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Despite being tried for sexual assault, Chmura was never suspended

In response to our most recent item regarding the fact that the NFL never has suspended a player under the Personal Conduct Policy who was not arrested or charged, a reader pointed out the case of Packers tight end Mark Chmura.

And so we hopped in the DeLorean (Lee Iacocca’s biggest failure) and went back in time by nearly a decade.

In early 2001, Chmura was tried for raping his 17-year-old babysitter at a post-prom party.  After a full-blown trial, Chmura was acquitted.

After the proceedings concluded, Commissioner Paul Tagliabue determined that punishment was not warranted, and Tagliabue immediately reinstated Chmura.

Though Chmura never played again, due in large part to a neck injury that limited him to only two games in his final season of 1999, the fact that he received an immediate green light to return to the NFL is jarring in light of the current atmosphere regarding player misconduct.

And while Chmura’s case constitutes the kind of precedent that would carry weight in a court of law, the NFL has adopted a far different attitude since then.  Today, a player who shows up at an after-prom party after a night of heavy drinking and gets accused of raping a 17-year-old girl would never play again in the NFL, for reasons other than a neck injury.

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36 Responses to “Despite being tried for sexual assault, Chmura was never suspended”
  1. 65TossPowerTrap says: Apr 17, 2010 12:24 PM

    Gee, a former ambulance chaser (Tagliabue) like you, Florio, decided that punishment was not warranted. No surprise there. New red-headed sheriff in town now, Flo-Mo. Don’t expect the same result.

  2. Bob Buckowski says: Apr 17, 2010 12:25 PM

    “Lee Iacocca’s biggest failure”
    Dude, that was a fellow named John DeLorean (hence the name). A wealthy GM exec who opened his own car company and died broke.
    Geez, you’re slipping pal, I think you did jump the shark.

  3. Tibor says: Apr 17, 2010 12:27 PM

    Look at Leonard Little. He killed a women while drunk, got barely any jail time, and was back in the NFL.
    Thankfully that murdering SOB would be gone if that happened today.

  4. ForceEight says: Apr 17, 2010 12:27 PM

    And isn’t that a good thing?

  5. Doohickey says: Apr 17, 2010 12:33 PM

    Was that Iacocca comment supposed to be a reference from The Office?
    Too subtle to be effective. Stick with Seinfeld.

  6. Wick says: Apr 17, 2010 12:55 PM

    so apparently “gets accused” equals “would never play again.” Just get accused – it’s over then.
    jeez – unreal. all one needs to lose their career/livelihood is to simply be in the wrong place and get accused.
    wow. amazing how some people get full wood over PC times like this.

  7. Slow Joe says: Apr 17, 2010 12:59 PM

    Today, a player who shows up at an after-prom party after a night of heavy drinking and gets accused of raping a 17-year-old girl would never play again in the NFL, for reasons other than a neck injury.
    You’re taking quite a leap there, don’t you think? In the scenario you discuss, you leave out the possibility that the hypothetical player is completely innocent. There are girls who accuse rich players of such actions for monetary gain, you know. I’m sure even in this new environment in the NFL, the decision makers would take that into consideration.

  8. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 17, 2010 12:59 PM

    “Bob Buckowski says:
    April 17, 2010 12:25 PM
    “Lee Iacocca’s biggest failure”
    Dude, that was a fellow named John DeLorean (hence the name). A wealthy GM exec who opened his own car company and died broke.
    Geez, you’re slipping pal, I think you did jump the shark.”
    From Wiki:
    Iacocca is mentioned in the Season 3 episode of The Office, “Cocktails”, when CFO David Wallace pours glasses of 20-year scotch given to him by Lee Iacocca for a few of his guests. Michael Scott toasts Iacocca saying, “Here’s to Mr. Iacocca and his failed experiment… The DeLorean.”[20]

  9. maclin19 says: Apr 17, 2010 1:01 PM

    @ Bob Buckowski
    It’s a reference to something Michael said on the Office, dumbass.

  10. Flash Gordon QB NY Jets says: Apr 17, 2010 1:07 PM

    Jumping the shark in a K Car! (laff like Alf) HAAAA!

  11. nerd says: Apr 17, 2010 1:26 PM

    The main difference with Chmura (and Little?) is that with them, there was only ONE incident. There did not seem to be a consistent pattern of disturbing behavior. At least not that came to light publicly.

  12. akuehn713 says: Apr 17, 2010 1:27 PM

    That is misleading, he was acquitted because a number of witnesses stepped forward and said the “victim” consented.

  13. bluestree says: Apr 17, 2010 1:38 PM

    @Tibor; More than anything else, I think the Leonard Little case got us to this point, although it took a while for public anger over the case to sink in. The activism of that victim’s family and others got the NFL’s attention, and set the stage for the Goodell era. One of the first things Goodell did was put out the “new sheriff in town” memo.
    @Wick; what does this have to do with being PC? We’re not discussing anything remotely “political”. This is not about PC, it’s about PR…public relations.
    Here’s another scenario where conviction doesn’t matter. Say I’m a local businessman and I get caught with kiddy porn on my computer. Me and my Commodore 64 are loaded into a cop car, but on the way to the station the car is hit by lightning and my hard drive is wiped clean. I do not get booked, I do not get charged. But I am out of business. It’s my word against two cops with singed eyebrows, but I’m out of business just the same.
    In this case PC does not mean “Politically Correct”, it means “the Perception of Criminality”.

  14. MasterShake says: Apr 17, 2010 1:39 PM

    You expect guys to start carding chicks before we bang them? What if she has a fake ID?
    Grass on the field, play ball!
    Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed!

  15. funi says: Apr 17, 2010 1:55 PM

    “One incident”? SHE WAS 17 IDIOT! I bet Favre got in that action!

  16. Pier588 says: Apr 17, 2010 1:57 PM

    The rapist from the University of Washington plays on the Bucs – Jeremy “I can’t block an old lady in a wheel chair even with Winslow Jr double teaming” Stevens.
    The only thing Stevens ever hit was “On May 4, 2001, Stevens was cited for reckless driving and hit and run after crashing into a nursing home. Stevens pleaded guilty to hit-and-run and causing property damage and was sentenced to 240 hours of community service.”

  17. Bob Buckowski says: Apr 17, 2010 2:26 PM

    @ maclin19
    Funny!
    your Mom thinks I’m pretty smart tho……..

  18. Herschel Walkers says: Apr 17, 2010 2:29 PM

    He would maybe never play again in the NFL, but he would still be lauded in Wisconsin. He’s due to be inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame in July, afterall.
    Brett Favre must be rolling in his grave.

  19. JimmySmith says: Apr 17, 2010 3:21 PM

    Come on Florio, report the full story. First and foremost, Chmura maintained he didn’t do it and it went to a jury trial and he was acquitted.
    Like or not, the Packers cut his ass before the trial, its not likely that the Steelers will do the same with Rapesagirl (weekly)
    Lastly, he was done as a player. He was so bad that the Vikings didn’t even bother signing him, much like they do with other ex Packers who are on the down side of their career.

  20. queenie says: Apr 17, 2010 3:34 PM

    Says that sharp as a tack Florio:
    “Today, a player who shows up at an after-prom party after a night of heavy drinking and gets accused of raping a 17-year-old girl would never play again in the NFL, for reasons other than a neck injury.”
    I say you wanna bet on that?

  21. twindaddy says: Apr 17, 2010 3:59 PM

    Mike, you dumbass, Chmura’s stuff happened in the 90′s, BEFORE the new Player Conduct policy was in effect and before Roger Goodell was commish. It hardly relates.

  22. QJ1984 says: Apr 17, 2010 4:00 PM

    Leonard Little killed a woman, was let back into the NFL and had another DUI arrest and was never suspended. In the Goddell era, he would have recieved a season long suspension.
    The only suspension I can remember Tagliaboo(yeah I meant to spell it like that) handing down was to Jamal Lewis and it was only because he pleaded guilty and was sentenced to jail time.
    Goddell has a new personal conduct policy and a lot of offenses that were not reprimanded under Tagliaboo will be disciplined under Goddell. Hell Rae Carruth hasnt been banned from football, the only reason he cant play is because a) he’s in prison and b) he sucks.

  23. WaffleStomp says: Apr 17, 2010 4:28 PM

    The real diffence is the fact that Mark Chmura never raped this 17 year old girl.
    This was simply a case of an overzealous prosecuter who should have never brought charges.
    Is Roethlisberger guilty, I really don’t know but he shouldn’t be punished unless there are established facts.

  24. Mike says: Apr 17, 2010 6:12 PM

    Hey, things change over time. Hopefully for the better. Women weren’t always allowed to vote. And they used to play football in leather helmets without face masks. Roethlisberger is an immature rapist who can’t pick up women even with $100 bills falling out of his pockets. He would go to trial if only there was a woman strong enough to stand up to him and the sleazy attorneys he’ll hire who would rake some poor young girl over the coals. In prison Rapistberger would undoubtedly partake of all the forced sex he’s been looking for. Then he’d have the opportunity to see how these women feel.

  25. Bob Nelson says: Apr 17, 2010 6:49 PM

    Mr. Florio,
    As you have pointed out previously, the NFL does investigate these things.
    1) The emergency room personnel that examined the girl found her hymen to be intact. (This was all on Court TV for America to see).
    2) Mr. Chumura’s attorney had a recontruction of the bathroom in question brought into the courtroom to show that the girl’s testimony was incorrect and it was impossible for her discription of events to be true.
    3) The accusations were completely false.
    Perhaps like the NFL you might want to investigate the matter.
    Mark Chmura was completely innocent.
    That is why the NFL responded as it did.
    Prosecutor violate people like Mark Chumura everyday.
    For example the Duke Lacrosse team getting suspended for nothing?
    As somebody that alleges to have legal training I would think you would have some interest in these matters.

  26. hairball says: Apr 17, 2010 7:09 PM

    I’m coming to the opinion that the only way for the Rooneys to salvage this situation is to release Roethlisberger. Guilty or not, he has been tried in the court of public opinion and has become a huge liability for the organization. He cannot be traded (IMO) because no other team wants this level of baggage right now. They are prohibited from suspending him for more than 4 weeks due to the CBA and 4 weeks seems light right now.
    So you release him, hope (wink, wink) no one else signs him this year, and resign him at a lower price when the flap dies down after this season.
    That is, if that idiot Roethlisberger can keep his belt buckled in the interim.

  27. BigBear123 says: Apr 17, 2010 7:43 PM

    Fans are a lot less tolerant than what they used to be. Smacyvickup.com which is shifting focus to NationalFelonLeague.com once I get a day off to transfer stuff.
    Goodell is better but still has some work to do. We will be happy to offer encouragement to Warden Goodell until the league is felon free .

  28. msnyder275 says: Apr 17, 2010 7:50 PM

    @ BobNelson
    I agree that Chmura was aquitted fairly by a jury of his peers.
    However, he did spend quality time in the bathroom with a 17 year old.
    Aquitted or not, that ain’t “completely innocent”. Not by a looooong stretch.

  29. njcheesehead72 says: Apr 17, 2010 8:02 PM

    “Today, a player who shows up at an after-prom party after a night of heavy drinking and gets accused of raping a 17-year-old girl would never play again in the NFL, for reasons other than a neck injury.”
    A smiling Ben Roethlisberger disagrees.

  30. BigBear123 says: Apr 17, 2010 9:13 PM

    Need to stop posting from mobile device. Never comes out right. With the NFL entering the mainstream and continuing to grow such behavior is going to result in stricter and stricter punishment.

  31. Raiders757 says: Apr 17, 2010 9:19 PM

    ‘the fact that he received an immediate green light to return to the NFL is jarring in light of the current atmosphere regarding player misconduct.”
    ———————————————–
    How is this “jarring”? First, this was before the current rules were in place, and second, he was found innocent in a court of law. There is nothing “jarring” about this at all. I would expect even under today’s rules, the result remain the same.

  32. Rnay says: Apr 17, 2010 9:51 PM

    Mark Chmura and Big Ben have two things in common: They appear to both be guilty of CRIMINAL STUPIDITY. If you don’t want to be accused of sexually abusing young girls, DON’T let your ass be IN a position where you can be accused. In Chmura’s case, if you come across a party where nubile young girls are drinking, you DO NOT go into hot tubs with them in your underwear and drink with them. In fact, you get the hell out of there altogether.
    And yes, there WAS and IS a lot of Packer fan disgust with the guy. No way he should be getting a Packer HOF nod. Speaks to T.I.I.C. at this time, in my opinion.
    Also, in my opinion, Ben R should get the Pete Rose treatment.

  33. GirthyOne says: Apr 18, 2010 3:08 PM

    Can’t rape the willing.

  34. packerfanfornot4life says: Apr 18, 2010 8:22 PM

    one other thing!!!!! he was cut from GB prior to the trial and was never re-signed to a team!!!

  35. jimicos says: Apr 19, 2010 12:00 AM

    packerfanfornot4life says:
    April 18, 2010 8:22 PM
    one other thing!!!!! he was cut from GB prior to the trial and was never re-signed to a team!!!
    ————————-
    FWIW, I’ve always believed some part of his dismissal was due to the timing. Remember Brown county voters were heading to the polls for the referendum on spending hundreds of millions of dollars on Lambeau Field. The referendum passed 53% to 47%. Had the Packers held onto Chmura it’s quite likely that the referendum doesn’t pass and the Lambeau Field renovations either don’t happen or they need to regroup to find the funding.

  36. crazyjoedavola says: Apr 26, 2010 9:48 PM

    Favre was at that party too. I’m sure he didn’t sexually assault an underage girl either.

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