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Roethlisberger does not face bonus forfeiture unless he holds out or retires

John Clayton of ESPN has been mentioning throughout Thursday evening that, if Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger commits another misstep, the team could attempt to recover $12.8 million in signing bonus money.  We need to disagree, and we’ll try to do it as respectfully as possible.

For a change.

Under the Collective Bargaining Agreement that applied prior to March 2006, signing bonus money could be recovered in the event of a suspension, if the player’s contract contained appropriate forfeiture language.  Most recently, former Lions receiver Charles Rogers was ordered to pay the team $6.1 million in signing bonus money earned in 2003, due to a drug-related suspension.

In April 2009, new language regarding signing bonus forfeitures was interpreted for the first time by Special Master Richard Burbank, in conjunction with a grievance filed by the Giants against former receiver Plaxico Burress to recover a portion of his bonus money after being suspended following his firing of a bullet through his leg in November 2008.  Burbank unexpectedly found that Article XIV, Section 9 of the CBA, which permits partial recovery of signing bonus money, applies only where the player holds
out or retires

As we wrote at the time, “In other words, getting suspended for conduct detrimental to the team or
for violating league policies doesn’t trigger a signing bonus
forfeiture.  Likewise, any injury suffered by a player engaged
intentionally in unsafe off-field activities won’t trigger a forfeiture,
either.”

Bottom line?  The Steelers can recover bonus money from Roethlisberger only if he holds out or retires.  For a suspension or any other misconduct, the money he already has received cannot be touched.

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41 Responses to “Roethlisberger does not face bonus forfeiture unless he holds out or retires”
  1. Garbage Pail Kid says: Apr 15, 2010 9:03 PM

    What about if…sorry…WHEN, he rapes again?

  2. ItalianArmyGuy says: Apr 15, 2010 9:08 PM

    @Florio – What? No mention that a girl with “Down to F***” on her armband who was 3 times the legal limit said she thought he might have walked down the hall with his thingey hanging out??
    Stay classy! You are awesome Florio!

  3. last starfighter says: Apr 15, 2010 9:13 PM

    rapist

  4. 7SuperBowlsRUS says: Apr 15, 2010 9:13 PM

    I’m afraid it only takes ONE team to step up now and say we will give 3-4 first rounders for Ben plus a player or two and a few more picks!!
    Things are getting crazier and crazier! I never thought I would see thing spiral like they are now!! Jay Cutler was taken for 2 first rounders.. Ben at least has to go for 3 or 4!! at least!!

  5. drumbug71 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:15 PM

    4 out of the 11 recent posts have been about Roethlisberger.
    Most of the remaining 7 have some potshot (like the Carson Palmer post) at Ben.
    At what point should Florio just let it go and focus on everything — anything — else going on in the NFL?
    If the PFT site goes down, it’s because Florio was drooling at all the Roethlisberger news and fried his hard drive.

  6. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:16 PM

    How can anyone be talking about money? Seriously. Did you read the police reports? And who the hell can read those reports and say, “OK, so you raped somebody… we’re going to suspend you a few games, but don’t do it again!!”
    Pissburgh Squealers and Rapistberger will go down in flames together. This isn’t going away, folks. The sh*tstorm of bad PR hasn’t even started yet. But it will, and Squealer fans can look forward to a lifetime of getting crap about their RAPIST QB.
    NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR STUPID RINGS, YOU LOWLIFE SCUMBAGS. Now go hug your RAPIST and pretend to be persecuted.

  7. BuckFigBen says: Apr 15, 2010 9:18 PM

    12.8 million will pay for at last 20 more rapes.

  8. robert ethan says: Apr 15, 2010 9:22 PM

    How about if he crawls into a hole under a rock and refuses to come out? Is there any language to cover that?

  9. 7SuperBowlsRUS says: Apr 15, 2010 9:24 PM

    If the Steelers TRADE Big ben they should sign Bulger immediately and carry Dixon for a while longer! I would say no more than 3-4 First Rounders for Big Ben!! Give Everyone a New start if it comes to it and call it a day!! That 7th Super Bowl will come soon enough!! I believe!!

  10. Mean D says: Apr 15, 2010 9:25 PM

    He raped her.

  11. SixburghSteelers says: Apr 15, 2010 9:30 PM

    That Leigh Steinberg is one helluva agent… *smirk*

  12. JaggedMark says: Apr 15, 2010 9:35 PM

    What do you disagree with?
    Clayton said they could “attempt” to.
    Of course, they could attempt to.
    Are you sure you have a law degree?

  13. BillsFan27 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:36 PM

    F*** that F***ing scumbag.

  14. nfcbeast says: Apr 15, 2010 9:38 PM

    he should donate it to that chicks now filthy lady parts

  15. 7SuperBowlsRUS says: Apr 15, 2010 9:40 PM

    Steelers SIGN BULGER QUICK!!
    GIVE HIM AN O-LINE WHICH HE NEVER HAD in the Rams and I could see Pittsburgh being above average!!

  16. robert ethan says: Apr 15, 2010 9:41 PM

    Maybe the girl chose not to proceed with the complaint because she was afraid it would open her up to bestiality charges.

  17. robert ethan says: Apr 15, 2010 9:49 PM

    I hope it doesn’t open her up to bullying at school.
    I can still hear the cruel taunts of my classmates…
    “Ha ha, you f***ed a fat pig, ha ha you f****ed a fat pig!”.

  18. UckTheFeagles says: Apr 15, 2010 9:53 PM

    He’s gonna need that money to pay off the next one he rapes.

  19. Lammy5555 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:08 PM

    As a Steelers fan, I really hope they get rid of him, this is getting out of control.

  20. Beezer says: Apr 15, 2010 10:19 PM

    Well that’s good he can still afford to hire bouncers who carry drunk girls who are passed out into the bathroom so he can have sex with them. If he never does this again it does not change the fact that he is a horrible human being for actually doing these acts. Seriously what type of person does these acts? I hope that if Roethlisberger stays out of bars and out of trouble ESPN or any other network doesn’t do an inspirational piece on what a great person Ben is now and how he changed.

  21. queenie says: Apr 15, 2010 10:20 PM

    Hey Haters are you all really this gullible?
    Did anyone even read the DA’s statements and the post statement question/answer and how they make a bad situation look worse for the accuser? Oh that’s right you all prefer to not let pesky things like facts and the truth get in the way of your witchhunt for Big Ben!
    I mean JFC since you all are incapable of finding these things on your own here’s the link:
    http://nationalsportsreview.com/sports/us/d-wil/2010/04/12/da-fred-bright-transcript-plus-the-post-statement-interview/
    Read it and weep!
    GO STEELERS!

  22. DanRooney says: Apr 15, 2010 10:26 PM

    ECS – Brougham Boys 74
    We have 6 Super Bowl rings. Most in the NFL! lolz. Your team sux. Ben has 2 by raping your team over and over! :)

  23. Deb_aka_bens_lawyer says: Apr 15, 2010 10:27 PM

    Ben Roethlisberger is king! I am his puppet! Any Steeler who commits a crime, gimme a call!
    – Deb
    PS. If Osama Bin Laden wore black and gold, I will defen him!!!

  24. rjgreen3 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:29 PM

    that’s a good thing because he will need that money when he rapes/pays off the next woman

  25. The Real Shuxion says: Apr 15, 2010 10:29 PM

    # robert ethan says: April 15, 2010 9:41 PM
    Maybe the girl chose not to proceed with the complaint because she was afraid it would open her up to bestiality charges.
    # robert ethan says: April 15, 2010 9:49 PM
    I hope it doesn’t open her up to bullying at school.
    I can still hear the cruel taunts of my classmates…
    “Ha ha, you f***ed a fat pig, ha ha you f****ed a fat pig!”.
    ——————————————————
    Damn man. Taking out the big guns.

  26. steelerscanadaluke says: Apr 15, 2010 10:30 PM

    Keep talking Browns and Bills fans, we’ll listen when you have more than 6 wins in a year.

  27. wgw27 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:35 PM

    After reading the police report, which makes it look like she was kidnapped and raped, why wouldn’t the DA prosecute – the women said something happened so it must have……..wait for it…….wait for it……. Because these are statements from the woman and her friends which according to the DA told different stories each time they told it.
    I have three girls and there is no way in hell I would tell the DA to drop this case if I thought my daughter was raped – there is no amount of money. And besides if you take hush money, all that makes you is a whore.

  28. .RebaT says: Apr 15, 2010 10:45 PM

    How much of that 6+ million do you think he has in the first place? NOT MUCH! It all went into buying shots for girls and paying off police officers.

  29. DanRooney says: Apr 15, 2010 10:47 PM

    Ben is a victim of an ugly retard and a money hungry whore. Poor guy.
    Peyton Manning is the real rapist. He actually got charged in his pleasure endeavor.

  30. xacvol says: Apr 15, 2010 11:10 PM

    I love crepes…oh. Nevermind.

  31. steveinohio says: Apr 15, 2010 11:29 PM

    wow. I just read the DA’s report. I didn’t know rape was only a real crime if you had DNA. I guess rape has only been around for about 20 years or so. I am glad to hear that the DA would treat a white millionaire the same as a minority from the projects.
    I didn’t see the DA in those “best buddy” photos Ben took with the cops at the crime scene. He must have been cut out of the picture. I gotta beleive after reading that dribble, he was on his knees.

  32. it's all bs says: Apr 15, 2010 11:38 PM

    DanRooney says:
    April 15, 2010 10:26 PM
    ECS – Brougham Boys 74
    We have 6 Super Bowl rings. Most in the NFL! lolz. Your team sux. Ben has 2 by raping your team over and over! :)
    _________________________
    Man that is cold but oh so true!
    GO STEELERS….as we laugh all the way to #7 while all the haters get their panties in a bunch!

  33. bigstorm says: Apr 15, 2010 11:49 PM

    robert ethan/realsuction(nice name fag)
    to quote Santonio Holmes….go killurself.
    you two twats easily and most inane and stupid comments on every Big Ben blog. I never hear you make any comments of who you cheer for which means you are embarassed which means you are a couple of Browns fan.
    you are wastese of skin. you are the loads that your mother’s should have swallowed.
    go back into your parent’s basements and stay there.

  34. steveinohio says: Apr 15, 2010 11:52 PM

    RE: “I am his puppet! Any Steeler who commits a crime, gimme a call!
    – Deb
    PS. If Osama Bin Laden wore black and gold, I will defen him!!!”
    Wow.
    Female steelers fan who not only loves crimes on women but also supports mass murder.
    I bet she’s pretty hot…5’3″ ish…280lbs-aliciuos…13 maybe 15 teeth…you know, typical Steeler broad.

  35. 90ragtop says: Apr 16, 2010 12:40 AM

    Keep talking Browns and Bills fans, we’ll listen when you have more than 6 wins in a year.
    ********************
    And we’ll listen to you when–with your playoff hopes on the line–the Squealers can beat the Browns.

  36. DoctorK says: Apr 16, 2010 6:30 AM

    It’s extremely disturbing to me–and a great number of Steelers fans, it appears–that Roethlisberger continues to conduct himself in this manner. If you have any regard for women at all, whether it’s a mother, wife, girlfriend, daughter or simply in general, how can you not be disturbed by this particular incident?
    It’s even more disturbing that two “bodyguards”–off duty police officers no less–acted as pimp goons in this manner. They grabbed the girl and took her to the private room. They refused to allow friends to intervene. They refused to answer questions.What a great representation of “law enforcement” for our region.
    Rooney failed to satisfactorily answer why Holmes was given away and Roethlisberger, who undoubtedly assaulted this woman, is allowed to “win back his team.” How can this situation be called even handed?
    At the end of the day, I am a fan of the Steelers football team–on the field. But when it comes to the real world, it’s clear that individuals like Ben are human trash.
    I just want to live long enough to see a young woman’s dad or boyfriend come into the picture to exact real justice—a broken leg here, some fractured skulls there–to people like Ben and his “bodyguards.”

  37. steelerscanadaluke says: Apr 16, 2010 9:00 AM

    And we’ll listen to you when–with your playoff hopes on the line–the Squealers can beat the Browns.
    We’ll listen when you ever have a game with playoff hopes on the line. Has that ever happened?

  38. Kevin from Philly says: Apr 16, 2010 9:07 AM

    Ironically, if Ben had “held out” in Georgia, he wouldn’t have to worry about his signing bonus.

  39. Drat says: Apr 16, 2010 9:15 AM

    Why would Ben retire? What reason? Just to be a roaming millionaire flurging 20-yr-olds in stinking bar bathrooms?
    Hmmm, OK, maybe that is his career path.

  40. MasterShake says: Apr 16, 2010 6:15 PM

    He may not hold out or retire but does he pull out. There’s just something not right about all of this crap that’s going on. Florio needs to do some due diligence (sp) on this matter. Is this guy a sociopath and rapist or someone that happens to be in the wrong place (small bathroom) at the wrong time.

  41. MasterShake says: Apr 17, 2010 2:36 PM

    Roethlisberger and hold-out should never be used together.

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