Harvin on offense only.

  45. overkil2 says: Apr 14, 2010 12:01 PM

    Maybe the Raiders will cough up a pick or the Jets should trade for him, that way he won’t beat them twice a year. lol

  46. Dolphinatic says: Apr 14, 2010 12:06 PM

    Thank god… I’m sure we can get a pick outa the Ravens… Considering Cam-moron drafted him.

  47. Spoonman110 says: Apr 14, 2010 12:14 PM

    Ginn to the Bears…you heard it here

  48. jibfest says: Apr 14, 2010 12:17 PM

    Are you still a bust if you shouldn’t have been drafted in the first round?

  49. jollyrob68 says: Apr 14, 2010 12:35 PM

    The Steelers should offer a 6st & 7th and get him know.

  50. E.F.Cuttin says: Apr 14, 2010 12:41 PM

    A few of u get it, cant say the same 4 the rest. Marshall just made Ginn better. Ginn’s 1st 3 years were similar 2 Devery Henderson’s 1st 3 years numberswise,with draft position (Henderson went in rd.2) as the difference. It looks like Tuna is cleaning out all non-Tuna affiliated players anyway so somebody,hopefully SP and the B&G,chalk up a 5th rounder 4 him…or Lance Moore,who seems to be the odd man out here…

  51. finsbooyah says: Apr 14, 2010 12:48 PM

    I am as sick of Ginn as the next Fins fan, but the signing of Marshall may do wonders for him. If no one is willing to part with a 4th or better, we might as well keep him.

  52. Macadamia says: Apr 14, 2010 12:58 PM

    Whether or not Cam Cameron is still in love with Jr. is irrelevant. Why would the Ravens give up one of their remaining five picks this year or even one next year for a guy that is probably going to be cut?

  53. PackManFanEver says: Apr 14, 2010 1:01 PM

    Theee Ohio State still sucks….

  54. Cullen says: Apr 14, 2010 1:27 PM

    Ginny would be a perfect fit in Cincinnati, where they are in need of a speed receiver. I would think the Bengals would be willing to give up a 5th or 6th rounder for him. That woul allow the Bengals to focus on Safety, Oline, and TE!,,

  55. Stuart Scotts left eye says: Apr 14, 2010 1:45 PM

    with the vertical threats that Norv has then Ginn could fit right in in SD. The problem is he works in space and is not much of a slot guy. He would have to compete for the slot for playing time. If not he could be a change of pace guy subbing for VJ or Floyd.

  56. GoBrowns19 says: Apr 14, 2010 1:49 PM

    Bring him back home to Cleveland. Not just for the hometown hero status, but also that we NEED a vertical threat. Massaquoi and Robiskie will be fine possession guys and only be better with a threat like Ginn.

  57. RaiderDave says: Apr 14, 2010 1:54 PM

    Vertical speed? Al Davis would give up a 1st round pick for that…

  58. JaredSlansky says: Apr 14, 2010 2:46 PM

    The TUNA knows what he’s doing… He has a ligit #1 and a bunch of complimentary role recivers… Last year the Dolphins would mix and match depending on what they were trying to accomplish but could only threaten in certin ways… Now the fish can mix Marshall with a deep threat (Ginn), a Slot Bess, crafty possession guys (Heartline, Camarillo)… It becomes like basketball… Studs allow role players to be more efficient… Why would the TUNA trade Ginn Now for nothing… He isn’t expensive, and his value is as low as it gets… TUNA has one year to find a role for Ginn or better yet increase his value…

  59. chimi says: Apr 14, 2010 5:39 PM

    TED GINN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE ODD MAN OUT. HAS NO FOOTBALL INSTINCTS!!! BUTTERFINGERS!

  60. promichael says: Apr 14, 2010 9:41 PM

    Rosenthal there is no misnomer with Brandon Marshall. He is a receiver that you do not compare to most in the league. He’s big and fast……One who can stretch the field but also use his speed, size etc. to create separation, catch and then run for yards. It just may play out that Ted Ginn will benefit because he will not get double coverage anymore. Ginn’s burning straight ahead speed could work out for the Dolphins with he and Marshall on the field at the same time.

  61. Karlos Long 5877 says: Apr 15, 2010 2:03 PM

    All you idiots that think Miami would trade Ted Ginn for a 5th or 6th rounder need to go elsewhere

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