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Jaguars.com knew the Jags wanted Tyson Alualu

When Commissioner Roger Goodell called the name “Tyson Alualu” with the tenth overall pick in round one, many fans repeated the name, preceded by the words, “Who the hell is . . . ?”

But one team’s official web site knew about Alualu.  It was the official web site of the team that picked him.

Vic Ketchman of Jaguars.com dropped the hint Wednesday regarding the team’s interest in the Cal defensive lineman, and he now writes that it was based on a tip from Tony Pauline of SI.com. 

Pauline and Ketchman believed that the Jaguars would trade down to get him.  And the Jaguars arguably could have traded down, but they would have risked someone else getting him first.  (Trading down also may have increased pressure to take Tim Tebow; at No. 10, no one expected them to pick Tebow.)

It proves that teams still prefer secrecy, and that the draft experts sometimes miss completely when it comes to figuring out the players who are perched in the middle of most teams’ radar.

In Jacksonville’s case, they did a great job of keeping their interest quiet.  Alualu wasn’t among the players who visited the Jags before the draft.  Or, if he was, word of the visit never didn’t get out.  Based on the information compiled by Evan Silva prior to the draft, Alualu visited only the Broncos, Patriots, Cowboys, and Falcons.

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51 Responses to “Jaguars.com knew the Jags wanted Tyson Alualu”
  1. hrudey says: Apr 23, 2010 2:16 PM

    They arguably could have traded down, but given that it was SF moving up first, and given that they were the ones who got burned on the Crabtree contract and surely wouldn’t want to slide right back into the 10 slot, perhaps they couldn’t get a deal done.

  2. DMurph says: Apr 23, 2010 2:16 PM

    Here’s a comparison of two DT’s taken in round one:
    Player A:
    83 Tackles, 33 TFL, 14.5 Sacks, 4 Passes defensed, 2 Forced fumbles, 2 Fumble recoveries, 1 INT, 18 hurries
    Combine Numbers:
    40-Yard Dash: 5.04, Bench Press: 23, Vertical Jump: 30.5, Broad Jump: 9’6, Three-Cone: 7.32
    Player B
    195 Tackles, 26 TFL, 16 Sacks, 7 Passes defensed, 4 Forced fumbles, 4 Fumble recoveries, 1 blocked kick, 1 INT, 11 hurries
    Combine Numbers:
    40-Yard Dash: 4.87, Bench Press: 21, Vertical Jump: 35.5, Broad Jump: 9’08, Three-Cone: 7.15
    Who’s who?
    Player A: Gerald McCoy
    Player B: Tyson Alualu

  3. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Apr 23, 2010 2:19 PM

    i’m sure the Jags staff have more access to film then we do so who are we to actually say this was a bad pick

  4. robert ethan says: Apr 23, 2010 2:19 PM

    Is he related to Tyson Jackson?….:)

  5. gojev93 says: Apr 23, 2010 2:19 PM

    “My attitude is, you can outsmart people some of the time, but you can out work them ALL of the time.” -Gene Smith
    The guy is the best evaluator of talent in the league and if he felt Alualu was worth a top 10 pick, then In Gene I trust.

  6. pmanningsbrother says: Apr 23, 2010 2:20 PM

    Why did’nt they trade down to round 7 and snatch this guy up?

  7. HellsGrimTyrant says: Apr 23, 2010 2:20 PM

    Whoopedoo. They kept their plans a secret. Too bad those plans sucked!

  8. kpweaver27 says: Apr 23, 2010 2:23 PM

    This was the biggest reach in the draft. There’s no excuse for not moving down if this is the guy they wanted. But hey, Arizona is thrilled the Jags passed on Dan Williams.

  9. robert ethan says: Apr 23, 2010 2:24 PM

    I think he’s related to Tyson Jackson. :)

  10. notoriousbri says: Apr 23, 2010 2:25 PM

    never didnt get out? is that a double negative? c’mon son

  11. jj jones says: Apr 23, 2010 2:27 PM

    It seems like a player now is called a “reach” or a “steal” based on rankings we see from the likes of Kiper, Mayock and Lombardi. If we saw the actual value boards that teams use, we would probably be amazed. If Mel Kiper ranks Clausen as his fourth rated player and he goes in the second round, he is considered a “steal” based on Kiper’s ranking. But every team in the first round passed on him. Denver passed on him four times.

  12. bradleygator says: Apr 23, 2010 2:27 PM

    DMurph = Gene Smith

  13. Greenantz says: Apr 23, 2010 2:37 PM

    DMurph – You layed it down plain and simple. Great job. and your right. His combine was better, college stats are better. I wanted to argue with you but DAMN-IT your correct.

  14. jj jones says: Apr 23, 2010 2:37 PM

    “But hey, Arizona is thrilled the Jags passed on Dan Williams. ”
    Was Arizona thrilled all the teams in 2007 passed on Alan Branch?

  15. Jag4Life says: Apr 23, 2010 2:38 PM

    Gene Smith says no team called to trade up to the 10th spot so he went with their board. That’s why teams have a scouting department to find hidden or overlooked talent. Tyson Alualu has top 10 numbers, better than McCoy even. But since ESPN or Mel Kiper Jr hasn’t mentioned his name the past few months he must suck, right? Gene Smith has heart to do things his way, gotta give him props.

  16. kcrockett1 says: Apr 23, 2010 2:41 PM

    Giving lessons on double negatives today, Florio? Because personally I never didn’t learn how to use them properly

  17. Zox says: Apr 23, 2010 2:53 PM

    Leaders lead and make bold decisions.
    Followers look at internet mock drafts, football magazines, mel kiper and the like and think that those are the blueprints everyone must follow.

  18. Reptar says: Apr 23, 2010 2:58 PM

    LOL @ people calling Gene Smith “the best talent evaluator in the league.”
    Someone remind me the last time the Jags won the AFC South.

  19. KM91 says: Apr 23, 2010 2:58 PM

    After doing some research, this guy looks like a serious player. His stats, as DMurph laid out, are similar, if not superior to the 3rd overall pick. I’ll take it. I can’t wait to see him in August and September.

  20. funi says: Apr 23, 2010 3:03 PM

    “But hey, Arizona is thrilled the Jags passed on Dan Williams. ”
    Was Arizona thrilled all the teams in 2007 passed on Alan Branch?
    They were happy when 30 teams passed on Beanie Wells! Cards will dominate the NFC West for years!

  21. dabarber says: Apr 23, 2010 3:03 PM

    Wow, 195 Tackles–are those his stats since pee-wee ball??
    ————————————————–
    Here’s a comparison of two DT’s taken in round one:
    Player A:
    83 Tackles, 33 TFL, 14.5 Sacks, 4 Passes defensed, 2 Forced fumbles, 2 Fumble recoveries, 1 INT, 18 hurries
    Combine Numbers:
    40-Yard Dash: 5.04, Bench Press: 23, Vertical Jump: 30.5, Broad Jump: 9’6, Three-Cone: 7.32
    Player B
    195 Tackles, 26 TFL, 16 Sacks, 7 Passes defensed, 4 Forced fumbles, 4 Fumble recoveries, 1 blocked kick, 1 INT, 11 hurries
    Combine Numbers:
    40-Yard Dash: 4.87, Bench Press: 21, Vertical Jump: 35.5, Broad Jump: 9’08, Three-Cone: 7.15
    Who’s who?
    Player A: Gerald McCoy
    Player B: Tyson Alualu

  22. Laj Mahal says: Apr 23, 2010 3:04 PM

    Based on Stats alone, if the Jags really wanted a possible dominant PB DT, I’d say this wasn’t a bad choice at all.
    Risky, yes, but only because it was with pick 10.
    This man will NOT bust, he will at worst be a productive hard working player for his entire career, but on talent alone was he worth the 10th pick?
    My answer, yes.

  23. crashteamadam says: Apr 23, 2010 3:09 PM

    DMurph= Donna Murphy. She works for the local radio station..and she is right. Alualu was the right pick. If we dropped down to the end of the round and didnt draft Tebow we would have never heard the end of it. Fact of the matter is if Tebow was drafted Garrard would have been looking over his shoulder from day one because of Florida Fans chanting Tebow in the stands, meanwhile Tebow has no business starting in the NFL for at least a year, maybe two.

  24. gatorkevin says: Apr 23, 2010 3:09 PM

    Repar, you moron: Gene Smith has been the GM for one full season. He drafted exceptionally well last year, his first year as GM and had the Jags — the youngest team in the AFC South — in playoff contention until the very end of the season. You really should read — or think — before you write.

  25. dafish says: Apr 23, 2010 3:10 PM

    murph,
    You have the combine stats flip flopped. Alualu had more reps a slower time and shorter leap. BUT, he played all positions on the D line at Cal. In fact they kind of alluded to McCoy’s lack of upper body strength last night.
    I’m really gonna like watching this Alualu kid. I just hope he signs quickly with no holdout. That will go a long way toward his acceptance in Jax.

  26. DMurph says: Apr 23, 2010 3:13 PM

    Bottom line the kid might bust, he might not. Making a snap call on someone you’ve probably never seen play is beyond ignorant.
    Remember when they traded their second round pick this year for Mel Kiper’s 108th rated CB last year? How’d that work out?
    I just don’t get the rush to judgement. If a guy plays well noone cares if they were drafted early or late. Did we already forget what a massive reach Chris Johnson was?

  27. chemicalxv says: Apr 23, 2010 3:14 PM

    “# Reptar says: April 23, 2010 2:58 PM
    LOL @ people calling Gene Smith “the best talent evaluator in the league.”
    Someone remind me the last time the Jags won the AFC South.”
    Gene Smith only became the GM two years ago smartass.

  28. jimicos says: Apr 23, 2010 3:26 PM

    “Or, if he was, word of the visit never didn’t get out.”
    ————————
    I almost didn’t not fail to understand that misstatement.

  29. jimicos says: Apr 23, 2010 3:27 PM

    Zox says:
    April 23, 2010 2:53 PM
    Leaders lead and make bold decisions.
    Followers look at internet mock drafts, football magazines, mel kiper and the like and think that those are the blueprints everyone must follow.
    And nut-lickers lick nuts.
    ————————-
    I added to your post.

  30. LewD says: Apr 23, 2010 3:27 PM

    Mayock knew this pick ahead of time … he blurted out “watch out for Alualu here” as the cameras were panning to the commissioner for the announcement … I thought he was joking, as I’d never heard or read the name before ….

  31. jimicos says: Apr 23, 2010 3:30 PM

    chemicalxv says:
    April 23, 2010 3:14 PM
    Gene Smith only became the GM two years ago smartass.
    ————————-
    All the more reason to question anyone claiming he’s the best talent evaluator in the league.

  32. KM91 says: Apr 23, 2010 3:32 PM

    Is there really a Raider fan trying to school the Jaguars on busts? From the team that us the very epitome of what bad drafting does? How’s Russell working for you? You know, the guy who is basically eating his way out of the league? Or how about Darrius “Can’t catch a cold” Heyward-Bey? Tell you what, dogma1, On December 12, when the Jags play the Raiders, We’ll see how our “bust”does against the biggest bust since Ryan Leaf. He’ll probably have J-Russ eating dirt as he runs into a sack.

  33. DCJeff says: Apr 23, 2010 3:35 PM

    Our old GM is in the process of destroying the Lions. Jags win the AFC South within 2-3 years. Look back at the critiques they got for drafting Terrence Knighton and Derek Cox last year. Check out how they did, buddy…

  34. DMurph says: Apr 23, 2010 3:39 PM

    @ dafish – the stats are in the correct order. McCoy had a better broad jump and put up more reps, Alualu outperformed in the other measures.
    @crashteamadam – Sorry, not Donna Murphy. I’m sure she’s good peeps though!

  35. jimicos says: Apr 23, 2010 3:40 PM

    DMurph says:
    April 23, 2010 2:16 PM
    Here’s a comparison of two DT’s taken in round one:
    Player A:
    83 Tackles, 33 TFL, 14.5 Sacks, 4 Passes defensed, 2 Forced fumbles, 2 Fumble recoveries, 1 INT, 18 hurries
    Combine Numbers:
    40-Yard Dash: 5.04, Bench Press: 23, Vertical Jump: 30.5, Broad Jump: 9’6, Three-Cone: 7.32
    Player B
    195 Tackles, 26 TFL, 16 Sacks, 7 Passes defensed, 4 Forced fumbles, 4 Fumble recoveries, 1 blocked kick, 1 INT, 11 hurries
    Combine Numbers:
    40-Yard Dash: 4.87, Bench Press: 21, Vertical Jump: 35.5, Broad Jump: 9’08, Three-Cone: 7.15
    Who’s who?
    Player A: Gerald McCoy
    Player B: Tyson Alualu
    ————————–
    Nevermind that Alualu produced those numbers in 4 years and McCoy played 3… Surely that doesn’t play into it, does it?

  36. DMurph says: Apr 23, 2010 3:41 PM

    @dafish – the stats are in the correct order, take another look :). McCoy did outperform on the Broad Jump and Bench Press, but not in the other areas.
    @crashteamadam – sorry, not Donna Murphy. I’m sure she’s good peeps though!

  37. Brohamma says: Apr 23, 2010 3:46 PM

    @ all of you defending Gene Smith’s draft record.. please tell me someone coming out of a college program that could NOT have played for that Jacksonville team?
    Look, its going to be easier to move the team to Los Angeles when your argument to the other owners is “the market is not finacially viable,” than “I can make a whole lot more cash on the west coast, let me move the team.”
    This pick was made so that the Jags can move.
    If you don’t think so, then why not “reach” on the Jacksonville Jesus instead of Alualu? At least the Tebow reach would have generated a mountain of revenue for the team; thus allowing it to remain in Florida. The Alualu pick only helps to alienate an already weak fanbase.

  38. raiders177 says: Apr 23, 2010 3:47 PM

    # KM91 says: April 23, 2010 3:32 PM
    Is there really a Raider fan trying to school the Jaguars on busts? From the team that us the very epitome of what bad drafting does? How’s Russell working for you? You know, the guy who is basically eating his way out of the league? Or how about Darrius “Can’t catch a cold” Heyward-Bey? Tell you what, dogma1, On December 12, when the Jags play the Raiders, We’ll see how our “bust”does against the biggest bust since Ryan Leaf. He’ll probably have J-Russ eating dirt as he runs into a sack.
    ______________________________________
    How is that gonna happen? Russell will be on the bench.

  39. dafish says: Apr 23, 2010 3:47 PM

    From Thursday’s Ask Vic:
    Vic: I have a prejudice against centers and guards in the first round. They have to be special to make my top 32. Mike Iupati is special, plus, he can also play tackle. In talking to a couple of my guys, so to speak, I did not get the impression they considered Pouncey to be special. They told me he was the best of a bad center crop. I hear, however, that the Steelers are prepared to make him the 18th pick of the draft, which would make him special. If you were able to look at every team’s board, I think you would be surprised at how different they are. It’s not just mine. I’ll give you an example. Kareem Jackson, the cornerback from Alabama, is a player of a wide diversity of opinion. Some teams think he might be the best of the cornerback crop. [b]The Cal defensive tackle, Tyson Alualu, is another such player. Some teams wrinkle their nose at him, while others are crazy about him.[/b] What I give you are 32 names I believe would be on most boards. Then I call some people I know and check it with them, and I get comments such as, “I like what you’ve done,” or “You have him too low,” etc. Please, don’t take this too seriously.

  40. khul10 says: Apr 23, 2010 3:58 PM

    ADDING PLAYER C…
    Player A:
    83 Tackles, 33 TFL, 14.5 Sacks, 4 Passes defensed, 2 Forced fumbles, 2 Fumble recoveries, 1 INT, 18 hurries
    Combine Numbers:
    40-Yard Dash: 5.04, Bench Press: 23, Vertical Jump: 30.5, Broad Jump: 9’6, Three-Cone: 7.32
    Player B
    195 Tackles, 26 TFL, 16 Sacks, 7 Passes defensed, 4 Forced fumbles, 4 Fumble recoveries, 1 blocked kick, 1 INT, 11 hurries
    Combine Numbers:
    40-Yard Dash: 4.87, Bench Press: 21, Vertical Jump: 35.5, Broad Jump: 9’08, Three-Cone: 7.15
    Player C
    194 tackles, 47 TFL, 40 sacks, 1 Pass Defended, 8 Forced Fumbles, 2 Fumble Recoveries, 1 INT 22 Hurries
    Combine Numbers:
    40-yard dash: 4.81 Bench Press: 29, Vertical Jump: 37, Broad Jump: 10′ 1, Three-Cone:6.91
    Who’s who?
    Player A: Gerald McCoy
    Player B: Tyson Alualu
    Player C: Daniel Teo Neshiem (UW, same conference as Alualu)

  41. Seeryer says: Apr 23, 2010 4:18 PM

    dafish,
    The combine numbers are correctly listed. If Henderson is still on the roster after this weekend the Jags can kick Alualu to an end spot and have Henderson and Knighton inside with Kampann at the other end. I think that is a tough defensive front against the run. He will be a starting tackle with Knighton but we can beef up against the run in certain situations with that alignment. In pass situations they have Alualu and Harvey inside and Heyward and Kampann on the ends. That is all of a sudden a decent pass rush. I like what they did. I like it alot. The bottom line is if they could have traded back and gotten decnt value, not even great value they would have done it. But the 49ers were low balling the hell out of them and the Jags could not risk a fall to 17 because THEY LOVED THIS KID SINCE MARCH and they most likely were not the only team. In fact, he would have probably been the pick even if McClain and Spilelr were still on the board. This was their guy. If DMurph is Donna Murphy she knows when Del Rio was on with Lamm last week he said “don’t be surprised if the guy we pick puzzles the Kipers and McShays of the world”.

  42. jj jones says: Apr 23, 2010 4:21 PM

    “This pick was made so that the Jags can move.
    If you don’t think so, then why not “reach” on the Jacksonville Jesus instead of Alualu? At least the Tebow reach would have generated a mountain of revenue for the team; thus allowing it to remain in Florida.”
    False. The pick was made because Gene Smith wants to build a winning football team. He did not work as a scout for 20 years just to tank a franchise. Get a life.

  43. Grahtz says: Apr 23, 2010 4:37 PM

    umm…
    Gerald McCoy
    2008 Season 30 TT / 11.0 TFL / 6.5 Sacks
    2009 Season 34 TT / 15.5 TFL / 6.0 Sacks
    Tyson Alualu
    2008 Season 62 TT / 11.0 TFL / 6.0 Sacks
    2009 Season 65 TT / 11.0 TFL / 7.5 Sacks

  44. boltmancraft says: Apr 23, 2010 4:42 PM

    The Chargers never brought in Ryan Mathews for a visit, but they gave up a boatload to get him. The Raiders never brought in McClain. The Dolphins didn’t bring in Odrick. The Texans never brought in Jackson. The Broncos never brought in Thomas, but on a side note, Josh McDaniels wants to have Tim Tebow’s lovechild. The Ben-girls didn’t bring in Gresham. It happens. Alualu is going to be great. I was actually hoping the Chargers would pick him up in the 2nd or 3rd, but now, with no pick until #91, I don’t know what they’ll do.

  45. robert ethan says: Apr 23, 2010 5:03 PM

    “Hello may I speak to Tyson?”
    “Alu alu?”.
    “Hello, hello, yes, I’d like to speak to Tyson please.”.
    “Alu alu?”.
    “Yes, yes, hello can you hear me, Tyson, I’d like to speak to Tyson..”.
    “Alu alu?”.
    “Never mind……****ing boat people, learn English.”.

  46. Seeryer says: Apr 23, 2010 5:05 PM

    jimicos,
    In 2009:
    McCoy:34 tackles, including six sacks.
    Alualu:60 tackles, including 7.5 sacks.
    Do you research at all before you blabber out?
    NEXT
    Khul10,
    I’ll take the guys that weigh 30 pounds more than player C.
    ANYONE ELSE?

  47. bones1941 says: Apr 23, 2010 11:00 PM

    I hope Tebow comes back and Haunts the Jags
    big time. I think he will do very good with the Broncos.
    Jags had a choice of 3 Quarterbacks and pass on
    all three? That is amazing.
    I hope these 2 Defensive lineman work out but let me tell you something they are not playing in college anymore.
    If the Jags have another losing season there may be a lot of new faces on the Jags next year. Right
    now I don’t see them doing any better then last
    year. So your not going to see the fans/Critics.
    Screw them and what they think ! We will see
    and very soon.

  48. bones1941 says: Apr 23, 2010 11:04 PM

    Gene Smith Better hope he is right !!!!!

  49. Brohamma says: Apr 24, 2010 3:27 PM

    @jj jones
    I didn’t say he was trying to tank the franchise. I said he’s trying to MOVE it. Wake up.
    Regardless, Jacksonville is not a viable NFL market anyhow. The people there in northern Florida perfer the NCAA.

  50. PocketDrew says: Apr 24, 2010 5:23 PM

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    Check it out!

  51. jimicos says: Apr 27, 2010 12:18 PM

    Seeryer says:
    April 23, 2010 5:05 PM
    jimicos,
    In 2009:
    McCoy:34 tackles, including six sacks.
    Alualu:60 tackles, including 7.5 sacks.
    Do you research at all before you blabber out?
    ————————-
    Yes, actually. That’s why I posted in the first place. My point was NOT that McCoy is head and shoulders better than Alualu. Try reading what I wrote instead of putting words in my mouth.
    My point was that DMurph’s stats left out a key point.. That Alualu played about 10 more games than McCoy. Would you like to dispute that? If not, STFU.

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