Comments on: Kiper denies favoritism for Clausen

By: monet99

monet99 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:10:18 +0000

Mayock and Chavous are much better then Kiper or McShay.

By: CleanSlaton

CleanSlaton — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:06:28 +0000

Neither McShay or Kiper know their asses from holes in the ground. If they were worth 2 shits, they’d actually be scouts for teams. They couldn’t even do talent evaluation for Arena football. Kiper is the worse of the two, and his righteous indignation is what usually drives the on-air releases of hot-fart air from his mouth….and I wonder how an aeronautical engineer could fit a hardhat over that ridiculous pompadour. McShay’s sense of entitlement belies his ability to look at teams’ worst starters and assume they’d replace the ones that they can’t trade for with FA’s–in the draft, i.e. the F-ING OBVIOUS DRAFT PICKS.

By: ncoolong

ncoolong — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:58:55 +0000

There are some seriously stupid people commenting on this site…Look, NO ONE is suggesting GMs listen to what either Kiper or McShay have to say. Kiper, though, did say the Raiders shouldn’t have taken DHB where they took him. Is he stupid, or are the Raiders?
Clearly, though, there are enough NFL-starved rubes who pay ESPN Insider subscriptions to read what they have to say, so they’re doing something right.
It’s their opinion, if it doesn’t interest you, don’t read it. I can’t see the rationale behind people’s utter hatred of either one of them. The fact is, though, Kiper watches tape, he is in frequent contact with scouts, GMs and coaches around the league and he’s the guy who basically started all of this from the fan’s perspective. At this point in his career, he has absolutely nothing to gain by pubbing Clausen as the best QB in the draft. He wouldn’t be in the spot he’s in if he shilled everyone.

By: monet99

monet99 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:58:37 +0000

Mayock and Chavous are much better then Kiper or McShay.

By: sguy2130

sguy2130 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:43:52 +0000

winslow says:
April 19, 2010 11:36 AM
Kiper has secretly been conducting the Raider drafts since Al Davis died in 1997.
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hahahaha

By: casper67

casper67 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:36:54 +0000

“He is president of Mel Kiper Enterprises, Inc., which he founded in 1981 while at Essex Community College obtaining his degree in aeronautical engineering.”
Why do we listen to this moron? He has an associates’ degree in engineering (modeling man balls?) and has no football back ground…

By: casper67

casper67 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:35:00 +0000

Mel Kiper likes Clausen’s matza balls in his mouth…

By: casper67

casper67 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:33:47 +0000

Mel Kiper likes Clausen’s matza balls in his mouth…

By: dfeltz

dfeltz — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:31:57 +0000

FAS – “I appreciate their input (so I don’t have do all that work) and their perspective…but they are merely the weathermen of the NFL world.”
atleast you get it, that now makes 2 of us.

By: daivos03

daivos03 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:29:26 +0000

“McShay wasn’t sold on Matt Ryan either. Go to the tape. ”
Wait. Matt Ryan’s good? That’s news to me.
I honestly believe both Kiper and McShay are too close to the draft to be any good. Over analysis leads to bad judgement.
Plus, it’s just like analysts for any other sport, Kiper and McShay are too institutional to go out on any real limb.
Personally, I don’t think Bradford or Clausen will do very well at the next level, but even if Kiper and McShay believed that, they wouldn’t take the risk by actually saying it.

By: vegassquire

vegassquire — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:05:44 +0000

Clausen’s agent to Kiper, Jr (allegedly)? “Hey Mel, instead of buying 1,000 of your draft book can I make that 2,000 and double up on the positive press?”

By: sguy2130

sguy2130 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:05:40 +0000

Kiper was high on Brady Quinn too, he knows QB’s…..

By: sguy2130

sguy2130 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:03:37 +0000

Kiper was high on Brady Quinn too, he knows QB’s…..

By: Slow Joe

Slow Joe — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:47:19 +0000

“If Bradford is 35 spots ahead of Clausen’s 38th best QB in the draft, who are the #1 and #2 QBs?”
@TheDPR: Rosenthal screwed up. Or at least he wasn’t clear. In the first half of the sentence he was referring to just the QBs, in the second half he was referring to overall players. I’d give him some crap about it, but then I’m not responsible for posting like eight blog entries a day. So I give them all a little slack.

By: mmcnulty

mmcnulty — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:46:31 +0000

It’s for good reason. Clausen is the better pick.

By: Phil Wright

Phil Wright — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:43:49 +0000

Whatever it’s worth….5 year 1st round only correct picks:
ourlads.com 42 of 159, 26.4%. Kiper 40 of 159 25.2%. McShay/Scouts inc. 36 of 159, 24.5%. These are the “experts”?

By: robert ethan

robert ethan — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:42:29 +0000

GMen….that isn’t a dog. It’s a kid with especially thick hair.

By: geo1113

geo1113 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:40:51 +0000

“If either of these bozo’s were any good at their chosen profession, they’d be a GM of a professional team, instead of part time hacks playing pin the tail on the donkey….”
Mel has been doing this for 30 years (works year round not just part-time) and has never been fired. How man NFL GMs can make that claim!

By: Thingamajig

Thingamajig — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:37:25 +0000

What amazes me about Kiper is how on draft day he sits at that ESPN table and reels off stat after stat about everybody without even blinking an eye. The guy must have a photographic memory.

By: whodeyben

whodeyben — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:36:42 +0000

Unless you’re the Bengals or Raiders with the worst “scouting departments” what team even listens to any of them. Imagine:
War Room: “I love this guy, he should be our pick.”
War Room #2: “I don’t think so, Kiper had him going in round 3, so we better wait.”
Owner: “What did McShay say?”

By: winslow

winslow — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:36:06 +0000

Kiper has secretly been conducting the Raider drafts since Al Davis died in 1997.

By: GMenXLII

GMenXLII — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:23:29 +0000

The only thing that makes Mel Kiper Jr. awesome is the fact that he is not married, has no kids, and named his dog Mel Kiper III. True story.

By: AllThat

AllThat — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:11:00 +0000

all 3 are douche bags………..But hey, they are getting paid for it…
Go with the HAIR!!!

By: robert ethan

robert ethan — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:06:52 +0000

I don’t read Kiper any more, but back when I did, he pretty much said the same thing each time.
“Here’s a kid who could turn out to be the best player in the draft. I honestly feel that is possible. But he could turn out to be the worst player in the draft. That is just as possible. Most likely, and this is something of a gut feeling on my part, he will fall SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. I want people to remember I said that 5 years from now. Like Bernard Berrien. I said that same thing about Berrien when he came out. No one else did. Look at him now. Is the the best player in the league? No. Is he the worst. No, you can’t say that. You can’t say Bernard Berrien is the worst player in the league. Some people will say that but it’s not true. I mean look around, you have guys that never get on the field. Backups, I call them. Bernard Berrien is better than a lot of those guys.
So, just as I knew way back then, Berrien has become neither the best or worst player in the league. You can say that about a lot of guys, but I feel especially strongly that way about this kid. I mean who knows, he may end up the best player in the league, but really what are the chances? I mean how many players are there in the league at a given time, 300? Almost. So his chances aren’t that good. It could happen but I doubt it. It’s even harder to be definitively the worst player in the league. So much depends on what the coach isn’t looking for at the time. Anyway if you are the worst, you don’t often have a long career. Players like that tend to get cut a lot.”.

By: TheDPR

TheDPR — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:05:27 +0000

At issue is the blurred lines between entertainment and journalism. Journalism should be held to standards of accuracy and accountability (but rarely is). Entertainment has no such standards. Much of the public doesn’t know or care about the difference.

By: eagle_fan34

eagle_fan34 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:55:20 +0000

I agree with the post that seriously doubts anyone from the NFL takes what either one say as any merit toward who they pick. This is all about ratings for ESPN, period end of sentence. It’s get viewers to watch, and people to follow the posts. Remember howard Stern’s movie, Private parts? The ratings were higher for people who didn’t like him, why? They couldn’t wait to hear what he said next. This is all the same, people watch and ESPN gets good ratings and sells advertising spots, all becasue people watch to see what they say next. It’s entertainment, Mel could care less what viewers say or think about him, or the same for McShay. As long as they keep watching, they keep getting paid.

By: XLI

XLI — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:54:45 +0000

Can we just have the Draft already?
If I see one more Mock Draft I think I’m going to Mock Vomit.

By: swervinmervin

swervinmervin — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:51:44 +0000

McShay is a d-bag.
Kiper is like Madden and Vitale at this point. “Analysts” for dummies. At least he’s entertaining.
Mayock is obviously the best in the business.
But seriously, McShay needs to go. Absolutely worthless.

By: Plankshelmet

Plankshelmet — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:43:46 +0000

Kiper has been kissing Jimmy’s Golden Dome for a long time. Makes you wonder what Jimmy’s agent promised Kiper in return for helping boost his draft stock. Its such a joke guys like Kiper are the political equivalent of lobbyists in Washington. If the price is right they will tell you anyone is a franchise player before draft day.

By: TryTheVeal

TryTheVeal — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:43:36 +0000

If either of these bozo’s were any good at their chosen profession, they’d be a GM of a professional team, instead of part time hacks playing pin the tail on the donkey….