Raiders enter the Big Ben picture

Not long ago, there was a belief that the Steelers hadn’t ruled out a trade of quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in order to scare him regarding the possibility of being traded to Oakland.

Now, he may have good reason to be afraid.

Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports that the Steelers have been in contact with the Raiders regarding a possible trade, and that Oakland “[m]ight be [the] only real option.”

The Steelers apparently want a top-ten pick for Roethlisberger.  If the Raiders won’t send the eighth overall selection to Pittsburgh, the next question becomes whether the Steelers would begin to consider taking pick 11, 12, or 13.

The 49ers hold the 13th pick, and Roethlisberger grew up rooting for the team.

175 responses to “Raiders enter the Big Ben picture

  1. Would love to see this shit bag get shipped anywhere. Oakland is as good a place as any…

  2. Love it. Oakland lock your doors and windows, guard your daughters and wives, Rapistberger is coming to town.

  3. This trade would make sense. I would rather have Big Ben then some mickey Mouse Rookie QB. If the Raiders pull this trade out then they would be instant AFC west champs.

  4. I tweeted a few minutes ago that I could see big ben in a Raider jersey for current and future top round draft picks…hmmmm.

  5. Now that would be punishment, I hope this deal gets done. And Davis just may be stupid enough to give up a top 10 draft pick for him!!

  6. I don’t think I’ve heard anyone mention. Is the suspension with or without pay???

  7. What if the Steelers trade BB for #8, then package that #8 pick with their own 1st and move into the top 3/4? They could then end up with either Bradford or Clausen.

  8. Oakland and Rottenberger deserve each other. Give him the Randy Moss treatment and make him feel miserable for a few years. Jackass.

  9. Rothlisberger for Russell even up!
    “The 49ers hold the 13th pick, and Roethlisberger grew up rooting for the team.”
    You may need to check the definition of “grew up.”
    While Ben R. certainly has gained size (and then some) he continues to act like a petulant, oversexed 13 year old.

  10. really? you think the steelers give a shit if big ben rooted for the 49ers growing up? This isnt Ben lobbying to get out of Pittsburgh nor is it them asking him where he would like to go so he will sign a contract extension. They are dumping him…where he wants to go isnt worried about or the raiders would never of been called.

  11. They already got him his own little dingy restroom and Al is wearing a skirt in the dark hallway leading to it.

  12. Welcome to Oaktown baby! good thing Ben can make plays with his feet under a bad oline like in his sb yr.
    Ben vs Pitt. in Nov. a must watch. At Pitt.
    Just finished buying tickets..

  13. Here we go. Raiders couldn’t snag McNabb, but they have another shot here with Big Ben. I say pull the trigger and get him. Raiders have nothing to lose. They finally get their franchise QB.

  14. u can scrath the 11th and 12th pick off that list, i think they’re satisfied with what they have at QB

  15. Wow I would take this guy. But I would not give up a top ten pick. I say pick up a left tackle with the 8th pick and then trade 2012 first round pick. Hopefully if we play well we end up in the early to mid 20’s.

  16. Just because a team doesn’t want Big Ben doesn’t mean that Big Ben won’t have the team. I could see him plying the Bills with liquor and then having his bodyguards hold them down.
    Just ask Ben, the Bill’s mouth says NO but their eyes say OH YEAH.

  17. Big Ben was a Niners fan?
    I don’t see Al doing this because he hates to pay players who won’t be able to play. This is why he was reluctant to bench Fatty McFatFat; he didn’t want to pay a boatload of $$ for someone to sit on the bench. I don’t see Al paying a guy who can’t play for 6 games.

  18. They already have a fatass loser at QB that doesn’t give a shit about being in the NFL in Jamarcus Russell; they don’t need two.

  19. If Rapenstein is traded to the silver and black, they should change their name to the Oakland Rapers.
    if this happens, it will be the ultimate degradation for the Steelers and their fans- and a great day for the rest of us

  20. No one besides the Raiders is going to touch Rapistberger with a ten foot pole. The Steelers should just swap him and their 1st round pick for Oakland’s 1st and 2nd round picks this year.

  21. Oh how I’d love to be the proverbial “fly on the wall” in Al Davis’ office right now…
    Al: Get Art Rooney on the phone… Art? Al. We’ll give you our first the year and Jamarcus Russell? No? How about just our first this year then? OK, Our first this year, and our first in 2012? What do I care, I’ll be dead by then! Deal? Great! Send us the proposal.
    Al: Get me Jamarcus Russell on the phone… Jamarcus, It’s Al. Pack your bags and clear out your locker.
    Al: Did I DVR Matlock last night?

  22. jOakland here he comes, in the bathroom.
    He will fit in well in Oakland Alameda Penetentiary, where the inmates get down in the bathrooms as well.
    Stay classy jOakland!!!!!

  23. please, please, please, let it be the raiders in return for a first rounder!! al davis’ draft woes continue making the pats’ 1st rounder from them looking really nice!

  24. It’s like a threat at this stage: “If you don’t behave, I’ll trade you to the Raiders!”

  25. Of course they do. I am totally shocked. Ben going to the Raiders would be fitting punishment!

  26. If they are going to trade Ben,lets not have a fire sale like we did with Santonio Holmes. If its with the Raiders,their first pick and their best cornerback for Ben. And we keep our first round pick.

  27. NOOOO!!!!!! Alex is our leader. If Big Ben wants to back him up then that’s ok with me. If not..keep him!

  28. Florio, your imagnation never ceases to amaze… No one in their right mind would give up a top #1 (or any 1st Rd. pick) for Rothlisrapist right now. A #2, some sort of a swap, and/or a conditional future pick is probably the best the Steelers are gonna get.

  29. I’m guessing that the trade would be better than any pick that Al could make in his senile mind!!!

  30. A nice bonus to this move would be that changing their name from Oakland Raiders to the Oakland Rapers wouldn’t even be that hard- just a little liquid paper, a sharpie and boom voila- there you have it!

  31. Florio, have you done any actual reporting on this issue? While it is convenient that you regurgitate the tweets of others in one place, it would be fantastic if you did some actual reporting to confirm whether any of these calls are even taking place, and if so, by whom they’re being initiated.

  32. That’s La Canfora’s opinion. Yet you write it like the Raiders have expressed interest.
    Again, please hold your breath waiting for the Raiders to confirm or deny any interest. Then when you pass out, we won’t have to get caught up in your speculative writing. Your title suggest that the Raiders have expressed interest when they haven’t.

  33. The Raiders are perfect for Big Ben. He can go to a club in the Bay Area, trap a girl in the bathroom, and then yell “Holy $–t! You’re not a girl!!”.
    …then the “girl” can say, “It’s OK”…

  34. What was Big Ben’s 40 time from the combine several years ago? That will give us insight into whether or not the Raiders pull the trigger.

  35. The 49ers hold the 13th pick, and Roethlisberger grew up rooting for the team.
    Come on…do you think the Steelers really give a sh!t which team Ben grew up rooting for? One of the stupidest points you morons have ever made and that saying a lot!!

  36. If the Steelers get a top-10 pick for Ben, that would be the NFL trade equivalent of a rape.

  37. THIS i would like to see. fits the Steeler’s off-season quest to get really really bad at football
    and didnt Rooney stand by Holmes who shot a police officer only to abandon ben who was charged with nothing?whaddadousche

  38. OAK Get:
    Big Ben
    PIT Get:
    JaMarcus Russell
    2nd(Dan LeFevour)
    Dennis Dixon Changes His Number To His College #10!
    JaMarcus Russell Gets #2!

  39. The Raiders should trade all their draft picks for vetern players since they suck at drafting. I wish the Raiders played in my fantasy league. …’Hey Al, I’ll give you Kyle Boller for Adrian Peterson..uh ok’

  40. I would love to see Ben go to the Faiders. Al would be able to complete his set. Thugs and Rapists and Druggies, oh my!

  41. Is there any worse punishment for rape, then to have to play for Al Davis?
    If he’s traded there, Goodell should take the suspension away…enough’s enough.

  42. LOL, Ben can be close to where prostitution is legal. He can make some money by opening a business based off his life. Big Ben’s ‘Brothel’sberger

  43. Oh please, please, please!!!!!! Please throw in Jamarcus Russell too. Please. Quick, call Hines Ward, he is going to be so happy. Next, I say they send James Harrison to Cleveland for a conditional draft pick.
    Sheeesh, talk about over-reaction.
    “Down to F*&k”

  44. I was born a Seahawks fan but one faithful Monday night in 1987 Bo Jackson Baptized me a Raider. I’ve been on board with all my heart through thick and thin for over 20 years. I love football and for the last several years it’s been a very tough love. Clearly from a football stand point, a full Season with Roethlisburger would make them a playoff team. I don’t care. I’d rather lose than root for that piece of crap. Any decent man who read the police report and heard about the predatory nature of Roethlisburger and the injuries to the young woman should feel the same.

  45. Not to disagree much with the usual Raider trashing but both Jim Plunkett and Rich Gannon had their careers flourish in Oakland and both took the team to the Super Bowl.

  46. its like that episode of “the wire”…when they ask you were you dont want to go…never tell them the truth!

  47. There has got to be a gay joke in here somewhere about Ben assaulting boys instead of girls, but i’m drawing a blank.
    I’m sure my fellow commenters will pick up the slack…

  48. I would love to see that beady eyed, fat jowled greasebag go to oakland. If he messed with the wrong broad up here he’ll get his throat slit or his junk cut off.

  49. BS, the guy is suspned for 6 games! Hes not even worth a 1st round pick! And when he rapes again, he will be out of the league. trade JBUST for rapist ben straight up or no deal!

  50. “If the Raiders pull this trade out then they would be instant AFC west champs. ”
    irish4life,
    That is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen on here. They might win 3-4 more games, but Oakland would still finish 3rd or 4th in that division. The Raiders could have Jesus Christ quarterbacking and they would still suck.

  51. Oakland doesnt want men who rape women….ship that crap to SD or he could hanging out with Ray Lewis…

  52. Ben Roethlisberger is damaged goods now and is suspended for 6 games. The Steelers would be doing well to get a 2nd rounder for him.

  53. Do it Raiders! Oakland has a QB that can stay out of trouble off the field but can’t (and presumably) doesn’t want to do anything on it. On the other hand, Rapistberger can do anything of the field, but can’t keep his pants on off of it.
    If Art Rooney can think of a better solution/punishment than this I’d love to see it.
    And there’s no chance the Raiders could take anyone better with the #8 pick.

  54. He is worth a 3rd pick w/ that much baggage, nothing more. I would rather trade our second rd pick to the skins for the double whammy of Haynesworth, and Campbell.

  55. Slow down people this will not happen. I mean c’mon, they just signed Kyle Boller so their QB situation is just fine.

  56. Ben won’t be traded and everyone can eat theior words, just liek everyone thought he raped that drunken whore! He is INNOCENT! EXPOSE THAT SLUTS NAME WHO IS RUINING HIS LIFE NOW!!!

  57. Ben heard they have a “black hole” in oakland and got excited. He even got dressed up in his best raping clothes.

  58. This is perfect for everyone involved, because, as all of you, the Raiders consistently resurrect stalled careers. Just ask Lyle Alzado, the last player for whom this is true.
    Ben R., a Raider. PERFECT.

  59. Say he doesn’t get traded to the Raiders and stays with the Steelers…did the commissioner choose 6 games because their 7th game is a nationally televised game?

  60. Ben won’t be traded and everyone can eat theior words, just liek everyone thought he raped that drunken whore! He is INNOCENT! EXPOSE THAT SLUTS NAME WHO IS RUINING HIS LIFE NOW!!!

  61. I mean really were all grown men on here I assume…can we really get over the lame Rapistburger name its not even funny at this point its kind of like the slow kid latching onto a joke for way too long at this point or that grand parent that repeats the same story over and over…and for all the people who think they are comic geniuses read the other posts before posting something…blah blah oakland is prison, blah blah rapistburger…cant you guys even try to be original…ps I am a Ravens fan

  62. mrfootball101 says:
    April 21, 2010 3:41 PM
    I tweeted a few minutes ago that I could see big ben in a Raider jersey for current and future top round draft picks…hmmmm.
    —Anyone who uses Twitter that isn’t in the showbusiness or sports industry is a loser. We don’t care what you ate for lunch mr football, nobody is following you.

  63. HAHA!!!!!
    This is exactly what Big Turd Rapist deserves as punishment. Forget 10 years to life, getting shipped to the Raiders is more humiliating, degrading, and is the ultimate punishment.
    So where is Mrs. Rapistburgers’ holier than self today? Ya know, the one that defends ol Ben with a passion here on each and every Steeler post…. The one that wants to meet up with the Rapistberger in a dirty bar bathroom…..will you stand by your man and become a member of the Raider Nation now Mrs. Rapistberger??????

  64. If he goes to the raiders he will flop, while the squeelers will still do at least ok thus proving that lil ben isn’t all that.

  65. Perfect place. Match made in heaven. Roethlisberger has strong arm Davis loves.
    From Browns, Jaguars, Bills, Rams, Seahawks – to Raiders is a plus. Raiders are ahead of 3 of this teams in standings and are just tied with the other 2. So, yeah its been shaky in Oakland the last few yrs theyve been searching for a real QB and alot of losses later they find their guy.
    Oakland has the History, Theme, SBs, Colors, Fans, Attitude and Swagger every player loves..
    A QB Away from getting the AFC West. (look at SD-2009MNF game to see if Oak can compete with SD)

  66. Please Al, do this.
    PLEASE!
    Oakland is perfect for this trailer trash slug.
    Morover, they will be giddy that the football world is watching, regardless of the fact they are about mortgage thier future.
    Call it Jerry Jones syndrome.

  67. With the 8th pick in the 2010 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select, “a guy who nobody else would be dumb enough to take at that spot”.

  68. No interest from this Raider fan for the #8 overall. I’m not above Big Ben or anything, but he’s damaged goods.

  69. As long as the raiders get a solid offensive lineman at some point in this draft, rapeistberger should do well with all the young weapons that we have currently developing. A poor oline and the qb goes from awful to atrocious (jamahcus)

  70. Raiders will swap 1st rounders with pittsburgh and send Asomuga(sp) to the steelers for Big Ben thats whats on the table as of now look for the Raiders to take a guard in 1st rnd ..

  71. hnirobert says:
    April 21, 2010 3:42 PM
    But they have JaMarcus?
    AND Kyle Boller???
    hahahahahahaha

  72. Stone:
    You basically nailed down the best (realistic) trade scenario for the Steelers.
    The Steelers are smoking with Santonio if they think they can get a top 10 for Ben. ONE team (ALLEJABLEE) wants him.
    The Raiders want Iupati, Davis, Pouncey or Brown, odds are 2 or 3 of them will be there at 18. This trade could happen if the Raiders are stupid enough to big against themselves.

  73. You guys are all dumb. Why would anyone give up a top ten pick for a qb that will only play 8-10 games? (depnding on whether his supension is 4-6 weeks)
    He is virtually untradeable if the Steelers are expecting “true market value.” Look at Santonio Holmes (coming off a career year) he was almost cut until the Jets offered a 5th rounder.
    Ben is worth maybe a third rounder given his current suspension status.
    Miss me with the bullshit. No way any team gives up a top ten pick for a part time player with baggage. And we are talking a particular type of “good ole frat boy with a drinking problem” baggage.

  74. This will NEVER happen. Same crap as always. Whenever one of these talking heads wants to see his name all over the internet they mention the Raiders as “an interested team”, for the simple reason that the Raiders never ever deny these kind of stupid rumors. NOT going to happen.

  75. # robert ethan says: April 21, 2010 3:40 PM
    He and Russell can Sumo wrestle to see who starts.
    lmao! that is great. odd how no one mentions big ben’s weight and how it has steadily went up. oooh wait! florio is a steelers fan.

  76. raiders177 says:
    I don’t see Al doing this because he hates to pay players who won’t be able to play.
    *****************************
    He wouldn’t be. Ben would be suspended without pay for the games that he was made to sit out.

  77. Hey Ben, WWJD? Look on your socks? I know he wouldn’t pull his little roethlisburger out and force it onto unsuspecting young girls. Friggin hypocritic rapist. You make me sick.

  78. “The 49ers hold the 13th pick, and Roethlisberger grew up rooting for the team.”
    aahah..love when Florio pulls this crap to get people fired up…People, he’s joking..

  79. you are all dumb. they are not trading. last time I’m saying this. I live in Pittsburgh and I KNOW they are not trading him.

  80. Not going to happen, just like nothing else that was reported on this site with regard to the raiders happened in the past year. Everyone like to make stuff up because they hate them. Why? Who knows. I knew a story just like this would be posted on this site as soon as that idiot got suspended.
    Raider haters, you are all mentally handicapped. Why don’t you pay attention to your own team? Hmmm…..because your teams are boring??? Get a life.

  81. Hey Black and Silver is close enough to Black and white. Which is what he should be wearing.

  82. If ben goes to the raiders, he’ll be the only QB to win two superbowls and NOT get into the hall of fame.

  83. I hope this does not happen, and there is no way a #8 pick goes for a PR problem that won’t even be in uniform until week 7. You are high. The price goes down (bitch).

  84. Nevisyakker says:
    April 21, 2010 3:44 PM
    Rothlisberger for Russell even up!
    “The 49ers hold the 13th pick, and Roethlisberger grew up rooting for the team.”
    You may need to check the definition of “grew up.”
    While Ben R. certainly has gained size (and then some) he continues to act like a petulant, oversexed 13 year old.
    _________________________________
    Every once in awhile, after wading through all the worn out Rapistberger comments, you find something that’s truly clever. Nice work Nevisyakker.

  85. how is trading the 8th pick for a 2x superbowl champion qb a bad idea. This would make Oakland a pretty good team for the next 10 years! Big Ben is in his prime! He still hasn’t been charged with anything

  86. This trade gets full approval from the Bronco orginazation . It just can’t happen soon enough..

  87. The comedy ensues…..First off, the Raiders are a QB away from taking the West. Not to mention seriously contending. You can pretty much bet your ass that Ben is going to be a model citizen from here on out. So despite all the drama in the media right now, it’s gonna eventually blow over. And then Ben is gonna be playing with a humongous chip on his shoulder. Especially if the Steelers deal him.
    Not that I take a single thing posted about the Raiders on this site seriously. But I really wouldn’t mind at all to see this happen. As long as were not giving up that 1st rd pick. Hopefully it would be a 2nd and 5th for him.

  88. I would Love to see Rothlisraper end up in Oakland.
    JamRuss could be the biggest bust of all time !

  89. When will Jared Allen be suspened for this threathening to break a guys neck and writing him a check at a bar! He already he 3 DUI’S!!! 8 game suspension Mr. Godell!!!

  90. Hang on, just what exactly has Roethlisberger done? He bought some students a drink. That’s it. The sexual assault claims – neither of which has led to a trial because nobody has ever supplied any evidence that a crime took place – are complete red herrings. In most countries, buying an adult a drink is not a criminal activity.

  91. Nnamdi Asomugha to the Steelers for Big Ben & 2nd rounder? Just heard that floated on talk radio. The Steelers ‘D’ would be sick with Asomugha as a dead nuts shutdown corner.

  92. # BoltsFan says: April 21, 2010 4:12 PM
    “If the Raiders pull this trade out then they would be instant AFC west champs. ”
    irish4life,
    That is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen on here. They might win 3-4 more games, but Oakland would still finish 3rd or 4th in that division. The Raiders could have Jesus Christ quarterbacking and they would still suck.
    ——————————————————
    We were a screw-job by the refs away from beating your ass! When’s the last time you guys made it out of the 1st rd in the playoffs again?? You think you have the West locked down? Keep dreaming……and yes we are a QB away from taking it from you.

  93. Rooney’s equal CLASS ACT. If they rid themselves of this a$$ clown Big Ben.
    Also, I was on here telling you all that the Raiders would be the team Ben would be playing for at the start of all this crap.
    I also called the Wake and Bake trade.
    1 more day to listen to all the haters.
    The Steelers still will make the playoffs and piss on all of you without Ben.

  94. “You guys are all dumb. Why would anyone give up a top ten pick for a qb that will only play 8-10 games? (depnding on whether his supension is 4-6 weeks)”
    For the same reason you would you spend a top 10 pick on a rookie QB who probably won’t play until mid season if at all. He’s under contract for more years than just this one.

  95. Ah, look at the Judgmental assholes.
    Yes, believe the Raider fan stereo types, they are always true.
    lol
    Raider fans have standards, Big Ben can go shovel shit.
    Raider fans don’t want a predator.
    Keep Judging………….
    Raider fans come in all shapes and sizes, no fan base in more diverse in all forms.
    Bruce should be the starter.
    BTW —-Bruce Gradkowski is a Catholic and Raider fans love him.

  96. The fans on the niners message board have been salivating for ben for over a week now, so to the dopes that think ben wont have a army of fans or shirts sold the day hes traded are in lala land!
    Hmmmm frank gore, vernon davis, michael crabtree, wonder how good that team would be with ben behind center lol!

  97. CJV123 says:
    What if the Steelers trade BB for #8, then package that #8 pick with their own 1st and move into the top 3/4? They could then end up with either Bradford or Clausen.
    ________________________________
    First, no sane person would give up two first round picks just to move up 4 spots.
    Second, Bradford will be gone by the third pick
    Third, they could draft Clausen with the 8th pick in your example, he’s not going top 4.

  98. DThomas 56 says
    a 2011 Raiders 1st round draft pick would be as good as a top 10 pick,
    SORRY but you need to call Bill Belichick in New England if you want that pick.

  99. 15 rounds, for the vacant RDP (really dumb people) Heavyweight title.
    Rapistburger vs the Vickulator.

  100. If he gets traded to the Raiders is the suspension dropped? Only seems fair.
    I think instead of fining the Steelers, Goodall should make them draft Tebow in the 2nd round. He’s not likely to ever play and he’s sort of the anti-Ben….while Ben’s out partying with a devil shirt, Tim is building houses for the poor and saving himself until marriage. They should also be required to be roommates during trainign camp.

  101. @Boltsfan Thats some dumb sh%t. Oakland won the first game w/ dolts execpt for the good old reef robbing Murphy of a td. All you haters might love to hate a guy/team for what they do off the field, however Ben in Oakland = kicking charger ass for years to come. Al get er done.

  102. DcNinerFan says:
    April 21, 2010 4:00 PM
    I would love to see Ben go to the Faiders. Al would be able to complete his set. Thugs and Rapists and Druggies, oh my!
    ———————————————
    DCNinerFan continues to prove himself one of the most ignorant posters on this site. Which shouldn’t surprise anyone since he’s probably got his head up someone elses ass.
    Come on smart guy, please tell the class exactly who on the Raiders roster is either a thug, rapist or drug user. Keep living in the past guy. Don’t know if anyone has told you yet, but the Whiners haven’t done crap since 1994. It’s 2010. People who live in glass houses… never mind, you won’t get it.

  103. Scout to Al Davis: “What do you think about Big Ben?”
    Davis to Scout: “I was always amazed it escaped the Nazi bombings.”
    Scout to Al: “No, Big Ben the football player.”
    Davis to Scout: “Is Ben Agajenian still kicking without those four toes? I thought he retired.”
    Scout to Al: “Big Ben Roethlisberger!”
    Al to Scout: “No thanks, I don’t want to get hamburger juice on my white Raiders sweatsuit. You should have told me. I would have worn the black one.”

  104. Sending the molestor to the black hole or sf would definitely help his image. Isn’t Oaktown know for their date rape drugs? Coincidence I THINK NOT!

  105. Raiders first rounder and CB Nnamdi Asomugha for Ben sounds like a great deal to me. Just imagine the Steelers defense with the addition of Nnamdi.

  106. For all of you dumb asses comparing this trade to holmes because of a suspension you are retarded. Yes, the Steelers only got a 5th for Holmes coming off a career year……and yes, a big part of that is because he is suspended for the first 4 games…..but after the season is over he is a free agent…..that is the main reason they took so little, essentially they got a 5th round pick for a player under contract for 12 games… they werent going to resign him anyway….
    Ben on the other hand, is suspended for 6 games (will end up being 4), but you have a 28 yr old, 2 time Super Bowl Champion, who has baggage yes, but is a major upgrade over all but 4 teams qbs in the league…..and the kicker, he is under contract until 2014, so he is not a rental like Holmes. Also keep in mind what the Bears gave up to get crybaby Cutler……he barely has a winning record let alone 8-2 in the playoffs, and 2 rings. They likely are trying to get a top ten pick, either a player, or a second this year and next, and a future conditional.
    So Ben for a 1st Rounder, 2nd Rounder or player, 2nd Rounder next year, and a Future conditional pick. If he goes (which he wont, because nobody will give up that much for him) that is what it will cost. Just look at the Cutler trade for the market regarding a franchise QB…..forget the baggage, and the suspension….every team that even considers this isnt going to win next year with or without him…it will take time.

  107. How is trading a 1st rounder for Roethlisberger a bad idea? He has 2 rings to go with a 15-1 season & AFC Championship appearance AS A ROOKIE. Sure, he has been an idiot off the field, but on the field he has been a winner and you know exactly what you’re getting. All the talk about how the defense carried him in Pittsburgh, he actually sucks, etc. is a bunch of BS. The numbers and the rings don’t lie.
    You’re going to spend a lot more guaranteed money than Roethlisberger will be owed on anyone you draft with that pick, with no idea how he will turn out as a player or a person. Suspension or not, there is nobody that’s going to be drafted with that pick that is going to make as much of an impact this year or next, if ever.
    Anybody you draft is a complete risk, so trading that pick for a known commodity seems like far less of a risk, as long as you think your organization has the pieces in place to keep Ben in line.
    Kobe Bryant, Bernard Hopkins, Ray Lewis & many others have put themselves in some bad situations too, but seem to be doing OK now…

  108. BoltsFan says:
    April 21, 2010 4:12 PM
    “If the Raiders pull this trade out then they would be instant AFC west champs. ”
    irish4life,
    That is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen on here. They might win 3-4 more games, but Oakland would still finish 3rd or 4th in that division. The Raiders could have Jesus Christ quarterbacking and they would still suck
    –So, you’re saying 8-8 or 9-7 will only be good enough for 3rd or 4th in the AFC West? The Bolts could have Jesus Christ kicking field goals and they would still choke.

  109. the big bronco says:
    April 21, 2010 5:05 PM
    This trade gets full approval from the the Bronco orginazation. It just can’t happen soon enough..
    –Why? So you can get beat twice this year by a good QB and miss the playoffs? As opposed to losing to Jamarcus Russell in Denver like the past 2 seasons and missing the playoffs?
    Stupid, drunk, fat or whatever, I’d rather have Roethlisberger at QB than Orton or Quinn any day based on his playing ability and championship experience. Don’t even get on your moral high horse (pun intended) either, because you support a “Bronco orginazation” that signed Travis Henry, drafted Maurice Clarett, Brandon Marshall….I could go on but any 1 of those 3 proves my point.
    So if Ben a) is better than any QB in the division other than Rivers and would instantly upgrade a team who has beaten Denver with Jamarcus Russell & Josh McCown the past 3 years, b) has 2 rings and an AFC Championship appearance since 2004 c) brings baggage but not near as much as several recent Broncos, eliminating the moral argument, then why do you wish this trade would happen?

  110. # Shanahan’s Rat Teeth says: April 21, 2010 7:47 PM
    BoltsFan says:
    April 21, 2010 4:12 PM
    “If the Raiders pull this trade out then they would be instant AFC west champs. ”
    irish4life,
    That is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen on here. They might win 3-4 more games, but Oakland would still finish 3rd or 4th in that division. The Raiders could have Jesus Christ quarterbacking and they would still suck
    –So, you’re saying 8-8 or 9-7 will only be good enough for 3rd or 4th in the AFC West? The Bolts could have Jesus Christ kicking field goals and they would still choke.
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    I can’t stop laughing.

  111. Do something…. because I can’t stand watching Jawalrus throw fifty yards a game…Bring on Big Ben.

  112. I guess the Raiders will be back in the playoffs while the Steelers go back to being also rans.

  113. I guess with yesterday being stoner christmas, I’m still feeling the side effects because I could have sworn that the headline read:
    Raiders enter Big Ben the picture.
    Of course with it being a summer blockbuster, Will Smith would play Ben.

  114. Give Pitt our 1st rounder. Not like we’re gonna do anything good with it anyways. This would be 10 times better than getting McNabb. Big Ben’s first game back from suspension will be at Oakland vs the chargers with a standing ovation guaranteed. Week 11 at Pittsburgh. It’s perfect. Al Davis, you wanna bring us back to fill the seats again, this is what you do. Cut your loss with Jamarcus and build around Big Ben. I’m going to bed now. When I wake up I better see breaking news, Big Ben to Oakland, Thanks.

  115. I will be schocked if any team(even the Raiders) give up a 1st round pick for that fat, overrated, only won because how great his teammates were, rapist.
    The only way I see him going for a first rounder is if hes not going alone. If the Steelers want a top 30 pick for him they will have to package him with either a high mid round pick or another player.
    This isnt like Vick going to the Eagles where really the big problem with him came from the outside with PETA and people like that. Ben is hated by the football community so any team that trades for him wont only be pissing off outsiders they will be pissing off their own fans too.
    NFL teams know this and also know the Steelers are up against a wall. So they are going to squeeze them to accept something less then what they want. And if the Steelers arent willing to make that adjustment they will just walk away because the problems he brings greatly out weight his talent. No matter how many superbowls hes won.

  116. tleg81 says:
    April 21, 2010 7:00 PM
    To say Ben is a top 5 qb is a joke.
    (not in order)
    Manning
    Brady
    Rivers
    Brees
    Mcnabb
    E Manning
    Romo
    Flacco
    Favre
    Rodgers
    Shaub
    Palmer
    Are all better then Ben
    And dont call me bias because I didnt name an Eagles qb.

  117. Route36West says:
    April 22, 2010 3:37 AM
    tleg81 says:
    April 21, 2010 7:00 PM
    To say Ben is a top 5 qb is a joke.
    (not in order)
    Manning
    Brady
    Rivers
    Brees
    Mcnabb
    E Manning
    Romo
    Flacco
    Favre
    Rodgers
    Shaub
    Palmer
    Are all better then Ben
    And dont call me bias because I didnt name an Eagles qb.
    P. Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees are top 3. But check the stats on the rest: Rodgers, Romo & Rivers are the only ones on your list w/ a better career QB rating than Roethlisberger. Rodgers, Romo & Schaub have a slightly higher completion pct. Only McNabb has a better W-L record. But Big Ben has as many rings as all those guys combined. I’d say he qualifies as top 5…no worse than top 6.

  118. thepittsburghkid
    This may be the reason you don’t think Ben will be traded is becaure you’re from Pittsburgh. Isn’t the senior year of school in Pit the 5th grade? Makes sense with all those steel mills there because anyone with an education would not live there.
    Yes, the Rooneys are doing everything to dump Mr. Popularity. Just think, he’s BANNED from the Steeler’s facilities! LOL LOL LOL LOL
    Maybe he’s home eating bon bons watching Oprah. He only weighs about 300 now. He would never pass the physical. LMAO
    .

  119. And whoever says that Phillip Rivers is in the top 5 QBs, you are seriously disturbed. Rivers is not nearly as good as Brees, Flacco, or even Farve. Manning is about the only QB better than Farve. You morons. Here in San Diego, people don’t even come up to speak to Rivers. They can’t stand him.
    Favre will lead the Vikings to the SB next year.

  120. CleanSlaton says:
    April 21, 2010 3:45 PM
    They already have a fatass loser at QB that doesn’t give a shit about being in the NFL in Jamarcus Russell; they don’t need two.
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    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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