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Witness statements make bad situation worse for Roethlisberger

Now that the criminal investigation in Milledgeville, Georgia has ended, police have released 572 pages of records relating to the alleged events of the night of March 4 and the early morning of March 5.

The documents contain among other things the statements of the alleged victim and her friends.  And it’s not pretty, primarily since the documents paint the clearest picture yet of the behavior, legal or not, in which Roethlisberger was engaged on the evening in question.

From The Smoking Gun, here’s the relevant portion of the alleged victim’s detailed statement, which was given the morning after the alleged incident: 

“Ben asked us to go to his ‘VIP’ area. . . .  We all went with him.  He said there were shots for us, numerous shots were on the bar, and he told us to take them.  His bodyguard came and took my arm and said come with me, he escorted me into a side door/hallway, and sat me on a stool.  He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants.  I told him it wasn’t OK, no, we don’t need to do this and I proceeded to get up and try to leave.  I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom.  He followed me into the bathroom and shut the door behind him.  I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me.  He said it was OK.  He then left without saying anything.  I went out of the hallway/door to the side where I saw my friends.  We left [the club] and went to the first police car we saw.”

As it turns out, the alleged victim gave two handwritten statements.  The statement given after the passage of time is neat and legible.  The earlier one is hard to read, since it was written while the alleged victim was still intoxicated.  Here’s part of what it said:

“His bodyguards took him back to the rooms w/bathroom and I said, ‘I don’t know if this is a good idea’ and he said ‘it’s OK.’  He has sex w/me and meanwhile his bodyguards told me friends they couldn’t pass them to get to me.  My friends found me & talked to a Milledgeville policeman and he said to report it.”

During his Monday press conference, district attorney Fred Bright mentioned the sketchy initial statement followed by the more detailed second statement.  He also pointed out that, at the hospital, the alleged victim said, “A boy kind of raped me.”  Moreover, the officer who received the initial complaint wrote that the alleged victim’s recollection was “foggy from to [sic] her intoxication level.”

The inconsistencies in her statements and her intoxication create fertile ground for “reasonable doubt.”  Though this gives rise to an unfortunate reality that women who are intoxicated will have difficulty obtaining justice if raped, the fact remains that our legal system employs a high standard of proof in order to ensure that innocent men are not wrongfully imprisoned (notwithstanding all of the supposedly innocent men who already are in prison). 

Meanwhile, we detected a strong degree of consistency and credibility regarding the statements from the alleged victim’s friends, who nevertheless could contribute only circumstantial evidence to the investigation, since no one saw the exchange between Roethlisberger and the alleged victim.  For example, Ann Marie Lubatti said that she saw Roethlisberger’s bodyguards guide the alleged victim to a side door, and that two minutes later she saw Roethlisberger walk back there.  “I immediately went up to the other bodyguard and said, ‘this isn’t right,'” Lubatti said in her statement.  “‘My friend is back there with Ben.  She needs to come back right now.’  The bodyguard wouldn’t look at me, he just said, ‘I don’t know what you are talking about.'”

Lubatti wrote that she saw Nicole Biancofiore approach the manager of the nightclub, and that Biancofiore told him to unlock the door to the hallway.  The manager said, “Ben’s an NFL quarterback, he won’t do anything to ruin his reputation.”

Lubatti also corroborates the allegation from the alleged victim’s legible statement regarding Roethlisbergers “penis already out of his pants.”

Nicole Biancofiore’s statement corroborates much of Lubatti’s, but does not mention the remark about Roethlisberger exposing himself upon entering the room. 

So while Bright concluded that he could not obtain a conviction (he said Monday at his press conference that he didn’t believe there was even probable cause to arrest), Bright echoed on Monday the opinions of many regarding the evening in question.

“It is unclear, it is foggy, what exactly happened in that bathroom,” Bright said, “but
if I was there coaching him I’d say, ‘Ben, you don’t need to do this.  You don’t need to put yourself in a position where you’re alone in this
dingy bathroom with you and this girl.  That’s foolish.  Grow up.  You need
to be a role model.  You need to be a role model for your team, your
city, the NFL.  You can do better.’  And I hope he’s learned something
from this.  I really do.”

It’s unclear whether he has.  After the Commissioner and/or the Rooneys impose their discipline, it’s far more likely that he will.

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359 Responses to “Witness statements make bad situation worse for Roethlisberger”
  1. irishgary says: Apr 15, 2010 7:44 PM

    1) Ben is obvioulsy a trashy drunk and a very stupid drunk, his actions are inexcusable.
    On the other hand why in the hell did this idiot girl not press charges. Sorry if what she said is true, she should have pressed charges.

  2. downwithdansnyder says: Apr 15, 2010 7:46 PM

    Trade him to the Raiders. That would be worse than jail. And can you imagine the trouble this idiot would get into on the West coast?

  3. gyldenlove says: Apr 15, 2010 7:48 PM

    Maybe Georgia is a bit too backwater for this sort of law, but in most civilized places an intoxicated individual can not give legal consent so any sexual contact would be statutory rape, in this case it sounds like that would have been easy to prove given both the initial statement and the police officers report.

  4. Ammo says: Apr 15, 2010 7:48 PM

    In my non-expert opinion, he did it. And got away with it due to his celebrity.

  5. Apetits says: Apr 15, 2010 7:49 PM

    Que Deb and her “they were just bein’ stupid” defense….

  6. Contra says: Apr 15, 2010 7:50 PM

    WOW! UNBELIEVABLE! This is the face of the Steelers!??!?! BEN ROESTLISBERGER IS PURE TRASH!

  7. Garbage Pail Kid says: Apr 15, 2010 7:50 PM

    Wow! Dont know what else to say. Must be difficult to prove sexual assault going against the best lawyers money can buy. JUSTICE DENIED!

  8. Poo Flinging Monkey says: Apr 15, 2010 7:50 PM

    I don’t think Rapenstein will be getting any new endorsement deals any time soon.
    Also, cue the Benablers…

  9. Evpimp says: Apr 15, 2010 7:50 PM

    Send this turd to Jail and never let him out!!

  10. robert ethan says: Apr 15, 2010 7:51 PM

    But Blash, the senior officer who took the original complaint DID NOT NAME ROETHISBERGER despite being told who he was by the girls. He was seen in more than one photo being cradled under Ben’s right arm. After the complaint was made he was overheard MAKING DEROGATORY COMMENTS ABOUT THE GIRL to Roethlisberger.
    He was confined to desk duty since the incident and yesterday RESIGNED from the Milledgeville PD. So how accurate was his recording of the initial complaint? That is a HUGE question.
    Blash is out of law enforcement but the TWO PENNSYLVANIA COPS Bavachhio and Joyner who enabled and assisted the assault remain on duty.

  11. Pinoy31AP says: Apr 15, 2010 7:51 PM

    Ben needs to be suspended for more than the 2 games that all the media is saying he will be suspended for….

  12. Bill.Polian says: Apr 15, 2010 7:51 PM

    How is Rapistberger not in prison right now? The legal system in this country is a huge joke.

  13. Tobias Fünke says: Apr 15, 2010 7:52 PM

    It’s funny how his nickname is Ben Rapistburger because how he is a rapist.

  14. Garbage Pail Kid says: Apr 15, 2010 7:52 PM

    I wonder if he lied to the Commish and the Rooneys about what happened.

  15. The Wishbone says: Apr 15, 2010 7:53 PM

    “After the Commissioner and/or the Rooneys impose their discipline, it’s far more likely that he will.”
    Really? You think missing a couple of games is gonna change a guy who did this while already involved in a lawsuit over sexual assault allegations? You’re insanely naive.
    If he was gonna change, he’d have changed last year. He’ll just get better at covering it up.

  16. 305phinphan says: Apr 15, 2010 7:53 PM

    What a POS and yet the system fails to lock this scumbag away. The first time he was accused I took Ben’s side because I’m sure there are women out there that are trying to get a quick payday but to have it happen a second time and the story sounds pretty straight forward and the fact she went straight to the police afterwords makes me question Ben.
    It’s nice to know that with money and fame you can go anywhere and rape any woman you want to with no repercussions. SO what he might get suspended for a couple of games and loose some money but this girl has to live with the fact of being raped. I hope one day the truth comes out and Big Ben get’s to meet Big Bubba and see first hand what it’s like to be forced to have sex.
    Ben you are scum, do the world a favor and go buy another motorcycle and finish the job this time!

  17. Sock_Puppet says: Apr 15, 2010 7:53 PM

    Hangin with his wang. Seriously?

  18. GaryClark says: Apr 15, 2010 7:53 PM

    Raper….Oooooppppsssss….I meant Rapper…I am listening to Snoop…I would still have him as the Skins back up

  19. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Apr 15, 2010 7:54 PM

    After these documents have been released, there is only one choice for Art Rooney to make.
    If Roethlisberger is still employed by the Steelers a week from today, then Rooney has acknowledged and condoned that his QB is a rapist. No sane person can read those documents and walk away believing anything else.
    The Steelers have hit a new low. No franchise can employ this guy and expect to avoid the inevitable onslaught of bad PR that is just about to begin. Rooney’s lack of action NOW speaks volumes. Forget about “class.” The Steelers just put themselves in a class of their own, lower than anything Al Davis could hope to imagine.

  20. daveomcd says: Apr 15, 2010 7:54 PM

    Wow, sounds like this is way worse than I thought… if he is only held out for 4 or less weeks I’ll be disappointed. What a jerk. Wish he was thrown out of the NFL. Makes you wonder how true the previous claims were…

  21. clemenza says: Apr 15, 2010 7:55 PM

    rumor has it Ben was looking to score a blumpkin’ in that bathroom……he got the idea from Gene Simmons from the rock band Kiss

  22. Dixon29 says: Apr 15, 2010 7:55 PM

    Can’t wait for all the Steeler fans who will respond “You all are just hating on the greatest team…”
    Shut the F up.
    Ben is a pig, plain and simple. The justice system is doing an injustice to women by letting this P.O.S. off the hook.

  23. beefandpork says: Apr 15, 2010 7:55 PM

    I like his style.

  24. TheDPR says: Apr 15, 2010 7:55 PM

    Who gives a rat’s ass what Ben has learned from this? He’s a piece of crap rapist. Where’s the concern for the victim?

  25. Goldhooka says: Apr 15, 2010 7:56 PM

    Watch, big Ben’s traded to the rams for the first overall pick and they get sammy boy… yuck, frickin’ squeelers are going to come out on top some how with all this crap Ben has created.

  26. teke184 says: Apr 15, 2010 7:56 PM

    Wow… what an idiot.
    Next time, just order a call girl. They get paid to go home afterward and not to talk to anyone about you.

  27. blitzburgh1 says: Apr 15, 2010 7:56 PM

    And how drunk were the witnesses?

  28. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Apr 15, 2010 7:57 PM

    Roethlisberger = RAPIST.
    Steelers = SCUM.
    Rooney = accomplice by lack of action.
    It will be a LONG time before the Steelers’ reputation recovers, and it’s getting longer each day that they fail to do anything about this terribly ugly situation.

  29. CookieFlash says: Apr 15, 2010 7:57 PM

    Big Ben letting “Little Ben” try to make a play out of the pocket…..priceless.

  30. jm0205 says: Apr 15, 2010 7:58 PM

    You probably should have left the girls’ names out of this.. I’m sure they’ll be harassed on facebook/myspace..

  31. Huckle says: Apr 15, 2010 7:59 PM

    As long as the Steelers keep him, they will always be tainted. They will always look into the seats at any away game and see “Rapistberger” signs. This will never go away for him, and, as long as they keep him, the Steelers as a whole.
    Get Jeff Garcia to help Dixon out for a year. Ben is good because of his team, not the other way around. He’s not Manning, Brees or Brady. Just get rid of him.
    Michael Jackson had to die to stop being seen as a pedophile, and OJ Simpson had to go to prison to stop being heralded as a murderer.
    Ben has a fetish for girls who say no, and always will.

  32. Rex Grossman says: Apr 15, 2010 8:00 PM

    here we go

  33. Booyah says: Apr 15, 2010 8:00 PM

    Send this piece of trash where he belongs. Oakland!

  34. snnyjcbs says: Apr 15, 2010 8:00 PM

    Foggy my ass, this 20 year old girl, oh ya you call her a women forgive me. Had a guy with x-cop thugs as body guards to help him assault this kid fresh out of High School.
    We deal with PUNKS like these here in Vegas and we deal with them hard. No 911 saved by the bell for these punks that think they can come in and do what ever they want because they have a buck or can bounce a ball.
    If only the desert could speak, the stories that it would be able to tell. You want justice you take it and forget calling in the clean up crew. These punks only hold power because of most of the people they harm try and do the right thing and follow the rules and ask for help.
    The minute they run into a person that deals out their own justice and take care of their own problems they lose what ever advantage they thought they held because of who they are. When in doubt knock them out.

  35. Bwa Ha Ha says: Apr 15, 2010 8:00 PM

    He is a predator

  36. joswald says: Apr 15, 2010 8:01 PM

    It’s just a matter of time…7 days to be exact.
    joswald says:
    April 15, 2010 6:42 PM
    Bulger has already been contacted and told to sit tight until next Thursday. That’s when the Steelers will offer him the offer that has already been agreed to verbally. Then the Steelers make the move. Stay tuned…
    joswald says:
    April 13, 2010 8:12 PM
    Oh yes…and when they deal Ben for the Rams 2nd this year and their 2nd next year, Mark Bulger will be the Steelers starting QB this season. Bulger will be signed by the Steelers before the draft.

  37. Big J says: Apr 15, 2010 8:01 PM

    How can the Steelers keep this guy? UFB!

  38. PatricktheDookie says: Apr 15, 2010 8:01 PM

    All right. I’m one of the last ones to jump on the bandwagon, but after reading this, I have to say Big Ben’s reputation has been irreparably harmed.
    He’s never going to get over the rapist moniker. This will become his ultimate legacy as an NFL player.

  39. Hans says: Apr 15, 2010 8:01 PM

    Even though neither one resides (where they belong) in a penitentiary, I hope Ray Ray the Murderer inflicts some prison-yard justice on this arrogant, rapist S.O.B. when the Ravens and Steelers meet up.

  40. Deb says: Apr 15, 2010 8:01 PM

    Ben’s a sleaze–I don’t think that’s in doubt. But the bodyguards told a different story than the drunken sorority sisters.
    I guess spending so much time with rape victims has made me hard-nosed on this subject. None of the victims I’ve known has been ambiguous in her statements. We all knew what happened to us. But then all those rapes involved weapons, violent struggles, adults assaulting children, multiple assailants, druggings. Not one of the cases I’ve known involved a man and woman who’d been, as the DA said, engaged in sexual conversation and conduct all evening disappearing for 10 minutes–according to witness accounts–then the woman saying first that she was not raped then later that she was “kinda” raped. As an adult, you are responsible for choosing to drink to a point where you can’t even be sure you’ve had sex. The DA said there was plenty of blame to go around that night to both of them. To me, this does not equal to the stories of the rape victims I’ve known who had NO control over their situations. Sorry.
    As for Roethlisberger, I’m expecting the Steelers to mete out strong consequences. The sooner, the better.

  41. Raider Pride says: Apr 15, 2010 8:02 PM

    Make me comish for a week…
    I say: No game suspensions next year.
    Let him play all 16 games.
    However, he has to play all 16 games with his penis hanging out of his pants.

  42. Katmanduu says: Apr 15, 2010 8:02 PM

    Ben’s gotta go. It’s time. He needs to to start anew with another team.

  43. INVAIDUH says: Apr 15, 2010 8:03 PM

    Yikes..
    The face of your team Florio.

  44. riddlecleve says: Apr 15, 2010 8:03 PM

    As a Browns fan who hates the Steelers ( but respects them) I kind of stayed neutral on this topic. I actually never disliked Ben because he’s from Ohio…about an hour from my house in Findlay.
    But if this story is true, Ben deserves to get his ass pounded in a jail. Pittsburgh already made a very classy move by cutting Holmes, lets just hope they get rid Ben. Let him learn from his mistakes

  45. Girard says: Apr 15, 2010 8:03 PM

    If only he had jerked his beef instead.

  46. last starfighter says: Apr 15, 2010 8:03 PM

    After seeing him sqeak through legal justice again, as someone with a daughter I would rather see Ben dead than play another down in the league.

  47. pooches says: Apr 15, 2010 8:04 PM

    ben what the hell

  48. CookieFlash says: Apr 15, 2010 8:04 PM

    is it just me or has it been lost in the whole grossness that is Roethlisberger the fact that he was contributing to minors and buying them shots?

  49. thebootguy says: Apr 15, 2010 8:04 PM

    In the case of a felony, I always thought the state could file charges even if the victim said she didn’t want to. I wonder just how much this did cost Big Ben!!! Turned out to be a real pig!!!

  50. 12to85ftw says: Apr 15, 2010 8:04 PM

    “And after that, he was forever known as Ben Rapelisberger….”

  51. BigBear123 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:04 PM

    Haha. Best part was sex with a boy.
    Matter of time till #3 surfaces.

  52. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 8:05 PM

    Nice one sided reporting, Florio. I especially like how you ignore the fact that the accuser was walking around wearing a name tag that read “DTF”, which she explained to Roethlisberger meant “Down to F****.” According to the reports filed by the witnesses, they all got a good chuckle out of this.

  53. darth_vincent says: Apr 15, 2010 8:05 PM

    and aren’t the “bodyguards” off-duty police officers… their careers are trash, this incident and their roles will come up in every trial that they have to give testimony in.

  54. Hooby says: Apr 15, 2010 8:05 PM

    rape is the absolute lowest of low crimes, and by the sound of this, big ben is a rapist and by the transitive, a piece of shit worthy of none of those 102 millions or however much money he “earned”. arrest him and keep him out of the nfl and then pittsburgh can go back to the terrible offense it should be.
    the difference between vick and roethlisberger is that vick has been humbled and changed according to the people who know him. roethlisberger is probly gonna get away with highway rape-erry and keep being the hero of pittsburgh. hey pittsburgh, hows it feel that your hero is a rapist?

  55. ncm42 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:05 PM

    Proof once again that money talks in our system. Had Ben been a poor member of the common folk, this DA would be ready to hand him his ass.

  56. zabam says: Apr 15, 2010 8:05 PM

    There is a lesson to be learned here. If you’re going to rape someone, get them drunk first.

  57. The Real Shuxion says: Apr 15, 2010 8:06 PM

    I thought cops were supposed to PROTECT the public.
    Is this different in Pittsburgh or something?
    Is Pittsburgh like a 1930’s Alabama where Women have no rights?
    I am more disgusted by the cop than by ‘Dongmaster Ben’
    Dongmaster Ben LOL, that one is going on a T-shirt.

  58. Ken West says: Apr 15, 2010 8:06 PM

    WOW, what a rapist.
    Thats really what he is, a rapist, and I will be referring to him as such from now on.

  59. marktg30 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:06 PM

    TRADE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!

  60. PULL&SEAL says: Apr 15, 2010 8:07 PM

    I sure hope the DA that dropped this case sleeps well at night. Wait, of course he will, his mattress and pillows a stuffed full of Rapelisberger’s money.

  61. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 8:07 PM

    Also, you’re accusing two sober, off-duty police officers as being accomplaces to rape. That’s a heavy charge.

  62. dc4545 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:07 PM

    Court of Law: Ben Roethlisberger = +1
    Court of Public Opinion: Ben Roethlisberger = -10,000,000,000,000

  63. se18a29 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:07 PM

    Hope the steelers tank this year with rapistberger…

  64. sniperhare says: Apr 15, 2010 8:07 PM

    @gyldenlove so you’re saying if any girl has a few drinks she can claim rape if she regrets it the next day? That’s absurd.

  65. ItalianArmyGuy says: Apr 15, 2010 8:07 PM

    Let’s review the fact that Ben already has a Daddy, so he didn’t need Andy Taylor to play his Mayberry Daddy on TV for the day. Sheriff Taylor needed to tell the world the results of Barney Fife’s and Gomer Pile’s investigation – impossible to bring criminal charges.
    End of story.
    Reason? Overly wasted sorority girl (with DTF pin – meaning “Down to F***” according to Pittsburgh Tribune Review Story) and her overly wasted sorority sisters told a story that could not be corroborated by anyone else on the scene, including Bar employees, off-duty police, other bar patrons, etc. Her story could not be verified by medics, who could not find enough DNA to have any meaning.
    Time to let Pappa Roethlisberger play Daddy to Ben. Sheriff Taylor needs to back off from playing Daddy, and go see if it’s time to lock up Otis the town drunk again, or go for a moonlight stroll with Ellie Walker.
    Mike Florio needs to stop moralizing as well – you ain’t Ben’s Daddy – he’s already got one. The police record is fairly clear that Big Ben committed the sin of buying shots for drunk college chicks – a crime which half the NFL players could probably be charged with. He should be suspended for wearing a satan t-shirt, and everyone should get back to the business of putting their own lives in order. The dude has got a Daddy – he don’t need more than one.

  66. cowboyssuck says: Apr 15, 2010 8:08 PM

    “You stay classy, Roethlisberger! (putz)”

  67. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: Apr 15, 2010 8:08 PM

    Ben Deviantberger needs psychomological help to cure his insatiable filthmongeritis. The danger to others is escalating first with nutty buddy Andrea McNulty and now this other gal, who knows how many others these last few years.

  68. Uncle Leo says: Apr 15, 2010 8:08 PM

    I certainly hope the amount of money she must have received from the Raper is enough for her to pay for the therapy bills and move forward with her life after Ben & his Goons violated her.

  69. BLancy23 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:09 PM

    Roethlisberger is a complete piece of shit…come on dude…seriously? Your penis hangin out? I bet even his dick has a mullet

  70. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 8:09 PM

    Also, you imply that Lubiatti saw Roethlisberger’s penis, something that’s not in the record.
    Basically, these papers once again show just a he said – she said. She says his penis was out. Ben would say it wasn’t. She bears the burden of proof. You’d probably know that if you were a real attorney.

  71. silverback says: Apr 15, 2010 8:09 PM

    Funny how everyone is publicly convicting a man who there wasn’t even enough evidence to get to trial…
    Has anyone thought about that? Or how about the fact that only the prosecution gets to presents it’s evidence in public? Why can’t Ben present his case in public?
    Maybe the girl grabbed his junk under the table and told him to follow her to the bathroom, then once there she jumped his bones?
    You don’t get to see the other side of the story of the mounds of evidence the defense team dug up.
    All we get to hear is what this scumbag DA releases to the public, a slanted one sided story. Two sides to every story folks, TWO SIDES!!

  72. scrapdawg12 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:10 PM

    The DA said there wasn’t enough DNA to convict him. If they would have pumped her stomach, i’m sure they would of found plenty of evidence.

  73. raiderrob21 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:10 PM

    Ben has ZERO game. Hes a multi millionaire and has to go to the sticks and rape trailer trash. This guy has all the money and should have all the bitches. Thats why he plays for the Steelers. Was he drunk all last year when the Steelers chocked away their season?

  74. Devils Advocate says: Apr 15, 2010 8:11 PM

    all you SEXBURG defenders can go pound sand. this guy is “FN PIG BEN”. absolutley a disgusting waste of a human being.
    you know something I wish all you idiots out here defending the SEXBURGH – i wish that was your daughter he did that to – betcha you would change your GD tune real quick you 2 faced pukes

  75. atolend27 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:12 PM

    so basically, he raped her. if this is true i hope karma is real and he gets whats coming to him.

  76. BigBear123 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:15 PM

    4 game suspension minimum or they are going soft on him.

  77. kosarisking says: Apr 15, 2010 8:15 PM

    If the Steelers are as stand-up as I think they and dump this worthless piece of sh**, I will root for them every Sunday but two each year.

  78. FlorioIsAlwaysWrong says: Apr 15, 2010 8:15 PM

    Congratulations to the Rooney family. They have managed to ruin thier fathers legacy in less then 5 years with the trashy team they have built.
    As for Big Ben, or judging by all the girls reactions and no Kobe Bryant like vaginal wounds maybe its little Ben, you are simply trash. Nothig more you can say other then someday Karma will catch up with Ben and we can all have a good laugh that day.

  79. Cincinnasty says: Apr 15, 2010 8:16 PM

    You forgot to mention that a Milledgville Police Officer that was taking pictures with Ben told the girls it wasn’t a good idea to file a report because Ben has a lot of money and it wouldn’t go anywhere.. This officer resigned Today ! check the TMZ report..

  80. Phyxsius says: Apr 15, 2010 8:16 PM

    The more details that come out, the worse Ben looks. Having one of his goons take the girl to a backroom and then stand guard while he whips it out? He’s a piece of trash.

  81. rjgreen3 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:17 PM

    Vick fights and kills dogs and goes to jail….. Ben rapes women and goes to camp……….PRICELESS!

  82. Beauregard says: Apr 15, 2010 8:17 PM

    I’d rather be guilty with a million dollars than innocent with one dollar. Money talks.
    In the end she was persuaded ($$$) to not press charges. Ben is a scumbag, and the fact no charges were filed does certainly not make him innocent.
    Steeler nut-hangers will continue to attack the girl and call everyone haters. Complete douche-bags.

  83. PFFFFT says: Apr 15, 2010 8:17 PM

    If Ben was a lower-tier NFL player, he’d be cut by now. Probably blacklisted for a year. UFL bound.
    If Ben worked at a job like any of us do, he’d be canned, not to mention jailed.
    And honestly, no one knew just how GROSS Ben turned out to be until these documents came to light.
    He should get the book thrown at him — and the D.A. in Georgia should get the book thrown at him, too.

  84. brownsfn says: Apr 15, 2010 8:18 PM

    What a f*cking SCUMBAG

  85. mikeorclem says: Apr 15, 2010 8:20 PM

    it is not stated but its very likely that the girl was given enough money to refuse to co-operate. i can’t say that a lot of people would do the same thing.

  86. last starfighter says: Apr 15, 2010 8:21 PM

    It’s too bad he survived his motorcycle accident

  87. jdunne says: Apr 15, 2010 8:21 PM

    This is more than a bit disgusting.
    A multi-million dollar celebrity and this is what he has to do to find a sex partner?
    How low class.
    I would have more respect for the guy if he went to a quality hooker.
    What a loser.

  88. julieinduvall says: Apr 15, 2010 8:21 PM

    Maybe I’m the contrarian, but I highly doubt Big Ben will learn anything at all — besides acquiring more “bodyguards” next time around, and he’ll make sure to choose someone whose girlfriends aren’t sober enough to recount what happened as well.
    The supposed “punishment” will not happen, either. The Rooneys and Goodell are banking on the length of time between now and the draft to ensure the furor dies down a bit.
    In the meantime, “no” still means “no,” no matter how drunk any woman is.

  89. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 8:21 PM

    You people are idiots. She could say whatever she wants, and her friends can parrot her. Without corroborating evidence it’s just an accusation. How are things worse for Roethlisberger now that you know exactly what she was making up? She could make up anything. She can prove nothing, even with an immediate medical examination.
    It’s no wonder that Florio left the legal business. Judging from his comments throughout this story he’s proven to be a terrible attorney, but an excellent muckraker.

  90. IStateYourName says: Apr 15, 2010 8:22 PM

    Like the Rooney’s always say – Get them drunk enough and they can’t testify against you.
    What a disgusting, filthy organization the Steelers are.

  91. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 8:23 PM

    —jm0205 says:
    April 15, 2010 7:58 PM
    You probably should have left the girls’ names out of this.. I’m sure they’ll be harassed on facebook/myspace..—
    But it’s A OK to drag the man’s name through the mud, right?

  92. Bwa Ha Ha says: Apr 15, 2010 8:23 PM

    He is a sexual predator.
    They belong in jail.
    This talk about “suspension” is not what the discussion should be

  93. goose08 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:24 PM

    I’m not going to defend the type of person Ben is, because he is a moron. BUT, based on her initial statement it only leads one to believe that what happened in the bathroom was consensual..not rape.

  94. windex666 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:25 PM

    Wow! What a piece of shit. So it is OK to follow girls into the bathroom with your dick out, as long as they are over 18 and drunk?

  95. BBB82 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:25 PM

    Weren’t some of his bodyguards off duty police officers? That’s even more sick that they basically set the situation up for him.
    Sat her on a stool and whipped it out… f’ing disgusting.
    But hey, he’ll miss 2-4 games, and have learned his lesson, right?

  96. Deb_aka_bens_lawyer says: Apr 15, 2010 8:25 PM

    This proves nothing! I’m Ben’s lawyer, Deb, and I’ve had enough of you, Florio! I might sue you! I defend everyone who wears black and gold. If Osama bin Laden was a steeler, I would defend him, no matter how much evidence is against him. Big Ben is a saint! And he’s hot too! Who wouldn’t wantto have sex with him?
    – Deb

  97. ikemac says: Apr 15, 2010 8:26 PM

    I have a daughter and this is a very sickening disgrace. I have a huge problem with this and rite now the picture that sticks in my mind is the one of the recent interview he gave in the locker room, in which his whole disposition had an : I don’t give a f**k experience. This is wrong, the dude needs help and anyone that looks the other way should pray to his/her GOD that they are never blessed to have a daughter!!!!!!
    Thanks Florio for this article it just reminded me to immediately check my local SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY (4 real….all jokes aside) and anyone with a wife, child, mother, grandmother, great grandmother, mother-in-law, should be doing the same!!!!!

  98. LeeB says: Apr 15, 2010 8:27 PM

    How to get away with raping a woman a la Georgia style:
    1. Go to a bar (in the state of Georgia).
    2. Find an intoxicated female.
    3. Have your way with her.
    4. If she complains, admit to sexual contact with her.
    5. Honker down with an attorney and do not talk to the police under any circumstances.
    6. If DNA is requested, so what, you already pre-empted by admitting to sexual contact.
    7. This will turn into a she said/he said fiasco and she will drop the complaint, or at least, the DA will not be able to prosecute.
    This will work. It did in Nevada too (item # 4 is compelling).
    By the way Ben, it took over 10 years but OJ got his.

  99. Deb_aka_bens_lawyer says: Apr 15, 2010 8:28 PM

    Huge lies here! I read the friends alleged statements on deadspin and they said that thegirl was lying!
    – Deb, Lawyer and lapdo of Big Ben

  100. Catamount says: Apr 15, 2010 8:28 PM

    Blitzurgh,
    You are going to defend him? How blinded by football are you? Your QB is a dick and a rapist. If you think the girls are wrong because they were drunk, then you just admitted to thinking public intoxication is worse than pre-meditated rape. If it was your wife or sister, would you ask if she’d been drinking?
    Idiot

  101. odds75to1 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:28 PM

    @irishgary
    She said she didn’t want the media circus – I don’t blame her. She probably wanted it all to go away after it blew up in the media and didn’t want to be sitting there in court while the overpaid high priced lawyers made Ben out to be the victim and her the instigator or w/e they do…and her name/family/friends being drug through the mud along with her.
    @ECS hit the nail on the head there….

  102. The Real Shuxion says: Apr 15, 2010 8:29 PM

    Dixon29 says: April 15, 2010 7:55 PM
    Can’t wait for all the Steeler fans who will respond “You all are just hating on the greatest team…”
    Shut the F up.
    ——————————————————
    Best comment since I started here (2005)

  103. openfieldtackle says: Apr 15, 2010 8:29 PM

    Ben is PROVEN GUILTY of one thing… being in the wrong place.
    There are always two sides to every story and the “college student” witnessed have give their side. There is Ben’s side and probably something in the middle that really happened.
    I have also been in a position with a “willing participant” who changed her mind halfway through out of guilt.
    He has however destroyed his reputation and no longer a valuable 100 ML $$$ leader because some of what was said probably happened and putting himself in this position.
    He had a chance to be a Hall Of Fame QB and blew it!

  104. Deb_aka_bens_lawyer says: Apr 15, 2010 8:31 PM

    Lets not jump to conlcusions about Ben. You don’t know him. I don’t know those girls, but they are lying sluts.
    – Deb the contradiction queen.

  105. jimmys79 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:31 PM

    he will rape 7 more times before being convicted of drunk in public. He’ll be cut but not before becoming hopelessly addicted to heroin and meth. After he sells his rings for low grade freebase from a wesley snipes look alike he will no doubt begin huffing gold spray paint it’s cheaper than everything else but not as cheap as his best pick up line…pants on the ground. he will most likely fade from the limelight and press then overdose with his penis hanging out and an eggplant up his ass…I’m from jersey I’ve seen this a thousand times……..GO Jets!!!!!!!

  106. 1st Lt L Diablo says: Apr 15, 2010 8:32 PM

    I am a Steelers fan (Greg Lloyd was the best LB ever).
    But Ben is a creep. And it’s almost always these Christian, Evangelical types who manifest this kind of behavior. Whenever I hear some redneck talking about god and jesus, blah blah I know they are some kind of a criminal miscreant.
    Or if I see Rev. in front of their name I know to watch out too (don’t even get me started on priests!).
    It’s time we all lost god and started acting like sane, moral people because it’s the sane, moral thing to do, not because some magical invisible unicorn tells us to…
    Rant over….

  107. ☻☼CBS, FOX, ESPN, NFLN nbc says: Apr 15, 2010 8:33 PM

    He still has more SUper Bowl rings than Carson PAlmer so it evens out

  108. jjared1101 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:33 PM

    Unfortunately, this sounds believable.
    With an impending lawsuit on a different sexual assault, wouldn’t you, even if you were innocent, take the woman to your million dollar house, or nice hotel?
    He’s either a rapist or incredibly dumb.

  109. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 8:34 PM

    –Devils Advocate says:
    April 15, 2010 8:11 PM
    all you SEXBURG defenders can go pound sand. this guy is “FN PIG BEN”. absolutley a disgusting waste of a human being.
    you know something I wish all you idiots out here defending the SEXBURGH – i wish that was your daughter he did that to – betcha you would change your GD tune real quick you 2 faced pukes–
    I wish it were you standing there getting falsely accused, with everyone in the media not only accepting the accuser’s side of the story but omitting everything that casts the accuser in a bad light (e.g. her “Down to F***” name tag that she was wearing as she was following Roethlisberger from bar to bar getting hammered). Betcha you would change your GD tune real quick you 2 faced puke.

  110. darth_vincent says: Apr 15, 2010 8:35 PM

    on further thought the Steelers may have a bigger probelm with Ben at the helm… which Referee in the NFL with a daughter is going to give him the benefit of the doubt on any penalty call this year… especially on the late-hits to the groin area that are sure to come.

  111. Crabcake says: Apr 15, 2010 8:36 PM

    ben is a ugly dog! I hope every away game, folks boooooo him for his crimeS against women. You all have mothers, and maybe daughters, sisters, aunts . . .think about it!

  112. RAVNATION says: Apr 15, 2010 8:37 PM

    Deb-
    Where are you now? Make your defense against this…
    The blind leading the blind!

  113. Stuart Scotts left eye says: Apr 15, 2010 8:38 PM

    he’s always been a overrated player, now he’s into raping girls. throw the book at this guy so hard he’ll never recover.

  114. DZskipper says: Apr 15, 2010 8:38 PM

    Another example of the justice system favoring the wealthy.
    Had this accusation been brought against an individual below the poverty line, he would have been arrested on the spot.
    Where are the charges of supplying alcohol to a minor?

  115. The Real Shuxion says: Apr 15, 2010 8:39 PM

    silverback says: April 15, 2010 8:09 PM
    Maybe the girl grabbed his junk under the table and told him to follow her to the bathroom, then once there she jumped his bones?
    ——————————————————
    Hmm you may be right, let’s check the security tape…………….

  116. SaintCharlie72 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:40 PM

    hahaha, “a boy kind of raped me”…you mean a big, stupid, Baby Huey looking retard of a dude? RAPE LIKE A CHAMPION!

  117. raiderrob21 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:41 PM

    If a chick is drunk, slutty, sloppy, talkin dirty, has multiple sex partners, or out to “F” DOES NOT MAKE IT OK TO RAPE HER!
    No means No. Your pathetic Ben. You cant hook up with a chick that isnt trashed? Prepare for the onslaught you will get from all the opposing teams and anti-rape organizations Ben. And this is your second time forcing yourself on someone! your pathetic!

  118. The Real Shuxion says: Apr 15, 2010 8:41 PM

    # last starfighter says: April 15, 2010 8:03 PM
    After seeing him sqeak through legal justice again, as someone with a daughter I would rather see Ben dead than play another down in the league.
    ——————————————————
    From all the stories you hear I would be afraid to send her to college altogether.

  119. stnmmc says: Apr 15, 2010 8:41 PM

    # CookieFlash says: April 15, 2010 8:04 PM
    is it just me or has it been lost in the whole grossness that is Roethlisberger the fact that he was contributing to minors and buying them shots?
    —————————————————
    Can’t speak for GA, but in PA the responsibility for serving underage persons in a bar lies with the establishment, not the patrons. If it is similar in GA then the bar would be the ones on the hook for allowing an underage person in their establishment regardless of how many shots Ben tried to loosen her up with.
    Should be noted that his girl had her fake ID taken away at the same place a few weeks earlier, and if GA law is similar in that the establishment is responsible it could explain the “missing” video if the incident. While losing the video benefited Ben, it certainly kept the owners and bartenders of the establishment off the hook as well.

  120. robert ethan says: Apr 15, 2010 8:43 PM

    In retrospect Bright probably didn’t want to go for a lesser charge and better chance of conviction because he knew what the public reaction would be when this information came out.
    It would be a mosquito biting Ben’s ear while the crocodile of public ridicule was chewing off his legs. Save the county the expense and bother.

  121. Lionwulf says: Apr 15, 2010 8:43 PM

    The victim can not choose to press charges or not. That is mostly a Hollywood idea. The state has the ultimate decision whether or not to press charges. While it is true that the victim can make a recommendation, the D.A.’s office has the ultimate say. This policy stems from domestic abuse cases because most victims were too scared to press charges, now it is mostly out of their hands. This is the policy in most states not all. You never know why this girl made the recommendation to not pursue charges, but I would assume she probably didn’t like all the attention and scrutiny that comes with such a “high profile” star, or “Big Ben” had a Stallworth type deal under the table.

  122. nfcbeast says: Apr 15, 2010 8:44 PM

    Ben has a really hot sister….

  123. B Atkins says: Apr 15, 2010 8:44 PM

    …and after all of this, the cement headed NFL Shittsburg fan would still rather have this POS over Tebow.

  124. Kay23 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:46 PM

    O.k. hold on a minute…..weve all been drunk to the point that we dont recall anything but the witnesses who apparently were not that drunk saw the security guards drag this young lady into the restroom and then stood outside the restroom not letting anybody in and they told the manager and he was no help..so these girls stood around waiting for what exactly? No one could call 911 or cause such a ruckus that everyone in the place knew what was happening?
    This is all a hot,convoluted mess!
    Sidenote: Do we really need to release the witnesses names? you know people nowadays are dumb as hell and just facebooked or tweeted them.

  125. MikeFlorioIsMyBitch says: Apr 15, 2010 8:46 PM

    Sounds like consensual sex to me…….Although she may have been a little rough on Big Ben and/or little ben. She wore a tag that said DTF, which translated means “Down To Fu%k”.
    She wanted, maybe even needed it! BAM!

  126. GirthyOne says: Apr 15, 2010 8:47 PM

    Wow.

  127. it's all bs says: Apr 15, 2010 8:47 PM

    Wow fools read the whole document and ALL the statements before making your stupid statements!
    That girl was drunk out her mind the poor thing and actually believed that a “boy kind of raped me”…..WTF is THAT!
    Something sexual in nature more than likely did happen in that bathroom but that doesn’t mean it was criminal activity folks.
    Like Deb says a chick can go out and get drunk out her mind and willingly go home with someone and then get up the next AM and decide “oh I was raped” and even if the guy is just as drunk as she is it does not matter….BAM it’s rape.
    I really gotta wonder why there was no DNA…I mean clearly if there was rape there would be DNA…no hairs or nothing.

  128. TheWizard says: Apr 15, 2010 8:47 PM

    Whenever I hear some redneck talking about god and jesus, blah blah I know they are some kind of a criminal miscreant.
    I’m not a christian, but pal, that’s just some garbage falling out of your face right there.
    Crawl back under your rock.

  129. johnnydom says: Apr 15, 2010 8:48 PM

    What a piece of shit, jis reputation will never recover. What Tiger did was cheat on his wife, what this dirtbag did was abuse women. He is well known around Shittsburg as an arrogant
    A-Hole and this is proof again that he thinks that he can get away again with his bad behavior and come away all lawyered up and win again.
    This will never o away in the court of punblic opinion he is damaged goods and will always be trash and an abuser to women. Which just so happen to be the biggest segment of NFL fans.
    Better act soon Godell, the clock is ticking, tick tick……

  130. Chapnasty2 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:48 PM

    Wow, just wow. I’m waiting for some Steeler fans to say this isn’t true or something. Kick this scumbag out of the league for good! I’d hate to admit this, but his crime is worse than Vick.

  131. the real deal says: Apr 15, 2010 8:50 PM

    I don’t know, based on the fact Berger has done stupid selfish things in the past, i tend to believe this man is a rapist or forced his way down her pants……
    However, we always have to beware of women who are out there for money…
    Havard studies have recently proven women cheat more, lie more, and love less..
    So, I can not trust either of these people and either way if he is a rapist or she is a liar, it is a copmlete shame…..

  132. beantowndawg says: Apr 15, 2010 8:50 PM

    I’ll put my cards on the table, I’m a Browns fan and I’ve never liked Ben. But this transcends football and is just absolutely disgusting. It’s not that I don’t want this guy on the field, I don’t want him on the streets.

  133. Chapnasty2 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:52 PM

    I love all the Steeler fans on here basically saying it is OK to rape a college girl if she is with a bunch of her friends who also happen to be drunk. You are all saying that just because she was drunk she can’t say that she was raped. Complete bunch of lowlifes you all are.
    He said/She said? Ben was drunk too, why is his story more credible than hers? This is pathetic. Keep showing your class Steeler fans, you may take over Philly fans here soon enough.

  134. cgc1969 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:53 PM

    im am amazed mr. florio, its amazing how youre
    able to obtain such vital info. about the case. i read all the statements, im in such disarray because im a die hard steelers fan. i have never read anything like this. i am a fan of the steelers but the rooneys should trade big ben or get him some serious help hes very lucky to be an innocent man and very fortunate to play football still

  135. yazman of steel says: Apr 15, 2010 8:53 PM

    The girl is a drunken idiot, who lied. Her written statement that night is incoherent scribble. It is obvious she was drunken out of her gourd. She was incapable of providing a accurate account of what happened and, in the absence of physical evidence, anything else is bunk. Ben is not “locked up in prison” because the system worked. It protects the innocent, no matter what you feel about their behavior on a moral basis.
    Here is a list of people accused of / arrested for/ or sued for rape / sexual assault that remained in or where drafted or are currently in the NFL or are in the Hall of Fame
    1) Michael Irvin
    2)Mark Sanchez
    3)Charlie Batch
    4)Marcus Vick
    5)Mark Duper
    6)Rafael Septien
    7)Lance Rentzel
    8)David Meggett
    9)Christian Peter
    Pick up your STONES, get you ROPES, GET EM ALL

  136. Spaz says: Apr 15, 2010 8:53 PM

    Would not be surprised to see Pitt draft a QB….

  137. Sang says: Apr 15, 2010 8:53 PM

    Rapistberger should be locked up

  138. drzud500 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:53 PM

    What a scumbag. And the sad thing is its happened more than once.

  139. art vandelay-rau says: Apr 15, 2010 8:54 PM

    Not a steelers fan(though I loathe the Ravens) I have to say, If PacBen throws up like 3500 yds(depending on how many games he plays)and Pitt wins the SB,,that would kind of,check that, really awesome..Stay classy

  140. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:54 PM

    The Rooney Rule = “It’s okay to RAPE people, as long as you make the Rooney’s some more money.” Yeah, they might slap you on the wrist, but that’s just to appease the public. No really, Art Rooney doesn’t mind if you are a SERIAL RAPIST. Just keep filling those seats.
    STEELERS = SCUM OF THE CENTURY

  141. Bens Attorney says: Apr 15, 2010 8:55 PM

    Meanwhile, we detected a strong degree of consistency and credibility regarding the statements from the alleged victim’s friends
    And also left out of the one-sided story again, These statements were not taken till the next day.
    Think about it people, given that these statements were not taken till the next day and they are simiular, could the reason be that they had time to get thier stories straight. I could just have imagined that conversation ” Well we will help you out if you give us a cut when you sue or get a settlement from him.” I seen that .
    It dont take rocket science to figure that one out .
    And left out was one of her sisters that stated that the Accuser asked Ben and his friends to go back to thier sorority house with them and continue the party there and Ben told them NO that, that was a lawsuit waiting to happen.
    and he left out the statement of the guy that was with Ben, Brad Aurila and he said that he talked to Ben when they arrived at Bens house and asked him what was going on , and Ben told him that him and the girl were messing around and she slipped and fell and he helped her up and he told her she was to drunk and that they were NOT going to continue and he walked.
    If you are going to report it , please be a little less on sided and quit reporting from a bunch of drunk sorority sisters that were all intoxicated, I might add, and had time to sober up and get it together..

  142. Desean Maclin 1018 says: Apr 15, 2010 8:55 PM

    I hope Rapistberger dies in a fire

  143. Garbage Pail Kid says: Apr 15, 2010 8:55 PM

    @Wyoff – Me thinks doth protest too much.

  144. Spaz says: Apr 15, 2010 8:56 PM

    hahaha, “a boy kind of raped me”…you mean a big, stupid, Baby Huey looking retard of a dude? RAPE LIKE A CHAMPION!
    LMFAOLMFAO!!!!!

  145. Rothlestool says: Apr 15, 2010 8:56 PM

    What a tool. It would have been funnier if she starts talking about size.

  146. BourbonAssault says: Apr 15, 2010 8:56 PM

    The shameful thing is we’re talking about the affect this will have on his football career. We’re discussing how many games he should be suspended or if the Steelers should trade him. This is not about what team you pull for. This is beyond football. This is a travesty of justice. He should be standing in front of a jury of his peers deciding his guilt or innocence. His bodyguards should also be facing charges as well as the club for obstruction of justice.

  147. Sasquash says: Apr 15, 2010 8:56 PM

    Are you fags kidding? She said this is not ok, ok isn’t no. In fact if your clearly trying to make a point and stand your ground ok doesn’t work. You kick and scream claw your way out of that situation. Shes full of it and hes a spoiled brat that never hears no on anything probably.

  148. KingJoe! says: Apr 15, 2010 8:56 PM

    Reading this stuff gives me the willies. This sure doesnt sound to me if this the first time this happened, it really sounded as if this was his MO. While he certainly has not been convicted of raping anyone, the first thing that flashes through my head is that this could have been a preplanned organized rape. I hope he eventually gets what he deserves, whatever that may be.

  149. spyboots says: Apr 15, 2010 8:57 PM

    Florio, lynch-mob leader.

  150. Two Parts Rye says: Apr 15, 2010 8:58 PM

    The smoking gun has 30 pages. Where are the other 542 pages?

  151. TryTheVeal says: Apr 15, 2010 8:59 PM

    Fitting behavior for what basically is Human Garbage….

  152. Kitibo says: Apr 15, 2010 8:59 PM

    Ben is quickly joining the ranks of Christian Peters and Lawrence Phillips. I wonder what the enabling media says now. They were predicting 2-4 games before. With this information, it is clear that Ben is a predator, and the victim’s intoxicated condition and reluctance to press charges are the only reasons he is not charged. It will also be interesting to see the race politics start if he only gets 2-4 games, and other players have been suspended for far less than this.

  153. PatsRPerfection says: Apr 15, 2010 9:00 PM

    Big Ben is a POS and a scum bag. That animal should be in prison.

  154. Buck Stallion says: Apr 15, 2010 9:01 PM

    Hey Huckle,
    Who doesn’t think Michael Jackson wasn’t a pedophile!? Just cuz he’s dead doesn’t change what he was.

  155. rockinron says: Apr 15, 2010 9:01 PM

    He not only needs to be in jail, the father of this girl should have his chance alone with Ben in a room. Put me on the jury, I would make sure the father isn’t convicted of anything.

  156. wynterthrone says: Apr 15, 2010 9:02 PM

    Obviously it’s no excuse, but I’m surprised no one is talking about the (what seems to me) very likely reality that Roethlisberger is a bad alcoholic. The countless stories of his shitty behavior, all around drinking. And his weight…you don’t keep a spare tire like that all while being a professional athlete without seriously putting down the sauce. Dude needs help.

  157. Apetits says: Apr 15, 2010 9:04 PM

    Wow. Apparently in Deb’s universe, it isn’t rape unless it involves guns and knives. Guess it’s not enough to be, you know, twice the girl’s size while holding her against her will in the bar’s toilet. I always knew Steeler fans were a special kind of stupid – continually down-playing the acts of this twice-accused-of-rape-in-one-year ignoramus because he’s part of “Steeler Nation” just confirms it.

  158. joebuckiscreepy says: Apr 15, 2010 9:05 PM

    what a scumbag. i love how he got himself a mullet when he went on tv trying to look less rapey.
    the steelers would be retarded not to try and deal him……with all these statements now public, i don’t know if anyone would even give up a 2nd for him.

  159. antalicus says: Apr 15, 2010 9:06 PM

    If he raped her im sure someone would have heard some screaming, even if the club was loud she would have been at least running out screaming and draw attention. The girl was obviously super drunk and probably mumbling no in a maybe tone and let him have sex with her. I am not covering for Ben. Obviously he has real problems if he picks up drunk chicks and bangs them in a back room while his body guards stand guard. I just know how drunk girls around celebrities are. They want to hang out with them and look like high rollers and get free drinks and if they are lucky the a celebrity might look like a person that would do something sketchy, so they try to take them to court and get some money. So a tip for women, stop being groupies and a tip for Ben, stop being a sketchy person.

  160. Stone says: Apr 15, 2010 9:09 PM

    So he’s basically an ugly, retarded oaf that has to get women drunk so he can take advantage of them to get laid? What a loser. What a GIANT f&cking loser. The Steelers should take a page out of the Giants playbook and just release this loser. He needs to go to jail to quit this behavior. I hate Rapistberger.

  161. bengals4real says: Apr 15, 2010 9:10 PM

    All you current and future centers for “gentle ben” Look out heres comes benny with his wang out again…just take it like a man and dont tell anyone sssshhhh!

  162. QB_of_the_Future says: Apr 15, 2010 9:10 PM

    Please Steelers front office…get rid of him.
    Get. Rid. Of. Him.

  163. scooter329 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:10 PM

    Wow, wyoff…how long have you been the head of the Rothlisberger fanclub? If you can read these statements and still think “Big Ben” is a great guy then you truly need to take off your black and gold colored sunglasses. I sincerely hope your daughter never runs into a similar scumbag.
    As far as the people saying the girl must be lying because she doesn’t want to press charges…I don’t blame her…the defense attorneys and idiots like wyoff would make her life miserable while Pig Ben would end up buying his way out.
    BTW, I’m not an anti Steelers fan and previously liked Rothlisberger as a player…I just have basic reasoning skills unlike some of the people on here. Stay classy real Steelers fans…I know most of you don’t support this crap either.

  164. Uncle Leo says: Apr 15, 2010 9:11 PM

    @Deb,
    You don’t know what the hell happened in this case, so why don’t you leave your stories out of it.
    We know you went through hell, and I am sorry it happened.
    However, it does not give you the right to try and be an authority on what happened to this victim.
    Leave your Steeler bias out of it, as you are just losing all credibility.

  165. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:11 PM

    Rapistberger and the Pissburgh Squealers. As in, “Squeal like a pig, city boy! Squeal!! Squeal!!”
    Maybe the Steelers can pay some lawyers to get OJ out of prison and then hire him to handle their PR. That’d be like a match made in heaven!
    Serial rapist, meet murderer. I think you two are going to like each other. Now let’s go f**k up some chicks!!
    I’m starting to think Santonio was traded because he just wasn’t hard enough on his women. You can’t be just beating on em, boy! You gotta RAPE EM to be a Steeler!!

  166. Bens Attorney says: Apr 15, 2010 9:11 PM

    The sad thing in all of this , the hater will believe anything that is printed that puts Ben or the Steelers in a bad light.
    I do not see 2 police officers that were sober , taking a chance of ruining thier careers and yes this could end thier careers just so Ben can get laid.
    The media has made this into a spectical, and a mans name is being ruined while this girl runs around scott free. I have read on other board and out of people that just hate the Steelers and Ben , are starting to see this too. This only makes thier story less believable in my eyes.
    If they would have had sex as she stated and it was unprotected, there would have been more than a minimal amount of DNA, the Dr even stated that he could not say that she was assaulted. I am sorry people but just messing around will cause the injuries that were described by the DA, there does not have to be penetration , but nobody wants to look or here that , Ben is guilty and his money got him off, I read the report.
    One of her friends stated that she did not see them going anywhere and that she said that the Body guard had everything under control, That he was not drinking.
    I believe after reading thier similuar statements, that whatever happened was consensual.
    The only thing that happened was 2 drunks and yes I say 2 because it was reported that they both were drunk. and given the fact that they were only back there 10 minutes by her own friends statement, not much happened.
    Any one can accuse anyone of anything. Is it true. Most of the times not.

  167. turkish91 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:11 PM

    I hope this will knock some of the band wagon Steeler fans off the, uh, band wagon. I’m tired of all their holier-than-thou crap. Not the Steeler fans from Pittsburgh, not the Steeler fans who have been with the team for a long time and have weathered some tough stretches with the team- you guys have my sympathy, because I know this sucks for you. (I’m a fan of an NFC team, BTW) I’m talking about the legion of panty-waists who all of a sudden started wearing Steeler gear about five years ago and act like they know anything about football. I’m talking about the a#@holes who don’t even know who Terry Bradshaw is or who give you a blank look when you say “Chuck Noll”, but swear they LOOOOVE the Steelers. Steeler Nation needs to dump these obnoxious twerps AND Roethlisberger ASAP.

  168. jjcruiser says: Apr 15, 2010 9:12 PM

    Two questions.
    One, why wasn’t he charged with plying underage girls with alcohol? I thought the reports said they weren’t 21? Contributing to the delinquency? Something like that? Doesn’t that exist in Georgia?
    Two, in any of these potential civil suits, if I were their lawyer, I would be subpoena’ing Goodell left and right; as well as Ben’s coach, GM, and owner. Any time he says anything to them it’s not privileged, and I’d imagine that would make them all very annoyed and uncomfortable.

  169. East Bay Ray says: Apr 15, 2010 9:14 PM

    Pants on the ground! Penis hanging out! Looking like a rapist with your pants on the ground!

  170. trickbunny says: Apr 15, 2010 9:14 PM

    Deb says:
    April 15, 2010 8:01 PM
    Ben’s a sleaze–I don’t think that’s in doubt. But the bodyguards told a different story than the drunken sorority sisters.
    ————————————————
    …and that’s where I stopped reading. After all, I’m sure that the bodyguards who are employed by, and get to hang out with, the big celebrity, would *never* lie to protect him, right? Oh, heavens no. Crooked cops with income and interests to protect are *so* much more likely to be honest than drunk girls…

  171. prnandhomeless says: Apr 15, 2010 9:15 PM

    to all the Steelers fans getting offended by having your team, players, owners and city crapped on because of one person’s (alleged) misdeeds, I want to empathize.
    see, I know what it feels like to be apart of a fan base that gets ridiculed and called sleazy because of the actions of a few – I, my friends, am a Philadelphia Eagles fan.
    I was called a scum bag when we signed Michael Vick, despite the fact that I think he’s a disgusting human being. I was called an idiot and a racist when we traded away McNabb. I get called stupid because I like to associate myself with the team by using “we.”
    So I feel your pain, I’ve been there. But let’s be real – there is no reason to defend Ben. One time, call it a gold-digger because he’s rich and famous. Two times, eerily similar stories, he may not be a rapist, but he sure as hell isn’t innocent.
    I get it, innocent until proven guilty, sure. But the problem is, he’s an idiot. When you’re a millionaire quarterback who has won multiple superbowls, maybe you shouldn’t be drinking in college bars with 20-21 years old girls.
    Regardless of the rape, it just makes him a scum bag.
    And people blaming the girl for being drunk or wearing a “DTF” pin, that’s ridiculous – that’s the misogynistic group-think from 50 years ago that would blame women being raped because “they asked for it.” Welcome to 2010, stop being a**holes.

  172. cincychris says: Apr 15, 2010 9:15 PM

    Here’s the real question. Was Big Ben the serial rapist at Miami Universtiy when he was in college? There were at least 10 girls raped in Oxford, Ohio during the same time Ben was the starting QB for the Redhawks. And now all these “alleged” sexual assaults. Sounds a little fishy to me. Oh yeah, Stay Classy SHITSBURGH!!!!!

  173. East Bay Ray says: Apr 15, 2010 9:18 PM

    Anyone asking or wondering why the woman doesn’t want to press charges, think about the trauma she’s already been through. Then think about her having to live through a very public trial in which the defendant’s main line of defense would be to publicly portray her as a skank. Damn right she just wants to leave it behind now. The trial would be at least as traumatic as the incident.

  174. cjgabriel7 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:20 PM

    I wish the prosecutor had been more aggressive, first charging Ben’s sleazy bodyguards with false imprisonment and conspiracy, pressuring them to provide testimony that would incriminate Ben. At that point the off duty cops would either have to ‘lawyer-up,’ presumably at Ben’s expense, or flip on Ben. After building a very strong circumstantial case, they’d have enough to defeat a pretrial defense motion for summary judgment. At that point the victim may’ve become more inclined to testify against him.
    However, she may have been completely (and reasonably) against any sort of trial, in which she would inevitably have been outed, regardless of whatever rape shield laws are in place in Georgia. Also, I assume Ben is going to quietly reach of lucrative, but private civil settlement.
    I am a Jets fan, and if Ben were a Jet, I’d boycott the team until he was released or traded. Goddell has the authority to suspend him for a full season if he wants, and the union is going to be very reticent to stand up for a probable recidivist rapist.

  175. Richard says: Apr 15, 2010 9:22 PM

    Ben is a serial rapist. He and his bodyguards should be incarcerated. The police should consider reopening the case and he should be suspended indefinitely until then. There is no room in the league for sexually violent attackers. The State does not need the vistim to testify and can step in to protect the public at large (Similar to domestic violence statute).

  176. Chiefforlife says: Apr 15, 2010 9:22 PM

    Roughsexberger is not looking to good in all this. A settlement has definitely been agreed to, especially after the second time.
    Justice for the wealthy is never what it is for the average. Look at the Stallworth deal for proof!

  177. markwhct says: Apr 15, 2010 9:23 PM

    Maybe it was just a WHIZZINATOR!!!

  178. realityonetwo says: Apr 15, 2010 9:25 PM

    Thought Pittsburgh was an honest, hard working city. Now we see thanks to people like the Rooneys it’s an Appalachian backwater shit hole.

  179. SixburghSteelers says: Apr 15, 2010 9:26 PM

    I for one never really liked him…
    He holds on to the ball waaaaaaay too long even though he will make a play every so often…
    Take the hit, trade his ass while you can…
    btw, the only reason she cried rape, or kinda rape, is she didn’t get PAID that night
    Ben, do yourself a favor and next time Google “escorts + “whatever town your in”

  180. kluber says: Apr 15, 2010 9:27 PM

    Welp as the late great colonel sanders always said. I’m too drunk to taste this chicken

  181. Nymkosis says: Apr 15, 2010 9:27 PM

    Wyoff-
    Sounds like you were Bens bodyguard that evening……Oh your so freakin smart mr. wanna-be lawyer!!!! I bet Bens dangling his nutz on your forhead every night…..Hope you have a nice day…

  182. Mike D says: Apr 15, 2010 9:28 PM

    Ive been a Steeler fan practically since birth. Reading this account of Ben’s actions, I not only dont want to see him in a Steeler uniform ever again, I’d like to slice his fat, meaty head off with a rusty butter knife. It literally sickens me to see a Rooney family member have to take the podium and address this fat piece of shit’s actions.
    To quote Buddy Ryan, id trade his ass “for a six pack. and it wouldnt even have to be cold”.
    Go play for the Rams, you quadruple-chinned maggot. We hate you.

  183. Moore says: Apr 15, 2010 9:30 PM

    You can say all you want about Roethlisberger, but leave the fans, the city, and the Rooney’s out of this. In today’s NFL this could happen anywhere and does not have a reflection on anyone but the player who caused the whole mess. So keep your hate comments to yourselves.

  184. wydok says: Apr 15, 2010 9:32 PM

    Why did the bar let this girl, who was under 21, into the bar?
    Why wasn’t Ben charged with at least providing alcohol to a minor? Or the bar, for that matter?

  185. gmas1970 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:33 PM

    wyoff
    It doesn’t matter if she had a DTF nametag, or a freaking neon shirt with an arrow pointed at her cooch saying insert here… it doesn’t matter if she had consensual sex with every other member of the NFL. As soon as she says no to Ben…and he does it anyway… he is a rapist. End of story.

  186. spyboots says: Apr 15, 2010 9:34 PM

    With all the sexual conversations the DA said they’d had, it sounds to me as if she changed her mind about giving him a birthday present and so he stopped (since the evidence shows it was not completed) — hence, her “sort of” had sex.

  187. timegambit says: Apr 15, 2010 9:37 PM

    If that was my sister or daughter, I would take a bat to that throwing arm and knee and put his lifestyle on ice for awhile, jack.
    Wouldn’t hit him in the face though, it would ruin the bat.

  188. JimmySmith says: Apr 15, 2010 9:38 PM

    If Rooney wants to show the world what he’s made of , he would get rid of that rapist and close the door on this ugly chapter.
    The two off duty police officers who watched the door should also find a new line of work, they might not tried for criminal activity in this one but what they did was as wrong as Big Ben..
    As for Ben Rapesagirl, I hope he blows out his knees in a pre season game and never sees the field again. He is the scum of the earth and I wish him nothing but back luck and personal injury.

  189. nobodybeatsdawiz says: Apr 15, 2010 9:40 PM

    pulling his dick out is beyond the pale…the rooneys should release him

  190. Sting Ray says: Apr 15, 2010 9:40 PM

    Deb –
    You are clearly Big Ben’s attorney or a paid professional PR person seeking to spin this situation like a politician spins the truth.
    You will notice your comments are having no affect on public opinion. Please find a honorable pursuit in life.

  191. TheWizard says: Apr 15, 2010 9:41 PM

    Justice for the wealthy is never what it is for the average. Look at the Stallworth deal for proof!
    Bad example.
    Dude running across a six lane?
    If Donte hadn’t been drinking, he’d be off with no charges.

  192. griblets says: Apr 15, 2010 9:42 PM

    Lifelong Steelers fan here…
    My 3 year old daughter wanted to wear her Steelers jersey a few days ago, something that would have made me proud a little over a month ago. Because it was a #7 jersey, I couldn’t put it on her. It will soon be sold or trashed.
    It is obvious that Ben was in the wrong with his actions, whether the girl’s story is 100% true or not. She also made some bad decisions, which per her in that situation. But how it happened doesn’t seem to be much in doubt. That’s enough for me to wish Ben out of the black and gold.
    I fully expect the Rooney’s to trade him, possibly even the completely unexpected – release him.
    On a less serious note, I find it funny that a majority of the non-Steelers fans are bashing Ben (deservedly so), yet there is a distinct possibility that he will end up on the favorite team of many of them.

  193. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 9:43 PM

    scooter329 says:
    April 15, 2010 9:10 PM
    Wow, wyoff…how long have you been the head of the Rothlisberger fanclub? If you can read these statements and still think “Big Ben” is a great guy then you truly need to take off your black and gold colored sunglasses.—
    I’m not saying that he’s a great guy. I’m just sick of reading legions of stupid people accepting the unsubstantiated allegations of a drunk girl as the gospel truth. These statements don’t mean a thing. There’s no evidence that any of this stuff happened, yet you people want to run and get a rope. It’s a manifestation of everything that’s wrong with our 24-7 infotainment media.

  194. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 9:48 PM

    –And people blaming the girl for being drunk or wearing a “DTF” pin, that’s ridiculous – that’s the misogynistic group-think from 50 years ago that would blame women being raped because “they asked for it.” Welcome to 2010, stop being a**holes.–
    Again, how is this any worse than what you are doing? You’re castigating a man because of allegations that could be completely made up. There was no evidence that anything happened. A rape kit came up negative. NEWSFLASH- Women can get drunk. Women can get horny. Women can get vindictive and lie. There’s no reason to believe what this woman is saying.

  195. Chapnasty2 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:49 PM

    I guess the post guy has decided I reached my limit on Fat Ben comments. That Commi!

  196. ispysomething7 says: Apr 15, 2010 9:51 PM

    My god, cut Ben some slack. I think he knows what he did was wrong! Did he rape the girl…..only he and her know the real truth. At the end of the day, Ben wasn’t charged. If Stallworth can still play in the league and he killed a man while he was drunk……..I have a bigger problem what that, than what Ben did.

  197. Browns_fan_in_therapy says: Apr 15, 2010 9:51 PM

    “He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants.”
    –There’s a phrase I hope to never read again.
    Growing up and living in Ohio, I liked the QB from the MAC making it in the NFL (even if it was with the Steelers). What an Embarassment he is.

  198. MooninLambeau says: Apr 15, 2010 9:55 PM

    East Bay Ray@
    Pants on the ground! Penis hanging out! Looking like a rapist with your pants on the ground!
    ——————————————
    hahaha by far the most funny comment of the lot. Genius. Epic. Favre Super Bowl MVP ’11.

  199. zabam says: Apr 15, 2010 9:56 PM

    Just finished watching the entirety of the Art Rooney II press conference on the Rothlisburger situation. Rothlisburger is an accurate representation of this man and his organization. Art Rooney Senior must be a very dissapointed spirit tonight.

  200. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 9:56 PM

    –reality police:
    You’re abolutely right. Since she was wearing a name tag intended as a joke amongst her friends (many other members of the party were wearing similar tags) it definitely means she was asking for it.
    What were we thinking? —
    If you’re credulous enough to buy completely into her side of the story, then why are you so unwilling to consider any of the negative implications of her actions? Why does she get the benefit of the doubt?

  201. CanadianVikingFan says: Apr 15, 2010 9:57 PM

    So O.J. Simpson really didn’t do it!

  202. PAJoe says: Apr 15, 2010 10:01 PM

    Diehard Steeler Fan here. I’ve asked my daughter to throw away her #7 shirt. I will never support Rothesberger as long as he plays football after reading this about him. I love the Steelers, but am very disgusted with him. I don’t know how the Rooneys and the players can support such a loser of a human being.

  203. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:06 PM

    All the bad publicity you’ve ever seen for any NFL player who ever did anything stupid is going to PALE in comparison to the public reaction to these documents and the fact that Rapistberger is STILL employed by the Steelers.
    The NFL needs to step in and suspend him immediately. The longer they wait, the more negative the public reaction.
    It’s time to end the double standards, Goodell. If this was anyone else, their career would be over IMMEDIATELY. It’s time to end the hypocrisy. Rapistberger should be given a lifetime suspension from the NFL like Pete Rose was given by the MLB. Ol’ Pete didn’t even rape anyone. You can’t try to ignore this. It is RAPE, and that is damn serious. Lifetime suspension is the only way. And take his damn bonus.

  204. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 10:08 PM

    –gmas1970 says:
    April 15, 2010 9:33 PM
    wyoff
    It doesn’t matter if she had a DTF nametag, or a freaking neon shirt with an arrow pointed at her cooch saying insert here… it doesn’t matter if she had consensual sex with every other member of the NFL. As soon as she says no to Ben…and he does it anyway… he is a rapist. End of story.–
    No kidding. If that’s what happened then he is a rapist and should be in jail. However, there’s no evidence that this is what happened.
    Given what we know, it is unreasonable for us to conclude that she said “no” then, or even that anything of a sexual nature happened. All we have are the statements of her and her friends, all of whom had time to talk to each other and get their stories straight. That’s not persuasive evidence. Those are bare allegations.

  205. steeelfann says: Apr 15, 2010 10:08 PM

    Florio, I don’t know if you have your license in Georgia, but dang man, I smell lawsuit on that bar. Easy pickins there and you know it. Better check out their liability policy quick before they bankrupt themselves.

  206. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 15, 2010 10:10 PM

    For the record….this is WHY rape by intoxication is a crime.
    Because a chick can’t remember doesn’t make it not a crime. In fact, it’s just the opposite.
    Girls and cars are the same. Once significant amounts of alcohol become involved, don’t get in them.

  207. steeelfann says: Apr 15, 2010 10:10 PM

    Problem I have is this:
    “I don’t know IF we should be doing this” and,
    “boy kind of raped me”.
    Girls often say these things when they want to have sex, yet they don’t want the guilt that goes a long with it. So they can kind of have their cake and eat it too. Sorry, it is ugly, but it is prevalent.

  208. blmonroe12 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:11 PM

    Apparently Big Ben likes to rock out with his cock out.. Lets see what happens if he tries that in jail.. This guy is gonna have a tragic end to his career and its gonna be well deserved.. Karma is a B!tch…

  209. cowboysbuckeyes1 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:11 PM

    He raped her. Steelers org knows it. They can do the right thing and get rid of him or they can continue to enable a rapist.

  210. oldschool says: Apr 15, 2010 10:11 PM

    Ok,,,I figured it out,,,,two game suspension ,,,,,,then he plays 14 games with his penis hanging out….

  211. War_Paint says: Apr 15, 2010 10:12 PM

    Some of you Steeler fans are just unbelievable, damn.

  212. irishgary says: Apr 15, 2010 10:13 PM

    @Deb
    You are an idiot and should never speak for vicitms of any kind

  213. DB26 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:13 PM

    I am a Browns fan and can’t stand the guy…. But seriously? You guys are more inbred than Stooler fans if you can’t figure this one out on your own. Key sentence in the whole fu*cking statement is “then he walked out without saying anything to me”. You didn’t scratch, you didn’t fight, you didn’t scream (maybe squeeled or moaned a little), you did NOTHING that a woman being raped would do. If he raped you, did you want him to whisper sweet nothings in your skanky ass ear? Or did you want him to cuddle? SIMPLE, your dumbass got played and then regretted it after the fact. You never tried to leave, you didn’t run out of the place, NOTHING.
    Quite simple, you’re naive as hell or your a dumb slut. I would love to have seen a pic of this girl at the bar. Probably had her snatch hangin out of her mini skirt and her tig ole bitties hangin out as far as possible too.

  214. 2MinutesHate says: Apr 15, 2010 10:13 PM

    What is sad is that some Steelers fans like wyoff and others on their message boards only care about the Steelers winning. It truely is disgusting. If this girl was your sister I bet you’d feel differently. The man is obviously a pig and I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s played his last down in the NFL.
    I’m not sure what the Steelers could even get for him in trade. If he’s suspended for a year they might get more for him next year after the story dies down. Now that the police report has been published and the officer quit, it’s really hard to believe that all 3 girls were lying just to get paid.

  215. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 10:15 PM

    Nymkosis, you really shouldn’t be squandering your work release time trolling internet sites. You have burgers to flip. Get back to work.

  216. UckTheFeagles says: Apr 15, 2010 10:16 PM

    “Ben’s an NFL quarterback, he won’t do anything to ruin his reputation.” …it’s obvious he uses this reasoning to get away with what he does over and over and over. He figures no one will believe the girls, he’s the quarterback for the steelers, he higher than God in his mind, he can do no wrong (just read the posts of the idiots he has fooled on this message board). Typical scumbag deviate sexual predator preying on the weak.
    …guess what ben, the gigs up, we’re all onto you.
    He belongs in jail.

  217. Ace says: Apr 15, 2010 10:23 PM

    My heart bleeds black and gold, as there is no doubt our QB is a rapist.
    And even if he didn’t do it, look what he has to resort to, to get some arse. He has less game than me, and I’m worth about $400.
    Trade Ben, winning is not everything. Winning with class is!!!!

  218. smithopher says: Apr 15, 2010 10:24 PM

    I don’t know how any father who has a daughter could ever cheer for this guy again. I don’t even have kids and I’m just like, wow. Michael Vick got a harsh sentence for those dogs, this is way worse. Have at it, Goodell.

  219. BigBear123 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:26 PM

    Tiger Woods started at 1-2, moved to 3-4 and finished well above 10.
    Different story altogether and Tiger would be, well a Tiger, if he wasn’t married with kids and pretended to be perfect.
    Doubt this was the first ever Ben-A-Palooza and I anxiously await some more back country girls that Little Boyish Ben had fun with in a bar bathroom.
    At this point in time there will not be any evidence left over to pursue anything serious, even in civil court, but the damage they can add to his already tarnished image will be priceless.

  220. Rocksteady says: Apr 15, 2010 10:28 PM

    Sounds like rape to me. From her side anyway.

  221. whodey says: Apr 15, 2010 10:32 PM

    Sad that Rapistburger can afford such good legal work to get him off the hook. Hope the Steelers will do the right thing and cut him! I’m embarrassed for the Steelers…and you can only hope that justice will be served on Big Ben (from the waist up I imagine).

  222. ispysomething7 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:33 PM

    My god, cut Ben some slack. I think he knows what he did was wrong! Did he rape the girl…..only he and her know the real truth. At the end of the day, Ben wasn’t charged. If Stallworth can still play in the league and he killed a man while he was drunk……..I have a bigger problem what that, than what Ben did.

  223. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 10:34 PM

    –gmas1970 says:
    April 15, 2010 9:33 PM
    wyoff
    It doesn’t matter if she had a DTF nametag, or a freaking neon shirt with an arrow pointed at her cooch saying insert here… it doesn’t matter if she had consensual sex with every other member of the NFL. As soon as she says no to Ben…and he does it anyway… he is a rapist. End of story.—
    No kidding. If Ben in fact did that, then he is a rapist and should be rotting in jail.
    My point is that we have no basis for concluding that that is what happened. We don’t know whether she in fact said “no.” We don’t even know whether they had sexual contact. All we have is the written statements of her and her friends (who had plenty of time and motive to coordinate their stories) and the rape kit, which did not indicate rape. There wasn’t even any DNA, which would be strange if they did have sex. I can’t understand why so many people are taking the allegations as being completely true when there is no evidence for them. There’s just one huge, self-righteous lynch mob. Facts be damned, they want blood. Mention things like “evidence” and you’re branded an apologist or a misogynist. You’re all being played by the muckracking media. It’s sickening.

  224. brownsfansinceconcieved says: Apr 15, 2010 10:37 PM

    Wait, We should all take INTERMISSION.
    I gotta pee
    grab popcorn
    make sure the kids are comfortable
    (and not reading over my shoulders)
    Wow, How the plot thickens..
    Everybody! BREATHE IN
    Take a pee
    grab popcorn
    make sure the kids are comfortable
    (and not reading over your shoulders)
    And,
    Come back
    ò¿ó

  225. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 10:39 PM

    —PAJoe says:
    April 15, 2010 10:01 PM
    Diehard Steeler Fan here. I’ve asked my daughter to throw away her #7 shirt. I will never support Rothesberger as long as he plays football after reading this about him. I love the Steelers, but am very disgusted with him. I don’t know how the Rooneys and the players can support such a loser of a human being.—
    Are you throwing out your Super Bowl 40 and 43 memorabilia? Are you going back to counting 4 Super Bowls instead of 6? How can you take joy from them knowing that this guy led the team both times? You should just stop watching football altogether.

  226. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 15, 2010 10:39 PM

    “steeelfann says:
    April 15, 2010 10:10 PM
    Problem I have is this:
    “I don’t know IF we should be doing this” and,
    “boy kind of raped me”.
    Girls often say these things when they want to have sex, yet they don’t want the guilt that goes a long with it. So they can kind of have their cake and eat it too. Sorry, it is ugly, but it is prevalent.”
    Is there a calender in the room you’re in right now?
    Do me a favor, take a quick glance….and tell me what year it says on there.

  227. wyoff says: Apr 15, 2010 10:41 PM

    –TFBuckFutter says:
    April 15, 2010 10:10 PM
    For the record….this is WHY rape by intoxication is a crime.
    Because a chick can’t remember doesn’t make it not a crime. In fact, it’s just the opposite.–
    But what if the guy’s just as drunk? Who’s at fault then? Even the accuser’s friends testified that Roethlisberger was noticably intoxicated. Why did they choose to keep hanging around the guy?

  228. hayward giablommi says: Apr 15, 2010 10:42 PM

    I think we all know how this would have turned out if this was a black NFL player/sexual predator who was allegedly raping the fine women of Georgia and elsewhere.
    Prosecution or no prosecution, it would appear that the chickens are finally coming home
    to roost for the flocks of sheep grazing in Pittsburgh and their alleged serial rapist QB.
    – Please support the Victims of Rapistberger Fan Club

  229. bigroop says: Apr 15, 2010 10:43 PM

    I though Ben was a P.O.S. before and now I am DAMN CERTAIN of it. The creep premeditated a rape of an overly drunk woman. The guards standing post and acting like they didn’t know what’s happening make it VERY clear Ben arranged it. He should be suspended for an entire season. There is no doubt he will be in trouble again soon enough.

  230. .RebaT says: Apr 15, 2010 10:43 PM

    Deb,
    I suggest taking a stand – either you LOVE Ben or he’s a sleeze. Which stand do you take today? I remember not so long ago everyone tried to gang up on me… Now, they are ganging up on Ben lovers.
    When he exposed himself I was surprised that anyone could find it. Too bad the girl just didn’t start laughing at him. LOL LOL LOL That is a great visual to see her do that!
    What does big hands and big feet mean? The only thing that is truthful – big gloves and big shoes. THAT’S IT!
    Ben is a coward that can’t date a woman without getting her drunk first. And – HOW DRUNK WAS BEN?
    blitzburgh1 – YOU ARE A MORON!! You are a minority on this bored dummy.

  231. LGC = Let's Go Cardinals says: Apr 15, 2010 10:44 PM

    I feel terrible for the girl but it is obvious there was foul play.
    F U Roethlisberger and Florio!
    Your QB is a white trash rapist Steeler fans.

  232. cruisekid says: Apr 15, 2010 10:44 PM

    Let’s get this straight; Ben bought shots for these girls. The girl in question was 20 years old. The legal drinking age in Georgia is 21. Ben provided alcohol to under age minors which is against the law. As you may recall, the Bengals Chris Henry served jail time and a 4 game suspension for giving alcohol to female minor’s. Unfortunately for Chris he didn’t have quite the financial means to make the necessary payoffs to secure his freedom. Let’s see how Rodger the Bengal slayer handles a more severe set of circumstance with his beloved Steelers when determining an appropriate penalty.

  233. Deb says: Apr 15, 2010 10:45 PM

    @RAVNATION, Apetits, Uncle Leo, trickbunny, irishgary, Sting Ray …
    For me, this doesn’t have anything to do with Roethlisberger or the Steelers. I’m trying to stay objective, but I’m human and can’t help being influenced by these stories. I wish Ben would fall off the face of the earth. But the stories are one-sided–and that’s the problem.
    Florio’s job has nothing to do with finding truth and justice. It’s about stirring up controversy, which generates page hits. He’s posting only the most damning material. But if this were all the evidence, Roethlisberger would be in jail. I’ve listened twice to the full press conference and been over the transcripts. The DA said the accuser went through an “evolution” to get to this point. He said her sorority sisters were very drunk. He said the bodyguards told a completely different story and so did the club owner. So did some of the other witnesses. He said the woman and Roethlisberger were engaged in sexual conversation and conduct all evening that was definitely a two-way street. This isn’t the whole story, fellas.
    I’ve spent too much time in courtrooms and seen too many judicial abuses in my own work–and I’m the sister of a criminal defense attorney. At the end of the day, despite all the hype, Roethlisberger’s infractions boil down to a Nevada civil suit in which the evidence supports him and a Georgia criminal accusation that was found by the authorities to be without merit. That is ALL the league can act on, and NO player has been suspended in those circumstances. My argument is simply that the league should not set a precedent of acting to appease mob rule or race-baiting. HOWEVER, the Steelers–as his employers–can set higher standards. I’m hoping they will be thorough and severe in their handling of the situation and I’ll support whatever the team decides. If they sit him, fine. If they trade him, bye. Personally, I favor making him clean the toilets at Heinz Field.
    I am sadder than any of you could ever understand for the Georgia girl. According to the DA, both of them were drunk and it was a sordid mess. I don’t believe it was a rape because I’m looking at the EVIDENCE. According to multiple witnesses, she was only out of sight 10 minutes, and there was too much uncertainty and too many changes in her story, and the findings of the rape kit indicated there was no intercourse. I do think it was a lot of drunken pawing and groping, including groping of the genital area. I think she got away lucky because she easily could have been raped. Women are responsible for their choices, including the choice to drink themselves into oblivion and get into potentially dangerous situations. The DA said he hoped she learned from her mistakes that night. So do I.
    If you all want to continue to damn me for trying to view this dispassionately and for believing in principles of due process–regardless of whether the guy is a sleaze–fine. But at least know where I’m coming from.

  234. highjak78 says: Apr 15, 2010 10:46 PM

    Where is Deb? Where is Hands of Sweed? Where is Steeltown_6, Where is Steeler-lady? You guys don’t have anything to say now that the FACTS are out, do you? I thought he was a turd before ANY of this started, thought he was guilty as hell when the allegations were rumored, and now think it’s a complete joke this douche wasn’t arrested and put in F’n jail for his completely brain-dead actions! The “bodygaurds” should all be charged with obstruction of justice and lose their jobs as police officers – they don’t have the kind of “moral fiber” that should be patroling the streets ANYWHERE. With all his money you’d think he could get some hot-ass call girls that would do whatever he wanted, with no rape (sexual assault, whatever) charges. I hope that girl had herpes, then they’re even!

  235. Rogue says: Apr 15, 2010 10:47 PM

    If he had sex with her why is it that no DNA was found the doctor said that there was some male DNA but not sufficient amount.
    Statutary rape is under the age of 16
    This would be a good blog, but some of you do not know what the heck you are talking about.
    Some of if is probably done by florio so he can mak ise his quota just like a cop
    IMHO Ben should serve some kind of suspension and should be fined there is no place for his kind of actions. He has a very very poor sense of respect. He is a young kid in a mans body so what he should say to hime
    HEY BEN YOU AHOLE GROW UP

  236. doni says: Apr 15, 2010 10:50 PM

    Of course he had his penis hanging out of his pants; haven’t any of you ever had to pee really bad and gotten well prepared before you got to the restroom????? Fess-up; of course you have. Nothing to see here folks. Just two drunks talking sex that can’t even remember if it was good or not. No wonder the DA didn’t want to touch it. No DNA, no problem; the media will do its best to make something out of nothing….(no pun intended). Give Ben and the wench a break; two horny youngsters looking for a little action that got out of hand…(again, no pun intended)! We can all hope that both of them learned a lesson. For Ben, probably his career in Pittsburgh; for the wench a good payday, no degree and a life of what-if’s. Damn, people are sure stupid!

  237. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: Apr 15, 2010 10:52 PM

    Elaine: Let’s see…(clicks tongue) how shall I put this?
    Jerry: Well, just put it.
    Elaine: (brief pause) He took it out. (canned laughter ensues)

  238. steeelfann says: Apr 15, 2010 10:53 PM

    20 years ago, this would have been nothing. Girls woke up many times and said, “Sheesh, I can’t believe I slept with that guy, how did I let him do that. Boy was I drunk”.
    Now in the PC world, everything is dissected. Hey if she did not want to be in there, she could have screamed out, but she did not. She was coherent enough to have a conversation about it, to tell people about it. She could have yelled out and scratched his face. She did not. That is WHY SHE SAID I don’t THINK we should be DOING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She let it happen because she wanted it to happen. She just did not want everyone to think she was a tramp afterwards, so she had that little caveat in there. So either way, she is okay. She has the sex, yet she says she did not want it. It is just that she really didn’t fight too hard did she……………..hmmmmm. Yes, No means No, but she could have got out of it if she really wanted to. No way does Ben rape her if she struggled or yelled out. This is all crazy. Do I think Ben is scummy. You bet. But so is she. 2 drunks messing around. This has been going on for 10,000 years.

  239. TuckRule says: Apr 15, 2010 10:53 PM

    Please don’t send this Stooge to Oakland. Jamarcus just ordered two more pepperoni pizzas and is getting in shape so he can lead the Raiders to another winning season.

  240. heirshouse says: Apr 15, 2010 10:54 PM

    Jaguars will take him…rapist or not

  241. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: Apr 15, 2010 10:56 PM

    Kramer: Well, maybe it needed some air! You know sometimes they need air! They can’t breathe in there! It’s inhuman!

  242. UckTheFeagles says: Apr 15, 2010 10:56 PM

    I like the way his fans try to trivialize this into a “you must be a ravens fan” or “you must be a browns fan”…they just don’t get it do they?
    If the Steeler’s organization continues to employ this guy they are enabling his behavior.
    HE BELONGS IN JAIL.

  243. Steeler-lady says: Apr 15, 2010 11:03 PM

    How does one remember all this while drunk? this whole thing is totally different from the story the DA told.. he said the room was only seperated by a curtain.. and there was another way into the bathroom.
    Lol this is hilarious…. but hey believe what you want.. the lack of DNA and NO SIGNS of penetration or rape was declared by the DOCTOR.
    Sounds to me JUST like the DA said.. Both Parties were drunk n acted foolishly.
    lmoa he sat her on a stool?LOL and she just let him lead her the way??
    Hahahah the DA said she asked to use THAT bathroom.. what a bunch of garbage.

  244. turkish91 says: Apr 15, 2010 11:04 PM

    Silverback- there’s no “Cincy” or “Brown” in MY name- I’m neutral and I’m educated and I root for a completely different team in a completely different division in a completely different part of the country. The reason we’re not getting “reports from both sides” is that your dick-head QB won’t GIVE his side. Wonder why that could be? If he really didn’t do anything, he would be chirping high and low with outraged indignation. He’s not, though. Why? Because he doesn’t HAVE a different account. Oh YEAH, I’m SURE you’d get some different accounts from his “entourage”/fishing buddies/hangers-on. No one has refuted the girl’s claim at being dragged away and no one has even suggested that she “took him to be alone”. You are the exact type of Steeler fan I hate- loud, stupid, and full of your own sh#@. (With apologies to all the “Old School” Steeler fans reading this- you guys really need to police your ranks a little better, though. Some of these “Steeler fans” are giving all of you a bad name)

  245. trickbunny says: Apr 15, 2010 11:07 PM

    You know what would be awesome? If Ben *does* get to play this year, and every stadium he goes to, including Heinz Field, the whole crowd starts chanting “RAPIST! RAPIST! RAPIST!”
    Do it, folks. heh heh.

  246. MSWRavens says: Apr 15, 2010 11:09 PM

    WOW!!! Just read this & worried that my reaction was biased b/c I’m a Ravens fan…202 posts later I realize that the feelings are unanimous…even from Steelers fans, to their credit. Frankly, I am sick to my stomach, and don’t know if I’m more sickened by Ben preying on these women, or the enablers around him who facilitate this inhuman behavior! If the Rooneys were already taken aback by the public reaction, how will they feel to the backlash now that we all know just how devious this creep is. Obviously, today’s little BS press conference by Rooney was an attempt to downplay the impact of what we’ve now learned from the GBI investigation. I previously thought a 4 game suspension was appropriate, And I was pissed by reports that Ben would get 4 games with a likely chance to reduce it to 2. Now that I read these reports, I’m thinking anything less than an 8 game suspension is light…and I honestly wonder how any self respecting fan could root for this guy again under any circumstances. I’m simply amazed. Maybe I’ve grown older than I think and I’m out of touch with today’s reality…but that conduct is nothing short of criminal from where I come from…though I know it could never be proven.

  247. Klytus says: Apr 15, 2010 11:09 PM

    Mr. Bright and I are in agreement. This was a terribly stupid thing to do which sometimes happens to people that have been drinking all night. Now why Mr. Bright felt the need to broadcast the uncorroborated witness testimony is up for speculation. Perhaps he wanted his pound of flesh along with his 15 minutes?
    Everyone looks at this with sober eyes. The problem is there wasn’t a sober eye in the place. But that’s why people go bar hopping, for a spiritual awakening. I wasn’t there so everything is hear say. Of course, the girl’s friends will side with her. What else should one expect?
    GO STEELERS!

  248. FumbleNuts says: Apr 15, 2010 11:12 PM

    Rapenstein should be kicked out of the NFL FOR GOOD.
    The League should bring the hammer down BIG TIME!

  249. last starfighter says: Apr 15, 2010 11:14 PM

    Steeler-lady says: April 15, 2010 11:03 PM
    -Quit defending a rapist because he plays for your team. If I were a Steeler fan I would gladly trade going 2-14 the next two seasons to get him off my team.

  250. Deb says: Apr 15, 2010 11:16 PM

    @RAVNATION, Apetits, Uncle Leo, trickbunny, irishgary, Sting Ray …
    For me, this doesn’t have anything to do with Roethlisberger or the Steelers. I’m trying to stay objective, but I’m human and can’t help being influenced by these stories. I wish Ben would fall off the face of the earth. But the stories are one-sided–and that’s the problem.
    Florio’s job has nothing to do with finding truth and justice. It’s about stirring up controversy, which generates page hits. He’s posting only the most damning material. But if this were all the evidence, Roethlisberger would be in jail. I’ve listened twice to the full press conference and been over the transcripts. The DA said the accuser went through an “evolution” to get to this point. He said her sorority sisters were very drunk. He said the bodyguards told a completely different story and so did the club owner. So did some of the other witnesses. He said the woman and Roethlisberger were engaged in sexual conversation and conduct all evening that was definitely a two-way street. This isn’t the whole story, fellas.
    I’ve spent too much time in courtrooms and seen too many judicial abuses in my own work–and I’m the sister of a criminal defense attorney. At the end of the day, despite all the hype, Roethlisberger’s infractions boil down to a Nevada civil suit in which the evidence supports him and a Georgia criminal accusation that was found by the authorities to be without merit. That is ALL the league can act on, and NO player has been suspended in those circumstances. My argument is simply that the league should not set a precedent of acting to appease mob rule or race-baiting. HOWEVER, the Steelers–as his employers–can set higher standards. I’m hoping they will be thorough and severe in their handling of the situation and I’ll support whatever the team decides. If they sit him, fine. If they trade him, bye. Personally, I favor making him clean the toilets at Heinz Field.
    I am sadder than any of you could ever understand for the Georgia girl. According to the DA, both of them were drunk and it was a sordid mess. I don’t believe it was a rape because I’m looking at the EVIDENCE. According to multiple witnesses, she was only out of sight 10 minutes, and there was too much uncertainty and too many changes in her story, and the findings of the rape kit indicated there was no intercourse. I do think it was a lot of drunken pawing and groping, including groping of the genital area. I think she got away lucky because she easily could have been raped. Women are responsible for their choices, including the choice to drink themselves into oblivion and get into potentially dangerous situations. The DA said he hoped she learned from her mistakes that night. So do I.
    If you all want to continue to damn me for trying to view this dispassionately and for believing in principles of due process–regardless of whether the guy is a sleaze–fine. But at least know where I’m coming from.

  251. UBBALLER8 says: Apr 15, 2010 11:16 PM

    I’d rather have a team of Michael Vicks over a piece of shit like Rapelisberger.
    At least Vick didn’t rape, or do anything to harm human beings.
    Someone needs to lock Rapelisberger and his fat face away with the biggest guy prison can offer in a small cell.
    Maybe that will teach him a lesson as the warden stands watch….

  252. JLM-Hokie says: Apr 15, 2010 11:17 PM

    Wow, what a POS! Obviously, there was a payoff here because had this girl chosen to press charges, there is a very good chance she would have won.
    Says something about the girl too as she would rather take a payoff then put this piece of trash in jail so he can’t treat anyone else like this.

  253. Darth Vader says: Apr 15, 2010 11:21 PM

    Thats disgusting, Ravens will inflict punishment on him.

  254. UckTheFeagles says: Apr 15, 2010 11:24 PM

    Here’s an idea for you steeler fans…maybe they could cut his salary and pay him the league minimum. This would solve all his problems. After all, according to you people his high salary is the reason he is getting “accused” all the time.
    This guy is a pathetic joke, and the entire steelers organization will look like the punch line if they don’t do something about this FAST!!!

  255. realitypolice says: Apr 15, 2010 11:27 PM

    Steeler-lady says:
    April 15, 2010 11:03 PM
    How does one remember all this while drunk? this whole thing is totally different from the story the DA told.. he said the room was only seperated by a curtain.. and there was another way into the bathroom.
    Lol this is hilarious…. but hey believe what you want.. the lack of DNA and NO SIGNS of penetration or rape was declared by the DOCTOR.
    Sounds to me JUST like the DA said.. Both Parties were drunk n acted foolishly.
    lmoa he sat her on a stool?LOL and she just let him lead her the way??
    Hahahah the DA said she asked to use THAT bathroom.. what a bunch of garbage.
    =================================
    Whatever the facts are, if you think any of this is funny, you need help.
    Seriously.

  256. edgy1957 says: Apr 15, 2010 11:29 PM

    Come on guys, the idiot here is Ben not Deb.

  257. brownsfansinceconcieved says: Apr 15, 2010 11:30 PM

    Hopefully his dad will scorn him in a (let’s say) an adidas commercial.
    and everything will go away
    funny?

  258. Route36West says: Apr 15, 2010 11:33 PM

    Anyone who read this and still wants to defend this guy I hope the same thing that happened to this girl happens to a female in your family. I want to know if you would defend him then.
    I think rape and child molestation should be a capital crime and people who committ it should be put to death. It probably will never happen so they should atleast be jailed . Where they to will probably get the same treatment they gave there victims.
    I have never wished injury on any player in the NFL. But because the police will not do the right thing in this case and take this guy off the streets I hope god or karma or whatever takes his profession away from him with a career ending injury. And I hope its one that pains him for the rest of his life.

  259. .RebaT says: Apr 15, 2010 11:36 PM

    Steeler-lady
    Why don’t you go out with Ben and let him take advantage of you. You know you want to! Do you dream at night that it was you instead of her? Are you jealous? Yeah, you are. Poor thing.

  260. P-way Eagles says: Apr 15, 2010 11:36 PM

    Rapistberger got away with one…But that was his last get out of jail free card…He even touches a chick the wrong way ever again he will be toast.

  261. realitypolice says: Apr 15, 2010 11:41 PM

    smithopher says:
    April 15, 2010 10:24 PM
    I don’t know how any father who has a daughter could ever cheer for this guy again. I don’t even have kids and I’m just like, wow. Michael Vick got a harsh sentence for those dogs, this is way worse. Have at it, Goodell.
    ============================
    Please stop with the Vick comparisons. For God’s sake, I’m no BR supporter, I think he is a douche bag, but saying he should have gotten a harsher sentence than Vick makes you sound really stupid.
    Vick: convicted of multiple crimes
    BR: not even charged with a crime
    Is that simple enough?

  262. pokerpro7s says: Apr 15, 2010 11:45 PM

    Whatever happened to personal accountability? This 20 year old woman (and those of you calling her a girl barely out of high school are morons, at 20 she’s plenty grown up), put herself in this position. She was in a bar, drinking underage and very much intoxicated and hanging around a group of guys, one of them an NFL QB. I’ve lived in an NFL city I’ve seen how young girls hang around these guys at bars like vultures. I very highly doubt she wasn’t being a tease at the very least and probably instigated the act herself. Trust me, college age girls get dressed up and go out to get laid just as much if not more than guys do. Her friends, being the obvious cock blocks they are and/or being extremely jealous of her talked her into crying rape and not wanting to look like a complete slut she went along with it. That’s why she told police “this boy KIND OF raped me.” Once the story got blown up she couldn’t go back on her word. What, you think she was gonna tell her father “Actually daddy I just got really drunk and decided to have sex with a stranger in the bathroom.” So Ben takes the blame. He forced them to drink (yeah right)and he forced himself on the girl. Please. It’s so obvious what actually happened.

  263. Gautam says: Apr 15, 2010 11:45 PM

    ok Mike, you need to tell me something – if somebody’s drunk, what is the law in most US states wrt sex and consent ?
    We all know and have been through situations with really drunk girls & I leave because I cannot possibly enjoy sex with that drunk a person.

  264. bigstorm says: Apr 15, 2010 11:57 PM

    the justice system works. Ben 1, bar slut 0.
    Ben should sue this bitch for defamation. Her parents must be proud. “Hey dad…I met a nice guy this weekend….in the men’s washroom, actually my head was in a urinal while he had his way with me. It sounds bad dad but he did buy me and my slut friends shooters.”
    USA-USA-USA

  265. bluestree says: Apr 16, 2010 12:07 AM

    prnandhomeless; Great post.
    After taking in this newly released information, I’m reminded of that movie with Jodie Foster. Not the situation precisely, but the underlying conflicts in the morality.
    If a girl is behaving in an overtly sexual manner in public, she has a difficult time protecting herself, and is less likely to get any protection from authorities, or justice rom the law. If she is loaded, it’s even worse. And if she has been promiscuous, she is less likely to want to be dragged through the mud of a prosecution, put her family through that.
    None of us were there and can say what went down, but it sure stinks. Sounds like a girl who acted like a she was loose and partied hard with her girls can’t prove beyond a doubt what she says happened, and Ben’s lawyers did all the right things to make sure their client could not be prosecuted, and that’s their job.
    Shame.

  266. Jungle Juice says: Apr 16, 2010 12:20 AM

    Man, this is just disgusting. Even a Kennedy was put on trial for less a crime.
    Only a scumbag would take advantage of a young drunk girl and have bodyguards to help.
    And, it sounds like it was planned! If he really acted this way he should be out of the NFL forever. They kicked Odell Thurman out for less.

  267. Richm2256 says: Apr 16, 2010 12:31 AM

    Wow … this is amazing. Dude is a Super Bowl winning NFL veteran QB, and he needs to find underaged college girls, get them plastered, and whip his junk out on them? Take the name Roethlisberger out of this, and – Las Vegas accusation or not – this guy is a sick bastard.
    You Steelers fans want to doubt the girl because she was DRUNK? The whole thing happened because he GOT her drunk. Of course her resistance is going to be low, that’s why he got her liquored up; of course her recollection was low.
    Getting a 20 year old girl drunk and pulling out the Johnson is not only criminal, it’s embarassing. THIS is how an NFL all star gets laid?????
    I don’t care if the victim whored herself out by taking Ben’s money, this is sick, disgusting, and criminal. How the Rooney’s can employ this guy one more day is a travesty. How Goodell can allow this man to ever take the field again is abhorrant.

  268. Dogsweat says: Apr 16, 2010 12:32 AM

    Big Deviant shows his dong to a Southern inbred…
    And it’s a crime?

  269. Jordiway73 says: Apr 16, 2010 12:46 AM

    Problem I have is that in both statements drunk and sober she says he had sex with me, she never said he raped me or forced himself on me, I believe they started to get it on she said no and he stopped, thats why there was no DNA after that those girls got dollar signs in their drunk little eyes and thats why you dont mess with young girls just ask Kobe!!!!!!!

  270. JesseJames says: Apr 16, 2010 12:46 AM

    Hi Ben, I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC. Can I have a moment of your time?

  271. Dawgpound2009 says: Apr 16, 2010 12:47 AM

    All of a sudden having Jake Delhomme as a starting quarterback doesnt seem so bad LOL If some of the Steelers fans are clamoring for Mark Bulger, you know they must be getting REAL NERVOUS.
    I highly doubt any NFL G.M. is going to make a trade offer for this walking nightmare regardless of his two rings. What a joke.

  272. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Apr 16, 2010 12:51 AM

    So what is Rooney going to say, how is he going to explain the decision to wait, when another victim comes forward in the next few weeks? When it happens (which it will), if Roethlisberger is still on the team, what does that say about Rooney and the Steelers organization as a whole? There have been numerous allegations that heavily suggest a pattern of this behaviour in Ben. To ignore it, or to say that you’re going to trade him, what does that say about your character? About the NFL as a whole?
    This guy’s got a history of rape so he’s not good enough for your team, but you’re willing to trade him to another city? And what if he does it again, or another allegation comes out in another city? That would forever tarnish the Rooney family’s legacy in the NFL.
    The police reports show that Ben acted in a manner that is unacceptable to any reasonable person. For the Rooneys to say they can accept Ben, they are saying they can accept the behaviour, they can accept rape.
    Forget about rebuilding Ben’s image. The reports are out, everyone knows what happened, and it’s a lot worse than any of us imagined. The cat is out of the bag and it isn’t going back in, EVER.

  273. odds75to1 says: Apr 16, 2010 12:59 AM

    Rape is about violence – not sex. What Ben did was sex not violence…which is why it was called “sexual assault” this whole time and not rape.
    There may not have been violence and “scratching and clawing her way out” but using intimidation to have sex is assault, not rape. So, while he was wrong to coerce her or intimidate her and that is sexual assault, that is the reason it wasn’t ever considered rape.
    But don’t belittle the crime he committed because she didn’t press charges due to now wanting to be drug through the mud, or because of a pin they were all wearing, or because there was alcohol involved.
    Clearly the main points of took her to bathroom, Ben came in afterward, bodyguard stood guard…seriously not one of you can say, yeah that’s cool ? May not be rape (violence) but it’s assault and it’s NOT appropriate!

  274. Kay23 says: Apr 16, 2010 1:24 AM

    So..her friends felt that she was taken by force in the back area ,but they felt no need to scream like banshees and alert everyone in the place to what was going on or call 911? I see they went to the bar manager and talked to a bodyguard but I would hope my friends would cause a bigger ruckus,a total scene especially if they thought I was in danger.

  275. ItalianArmyGuy says: Apr 16, 2010 1:47 AM

    Another side of the story – from Willie Colon and the cops perspective (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette). When you read these statements, it would appear that the sorority girls were lying:
    – Around 11 p.m, as the group entered Velvet Elvis, a group of women that included the accuser were at the end of the bar. Mr. Colon said the women recognized the quarterback and went “nutty.”
    – “The girls approached Roethlisberger and asked to take photographs with him, and Roethlisberger accommodated their requests.” The women said they were wearing their provocative nametags, which they had received at a birthday party, because “they thought it was funny.” (Mr. Colon said the woman asked him if he knew what her “DTF” nametag meant. She said it was a crude acronym for wanting to have sex.)
    – Mr. Roethlisberger’s group crossed the street to another bar, The Brick. Mr. Colon said the women followed them
    – Mr. Colon said, the woman “repeatedly attempted to get Roethlisberger’s attention, which included pinching him.”
    – The woman’s handwriting is clearly sloppier than in her subsequent statement, given later in the day. In the first statement, she refers to the quarterback as “Ben Rotheseburgehergh.”
    – Trooper Joyner said he never stopped anyone from going in the hallway area of the bar and never saw anyone else in the group do so.
    – Officer Barravecchio said on Mr. Roethlisberger’s instruction he showed a woman where the bathroom was but did not remain there
    – Sgt. Blash said the accuser had already changed her story several times.

  276. Adam says: Apr 16, 2010 1:59 AM

    silverback says:
    April 15, 2010 8:09 PM
    Funny how everyone is publicly convicting a man who there wasn’t even enough evidence to get to trial…
    Has anyone thought about that? Or how about the fact that only the prosecution gets to presents it’s evidence in public? Why can’t Ben present his case in public?
    Maybe the girl grabbed his junk under the table and told him to follow her to the bathroom, then once there she jumped his bones?
    You don’t get to see the other side of the story of the mounds of evidence the defense team dug up.
    All we get to hear is what this scumbag DA releases to the public, a slanted one sided story. Two sides to every story folks, TWO SIDES!!
    Problem is, Big Ben won’t talk to anyone about the incident. If he’s not talking about his side, we can speculate.

  277. Just JTO says: Apr 16, 2010 2:09 AM

    I don’t know how much of this is fact and how much is fiction, but I will say this: If the account released by the DA is true there is one scumbag bigger than Ben … THE GIRL’S FATHER. If my daughter was raped no amount of money would ever allow me to say ‘it’s ok, honey, it’s ok.” If Ben really raped that girl, her dad should join him in jail for not making sure he is prosecuted.
    Again, that’s IF those statements are indeed facts of what occurred that night.

  278. thebirdofprey says: Apr 16, 2010 2:50 AM

    I know this situation was bad but after reading this guy sounds like a sexual predator without question. Plus having your bodyguards help you, that’s sick. I was a big fan of this QB and now think he’s disgusting.

  279. CKL says: Apr 16, 2010 3:01 AM

    Turkish..I have to say I DO wonder about why he wouldn’t deny it publicly like he did with that groupie in NV’s accusation.

  280. Bob Nelson says: Apr 16, 2010 3:05 AM

    Do his “off duty” police officer/bodyguards have no shame?
    How can they be trusted to uphold the law when on duty?

  281. Pantherfan10 says: Apr 16, 2010 3:11 AM

    once a sexual predator always a sexual predator

  282. eaglealan64 says: Apr 16, 2010 3:35 AM

    How come her name is blacked out but Roethlisberger’s is allowed to be published?
    We’ve just had a case in the UK where a teacher was cleared of having sex with a pupil but the papers can print the teacher’s name but not the false accuser’s.
    It’s absurd.

  283. bobzilla says: Apr 16, 2010 4:16 AM

    @deb_aka_bens_lawyer: Thanks for speaking for the many of us who have tired of reading all the two-month’s worth of contradictions coming from a know-it-all.
    I’ve been critical of Roethlisberger’s behavior pattern even before that night in Goergia, but this situation is worse than anyone could’ve possibly imagined.
    Everyone is talking “trade.”
    I’m not sure now that there’s a place anywhere in the league for this ego-maniac.
    Incidently, the PA state police are now investigating one of Roethlisberger’s thug bodyguards. They both might be unemployed before all is said and done.

  284. Jaydub says: Apr 16, 2010 5:49 AM

    # Steeler-lady says: April 15, 2010 11:03 PM
    How does one remember all this while drunk? this whole thing is totally different from the story the DA told.. he said the room was only seperated by a curtain.. and there was another way into the bathroom.
    Lol this is hilarious…. but hey believe what you want.. the lack of DNA and NO SIGNS of penetration or rape was declared by the DOCTOR.
    Sounds to me JUST like the DA said.. Both Parties were drunk n acted foolishly.
    lmoa he sat her on a stool?LOL and she just let him lead her the way??
    Hahahah the DA said she asked to use THAT bathroom.. what a bunch of garbage.
    ———————————————–
    STILL defending him?!!
    You are trash, just like your QB, because neither of you obviously know any better. Only difference is, you say stupid things and he does stupid things

  285. Rev. Dr. HollywoodWags says: Apr 16, 2010 6:19 AM

    “How is Rapistberger not in prison right now? The legal system in this country is a huge joke.”
    Bill Clinton.

  286. ronmexico7 says: Apr 16, 2010 6:28 AM

    lets face it he is stupid to put himself in this position again – but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
    IF he didnt do it – he now has to live with being called a rapist the rest of his life. and this statement makes me think he didnt rape her. maybe they had sex and she felt guilty afterwards, but thats not rape.
    if youve been raped im pretty sure you know youve been raped – not “kind of raped” and asking for advice on what to do next.

  287. QBall says: Apr 16, 2010 6:49 AM

    If the picture painted by the statements of the accuser and her friends was 100% accurate and supported by the evidence, there can little doubt in anyone’s mind that BB would be facing a mandatory 25-yr. stretch in a Georgia prison, and deservedly so. So, why didn’t the DA even recommend making an arrest? Obviously there was other contradictory evidence and testimony which cast very serious doubt on the veracity of the accuser’s side of the story.
    That said, the Steelers definitely need to sit him for 2-4 games for behaving like a total pig.

  288. DivingDancer says: Apr 16, 2010 6:51 AM

    With only the grand jury’s decision not to indict, it would have been difficult to justify any severe punishment for Roethlisberger. But with this information now in the public record, there is NO way that the NFL or the franchise can escape with their reputations intact unless they smack this piece of human filth back into the gutter that he crawled out of.
    Roethlisberger has clearly established a pattern of behavior. An innocent person doesn’t keep ending up in these situations by accident. Too much smoke for there not to be fire, and the NFL has to know it.
    If they don’t suspend him for a season, the NFL sends a clear signal that it condones rape as long as the guy doing the raping brings in enough revenue from ticket sales and tv advertising.

  289. Skins_Get_It_In says: Apr 16, 2010 7:06 AM

    No mention of a condom?

  290. stetai says: Apr 16, 2010 7:26 AM

    Wow. All I can say is wow. This is hard to believe this is a big star NFL quarterback, and not some scene from an HBO show.
    And people get so pissed at Brett Favre for skipping training camp …

  291. BigBear123 says: Apr 16, 2010 7:58 AM

    Sounds like she was being a tease. Ben took it too far and started to force sex, enough to penetrate which is enough for rape, but Little Ben eventually wizened up and pulled out.
    Too much alcohol and other factors to get criminal charges, likely enough to make a good civil suit so she got a fat check.

  292. IStateYourName says: Apr 16, 2010 7:59 AM

    So does Ben Rotheseburgehergh finish his career with more Super Bowl rings than rape accusations? Score is 2 – 2 right now…

  293. bigunit 1 says: Apr 16, 2010 8:00 AM

    Beyond a reasonable doubt has new meaning by virtue of the lynch mob associated with this blog. Too bad the American public is unable still after 235 years to be able to distinguish between allegations and proof. Thank God for the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Poor Ben. And so very sad for all of you who have yet to experience false allegations against you to a law enforcement agency…sad sad sad.

  294. UckTheFeagles says: Apr 16, 2010 8:00 AM

    These steeler fans are really unbelievable. After everything that has come to light they are STILL defending this piece of garbage.
    Please tell us, do you defend Michael Jackson too? After all he did win multiple grammy’s, and he never was “convicted” of anything.
    Big Ben, the Michael Jackson of the NFL. Be proud steeler fans, real proud. The longer you defend him, the worse it gets.

  295. YP2K says: Apr 16, 2010 8:05 AM

    I wonder if the women’s rights groups will be after Ben Rapistberger just like the PETA folks were after Vick . . .

  296. Ollie says: Apr 16, 2010 8:06 AM

    Hey everyone, I would say get off Deb’s back, but I can tell your stupid comments about her don’t bother her at all. She is a very intellegent woman and makes perfect since.
    She explained that she thinks Ben should be punished and even called him a sleaze. She is just stating her oppinion of the facts and has every right to do that.
    Deb post comments that make since, not stupid remarks and bias oppinions.

  297. Bucforever says: Apr 16, 2010 8:12 AM

    So she dose not want to persue it[the charges] anymore. Sounds like Ben was able to pay her off. Money soothes most all ills. Grow up Ben and keep it in you pants!

  298. swepsgirl18 says: Apr 16, 2010 8:18 AM

    I don’t believe the Steelers have put themselves in a low class I believe Big Ben put HIMSELF in a lower class and the rest of the team are still a far cry better than his punk ass. I will still be a devout Steelers fan but I have no use for him any more. If he stays on the team and wins another SB I will only give the rest of the team credit. Not him. He needs to heed the way the public preceives him. All I know is if he’s ever in Miami and looks at my daughter he will wish the motorcycle had of gotten to him 1st. POS is not even a good enough title for him. CAN HIS ASS!

  299. TonyPSFL says: Apr 16, 2010 8:29 AM

    Rapistberger needs to go to prison. He’ll go in a tight end and come out a wide receiver….

  300. gwinn1952 says: Apr 16, 2010 8:32 AM

    It doesn’t look good for Ben and unfortunately won’t get charged. But…why wasn’t he at least charged with providing alchohol to minors. Or the club being fined for same. Big Ben needs to grown up. Just another example of a athletes who thinks he is entitled.

  301. runtheball says: Apr 16, 2010 9:20 AM

    Way to leave out the DTF and the fact that these girls followed him all over town.

  302. Bdrunk says: Apr 16, 2010 9:22 AM

    Why should these statements have any bearing on the already closed case? The GBI had em for a month of followups and re-interviews, but couldn’t put a case together. Seems to me that was long enough for them to determine the statements were a load of bullshit.
    Oh yeah, nvm, Ben paid everybody off. lol.
    What’s interesting is even if they are a load of bullshit, these statements alone have already ruined him.

  303. RachelTN says: Apr 16, 2010 9:29 AM

    I’m sorry but if you are a 28 year old guy at a bar and you ask some hot girl what her necklace, which says “DTF” means, and she tells you “Down to F^%k”, you’re going to take advantage of that. This girl is a whore who was after a payday which she probably got. They were both hammered and acting like retards, which is not against the law. And for those asking why Ben is not being charged with contributing to a minor, did anyone ever think that this chick had a fake id to get IN to the bar in the first place? And a 20 year old girl looks no different than a 21 year old girl, I seriously doubt Ben asked her for her ID. I am so sick of this story I can’t take anymore of Florio.

  304. homercles82 says: Apr 16, 2010 9:44 AM

    If he was black he would of been suspended already.
    You know it is true.

  305. TheSleepness says: Apr 16, 2010 10:27 AM

    he’s def gonna get suspended the question becomes how long? 2? 4? 6? or 8?
    4 game suspension should suffice. Sucks for the Steelers although I did like what I saw from the limited action of Dixon.

  306. NAACPNOFRIENDOMINE says: Apr 16, 2010 11:05 AM

    Just wanted to say “Rock out with his cock out!”

  307. Gailikk says: Apr 16, 2010 11:55 AM

    I do not believe BR raped that girl. I believe that two drunken adults made very bad decisions that led to this bad situation. That being said, these dumb fans that exonerate BR because the girl is a whore, wore a DTF name tag, or was a gold digger need to Shut the F))) up. We are a society which encourages women to be independent. Don’t be mad because women act like men, society has told them it is alright. Some people need to quite hating a women for acting in ways they don’t find acceptable. This is 2010, we encourage our women to act how they feel, which could be like men, sluts, churchgoers, etc…
    I don’t believe the bodyguards because they have a massive bias (their jobs and future in those jobs). If anything I blame them for this situation since as ‘friends’ of BR they should have looked out for him and prevented him from doing anything. That’s what ‘friends’ are for.
    I also don’t believe the friends of the victim because they were drunk and probably encouraging of the situation.
    I have a word of advice for BR. Try to meet your women at nice functions w/out alcohol. You will find that sober women are more fun to talk with and more enjoyable to have sex with (unless that’s his definition of a lawsuit waiting to happen).
    Also, RebaT and Realitypolice, you are the wind beneath my wings. Thank you.

  308. tango says: Apr 16, 2010 12:28 PM

    BR is a creep and if the Steelers do not cut him loose then they are a creep orginization. The Rooneys spent many many years holding the originization to a higher standard and to remain mute is a signal that standard is no longer applicable.

  309. Facts Domino says: Apr 16, 2010 12:31 PM

    While we know Deb would give Ben and little Ben access to every cavity she has even the 3 she has in her eight teeth, but she needs to stop calling in to the Dan Patrick show and spewing her ignorance over Ben having problems because 2 HC’s and however many OC’s. If that were the case Jason Campbell would be Charles Manson Jr.
    Deb if you want to blame someone blame Ben directly, or his parents for their failures.
    On a side note, how would Ben like it if someone did this to his sister. That is if he hasn’t already exposed her (no pun intended) to this when they grew up.

  310. sacdaddy says: Apr 16, 2010 12:40 PM

    This guy is pure white trash.. everything that has to do with Pittsburgh is white trash… What’s terrible is that Ben raped this girl and he’s getting away with it…He needs a role model, Joe Flacco could teach this guy a few things about character, integrity, and sweet unibrows. Btw, nice try with the pathetic attempt to ride Jared Allens nuts Rapeaburger.. you looked like some washed up backwoods hillbilly.
    Purple and Black for life.. Caw

  311. Deb says: Apr 16, 2010 12:43 PM

    bobzilla says:
    @deb_aka_bens_lawyer: Thanks for speaking for the many of us who have tired of reading all the two-month’s worth of contradictions coming from a know-it-all.
    ——————————————
    I’m thrilled. The know-it-all now has a mini-me. This is the PFT equivalent of an SNL comic sendoff. I’ve hit the bigtime.

  312. Deb says: Apr 16, 2010 12:50 PM

    @Facts Domino …
    Interesting user name for a distortionist.
    So … your concern hear is the Georgia woman? You’re a chivalrous champion for women?
    But your idea of civil debate is to make sexually degrading comments to a woman you don’t know with no provocation.
    And this makes you better than Roethlisberger?

  313. edgy1957 says: Apr 16, 2010 12:51 PM

    Facts Domino says:
    While we know Deb would give Ben and little Ben access to every cavity she has even the 3
    ******************************
    You are no better than Ben. Look, she’s passionate about what she believes in and she doesn’t deserve this kind of crap. This only goes to show that you’re just as much of a misogynist as Ben is.

  314. Deb says: Apr 16, 2010 1:00 PM

    @bobzilla and RebaT ….
    My posts haven’t been contradictory. You’re just not smart enough to understand I’ve been arguing principles not people:
    1. People are innocent until proved guilty in court, not in Florio’s blog.
    2. No matter how sleazy we think a guy’s character is, it doesn’t make him a criminal.
    3. No matter how many melodramatic stories we read, it doesn’t make them accurate. Others–who were sober–have told different tales. That’s why investigators listen to everyone.
    4. Adults are responsible for their actions.
    He’s responsible for being a jackass. SHE is responsible for going out drinking when she was underage, choosing to keep drinking (others don’t “get” you drunk) until she was out of her head, and willingly engaging in sexual conduct with a man she just met (the DA said they’d been doing that all evening).
    My stand has never changed, RebaT: This is not a case of rapist and victim. That’s insulting to real rape victims. This is a sleazy guy and an idiot woman in a sordid mess. As the DA said, plenty of blame to go around. It’s past time the Steelers kicked Ben in the seat of the pants. I’m all for that.

  315. Adam says: Apr 16, 2010 1:42 PM

    Did he ever say he didn’t rape her or just that her recollection isn’t accurate?
    Hell, did he say ANYTHING about this aside from the cop that resigned over this case?

  316. TulsaTom says: Apr 16, 2010 1:52 PM

    The only defense I can think of for Big Ben or any younger guy who shows disrespect for women or personal responsibility is that they watched and learned by the master when they were kids in their formative years and the master is..Bill Clinton.
    Big Ben has more class than Clinton. At least he went into a dingy ladies bar bathroom instead of the highest office in he US for his sexual exploits or some Arkansas political event in high class hotels.
    So what can you expect from kids who had to grow up with the distorted level of proper behavior by people in power.
    Big Ben should not be the QB of the Pittsburgh Steelers. His warning should have been the Las Vegas situation several years ago and his ego was too big to learn from it. And this Steelers fans doesn’t want big egos that destroy the teamwork that holds the Steeler Nation together.

  317. tryagain says: Apr 16, 2010 2:18 PM

    RachelTN says: I’m sorry but if you are a 28 year old guy at a bar and you ask some hot girl what her necklace, which says “DTF” means, and she tells you “Down to F^%k”, you’re going to take advantage of that.
    First off, you’re giving the name Rachel a bad rap with your comments. Even though you and I may not feel wearing something like DTF is a smart thing, it doesn’t give anyone a right to take advantage. A guy who works near my house at the gas station had a shirt on that says I have a PHD with ‘pretty huge dick’ written in small letters below it. Does that mean I have the right to hop the counter and yank his pants down and see for myself? (I don’t think he’d mind, but that’s beside the point.) I’m not saying Ben raped her, but I’m sure not saying he didn’t. The point is if, in fact, she said ‘no’- anything and everything said/insinuated before then is null and void and the ‘no’ trumps it all.

  318. Ollie says: Apr 16, 2010 2:20 PM

    Its simple! Suspend him for four games and see what Dixon can do. Ben will do some serious thinking while standing on the sideline.
    If the Steelers go 4-0, Ben will really sweat.
    This is a good chance to teach Ben a lesson and see if Dixon is the real deal.
    I think Ben has learned his lesson this time. If not then simply ship him on.

  319. Facts Domino says: Apr 16, 2010 2:29 PM

    Just calling them like I see em.
    You must have interpreted it as sexually degrading, while the only thing degrading was a reference to a cavity infested mouth.
    But you can’t ignore the facts. Blame Ben and the so-called parents that attempted to raise him. That is where the problem is.
    Edgy,
    I hate ignorance, not women. But I do not care for ignorant women, or men. So you just put yourself in her category.

  320. frox says: Apr 16, 2010 2:31 PM

    I don’t have time to read 325 comments so I appologize if this was mentioned before but here is one MAJOR issue that I have that has not been brought up anywhere that I have seen. These bodyguards were not in fact bodyguards but off-duty police officers. These men are supposed to be protecting people not taking 20 year old highly intoxicated women into back rooms so the star QB can rock out with his c**k out and then preventing the girl’s friends from checking on her. An argument can be made that what they did is worse than Ben because they set up the entire thing and then prevented someone from breaking it up. Why is no one calling these guys out?

  321. Deb says: Apr 16, 2010 2:44 PM

    @Adam …
    Ben never said he’d had any sexual contact with the woman. He told the police he remembered the girl and had told her she was too drunk to be back in that area with him and that he thought she’d fallen and hit her head. (But the medical exam found no head injury.) At that point, someone in Ben’s party (the DA thought it was his agent) said Ben shouldn’t say anything else without his lawyer (probably because of the Nevada situation.
    The DA said there were many witnesses that said the two of them were engaged in sexual conversation and conduct all evening in the VIP area that was definitely a two-way street–“him to her, her to him.” But he said he wouldn’t go into the “salacious” details.
    The DA said they were both intoxicated and so were the sorority sisters. He said only the bodyguards were sober. He said the whole thing was alcohol fueled and there was plenty of blame to go around–including to the sorority sisters. He also said the bodyguard was blocking the entrance to the VIP area, not the bathroom, but the club owner showed the sorority sisters another way to go back and check on their friend but they never went.
    The DA said he hoped both Ben and the woman learned something from the experience. That does not sound like a prosecutor who thinks a rapist is getting away for lack of evidence. The last thing he said before leaving the room was: “I prosecute crime, not sin.”

  322. Deb says: Apr 16, 2010 2:52 PM

    @frox …
    ESPN cut off the DA’s press conference after 16 minutes. Later in the 71-minute press conference, a reporter asked Bright to clarify the bodyguard’s role. He said the woman asked the bodyguard to show her the way to the bathroom. The bodyguard took her back and showed her into the toilet. Then he came back. The DA said he was not guarding the bathroom and that the officer said he did not know Ben was back there. The DA said the officer was guarding the curtained entrance to the VIP area. The DA said the only people who were sober that night were the two police officers, who were also the designated drivers. In their statements, which Florio hasn’t posted, they said they did not know the woman was back there and saw nothing to indicate anything criminal had happened that night.
    There was more to the investigation than the statements of a woman who initially said she had not been raped and couldn’t even remember if she’d had sex and the statements of her sorority sisters–who the DA said were also very drunk.
    It’s they said/they said.
    The club owner said he showed the sorority sisters (he also showed the DA) another entrance to the VIP area so they could go easily bypass the bodyguard to go check on their friend. The club owner said the girls never bothered to go back there.
    Two sides to every story.

  323. shiftyshellshocked says: Apr 16, 2010 3:09 PM

    It comes down to this. Ben has no common sense. The guy has a one hundred million dollar contract with a franchise like the Steelers, two Super Bowl titles and he’s running around with his dick in his hand in a bar. There is no way anyone ,including diehard Steeler fans, that can justify this guilty or not. Totally unprofessional. He will be the laughing stock of the NFL for as long as he plays. Might have had a chance at the hall of fame, thats done for sure. It’s too bad. Skol Vikes.

  324. Deb says: Apr 16, 2010 3:13 PM

    @Facts Domino …
    Ignorance, by definition, is unlearned, lacking in knowledge, unaware, or choosing to ignore information. I am many things, but ignorant isn’t one of them. I’ve been over every speck of authoritative information in this case. You, on the other hand, are calling it as you see it without bothering to check any facts. You’re relying only on the few tumbled ideas that can fit in your own pea brain. The woman in this case is an adult. She is responsible for her actions that night. Ben is also an adult and responsible for his. His father and stepmother have nothing to do with it.
    Don’t fret. I know all of that was over your head.
    Since you’re incapable of informed, civil discussion, you make degrading sexual comments to women about giving little Ben access to their orafices. But you’re just living vicarious thrills through your keyboard. I doubt anything as repulsive as you has had access to any non-plastic orafices in years … if ever.
    So go ahead and continue your keyboard masturbation, you sad little excuse for a man. Try not to moan so loudly the boss hears.

  325. hotchick says: Apr 16, 2010 3:43 PM

    Why do so many people think Ben can’t be the face of the Steelers any more because he’s a POS. But the Rams, they’d be happy to have the POS as the “face” of their franchise? Its not like the Rams (or the Raiders for that matter) are a POS QB away from the Super Bowl (or evena deep run in the playoffs).
    “face” in quotes due to S-Jax.

  326. gurnblanston says: Apr 16, 2010 3:57 PM

    Roethlisberger is a punk. The Steelers should cut him and then the commissioner should announce a Pacman or Vick type of indefinite suspension so that no team can sign him until he has done something, anything, to demonstrate that he’s not an overgrown, drunken frat boy looking for the nearest bike or coed to ride!
    Of course, this probably won’t happen. More likely, he’ll find Jesus, get married, have kids, finish his career and the NFL Network will give him a job to prep for his teary-eyed, father-of-the-year Hall of Fame acceptance speech ala Michael Irvin.
    Imagine keeping your high-paid, high-profile job (or any job outside of Congress) after explaining to your boss that, you know, we had a few, my johnson came out and the girl did what she does – you know, man, no harm, no foul. I just did what any professional would do in that situation. Alright, boss? And, hey, what’s up with the new receptionist?
    Hail!

  327. HughJohnson says: Apr 16, 2010 4:01 PM

    Pittsburgh, PA (AP) April 17, 2015-
    “CNN Reports Ex-NFL QB Roethlesberger Arrested for Alleged Rape of Parole Officer.”

  328. DrStarks says: Apr 16, 2010 4:12 PM

    I am so pleased to the the comments posted here. Because at the end of the day, this guy is a rapist. And the power of the Rooney’s strike again. Ask Obama about the power of the Rooney family. I am sick of hearing NFL fans and media talking about the class the Rooney family operates with in regards to their organization. It makes me sick that they (the Rooney’s) got this idiot off………again. They are an organization that has skirted the rules for decades. I sure you all know about the “accusations” of rampant steriod use during the 70’s. The Rooney Rule does not exempt that family from their “indescretions”.
    I have a question for each person on this site. Take some of the worst behavior you have ever exhibited. Should you be emotionally scarred the rest of your life because of it? Should getting drunk in a club while hanging in the VIP section with a celebrity, make a woman deserving of rape?
    Throw me in the mix of people who have done stupid things in life. But we will not go into that (thankfully). Take something as “harmless” as speeding. I mean SPEEDING! Racing down a highway or street in a rocket posing as a car. One bad mistake and you are dead or paralyzed. One bad mistake and SOMEONE ELSE is dead or paralyzed. Cut the “she put herself in that position” BS. She according to her account, SAID NO. End of story. The NFL allowed a guy who looks up kiddie porn for “research” (yeah right) on his computer and gets convicted for it. They allow old dirty Pete to perform at the halftime show of the SuperBowl. And now they will allow a rapist to play football.
    Conduct policy, was never about conduct. It was about white owners reassuring white investors, season ticket holders and sponsors that the “black thugs” won’t ruin the brand. Money generated by white season ticket holders was down 5 of the last 8 years. Goddell’s hire was based on that. He is the hired gun for the 32 white owners. Ben should be in jail. He has a night on the town, and one girl ends up raped, and a cop loses his career. He’s a M67 grenade. And very soon he will blow up…….again. Next time, hopefully, he will be the only one blown to bits. Also, I am as white as they come. So do not throw that race card garbage at me. This was an easy call, it does not take a woman or a black person to read this one. Now back to work, I have papers to grade. G_d Bless you. And G_d Bless that young lady.

  329. HughJohnson says: Apr 16, 2010 4:15 PM

    Deb, thanks for checking your morals at the door to defend this tool. Hope he spelled your name right on the check.

  330. wferg1121 says: Apr 16, 2010 4:53 PM

    Dear NY GIANT’s
    Thank you for trading for Eli Manning, it’s starting to look like he is the best QB of that draft class. Ben could have easily been our problem, and we may have already started looking for Franchise QB again. Thank You

  331. bobzilla says: Apr 16, 2010 5:22 PM

    @wyoff: The reason SteelersNation isn’t about to discard anything Super Bowl XL or XLIII related is because an entire team won those games. Last I checked, they’re called “the Pittsburgh Steelers,” not the “Pittsburgh Roethlisbergers.”
    When I watch Steelers football, which I do religiously, I’m in it for the name on the front of the jerseys, not the names on the back of the jerseys.
    @Deb: I have no idea what you wrote, because, quite frankly I don’t give a damn, but know this: Anyone who has claimed to have been sexually abused but still defends that piece of trash is twisted.
    For weeks you have suggested that Roethlisberger and his buddies were just out for a drive in the country. You came to that conclusion because a restaurant owner was quoted as saying that Ben and boys were so nice and friendly.
    Meanwhile, you trashed those from Pittsburgh who have been familar over the years with Roethlisberger’s bad behavior. Me and others were only offering from insight. Yet you called me “twisted.”
    Hey, Deb: F–k you!!!

  332. Annuvin says: Apr 16, 2010 6:31 PM

    Let’s look at the facts in the two cases:
    In Nevada, a woman who had sex with Ben Roethlisberger claimed she was in fact raped. She never filed a police report, nor had herself examined after the alleged incident. Further investigation turns up emails/texts from the alleged victim to her friends claiming it was “the best sex she ever had” and that she hoped she’d be pregnant. No physical evidence was ever found to prove this was anything but consentual, and the DA declined to prosecute. The alleged victim has a lawsuit pending in Nevada against Roethlisberger.
    In Georgia, a 20 year old woman wearing a nametag with “DTF” (“Down to F**K”) on it, gets into a bar and proceeds to get excessively drunk. She then was allegedly taken to a bathroom and raped by Ben Roethlisberger. The woman cannot make a statement to cofirm that she was raped, and had to be told by her drunken friends that that was in fact what happened to her. Again, no physical evidence was found to prove her friends’ claims, and the alleged victim’s statments were inconsistant with the allegations made by her friends. Her friends, despite “knowing” she was being raped by Roethlisberger, did not call 911 or do much of anything to intervene. The next day, the alleged victim makes further statements that match what her friends claim happened to her. The DA, once again finding glaring inconsistancies with the witness statements and no physical evidence, declines to prosecute.
    Despite the fact that both cases have enough reasonable doubt that any lawyer could get a not guilty verdict for Ben, you lot are ready to burn Roethlisberger at the stake because:
    a) You hate the team he plays for
    b) They put Dawgkilla away and this is a more serious allegation
    c) He’s white
    d) You have a daughter
    e) He must have “paid off” the DA
    e) All of the above
    Dawgkilla CONFESSED to federal rcketeering, and running an interstate dogfighting ring. He further stated he tortured multiple animals to death in some of the most inhumane ways he could think of, and served federal time as a result of his actions. Since his release, a lot of you think he deserve a second chance at playing in the NFL because he “paid his debt to society.” Roethlisberger, by comparison, has admitted to having sex with a drunken college girl and has yet to be indicted or convicted of anything remotely illegal. However, most of you want to see him tossed out of the league and thrown in prison for the rest of his life.
    It’s just awesome how America has forgotten the basic tenant of “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.” You people should be embarassed of yourselves. No wonder your Government is eroding your basic rights out from under your noses. It would seem most of you don’t believe in them to begin with.

  333. Annuvin says: Apr 16, 2010 6:32 PM

    Let’s look at the facts in the two cases:
    In Nevada, a woman who had sex with Ben Roethlisberger claimed she was in fact raped. She never filed a police report, nor had herself examined after the alleged incident. Further investigation turns up emails/texts from the alleged victim to her friends claiming it was “the best sex she ever had” and that she hoped she’d be pregnant. No physical evidence was ever found to prove this was anything but consentual, and the DA declined to prosecute. The alleged victim has a lawsuit pending in Nevada against Roethlisberger.
    In Georgia, a 20 year old woman wearing a nametag with “DTF” (“Down to F**K”) on it, gets into a bar and proceeds to get excessively drunk. She then was allegedly taken to a bathroom and raped by Ben Roethlisberger. The woman cannot make a statement to cofirm that she was raped, and had to be told by her drunken friends that that was in fact what happened to her. Again, no physical evidence was found to prove her friends’ claims, and the alleged victim’s statments were inconsistant with the allegations made by her friends. Her friends, despite “knowing” she was being raped by Roethlisberger, did not call 911 or do much of anything to intervene. The next day, the alleged victim makes further statements that match what her friends claim happened to her. The DA, once again finding glaring inconsistancies with the witness statements and no physical evidence, declines to prosecute.
    Despite the fact that both cases have enough reasonable doubt that any lawyer could get a not guilty verdict for Ben, you lot are ready to burn Roethlisberger at the stake because:
    a) You hate the team he plays for
    b) They put Dawgkilla away and this is a more serious allegation
    c) He’s white
    d) You have a daughter
    e) He must have “paid off” the DA
    e) All of the above
    Dawgkilla CONFESSED to federal rcketeering, and running an interstate dogfighting ring. He further stated he tortured multiple animals to death in some of the most inhumane ways he could think of, and served federal time as a result of his actions. Since his release, a lot of you think he deserve a second chance at playing in the NFL because he “paid his debt to society.” Roethlisberger, by comparison, has admitted to having sex with a drunken college girl and has yet to be indicted or convicted of anything remotely illegal. However, most of you want to see him tossed out of the league and thrown in prison for the rest of his life.
    It’s just awesome how America has forgotten the basic tenant of “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.” You people should be embarassed of yourselves. No wonder your Government is eroding your basic rights out from under your noses. It would seem most of you don’t believe in them to begin with.

  334. Facts Domino says: Apr 16, 2010 6:35 PM

    Deb,
    You define ignorance. Your posts defending this hump define ignorance. Yes he’s an adult, and you try to place equal blame on this intoxicated girl. That is part of you problem.
    Maybe you can call back into Dan Patrick and get laughed at again.
    What was your take in the Vick case? Did you blame the dogs? Or do you support that piece of shit too? If so, then STFU!

  335. troll_aikman8 says: Apr 16, 2010 7:09 PM

    Chris Hansen: Ben, why don’t you have a seat right over here. And why are you naked?

  336. troll_aikman8 says: Apr 16, 2010 7:44 PM

    Vick’s dogs had DTF collar tags (down to fight).
    Doesn’t make it okay to rape. Roethlisberger needs to do time. Hard time.

  337. bobzilla says: Apr 16, 2010 8:18 PM

    @Deb: Who in the hell anointed you Chief of the Morals Police?
    You are a typical liberal: You’re the smartest person in the room and the only one who’s allowed to have an opinion.
    I stated here weeks ago that Roethlisberger probably wasn’t going to get charged, but that really didn’t matter. What mattered was his bad behavior in public, which was gonna get him suspended and/or traded.
    You, of course, hurled insults at me, like you do to others and accused me of not being a “true” Steelers fan. When I suggested that Your Boy Ben was a disgrace to Steelers football, you called me a digrace as a human being.
    I’ve got news for ya: True Steelers fans don’t and won’t support a creep. The uproar here in Pittsburgh is overwhelming. There are “Ben Must Go” signs in storefronts.
    What are they sayin’ in Flordia?
    Hey, it doesn’t matter!!!!

  338. spliffbunker says: Apr 16, 2010 8:53 PM

    Deb:
    i have all the respect in the world for you & cant beleive the hatred in some of the comments…i have never gotten the impression that you are defending Ben’s behaviour or that your being a Steeler fan has colored your thinking
    as you said you are defending a principle
    that said we have sure gotten a lot more information about that night in the last few days
    to me Ben’s behaviour really points to a deep rooted misogony…we now know of 3 incidents..Nevada,Georgia & the new allegation in the GBI report
    plus the allegations in that radio interveiw of a week ago that the lawyer backed off from..it will be a major suprise if there arent more to follow
    given these patterns of behavior it sure seems possible to me that Ben may be a serial sex offender…putting aside IUPG do you think Ben is just a drunken moron with no social skills or do you think this pattern points to something much darker?
    I do feel bad for Steeler fans BTW…I loved watching him play even though he knocked us out of a Super Bowl…but at this point I cant see myself ever enjoying watching him play let alone wishing him any success

  339. KingHoople says: Apr 16, 2010 9:29 PM

    ASSHOLE

  340. Deb says: Apr 16, 2010 10:41 PM

    @bobzilla …
    The first time we interacted, YOU addressed me. You misrepresented my post (some things never change) and the facts of the Georgia case, claimed I was defending Roethlisberger, and told me my opinion was “beyond logic.”
    I told you I was relying only on official releases in the case and was not insisting–as you said–that Ben was a victim, only that he was innocent until proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt … a concept you don’t seem to understand. You continued to post aggressive retorts, finally ridiculing me about being a rape victim (again, some things never change). I said:
    “Yes, it’s so much fun ‘professing’ to be a rape victim. It was so much fun going through it, too.” I also told you, “I have no doubt Ben Roethlisberger can be a real jackass … just as you’re being when you try to rub salt in a deep wound. That doesn’t necessarily make him a sexual predator.
    I’ve never said I find being a jackass acceptable. It’s not acceptable when he’s rude to fans, makes racist jokes to waiters, or disses Make-A-Wish kids. It’s not acceptable when you needle a rape survivor. But those behaviors aren’t criminal, either. My concern as a rape survivor is seeing that REAL abusers are punished and that predators are locked up for life or executed (which, unfortunately, isn’t really an option). So far, no one has presented EVIDENCE that Roethlisberger has been either an abuser or a predator.”
    That has not changed. I’m not defending Roethlisberger; I’m defending principles that you’re either too stupid or too immature to understand.
    The tantrums you have thrown at me on this board have completely distorted my position on Roethlisberger as well as the discussion we had previously. Put simply: You are a liar.
    I’ve never trashed the people of Pittsburgh nor denied their reports of Ben’s bad behavior. In fact, I’ve said repeatedly that even if he’s suspended, the Rooneys should still require Ben to perform year-round service to the community of Pittsburgh to make up for his rudeness to the fans. Except you. You don’t deserve any consideration from anyone. Not even Ben. You are every bit the lowlife you claim he is. Liars who verbally abuse women are just as bad as sleazes who fool around with drunks in bathrooms.
    As for my fandom, I have a personal letter on my wall from Dan Rooney that ends by him telling me to keep rooting for the Steelers. What you think–or what you would think if you could think–is irrelevant.

  341. Deb says: Apr 16, 2010 11:14 PM

    @highjack78 …
    You hope a 20-year-old woman has herpes because it will serve Ben right?
    Well, that pretty much sums up the genuine concern for the “victim” by the outraged moral majority posting on PFT.

  342. Deb says: Apr 16, 2010 11:21 PM

    @bobzilla …
    The first time we interacted, YOU addressed me. You misrepresented my post (some things never change) and the facts of the Georgia case, claimed I was defending Roethlisberger, and told me my opinion was “beyond logic.”
    I told you I was relying only on official releases in the case and was not insisting–as you said–that Ben was a victim, only that he was innocent until proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt … a concept you don’t seem to understand. You continued to post aggressive retorts, finally ridiculing me about being a rape victim (again, some things never change). I said:
    “Yes, it’s so much fun ‘professing’ to be a rape victim. It was so much fun going through it, too.” I also told you, “I have no doubt Ben Roethlisberger can be a real jackass … just as you’re being when you try to rub salt in a deep wound. That doesn’t necessarily make him a sexual predator. I’ve never said I find being a jackass acceptable. It’s not acceptable when he’s rude to fans, makes racist jokes to waiters, or disses Make-A-Wish kids. It’s not acceptable when you needle a rape survivor. But those behaviors aren’t criminal, either. My concern as a rape survivor is seeing that REAL abusers are punished and that predators are locked up for life or executed (which, unfortunately, isn’t really an option). So far, no one has presented EVIDENCE that Roethlisberger has been either an abuser or a predator.”
    That has not changed. I’m not defending Roethlisberger; I’m defending principles that you’re either too stupid or too immature to understand.
    The tantrums you have thrown at me on this board have completely distorted my position on Roethlisberger as well as the discussion we had previously. Put simply: You are a liar.
    I’ve never trashed the people of Pittsburgh nor denied their reports of Ben’s bad behavior. In fact, I’ve said repeatedly that even if he’s suspended, the Rooneys should still require Ben to perform year-round service to the community of Pittsburgh to make up for his rudeness to the fans. Except you. You don’t deserve any consideration from anyone. Not even Ben. You are every bit the lowlife you claim he is. Liars who verbally abuse women are just as bad as sleazes who fool around with drunks in bathrooms.
    As for my fandom, I have a personal letter on my wall from Dan Rooney that ends by him telling me to keep rooting for the Steelers. What you think–or what you would think if you could think–is irrelevant.

  343. .RebaT says: Apr 17, 2010 12:09 AM

    DEB,
    PLEASE try to limit your postings to 500 words. Look back at the board… maybe they should just call it “Deb”. Apparently you have no job or your boss needs to check how many times you go to this website. God forbid you are self-employed. You make NO money being OBSESSED with Ben Rapistberger!
    You are SO jealous of this girl! You want to be blocked in a bathroom stall by a 300 monster with Ben exposing himself coming at you. Oh yeah. Then he pins you against the wall forcing himself on you. All you can think is that I’m messing with a SB QB! “You know you want it!”
    One thing no one has said, what happens if the girl ends up pregnant and the DNA test shows it’s Ben? BOY DO YOU LOOK LIKE A FOOL!

  344. .RebaT says: Apr 17, 2010 12:32 AM

    Deb,
    Who cares if you have a letter from Dan Rooney. You are one piece of trash that can’t stop writing. BOY do you want attention.
    What YOU think is irrelevant.

  345. Facts Domino says: Apr 17, 2010 12:33 AM

    Deb,
    Talking about irrelevant. That is exactly what you are.
    You can’t spew your garbage and blind love and then play the back track, well i’m sure Ben can be a jerk game. Thanks Sherlock. That has been rather obvious.
    Again, let me rephrase for you. STFU!

  346. JunkYardDogg1156 says: Apr 17, 2010 8:56 AM

    UBBALLER8 says: April 15, 2010 11:16 PM
    I’d rather have a team of Michael Vicks over a piece of shit like Rapelisberger. At least Vick didn’t rape, or do anything to harm human beings.
    ———————–
    YOU ARE AN IDIOT – besides setting sick animals on fire & laughing about it he changed his name to Ron Mexico & infected women with VD, but thats nothing to humans right? TRY READING about your hero before posting
    # YP2K says: April 16, 2010 8:05 AM
    I wonder if the women’s rights groups will be after Ben Rapistberger just like the PETA folks were after Vick . . .
    ———————————————
    VICK is a serial animal killer – he deserves what he gets – he’s no f-ing good – So does Ben but stop using this to minimize MV’s behavior.
    # homercles82 says: April 16, 2010 9:44 AM
    If he was black he would of been suspended already –
    You know it is true.
    —————————-
    the only thing true is you’re a racist trying to stir race bating BS – you are referring to Pacman & way off base – when Ben gets arrested multiple times, he’ll be suspended too, the NFL is working on putting in a morals clause for players that are offenders & haven’t BEEN ARRESTED
    Annuvin says: April 16, 2010 6:31 PM
    Dawgkilla CONFESSED to federal rcketeering, and running an interstate dogfighting ring. He further stated he tortured multiple animals to death in some of the most inhumane ways he could think of, and served federal time as a result of his actions.
    ————————————————-
    He didn’t CONFESS, he was backed into a corner & the people he was supporting (family & homies) told the truth about MV’s involvement, before that MV lied to EVERYONE about his actions – he deserves what he gets.
    BOTH of these guys are scumbags – Ben for his accusers (where there’s smoke there’s fire usually) – MV for his TORTURE & SERIAL KILLING of sick animals.
    I hope Ben gets what he deserves – both of the girls aren’t lying – but that doesn’t discount MV’s sub-human behavior of creatures that had NO CHOICE – to take advantage of anything that cannot defend itself is SICK!
    The only common thread between the 2 guys mentioned here is the NFL & the QB position, other than that, they have no link at all!
    Here is the bottom line people – Stop using Ben to defend MV’s actions!

  347. bobzilla says: Apr 17, 2010 9:55 AM

    @Deb: Once again, too long and too boring to read. I am sure whatever you wrote, it was laced with personal attacks.
    As I’ve stated before: Go f–k yourself.
    I’m just gonna sit back now and enjoy the hammering you’re receiving. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving “queen of mean.”

  348. Profanity in ALL CAPS says: Apr 17, 2010 10:44 AM

    i don’t know if somebody got this already. this is a record for comments i’ve seen.
    “Pants on the ground, pants on the ground, lookin like rapist with your pants on the ground!”
    did he slap jared allen’s ass after he had his dick out too?
    ohhhh boy, he’s taking out his penis!
    /south park

  349. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: Apr 17, 2010 11:33 AM

    I hear Willie Colon is getting sick of being passed over at these sausage parties.

  350. Deb says: Apr 17, 2010 3:14 PM

    @RebaT …
    Hi, Ms. Pot. Kettle, here. Reading my posts overtaxing your pickled brain? Sorry. Just don’t fall off your barstool. Maybe if you’d had one of those DTF necklaces, Ben wouldn’t have brushed you off. Ah well, too late now. He probably won’t be spending much time in the Pittsburgh bars from now on. But keep trying. You’re bound to get some action eventually. You know what they say … all the girls get prettier at closing time. Sooner or later that will prove true for you.

  351. Deb says: Apr 17, 2010 3:16 PM

    @Facts Domino …
    Thanks for making my day! The last refuge for people who have no intellectual comeback: STFU.

  352. Deb says: Apr 17, 2010 5:16 PM

    Absolutely, “Facts.”
    You’ve been shown up as someone feigning knowledge about facts you never researched. Left with nothing intelligent to say, you’ve resorted to grade-school name-calling. The best part is that your pretended concern for women–which was never anything more than using rape as an excuse to bash a football team–is revealed for what it is by the words you use. Anyone who didn’t already know you for what you are knows now.

  353. niko2012 says: Apr 17, 2010 5:45 PM

    How much do you think the victim was paid to change her mind about testifying .. or maybe she was just plain intimidated into forgetting about it.

  354. Deb says: Apr 17, 2010 6:19 PM

    @niko2012 …
    She changed from saying several times that night that she was not raped to saying she was. In the letter she wrote to say she did not want to pursue the case, she said she was not backing off her accusation. If someone were going to pay her off or intimidate her, they would have expected her to withdraw the accusation. She did not.
    The DA said even with her testimony, he did not have enough probable cause for an arrest, let alone enough evidence for conviction. If you’re interested in following the facts of the case rather than just the few titillating details published on PFT, you can listen to the DA’s entire press conference here:
    http://kdka.com/video/?id=71073@kdka.dayport.com

  355. Deb says: Apr 17, 2010 7:22 PM

    @spliffbunker …
    Apologies … just saw your post to me. Was too caught up with the children to notice the adult.
    The evidence in Nevada hasn’t changed. That still appears to be an extortion plot. Georgia said that after what I believe was some kind of unconsummated sexual encounter, he left without saying anything. A man doesn’t have to assault a woman to make her feel disposable. My guess is that’s how he makes some women feel.
    I don’t know that it’s misogyny. Based on the stories coming out of Pittsburgh, he seems to treat men the same way. Rather than hating women, he seems to have an overall attitude of extreme entitlement. On the other hand, Rich Eisen was talking about how he can also be very polite and gracious. And there are many reports of him doing good works.
    The reports are extremely conflicting–almost Jekyll and Hydish. That makes me wonder if there is an alcohol-abuse issue or some kind of personality disorder. And it’s why I don’t think suspension is a definitive answer. For a long time, I thought he just needed some serious PR assistance. But now I think he would benefit from counseling–if for no other reason than to find out why he’d engage in such risky behavior with another lawsuit pending. When you think about it, his playing style is also about taking unnecessary risks that could shorten his career. Therapy can’t hurt and might help.
    Legally speaking, though, I haven’t seen reliable evidence of rape–a lot of hysterical speculation and ranting, but no evidence. Just a serial jackass playing with fire.

  356. Facts Domino says: Apr 17, 2010 8:05 PM

    DFC,
    All you have proven is that you are a wanna know it all which certainly isn’t saying much…….
    Don’t act like know me or even have one tiny clue about me, because you would be wrong yet again. Something I’m sure you are used to.
    So I’ll let you return to your make believe world since you seem to have a passion for making things up.

  357. Deb says: Apr 17, 2010 9:11 PM

    Right, Fats …
    And you know me. I’m just another cunt who wants her orafices filled. That’s all you’ve had to say from the get-go, isn’t it. You are what you are.

  358. bodhisattva says: Apr 18, 2010 7:36 AM

    The whole situation stinks and will also serve as yet another barrier for women who are victims of sexual assult to be taken seriously. For it to concern an NFL Quarterback from a premier franchise like the steelers is a PR nightmare. The guy will be roasted and forever tainted with this. Sexual assult just isn’t cool kids….

  359. bodhisattva says: Apr 18, 2010 7:37 AM

    niko2012 says:
    April 17, 2010 5:45 PM
    How much do you think the victim was paid to change her mind about testifying .. or maybe she was just plain intimidated into forgetting about it.
    This.

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