Comments on: McShay, Kiper draw their final battle lines on Jimmy Clausen

By: Bious

Bious — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:04:16 +0000

We lose….and you report we lose….which means we are getting blown out

By: overkil2

overkil2 — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:32:59 +0000

“HarrisonHits says:
April 19, 2010 5:16 PM
“If Clausen’s not a successful starting quarterback in the NFL, I’m done.”
Please Football Gods let Clausen succeed and Kiper honor this statement so we never have to hear from him again.
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@HarrisonHits – reread his statement. I think you misunderstood. He is saying that if clausen does NOT succeeed, he will quit.

By: CKL

CKL — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:46:32 +0000

# DVJ says: April 19, 2010 6:44 PM
Where are the good analysts like Corey Chavous these days?
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He has his own website (draftnasty) and appears occasionally on NFLN talking draft as he sometimes did while still playing. LOVE that guy. Besides the obvious of Mayock.. Charles Davis rocks also. He’s very underrated and seldom mentioned since Mayock is the star. Davis is so old school. NFLN owns in draft coverage.
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db3300 says: April 19, 2010 4:53 PM
I hope Kiper stands by his word and retires forever if Claussen is a bust. This is nothing but a grand-standing move because we all know that he won’t. Kiper is counting on the fact that the American public can’t hold it’s attention span long enough to ever hold him to his word.
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You’ll love this..McShay asked Kiper what timeframe Kiper would need to prove he is right or wrong about Clausen and Kiper says…EIGHT YEARS. Alrightee then Mel.

By: Brohamma

Brohamma — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:28:49 +0000

Kiper has this one won! I’ve been mocking this for quite awhile now and I cannot for the life of me understand why people just don’t get it.
New regime equals new quarterback.
Which teams have a new regime in the top 10?
Washington (added McNabb) and SEATTLE!
Whitehurst is a smokescreen or do you guys seriously believe he is going to be the franchise QB for Carroll??! Carroll tried to recruit Clausen HEAVILY but lost out to ND. He won’t miss this time.
Hasselbeck will be shipped to Cleveland on draft day for a mid-late round selection.

By: Florio-is-a-tool

Florio-is-a-tool — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:05:41 +0000

Yet another reason for many to hope Clausen fails as a pro. Don’t think the world would change at all without Mr. Hair on tv.

By: SterilizeTHenry

SterilizeTHenry — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:55:34 +0000

I have yet to hear someone tell me why Clausen won’t be successful in the NFL…besides, of course, the ridiculous Brady Quinn comparisons and his record at ND (which is the fault of ND’s pathetic defense).
Here are the facts on Clausen:
Big arm – stronger that Bradford’s;
Great accuracy – near 70% completion percentage last year with a 7:1 TD to Int ratio;
Great leader – voted team captain by his teammates at ND last year.
NFL Ready – Played in pro-style offense for past three years;
So will someone PLEASE give me 1 good reason as to why/how this guy isn’t going to be an NFL stud QB.

By: theuncletodd

theuncletodd — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:44:50 +0000

as someone earlier pointed out, Clausen’s delivery is HORRIBLE! If you saw his pro day, he was yanking the ball with his entire body just to throw a sideout with no zip on it. Bernie Kosar had horrible mechanics but he had the one thing JC doesn’t have—SMARTS–Clausen=Jeff George BUST

By: GaryClark

GaryClark — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:51:09 +0000

And what does Cerrato say????

By: IKnowEverything

IKnowEverything — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:24:27 +0000

You know what i get SICK of, the Quinn comparisons!!!! if you want to compare him, bring up better options. Brady Quinn NEVER had the arm that Clausen had, McShay has no problem with Clausen’s arm, his issue is his character, so basically he compares him to a less talented Jay Cutler, NOT Quinn. Quinn is a good kid with very little talent, he had two stud tall recievers, Clausen didn’t. Tate is good, but he’s 5’11, not 6’4 like Stovall and Samarzjia were.
Stovall was absolute garbage. Samarzjia is playing baseball. Clausen had 10x better targets than Quinn did. Michael Floyd is a sure fire first round draft pick when he comes out. TE Kyle Rudolph will be taken at the least in the 2nd round. Golden Tate will be a 1st or 2nd round pick as well. Now the comparison between Quinn and Clausen, they are completely different QB’s. Clausen has a much stronger arm and is more accurate. Quinn was a more athletic guy. I think he was too muscular. He still might resurrect his career in Denver.

By: B Atkins

B Atkins — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:17:33 +0000

“If Clausen’s not a successful starting quarterback in the NFL, I’m done.” – Mel Kiper
I think Kiper needs to define ‘successful’ – Clausen was only able to put up numbers versus crap teams at ND and NEVER beat a ranked team – or a top 30 team(0-12). And Clasuen got stoned at the goal line by an undersized Navy DB. Anyway, the floppy heads believe Clausen was “successful” in college. I believe they need to set their sights a bit higher.

By: IKnowEverything

IKnowEverything — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:15:39 +0000

Posted VIA BIGTRAV425
“If Claussen goes in the top ten that team should change there team name to the SUCKERS. That guy is overrated big time just like Quinn.There was a reason why Quinn slipped all the way to where he did. i hope to freakin GOD the Brownies dont take him or ill be hittin the Tequila pretty hard”
Typical moron Browns fan. Go throw bottles on the field or something. What is it with Browns fans and idiocracy. Are you all imbred or something?

By: mwcarolina

mwcarolina — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:45:44 +0000

“That guy is overrated big time just like Quinn”
You know what i get SICK of, the Quinn comparisons!!!! if you want to compare him, bring up better options. Brady Quinn NEVER had the arm that Clausen had, McShay has no problem with Clausen’s arm, his issue is his character, so basically he compares him to a less talented Jay Cutler, NOT Quinn. Quinn is a good kid with very little talent, he had two stud tall recievers, Clausen didn’t. Tate is good, but he’s 5’11, not 6’4 like Stovall and Samarzjia were.

By: DVJ

DVJ — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:44:42 +0000

Where are the good analysts like Corey Chavous these days?

By: marktg30

marktg30 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:40:48 +0000

Any moron can make a mock draft… these guys are just two morons on TV… look at all the crappy websites out there.
I won’t provide links… You can find them on your own.

By: SeeUInTheSuperbowl

SeeUInTheSuperbowl — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:39:04 +0000

Don’t care where he goes, as long as it isn’t Seattle.

By: KingJoe!

KingJoe! — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:33:04 +0000

Hi, lets rehash every comment from every “expert” and see how these bags stack up. Let’s be real, teams invest 10′s of millions of dollars in their draft picks, the real experts are writing a column or yapping on TV, they are employed by an NFL team.

By: Maddog

Maddog — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:18:43 +0000

casper67 says:
April 19, 2010 5:29 PM
Kiper is a dumb ass…he doesn’t even have a bachelors degree..why does everyone listen to that douche?
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He should go back to school and get his bachelor’s degree. Then he could quit this NFL stuff which isn’t working out for him, and get a job making $22 grand a year like you.

By: CleanSlaton

CleanSlaton — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:17:47 +0000

Colt McCoy beat Bradford twice and Clausen’s team was always too crappy to play Texas. Neither McShay nor Kiper have their boners for the right QB. Keep in mind both heralded QB’s are headed to crappy teams [whereas, Colt will drop to a good team] and neither has the ability to make even a 1 win difference in their team’s records next season.
Dear ESPN director of programming,
Stop featuring these braying jackasses, McShay & Kiper, on your network. At no point during their analysis did they remotely come close to a single correct talent evaluation. Award them no points, and may God have mercy on their souls.
sincerely,
every ESPN viewer

By: JustDieBaby

JustDieBaby — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:00:17 +0000

McShay is a McMoron. I remember how high he was on Al Davis fat “great playah” Off-The-Markus-Bustsel. Said he had the best workout he had seen in the last 10 years. The AssClown like the Crypt-Keeper must have been inpressed how far he could throw a football from his knees.

By: Wartooth

Wartooth — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:55:17 +0000

I wish I had a job were all I had to do was once a year guess who would be good football players!
It’s just like politics!
If you are wrong, their are no repercussions, and you keep your job!

By: casper67

casper67 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:29:23 +0000

Kiper is a dumb ass…he doesn’t even have a bachelors degree..why does everyone listen to that douche?

By: bigtrav425

bigtrav425 — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:28:31 +0000

If Claussen goes in the top ten that team should change there team name to the SUCKERS. That guy is overrated big time just like Quinn.There was a reason why Quinn slipped all the way to where he did. i hope to freakin GOD the Brownies dont take him or ill be hittin the Tequila pretty hard

By: rmcgov

rmcgov — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:24:38 +0000

Normally I would go with kiper, but since vinny cerrato likes claussen he has to be a bust

By: TimTheEnchanter

TimTheEnchanter — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:23:34 +0000

This harkens back to the halcyon days of staged bickering between Sean Salisbury and John Clayton.
ESPN programming at it’s finest!

By: Lance

Lance — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:21:33 +0000

I digest ESPN content with the best of em– I dig McShay and Kiper. Why not battle it out and make this stuff interesting– the NFL is awesome, the Draft is awesome and almost everything sports related is better then most things work related

By: neilp

neilp — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:17:41 +0000

The whole draft is a guessing game anyway is it not? I believe the very best analyists get what 9 out of 32 right in the first round?
Not something I would hang my hat on if I was Mel Kiper or Todd McShay. Maybe its time we all treated the draft for what it is for the average fan, a fun guessing game, because when push comes to shove your average fans opinion is not going to be that far removed from reality either!

By: HarrisonHits

HarrisonHits — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:16:58 +0000

“If Clausen’s not a successful starting quarterback in the NFL, I’m done.”
Please Football Gods let Clausen succeed and Kiper honor this statement so we never have to hear from him again.

By: mama tried

mama tried — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:14:28 +0000

everybody loves a clausen…. pickle. In the REFRIGERATOR isle of your local grocer.

By: vegassquire

vegassquire — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:13:17 +0000

Clausen makes both Brady Quinn and Rick Myers look like HOF quarterbacks! I am surprised that Mel Kiper hasn’t come out and said he has given him a higher grade than he gave Jamarcus Russell. I can’t wait to hear Mel whine all Thursday night when Clausen is sitting there when they turn out the lights.

By: Cambodian Breast Milk

Cambodian Breast Milk — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:07:53 +0000

As annoying as Kiper is, he’s a good analyst of talent and is usually right on or within Mayock’s assessment. McShady is horrible, with a capital WHORE-ible. If a star player makes plays but is on a shitty team, it automatically means the guy is going to be a bust according to McSuck.