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Roethlisberger hired bodyguards after having a gun put to his head

In an eye-opening segment on Sunday morning’s Outside the Lines, the network that initially ignored for multiple days the first allegations of sexual assault against Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, several intriguing facts and contentions emerged.

For starters, the report focused on a claim Roethlisberger made to ESPN The Magazine a couple of years ago that he decided to hire bodyguards after someone pulled a gun on him.  A friend of a teammate, speaking with the 60 Minutes-style darkened face and altered voice, said that one of Roethlisberger’s bodyguards explained that the gun was pulled by the boyfriend of a girl to whom Roethlisberger was talking outside a bar.

Meanwhile, former Steelers running back Najeh Davenport and former Steelers safety Mike Logan talked about an incident that occurred in the locker room in the season after the team’s victory in Super Bowl XL.  Linebacker Joey Porter, in a speech that Davenport described as “powerful” (like, we suppose, the odor from an uncontained turd in a clothes hamper), called Ben out for doing his own thing and going his own way — and for being the last guy to arrive at work and the first one to leave.

ESPN’s Kelly Naqi also did some sleuthing as to one of the most common local complaints regarding Roethlisberger:  that he behaves like an ass in public.  Citing workers at local establishments who requested anonymity, Naqi reported that Roethlisberger has a reputation for being “demanding and condescending” to staff, and “rude” to customers.

So as the Steelers, unable to get what they wanted via trade, now forced to try to rehab the situation, it looks like they’ve got their work cut out for them, both in the locker room and beyond.

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154 Responses to “Roethlisberger hired bodyguards after having a gun put to his head”
  1. fmax4 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:26 AM

    Damn Flo! Put the crack pipe down! Stop beating this dead horse!

  2. twinsanity says: Apr 25, 2010 9:28 AM

    * Imagines how this would play if Ben looked more like Chris Johnson *

  3. joetoronto says: Apr 25, 2010 9:28 AM

    Without a doubt, the guy is an asshole, I think we all know that by now.
    How about Davenport though, who is he to put ANYBODY down, after crapping in his ex-girlfriends closet?
    I mean really.

  4. cutting edge says: Apr 25, 2010 9:31 AM

    Here’s your daily dose… Here we go again.
    How about some real FOOTBALL news!?
    Not like anything significant just happened (Draft)

  5. Pdubb48 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:31 AM

    This guy is a clown! If he hadn’t won any super bowls no one would talk about him and thank god he had a defense and a running game to aid thos victories! He should be treated the way Vick was treated. Both terrible crimes, yet Ben seems to get off with practically nothing. Guess he’ll rape someone else next season and pay them off and get a 7 game suspension. Great, way to go nfl.

  6. I_Hate_Yams says: Apr 25, 2010 9:32 AM

    I’m a huge Charger fan and from the sounds of this guy, he sounds just as bad as #16 was off the field. However, only Jamarcus Russell comes close to the miserable play on the field. Rapelisberger sounds like a real piece of work.

  7. Big Pimpin' Spendin' Cheese says: Apr 25, 2010 9:32 AM

    I think the report said that person talking about the gun to his head wasn’t a teammate, but a friend of a teammate.

  8. kosarisking says: Apr 25, 2010 9:33 AM

    Trade this moron and I’ll jump on the Steelers bandwagon (except 2 Sundays a year).

  9. Ravenmuscle says: Apr 25, 2010 9:34 AM

    So Ben is a jackass and a turd…tell us something we DON’T know

  10. Revolution22 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:34 AM

    News just keeps getting better, and better on ROFLisberger, doesn’t it?

  11. stiller43 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:35 AM

    The majority of this story is pointless, everyone already knew he was an ass in public.

  12. 27Rice says: Apr 25, 2010 9:36 AM

    “one of Roethlisberger’s bodyguards explained that the gun was pulled by the boyfriend of a girl to whom Roethlisberger was talking outside a bar.”
    —————
    Congrats to that boyfriend! He stopped another sexual assault.

  13. GirthyOne says: Apr 25, 2010 9:36 AM

    All the new rookies drafted and you have to bring more of this shit up again. WTF?

  14. Mean D says: Apr 25, 2010 9:36 AM

    The man is a complete turd.

  15. Chapnasty2 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:38 AM

    Maybe it was the father of one of the girls he raped. That being said, I can’t wait for the Steeler fans to show their class and blame this on media spin. How much does the media need to spin such talk?

  16. last starfighter says: Apr 25, 2010 9:40 AM

    “A teammate, speaking with the 60 Minutes-style darkened face and altered voice, said that one of Roethlisberger’s bodyguards explained that the gun was pulled by the boyfriend of a girl to whom Roethlisberger was talking outside a bar.”
    Translation: The boyfriend of a girl he probably raped put a gun to his head. It would be hard to blame the guy. No way any women, without alcohol and coercion, gets with a guy that ugly.

  17. AllThat says: Apr 25, 2010 9:40 AM

    He will always be a tool.

  18. .RebaTe says: Apr 25, 2010 9:43 AM

    Pffffttt..
    You just blew a golden opportunity to suggest he might have shot himself in the leg ala Plaxico, and got away with it because he’s white and paid off the right people.
    Jeezus Florio, if you’re gonna be such a f*cking hack, at least get THAT right.

  19. Mavix says: Apr 25, 2010 9:45 AM

    He’s a piece of shit. A big dumb one too.

  20. FumbleNuts says: Apr 25, 2010 9:45 AM

    “The gun was pulled by the boyfriend of a girl to whom Roethlisberger was talking outside a bar.”
    He was likely trying to get her to screw in the parking lot.
    He behaves like an asshole in public.
    He is condescending and rude to most everyone around him.
    What a Tool!

  21. dogma1 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:46 AM

    Big Ben is sick, he needs help. Steelers Super Bowl wins are now tainted.

  22. Dave3258 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:54 AM

    Old news and ancient history . Its time to move forward , not look back . Heres the facts . Does Ben drink to much ? Yes . Does Ben make bad decisions off the field ? Yes . Does Ben like the ladies ? Yes . Does Ben deserve a chance to redeem himself and turn his life around ? Yes . Now , do any of the above questions make Ben the worst human being that God ever put on this earth ? THE ANSWER IS NO ! Please once and for all , lets find something else to talk about , this horse has been beat to death .

  23. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: Apr 25, 2010 9:54 AM

    If a gun to his head didn’t straighten up his behavior nothing will. He must’ve had a domineering angry verbally abusive type A father and pussified take what you’re given mother, quite common in suburbia. The American Dream my ass.

  24. Ravenmaniac says: Apr 25, 2010 9:58 AM

    It is obvious ben does not put very much work into preperation. I believe Tomlin called ben out for this as well in a presser a few years ago.
    There is a reason ben runs around like he is in a backyard football game and makes “great” plays out of nothing….he does not know how to read defenses!!!! This is another reason the Oline get so much of the blame for him getting sacked…he holds onto the ball way too long….he does not know how to read defenses and get rid of the ball when he was supposed to.
    While I hope the guy can grow up and stop acting like an ass….guys like this often cannot change…mark my words, unfortunately for all of the worshipers, ben will not be the QB of the steelers in 2011!!!

  25. jersey73 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:58 AM

    Being an ass to waiters and waitresses??? Boy, Ben must be eating a lot of snot and spit in his food nowadays (as well as food that fell on the floor first.) NEVER, NEVER, NEVER be an ass to people who served you food unless there was a major issue, you’ve already been served the food, and you never plan on coming back to that restaurant.

  26. scrapdawg12 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:58 AM

    Lil Ben needs Sex Rehab. He should give Tiger a call. Maybe the two of them can become best friends and drink beers over a campfire and tell stories about how many women they banged. Both guys are idiots but at least Tiger does not have rape allegations on his shoulders. Ben is a sleezebag, should be kicked out of the league.

  27. Buffalo says: Apr 25, 2010 10:01 AM

    Why is Joey Porter Talking trash about Big Ben look at all the things he’s done !!!.

  28. d.b.cooper says: Apr 25, 2010 10:03 AM

    dogma1,
    Steeler SB wins not tainted at all.
    You are jealous.

  29. pghguyy33 says: Apr 25, 2010 10:06 AM

    @dogma…. how does the douchebags actions tarnish the other 52 players on the team?

  30. last starfighter says: Apr 25, 2010 10:06 AM

    I love The Onion. The third opinion here could easily have been written by any of the steeler fans posting here.
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/on-ben-roethlisberger-not-being-charged-with-sexua,17266/

  31. Child_Please! says: Apr 25, 2010 10:07 AM

    Please people, quit talking bad things about the babies daddy of STEELERSMICHELLE and DEB lil rugrats. You know them two defend this scumbag rapist on each and every post, and they see absolutely nothing wrong with conceiving children in public nasty bathrooms.

  32. tj.52 says: Apr 25, 2010 10:07 AM

    dogma1 says:
    Big Ben is sick, he needs help. Steelers Super Bowl wins are now tainted.
    ——————————————————–
    “Steelers Super Bowl wins are now tainted.”
    Fixed

  33. cgc1969 says: Apr 25, 2010 10:09 AM

    no the superbowl wins are not tainted, just ben

  34. Leroy'sButler says: Apr 25, 2010 10:09 AM

    Closet Shitter has no reason to lie.

  35. stugacz says: Apr 25, 2010 10:11 AM

    (An Open Letter to Big Ben)
    DEAR BEN,
    Here’s a tip, when giving your SECOND public statement surrounding a sexual assault case against you, try not to look like a rapist. I know it’s difficult for you and that you have come a long way from the Phat Farm dress shirts and Penny Hardaway high-tops look you had going when you first entered the league (I am willing to believe that the devil tee-shirt was borrowed), but couldn’t you have at least shaved? Put on a three-piece suit? Not had a ridiculously greased back Rick Flair mullet? I was so nervous you were going to end your apology by screaming “WOOOOOOO!” that I almost didn’t notice your total lack of sincerity. I’ve seen more heart felt apologies on Sober House II. Next time you allegedly assault a chick in a bathroom somewhere, you might as well let Dog the Bounty Hunter make your statement for you. The way your look is going, people may not even realize that a swap had been made. Just have him read it in the first person and tell him to think about dropping n-bombs to get him emotional. All kidding aside, I think we both know that there is only one way to make sure there isn’t a next time Ben………….. STOP ACTING LIKE A JAGOFF!
    Seriously dude, you have a 100 million dollar potential net worth, you are the face of the most storied franchise in football, and you live in a city that literally relies on the Steelers for hope and happiness in their lives. No one is saying you can’t have fun, but do you really need to be in a dirt bag college bar in some po-dunk town in Georgia getting blowies in a urine-puddled restroom? Your judgment is extremely questionable at best, and its time to take a look in that fogged up bathroom mirror that has phone numbers and confederate flag stickers all over it. You may not be guilty of rape, but you have to be responsible for the situations you put yourself in. You need to realize that your legacy and our collective future cannot afford to be put in some hammered 20 year old girl’s hands. So please………. STOP ACTING LIKE A JAGOFF!
    20 year olds Ben? Really? I can’t stand to be around drunk 20 year old chicks and I have a net worth of $153.00; they are annoying, stupid and can’t be trusted. You need to adjust your scope and start sniping cougars. Yep Ben an older woman will let you do the dirtiest things you can think of and add some you haven?t even thought of yet, then go over the playbook with you and give you a ride to practice the next morning. A cougar knows what’s up and she is down for it. You need a wily old vet, not a red shirt freshman. 20 year olds got you into this mess Ben; cougars can get you out of it. But if you do decide to continue with the club hopping, for the love of God …….STOP ACTING LIKE A JAGOFF!
    The thing you don’t seem to be getting Ben is that this isn’t just about YOU anymore, it’s about US. When you put on that jersey, you become a part of this family, you become part of our history, you represent a nation that spans the globe. It goes beyond sports with this team. If you treat it with respect and honor and play your hardest, you will always be a celebrity in this town. We will eat at your restaurant even if the food is terrible, we will buy your book even if its stupid and we will donate to your charity even if it’s not our cause. But you better be humble and appreciate the privilege of playing for this organization and representing this city. People here don’t expect anyone to be perfect, but they do expect someone to fully appreciate the opportunities they are given. When they feel like someone is ungrateful at every turn and acting like they are above the family code, people get pissed off. You are not above this family Ben. STOP ACTING LIKE A JAGOFF!!
    (The Steeler Nation)

  36. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 25, 2010 10:12 AM

    “A friend of a teammate, speaking with the 60 Minutes-style darkened face and altered voice, said that one of Roethlisberger’s bodyguards explained that the gun was pulled by the boyfriend of a girl to whom Roethlisberger was talking outside a bar.”
    I’d pull a gun too if some guy was “talking” to my passed out girlfriend with his pants off in the parking lot of a bar.

  37. Big J says: Apr 25, 2010 10:14 AM

    It seems most teams just aren’t interested in another teams problems. If they do decide to take the risk, they won’t give up much to get them. Just ask Albert Haynesworth.

  38. .RebaTe says: Apr 25, 2010 10:14 AM

    FumbleNuts says: April 25, 2010 9:45 AM
    “He behaves like an asshole in public.
    He is condescending and rude to most everyone around him.
    What a Tool!”
    You just described 99.9% of the hater trolls who post here non-stop…

  39. connie says: Apr 25, 2010 10:15 AM

    Lets all feel sorry for the big stup. Can’t believe some people in Pgh can’t still believe what an a–
    he is. Tomorrow when he makes his statement (and that is all it is) he will tell us he had a hang nail that is why he acts like that. The sad part is half the people will believe him.
    Lets put a big red star after his name after everything he does PIG BEN

  40. Hillbilly Jim says: Apr 25, 2010 10:19 AM

    Is Ben going to have to get Pouncey drunk to put his hands under his ass?

  41. enik says: Apr 25, 2010 10:21 AM

    Joey Porter and Najeh Davenport. Both are true aholes themselves.

  42. jonesy1124 says: Apr 25, 2010 10:21 AM

    twinsanity: You’re a jackass..Ben has gotten ripped all over the place. He was the 1st player not convicted to be suspended, so stop with the racist whining bullsh*t
    Hey, “imagines” if you could speak english

  43. Omart Rooney says: Apr 25, 2010 10:29 AM

    Steelers are a mess.
    Trade the fool.

  44. DoctorK says: Apr 25, 2010 10:39 AM

    As fans, now more than ever you really have to separate the professional player who plays on the team you follow from the individual who has a personal life. Whether it’s sex scandals, drugs, guns, performance enhancing drugs, most pro players today in just about any sport aren’t the type of people you’d want to hang around. The Steelers are a mixed bag. Hines Ward is a helluva good guy off of the field. Ben appears to be a real creep.
    I’ll root for the Steelers on the field, but I don’t need to be within 10 miles of them off of it. Certainly Ravens and Bengals fans can understand this. You root for the team but when the games over, the “admiration” drops dead.

  45. JimmySmith says: Apr 25, 2010 10:40 AM

    The difference is, Davenport left his turd outside the locker room, Big Ben brings the smell of shit in every time he shows up.
    Is it fair to say that Ben’s reputation has been cemented in the public’s mind forever? Except for the Steeler fans who still think they deserved to win the last two Superbowls without the ref’s help.

  46. mobey says: Apr 25, 2010 10:40 AM

    “joetoronto says:
    April 25, 2010 9:28 AM
    Without a doubt, the guy is an asshole, I think we all know that by now.
    How about Davenport though, who is he to put ANYBODY down, after crapping in his ex-girlfriends closet?
    I mean really.”
    ************************
    Pissburgh, class from top to bottom. And here’s coach Coward letting it happen. Real tough guy. Real family guy.
    Makes me puke more than having to visit the rat infested city.

  47. steelerfanforlife says: Apr 25, 2010 10:42 AM

    Well it was nice having 3 days off. I’ll come back to PFT once some real NFL stories come out.
    Mr. Florio just b/c you get a 100 comments on every Ben story doesn’t mean we want more. It’s the same 10 people posting the same things they have for over a month now. Real football fans want to hear about real news. Maybe you could make a seperate site for those gossip boys who just love to give their opinion while waiting for their tea to steep.

  48. irish4life says: Apr 25, 2010 10:47 AM

    The phrase “you think you know, but you really have no idea” comes to mind when watching that clip. I can believe that report and what they said. When people get more fame they turn into different people. The Steelers are going to suffer for a long time with Big Ben being the quarterback. I know I’ll root against them while he is the QB.

  49. badthings says: Apr 25, 2010 10:48 AM

    PigBen had a guy hold a gun to his head because he was going after a woman at a bar???? Unbelievable who would of thought this could happen?
    Classless Player, Classless Fans

  50. War_Paint says: Apr 25, 2010 10:49 AM

    All of this is most likely the tip of the iceberg. Sexual predators aren’t formed over night, nor are they reformed over night.
    Ben will be involved in more incidents and more tawdry tales will emerge from his past now that the flood gates are open.
    Obviously the Rooney’s don’t have the stomach to put an end to this, but sooner or later the Comish will, he has to before it reflects on the entire league and not just Pittsburgh.
    If I was a Steeler fan I’d be wanting this to go away. If it carries on much longer the entire legacy of the organization will be overshadowed and tainted by this loser.

  51. PAJoe says: Apr 25, 2010 10:50 AM

    Lifelong steeler fan here. I won’t be buying any steeler junk this year that is for sure! As fans we all know that many of these over paid athletes are jerks, but when you hear and read about it, it’s sickening. If you have a 100 million dollar contract, why wouldn’t you consider yourself very blessed and spread a few dollars around here and there, leave a nice tip for someone??
    It’s going to be hard to root for the steelers this year, cause when Ben gets hit, I really won’t feel bad at all!!! I’d like to see the line lay down a couple of times a game just to see him get hit!!!! lol

  52. TXBuckeye says: Apr 25, 2010 10:54 AM

    I like how there’s all these people complaining and wanting you to put up “FOOTBALL NEWS.” Are they not aware that you have been putting up an article for pretty much every pick in the draft? I think it is much more likely they want to keep thinking Ruthlessraper is a great guy and their infallible hero.

  53. BigBear123 says: Apr 25, 2010 10:55 AM

    that the gun was pulled by the boyfriend of a girl to whom Roethlisberger was talking outside a bar.
    ———–
    I heard Ben pulled his pistol out first.

  54. mobey says: Apr 25, 2010 11:03 AM

    Here’s to hoping someone goes low and blows out his knee.
    At least then innocent young girls will have a chance to out run him.
    But I forgot, he’s not been convicted.
    Yes he is innocent of the multiple rapes…
    and OJ never killed anyone.

  55. SHACKFU says: Apr 25, 2010 11:09 AM

    Great work, Florio!
    Keep it coming. There is NOTHING more enjoyable than hearing all of the douchebag Steeler fans bitch and moan about how “enough is enough.”
    Consider all of this b.s. backpay owed for your two Super Bowl’s Big Ben brought you.
    0-4 has a nice ring to it, huh?

  56. Spacemonkey says: Apr 25, 2010 11:10 AM

    Something about a report with the majority of supplied information coming from “sources requesting anonymity” makes my stomach turn.
    I understand the whole “free speech” thing, and people have to protect their jobs and all – but if you don’t have to be held accountable for what you say, then you’re just going to make up whatever crap you want to.
    Under conditions of anonymity, I could claim whatever I wanted. Like that night with Ben, the donkey and the circus midgets; or maybe Najeh Davenport and the “Butterfinger in the swimming pool” incident.
    Blabbing to a reporter and not being accountable for your words, well, sucks and is a waste of time for people looking for legitimate, credible information and facts…
    Come on folks! Grow some testicles or STFU!

  57. funi says: Apr 25, 2010 11:11 AM

    Joey Porter was shot in the ass outside a night club! This punk ha sno room to talk. Ben took him to a super bowl the Joey was on a 1-15 team!

  58. Huckle says: Apr 25, 2010 11:12 AM

    To all the people that think the boyfriend was reacting to his girl actually getting raped, wrong.
    I don’t recall anyone getting arrested for brandishing on Rapistberger.
    It had to be a jealousy thing. Otherwise, Ben would have been killed.

  59. Citizen Strange says: Apr 25, 2010 11:12 AM

    I thought you meant that somebody put a gun to his head and demanded that he hire bodyguards.

  60. RayDaMayor says: Apr 25, 2010 11:12 AM

    Ben shoulda just whipped out his own pistol and fired away……..he has no problem whipping it out on all the young women in his presence.

  61. contract says: Apr 25, 2010 11:12 AM

    “Trade this moron and I’ll jump on the Steelers bandwagon”
    Dear KosarIsKing
    Roses are red
    violets are blue
    Byner is in the endzone
    but the ball is on the 2
    – love Steeler fans :)
    Yeah I ripped that off from someone else, but the name escapes me.

  62. kosarsmyidol says: Apr 25, 2010 11:13 AM

    dogma1 says: April 25, 2010 9:46 AM
    “Big Ben is sick, he needs help. Steelers Super Bowl wins are now tainted.”
    Too bad he doesn’t play tight end, as I could think of an appropriately named replacement…

  63. TheToolofTools says: Apr 25, 2010 11:13 AM

    from superbowl qb
    to prison bitch
    it’s going to be one or the other.

  64. stanjam says: Apr 25, 2010 11:17 AM

    So this guy is supposed to magically turn his life around in a couple months? There are deep psychological issues here.
    Yet he will likely end up serving a four game suspension because everything will have quieted down.
    Now some people will say they could care less how the guy acts, he is paid to play football. Sorry, but at the money levels these guys are paid they should be held to a much higher level. The league does this a little, but not nearly enough.
    It is going to take him a lot more than a couple of months to change this behavior. This SHOULD end up being a minimum 8 week suspension.

  65. Dave3258 says: Apr 25, 2010 11:32 AM

    Ben Roethlisberger is a Steeler and hes going to be a Steeler for the forseeable future . If you learn to accept that everyone will sleep better at night and we can finally start talking about other subject matter . At the end of the day , all you folks that are preparing the cross to put Ben Roethlisbergers crucified body on , you’ll be the exact same ones screaming and cheering for the guy , when hes throwing for 300 yards and a couple touchdowns in November and December .

  66. purpleguy says: Apr 25, 2010 11:32 AM

    So how in hell do you de-assify an asshole? You don’t. You can take a turd out of the bowl, polish it up, spray it with perfume, but it’s still a turd.

  67. DeBo7130 says: Apr 25, 2010 11:41 AM

    -cutting edge says:
    April 25, 2010 9:31 AM
    Here’s your daily dose… Here we go again.
    How about some real FOOTBALL news!?
    Not like anything significant just happened (Draft)-
    K. Dude.
    There are plenty of threads about the draft… click on one of those and comment… why click on this one and decry the lack of significant football coverage involved in it…
    no, this thread is (part of) the civic duty of this website… exploiting a hot-button sports-related issue for the sake of gaining attention, and generating hits. Raping a rape story… how American. This site, this story, everyone involved in it – from Ben, to the Steelers, to the media, to the fans – should all be ashamed of themselves. We’re all animals, devouring life… We’re all voyeurs. All in need of a look in the mirror. Why is any of this important to any of us? Are we all just as equally outraged, or just as callously numb, or just as insensitive to every less notable rape-case?
    Or, is it because an idol of ours has shown to be (by all accounts) a bad human being? Does it make the rest of us question our worship of idols (false gods)?
    Or, do all of us have what it takes to put yourselves in the shoes of the victim, her family too even… and their feeling of powerlessness. Her rape, their rape is continual, it’s ongoing… and we’re all part of it.
    My hope here,
    Big Ben
    The Steelers
    The NFL
    The GA police
    The fans
    The media
    This site
    ALL get what is coming to them. That giant sphere, where all beginnings meet all endings, known as Karma… real punishment, for all, not just a 6 game suspension.
    Sleep well American parasites and rapists. Your country depends on it.

  68. AlDavisIsGod says: Apr 25, 2010 11:43 AM

    You’re the only uncontained turd, Florio.

  69. Tony Snow says: Apr 25, 2010 11:44 AM

    Why do Non-Steeler fans keeping posting on Steeler articles!?!? Are your teams that boring and pathetic!? Imagine if the whole Steeler nation were to do the same thing, en masse!? We can make up names and slurs, too. We know it’s a recession and the Ben story is a stimulus package for the media. All this cyber-bullying is gonna get outta control… And for what!? Jealousy… Of the Steelers! Wow!

  70. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 25, 2010 11:54 AM

    “Dave3258 says:
    April 25, 2010 11:32 AM
    At the end of the day , all you folks that are preparing the cross to put Ben Roethlisbergers crucified body on”
    His body wouldn’t be crucified until it was on the cross. That’s like saying “Preparing a gun to shoot his bullet ridden body.”

  71. BenInAZ says: Apr 25, 2010 11:55 AM

    Dave3258 says: “when hes throwing for 300 yards and a couple touchdowns in November and December”
    Ah-hahahahaha…..who’s he throwing these touchdowns to? Webster? ahahahahahaha…..

  72. Dogsweat says: Apr 25, 2010 11:56 AM

    Well Well.
    It appears the Pittsburgh Steelers draft the real piss heads.
    I noticed this board always points to the Raiders as the team of criminals.
    I suggest you do a history of the Pittsburgh Steelers and you find more deviant assholes than the Raiders.
    Of course this is hidden because of the Looneys.
    Nice franchise you got. Big Ben is the biggest shit face in the league.
    If Big Ben brought his attitude of superiority into an Oakland Resturant, he would vanish.
    So enough of the Big Ben to Oakland talk.
    Pittsburgh is the criminal haven.

  73. Rasta says: Apr 25, 2010 12:15 PM

    All young women should carry guns when Roethlisberger is around. When he whips his out, ladies whip yours out and shoot his ass.

  74. Tony Snow says: Apr 25, 2010 12:26 PM

    @Child please… You’re guilty of what you’re accusing Ben of, if not worse..because we have proof. Harassing ladies, although not sexually…harassment, is harassment. Trynna use you’re weak @as psychology on ladies who defend Ben. You loser!
    At purpleguy…worry about De-losing a loser as in the Viqueens! You would never understand a champion and their thinking!
    @Dogsweat ….. You sound like a guy of high character!? LOL! Go jump off the bay bridge! Ain’t nobody here to impress you!

  75. d.b.cooper says: Apr 25, 2010 12:30 PM

    The Steelers are the greatest franchise in NFL history.
    SIX Super Bowls, count ‘em! #7 will happen soon enough.
    Nothing else before the Super Bowl happened matters.
    Lots of jealous and frustrated fans here….my guess is mainly Brownie, Bungles and Vi-Queen fans, ZERO SBs among them.

  76. StevieMo says: Apr 25, 2010 12:39 PM

    Man, I would love to see this goofball on Tool Academy 4 next year.

  77. robert ethan says: Apr 25, 2010 12:41 PM

    One of the bodygaurds has worked for him since 2005 according to Pennsylvania State PD. When did the gun incident occur? He may have had others working for him even prior to Joyner. Dosen’t compute.

  78. danlinker says: Apr 25, 2010 12:41 PM

    And by the way, so much for the “Ben is going to AZ” BS.
    Ben is with the perfect team for him right now. Nobody else wants him, because he’s not as good a qb as some people think. If he was, someone (despite all this bs) would have traded for him. When even the Raiders passed on him, I knew he was staying put. That is NOT a knock on the Raiders, it’s just that they will usually take a talented player in spite of off the field issues. Ben’s not that talented.

  79. robert ethan says: Apr 25, 2010 12:53 PM

    The guy with the gun thought that misshapen object on the top of Roethlisberger’s shoulders was some kind of alien spore attaching itself to his body. He was just trying to save Ben.

  80. AllThat says: Apr 25, 2010 12:57 PM

    @Tony Snow says:
    April 25, 2010 11:44 AM
    Why do Non-Steeler fans keeping posting on Steeler articles!?!? Are your teams that boring and pathetic!? Imagine if the whole Steeler nation were to do the same thing, en masse!? We can make up names and slurs, too. We know it’s a recession and the Ben story is a stimulus package for the media. All this cyber-bullying is gonna get outta control… And for what!? Jealousy… Of the Steelers! Wow!
    Please Tony, we do it to get posts like this from you and because your QB is a total tool. This will not go away. We post on all the other stories as well. Maybe you should read them once in a while yourself and give a reply. You will see our names there dumbass. We don’t come here just for the BR assault situations.

  81. jlm37 says: Apr 25, 2010 12:57 PM

    I have to laugh at the Browns and Ravens fans here trying to claim the moral high ground. Go look up Jim Brown’s criminal record, for example, then STFU.

  82. trickbunny says: Apr 25, 2010 1:01 PM

    I love how these moron Steeler fans equate people hating Ben Rapistberger because he’s a RAPIST with being “jealous” of the Steelers success (in the past).
    Psychology 101: If someone is putting you, or someone/something you like, just make the claim that they’re doing it out of “jealousy”. Yeah, that’ll make YOU feel better.
    EPIC FAIL.
    No one is jealous of a garbage POS team that didn’t make the playoffs and lost to a bunch of bottom-rung teams. Everyone *does* hate Rapistberger. And none of it has enything to do with jealousy. Maybe something more along the lines of watching Steeler fans gloat and act like juvenile a-holes for years- and they’re now getting what they *used* to dish out (and are doing a very poor job of taking it, btw).
    If you want to play the “jealousy card”, then we could say something like “The Browns have won NINE championships and Steeler fans are JEALOUS they only have six!”
    Yeah- ridiculous, huh? We Browns fans *know* you are not jealous of something that happened 45-50 years ago, even if it means the lowly Browns have- over their history- won more professional football championships than the Steelers (some people get hung up on thinking it was somehow a different game once people started calling it the “Super Bowl”). By the same token, Browns fans are not jealous of something that happened 2, 3, 5 years ago. That’s all in the rear view mirror now and, going by last year, there’s nothing to be jealous anymore ’cause the Steelers are *clearly* on their way dooowwwnnn.
    So you can knock it off with the “Wah! people are putting down Ben ’cause they’re jealous of the Steelers!” bullshit. People are putting down ben because he behaves like a douchebag and is a RAPIST. Get used to it.

  83. Taye500 says: Apr 25, 2010 1:02 PM

    The guy is a serial rapist! He got away with it because he is a white guy. Imagine this happening to TO or Michael Vick twice within 2 years? White America would have convicted them by now. I will be at a Steelers game when he returns and i will exercise my freedom of speech at the stadium very close to steelers bench.

  84. CT Stiller says: Apr 25, 2010 1:03 PM

    War_Paint says:
    “If I was a Steeler fan I’d be wanting this to go away. If it carries on much longer the entire legacy of the organization will be overshadowed and tainted by this loser.”
    Why? Do you really think the average Steelers fan gives a crap what fans of other teams think?
    Have you read the comments on here? 99% of the bashers can’t even form a coherent sentence let alone spell. I especially love the “I believe Ben raped someone therefore the last two Supper Bowls don’t count” crowd. LOL! I say keep it coming.

  85. Howyadoin says: Apr 25, 2010 1:03 PM

    I have been a fan of the Steelers for 40+ years, and I have to say I will not support this organization until this man is removed from the team, and I am honestly debating with myself whether I should support the NFL while this man is allowed to remain a part of it.
    This stuff has to stop. It is not just this A-hole, but the environment that allows wife beating, murder.drug dealing/using and just general crap behavior that is seemingly applauded in this sport.
    This gem of a human being should be locked away, not for 6 games, but from society.

  86. lin1945 says: Apr 25, 2010 1:04 PM

    All these stories coming out now just validate that the Steelers management and the Rooney family have enabled Ben R to act as he does, entitled, super jerk, along with the claims of sexual assaults against women. When will it stop? I can assure you that if he had been black it would have stopped a few years ago. I am white but can see the disparity in handling conduct issues. The Commissioner began in the right direction but giving Ben R a break, if he diligently does was is demanded, is a crock. I think he should have been out the year or until the Nevada law suit is over. Wake up, world. He is on a spiral down and not quite at the very bottom because no one allows him to hit bottom. When that happens Ben might take all of this into honest review. It began at home with his father’s input, moved to the high school coaches and then college coaches . . . he was so good at what he did on the field that they allowed him bad manners off the field. He went high in the draft and the routine did not end. The Rooneys’, the coaches and even the fans allowed, until now, Ben R to be Bad Ben. Then he hires law enforcement off-duty bodyguards that allowed him to continue and move to more ciminal activity. Ben and his bodyguards should all be accountable. The law enforcement off icers are a disgrace to their day jobs and Ben has made them a disgrace to the public for lying and condoning things such as sexual assault. We need to protect our young women from the likes of Ben R. Period.

  87. Taye500 says: Apr 25, 2010 1:05 PM

    Thanks goodness for the smart Boyfriend, the girl would have become another Roethlisberger’s sexual assault victim. Boyfriend, next time squeeze the trigger! so there would not be another sexual victim.

  88. .RebaTe says: Apr 25, 2010 1:19 PM

    # TFBuckFutter says: April 25, 2010 11:54 AM
    hey tdickwad… does this mean you’ve officially ditched your old name “BuckFigBen” after getting called out as a coward?
    Sure looks like it…

  89. UckTheFeagles says: Apr 25, 2010 1:23 PM

    Does this really surprise anyone? Its only a matter of time until this happens again. Sooner or later a father, husband, or boyfriend is going to lose it on this idiot. At this point the steelers should just cut him and move on.

  90. .RebaTe says: Apr 25, 2010 1:24 PM

    Tony Snow says: April 25, 2010 11:44 AM
    “Why do Non-Steeler fans keeping posting on Steeler articles!?!? Are your teams that boring and pathetic!?”
    Yes.
    The vast majority of the hater trolls are from Cleveland, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Seattle, Dallas, Philly….
    You get the idea.
    This isn’t about hating Ben – it never was,
    It’s about hating the Steelers.
    Ben just made it convenient.

  91. Ravenmaniac says: Apr 25, 2010 1:27 PM

    Tony Snow says…Why do Non-Steeler fans keeping posting on Steeler articles!?!? Are your teams that boring and pathetic!? Imagine if the whole Steeler nation were to do the same thing, en masse!? We can make up names and slurs, too. We know it’s a recession and the Ben story is a stimulus package for the media. All this cyber-bullying is gonna get outta control… And for what!? Jealousy… Of the Steelers! Wow!
    ______________________________
    Too funny!!!!! Have you ever seen a post about Ray Lewis???? It ends up being nothing but steeler fans coming up with intelligent things like calling Ray a murderer…and everything else…
    So please Tony you already do make up not so funny names and slurs…
    Trust me…NO ONE is jealous of the steelers!!!

  92. wyoff says: Apr 25, 2010 1:28 PM

    –dogma1 says:
    April 25, 2010 9:46 AM
    Big Ben is sick, he needs help. Steelers Super Bowl wins are now tainted–
    This is the essence of most people’s interest in the story- jealousy. You desperately want something to point to to somehow denigrate the accomplishments of a team that is better than your team.

  93. Ravenmaniac says: Apr 25, 2010 1:30 PM

    I hope I do not see comments from Ravens fans on here about the steelers going 0 – 4 without ben. I would have much rather have ben playing in game 4 against us than Byron. Without Sandubio….Byron worries me…ben does not!

  94. mobey says: Apr 25, 2010 1:52 PM

    Spacemonkey says:
    April 25, 2010 11:10 AM
    Something about a report with the majority of supplied information coming from “sources requesting anonymity” makes my stomach turn.
    I understand the whole “free speech” thing, and people have to protect their jobs and all – but if you don’t have to be held accountable for what you say, then you’re just going to make up whatever crap you want to.
    Under conditions of anonymity, I could claim whatever I wanted. Like that night with Ben, the donkey and the circus midgets; or maybe Najeh Davenport and the “Butterfinger in the swimming pool” incident.
    Blabbing to a reporter and not being accountable for your words, well, sucks and is a waste of time for people looking for legitimate, credible information and facts…
    Come on folks! Grow some testicles or STFU!
    *****************************************
    HA HA HA HA HA.
    Poor Pissburgh fan complaining about accountability of people talking???
    The same asshole Pissburgh fans don’t understand why Rapesburger should be held accountable for anything.
    Cheaters once, cheaters always.

  95. OldDogEyes says: Apr 25, 2010 1:55 PM

    fmax4 says:
    Damn Flo! Put the crack pipe down! Stop beating this dead horse!
    ==================================
    If it is a dead story, then why is ESPN running an expose on it?
    Here’s my prediction: If Ben is doing this stuff now, he has probably always taken advantage of women.
    I wonder how many incidents of “date rape” happened when he was in college…?
    So my prediction is that sooner or later, we’ll hear how this shit was happening back in College.
    Think that I am wrong?

  96. Bens Attorney says: Apr 25, 2010 1:56 PM

    I started reading this and seen Joey Porter and Davenport and Logan cited as sources, That is all I needed to see. They are no longer there and I dont think any of them are model citizens to say the least.
    Why is Kelly Naqi hammering on this, is she obsessed now or is it that people are sick of the onesided BS that thier network has been spewing for months that the ratings have dropped.
    Ben was not charged with anything, IF the blind eyed public want to believe a bunch of drunken sorority girls, when the DA even didnt. Then so be it, it does not change the fact that there was no rape and these girls are lying, if anyone would have taken the time to read the full police report then they would know this not the one-sided versison that the media portrays,
    Now thanks to Calvin Dunlap and his unrentlessness to get Ben , the truth will come out, and I have a feeling Dunlap and the rest of the haters are not going to like what they hear, The reason her parents wanted this to go away wansnt to protect her identity , it was they know that she was lying and wanted to save her the public scrutitny that Ben is now going through, She also told the police she didnt file a report, there has to be a reason for that,, probably because her Attorney knew this wasnt true and she would be the one to get in trouble, not her friends that pushed this,
    yes I think this girl is a victim , of rape, NO but of her friends and thier evil plan , that Ihave a feeling is about to backfire on them all…The word is gettting out as are faces and names…This could get a whole lot more interesting…

  97. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Apr 25, 2010 1:57 PM

    The funniest part about all this is that the Rooney family thinks they can just ignore public opinion and the whole thing will just blow over. The arrogance of that is stunning. Steeler fans will now suffer teasing and harassment vastly worse than any other NFL fan has ever endured. It’s obviously bothering them already as you can tell by comments here. Well, get used to it Steeler fans, cuz you’ll be hearing this stuff for the next 40-50 yrs.
    To put it in clear perspective: how long ago did those Eagles fans throw snowballs at Santa? And remember, that was just a snowball fight.
    That “she said no” chant is just the beginning. Steeler fans are going to be hearing things like that the rest of their lives. Just imagine it steeler fans: you can never talk football with non-steeler fans again without being reminded that the entire world thinks your team is lower than pond scum for keeping a known RAPIST. But do keep blindly defending your beloved Rapistberger. It just proves that you losers deserve every bit of scorn and ridicule that is inevitably headed your way.

  98. PackManFanEver says: Apr 25, 2010 1:59 PM

    Most of these guys are “creeps”. About 75% of athletes hook up with random ass. Big Ben just got caught. Everybody needs to get off their high horse and come back down to reality. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but most likely your favorite athlete has partaken in similar behavior.
    Back in the day, Favre and Chewy had “rooms” in the bars they would party at for this reason alone. I am neither rich or famous, but even i have hooked up with randoms at bars. There is a certain rush to it. The manner in which Ben did it is questionable because it was “he said, she said”, and there is no way i condone his behavior towards the general public. But there seems to be jealousy towards him. Most people would love to be rich and have woman sweating their nuts.
    FYI… I have never really liked Big Ben because he always seemed like the typical dumb jock.

  99. mobey says: Apr 25, 2010 2:04 PM

    Nothing worse than holier than thou fans and team now trying to tell the world it’s everyone else’s problem.
    Rooneys are classless – the worst kind of classless – protecting a rapist while telling others how they’re trying to help.
    And the fans are a pathetic joke.

  100. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 25, 2010 2:04 PM

    “CT Stiller says:
    April 25, 2010 1:03 PM
    Why? Do you really think the average Steelers fan gives a crap what fans of other teams think?”
    CLEARLY you guys don’t care. Which is why you come on here obsessively defending a serial rapist.
    “.RebaTe says:
    April 25, 2010 1:19 PM
    # TFBuckFutter says: April 25, 2010 11:54 AM
    hey tdickwad… does this mean you’ve officially ditched your old name “BuckFigBen” after getting called out as a coward?
    Sure looks like it…”
    This has been the only nickname I have had since the original PFT site. Good detective work there, though, Lou.

  101. mobey says: Apr 25, 2010 2:08 PM

    I’m sure low life Rooneys are busy paying off other rape victims who have come forward but not to the press.
    As long as he can toss the rock, so what if he rapes a few underage girls?
    Must make Pissburgh fans proud.

  102. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: Apr 25, 2010 2:10 PM

    Why would anyone be “jealous” of Steeler fans? That’s like being jealous of a former child celebrity who hit hard times, started smoking crack, and ended up molesting kids. Keep telling yourselves that, though. You might actually believe it some day, Steeler fans. In the meantime, hope y’all are enjoying your new status as the biggest easiest joke in the NFL.

  103. timmyb311 says: Apr 25, 2010 2:15 PM

    i am a lifelong steeler fan who has lived in the cleveland area all my life (my dad is from pittsburgh which is why i was raised a steeler fan). however, because of douche bag ben i am seriously considering turning in my steelers badge for a browns badge. i am a fan of everything else cleveland sports (indians and cavs) so why not the browns now too. this douche bag has made me feel ashamed to call myself a steelers fan. he has single handedly tarnished everything the steelers have stood for over the course of their existence and im not sure i can root for them anymore. i watched the entire draft this weekend and at every pick i was praying to god that Roger would announce that a trade for ben had been made. the fact that the rooneys kept this douche bag has me losing all respect for them as well. no one is above steeler nation. especially rapeistberger. i would rather go 5-11 with dennis dixon than 12-4 with a rapist as our qb

  104. wyoff says: Apr 25, 2010 2:30 PM

    Good post, PackMan

  105. wyoff says: Apr 25, 2010 2:37 PM

    –ECS – Brougham Boys 74 says:
    April 25, 2010 1:57 PM
    Just imagine it steeler fans: you can never talk football with non-steeler fans again without being reminded that the entire world thinks your team is lower than pond scum for keeping a known RAPIST.–
    That’s the beauty of it, ECS. It’ll be a fool-proof idiot detector. The second that an idiot blathers that garbage, we’ll know that they’re not worth talking to about anything. Anyone stupid enough to think that unsubstantiated allegations = known rapist is too stupid to waste your time with.

  106. DeBo7130 says: Apr 25, 2010 2:40 PM

    This is America! Lighten up! Drink a beer! More football!
    Sheep.
    You all actively contribute to the death of us all by contributing nothing at all.
    Keep watching your bloodsport, drinking your beer, defending your idols, crucifying your daughters, loving money and pride like it’s all there is.
    Sheep.
    All of you make me weep for humanity.
    Now, herd along to the next thread while sitting in your office chairs, and then herd on to the drive-thru window on the drive home from work, and feed that slow-death happy-meal to your (probably thoroughly neglected) rug-rat future clones-of-yourself, and grab a beer from the fridge. Turn on the TV. Repeat the process. Repeat the process. Repeat the process.
    There’s no hope for any of you.
    (Cues John Mellencamp “This is ourrrrr counnntttrrrryyy”)

  107. Markle says: Apr 25, 2010 2:55 PM

    Solid read.
    http://www.heraldstandard.com/news_detail/article/1636/2010/april/23/casting-stones-at-roethlisberger-is-becoming-daily-ritual-in-pittsurgh.html

  108. CKL says: Apr 25, 2010 3:01 PM

    Look I don’t now nor have I ever thought he raped anyone. And I am a Pats fan so I don’t have any reason to care one way or the other rivalry wise. I do think he is doing something unwanted to these girls at times though and either treats them poorly afterwards and/or is too rough during. I wonder if he purposely chooses women who are inebriated for the very reason that anything they say is not credible? Plenty of celebs hook up with different women all the time and nothing untoward is ever accused.
    A lot of people have blamed this girl for all the blatant flirting she did. Unless she flat out said to him “let’s go somewhere private and screw”, he shouldn’t even be wondering about having any implied or open consent for an actual sexual act. Certainly I wouldn’t have worn a pin or a shirt or whatever saying anything close to what she had (among other things), but bars are places people go to drink, meet people/socialize and hookup or at least one of those three. There will be flirting. If you can’t banter with people of the opposite sex without believing all of them should and do actually want to sleep with you and should/will act on it, you shouldn’t be in a COLLEGE bar especially. All I blame her for is getting too drunk to handle herself properly. Her drinking is her own fault.
    As for BR, the guy is a HIGH PROFILE PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE who loves to go around to bars drinking with his posse and has for years and we are to believe he and his entourage do not know how to handle FLIRTATIOUS GROUPIES yet??? Really???? I guess a good start would be to..oh I don’t know…NOT INVITE A BUNCH OF COLLEGE AGE GIRLS WHO MIGHT BE GROUPIES INTO SOME MAKESHIFT VIP LOUNGE WITHOUT ANY OTHER GUYS BESIDES THE ENTOURAGE PRESENT SO IT IS A FREAKING DEFACTO HAREM perhaps???? And if this girl was all over BR and he wasn’t enjoying it…he has a posse of bodyguards to gently remove her from his presence. Why didn’t they? Just a thought.
    I actually think the Steelers fans are good fans and I have been to Heinz for games and never gotten treated badly. (Granted I didn’t tempt fate by wearing other team colors :D…but still.) But this issue has made me see a side of Steelers fans I didn’t want to see. A side that rips other fanbases and ignores some valid points those fans make about the turdlike behavior of one of the Steelers stars. A side that gets all defensive and points to trophies as a jealously factor or justification for a guy’s actions. Sure all fanbases have these people but I thought there wasn’t as big of a contingent of that in Steeler Nation as there has proven to be.

  109. Bens Attorney says: Apr 25, 2010 3:17 PM

    ECS – Brougham Boys 74
    We will quit defending him when we seen some proof that he actually did do these things. The only thing this proved that yes, he is a man, and yes he had a hook-up, but it was not proven to be a rape. You left out the key part , he was not charged and they did not have enough to charge him. That is the key that most people look at.
    If people want to make fools of themselves with thier stupid little chants, then so be it. They are the ones that will look foolish.
    The truth always comes out. It did with Kobe and it did with The Duke Lacrosse Team, and it will in GA.

  110. MasterShake says: Apr 25, 2010 3:22 PM

    I guess someone putting a gun to his head looks like a foreshawdow doesn’t it? To bad this ignoramous doesn’t get it.
    Our dog used to hump grandma’s leg everytime she came over. We had a choice, fix the dog or put it down.
    I miss grandma.

  111. virtueandvice says: Apr 25, 2010 3:32 PM

    @ stugacz
    Best post I have ever read on this site. Well done.

  112. thepittsburghkid says: Apr 25, 2010 3:39 PM

    I think that him being a jag off in public is something everyone in Pittsburgh has heard about and may not nec. be true especially him being “demanding and condescending”. I sat a few tables away from him before and he was as normal as he could be. He wouldn’t sign autographs because he said he was “eating with friends”. however he did sign for all the kids that were there without being asked by their parents. He gave out 5 I think of the kids that were around him and any kids that walked up to him. I think all the stories are about Jeff Reed. Reed is a TOTAL asshole is public.

  113. pokerpro7s says: Apr 25, 2010 3:53 PM

    Who cares? Can he play? Yeah, he can play. Put him on the field. He’s not a politician or a preacher, he’s a freakin’ football player!

  114. FoozieGrooler says: Apr 25, 2010 4:03 PM

    # AllThat says: April 25, 2010 12:57 PM
    “We don’t come here just for the BR assault situations.”
    You sure don’t. After a few weeks of continuous beat-downs at the hands of Deb, you’ve sunken to trying to drown her out with sexual innuendo & schoolyard insults in an effort to make yourself look tough.
    It ain’t working.
    Ironically, you’re bordering dangerously close to being a sexual predator, the very thing you claim to despise so much.

  115. Bens Attorney says: Apr 25, 2010 4:13 PM

    @Markle, thank you for the link, I doubt anyone on here that has thier mind made up will read it but I did, and it said all along what I have been saying , this was fueled by her friends.
    This guy pointed it out. IF the media would let this go, then it would die down, But lies and speculation sell papers, and the truth doesnt. But I especially like this part he pointed out about one of her friends, that I have said all along was the ringleader of this.
    One source close to the investigation tells me that the accuser’s friend called Roethlisberger a rapist well before the alleged incident occurred, referring to the sexual assault allegations the athlete faced in Nevada. I was told that this is why her friend had been kicked out of the VIP room. Later, this same girl would drive the story that Roethlisberger raped her friend.
    This persons name is Aleshia Scholten that he is talking about . But in her statement she did not know why she was removed from the back area. Like I said more and more of this will come out. And then what will you haters have to complain about.

  116. Deb says: Apr 25, 2010 4:22 PM

    Since all of this has been widely reported, none of it is news. The only news here is your third-grade swipe at Joey Porter. Then again, Mike Florio taking a third-grade swipe–complete with bathroom humor–isn’t really news either. You may not like him, but Porter was highly respected in the Steelers locker room. And since his Dolphins teammates elected him a captain, he must have been respected there, too.
    I know this is flying over your head (what law school did you attend?) but being a TOTAL jackass to fans does not a rapist make. If it did, virtually every pro athlete and celebrity in the world–including the women–would be rapists. Trust me, I’ve met several pro athletes and celebrities. Most were jackasses.
    Ben obviously has issues, and I hope this is a wakeup call to work through them. Andrea McNulty and the woman in Georgia obviously have issues as well. But with a media corps of enablers helping them along, I doubt they’ll learn a thing.

  117. Deb says: Apr 25, 2010 4:44 PM

    @Bens Attorney …
    Many thanks for that informative post. It fills in several blanks.
    BTW, ECS – Brougham Boys 74 is a very bitter Seahawks fan, so that’s all any of us needs to know there.

  118. Bens Attorney says: Apr 25, 2010 5:37 PM

    Thanks Deb, that explains it all.
    I thought it needed to be put out there, I knew there was more to this girl, and it makes me feel sorry for the other girl, from what I have been gathering her friends were the reason this went on.
    And I read what you said about there not being sex, I have had the same thoughts, that something may have happened but I dont think it was actual sex, there would have been DNA, But I think whatever happened was consensual.

  119. CrazyWolfe says: Apr 25, 2010 5:41 PM

    Turd in a closed hamper…hahahahaha. That just sums up Worthlessberger completely.

  120. AllThat says: Apr 25, 2010 5:42 PM

    @FoozieGrooler says:
    April 25, 2010 4:03 PM
    # AllThat says: April 25, 2010 12:57 PM
    “We don’t come here just for the BR assault situations.”
    You sure don’t. After a few weeks of continuous beat-downs at the hands of Deb, you’ve sunken to trying to drown her out with sexual innuendo & schoolyard insults in an effort to make yourself look tough.
    It ain’t working.
    Ironically, you’re bordering dangerously close to being a sexual predator, the very thing you claim to despise so much.
    You sir are a stupid dumb prick. You continue to defend someone who obviously has issues. Claiming that I am a sexual predator only tells me one thing. You will never change your opinion of a man who is doing stupid shit. I almost said he was ill, but maybe that will change after his meetings with the behavior analysts.
    Stay Classy Foozie. You are coming close to being the predator yourself.
    And BTW what beat downs are you talking about? Deb hasn’t replied to one of my posts. Only you and Holeinone09.
    None of your fans on this site that still defend this scum have any credibility at all.
    It shows with all the other posts from everyone else. Read them and weep Foozie.

  121. CrazyWolfe says: Apr 25, 2010 5:43 PM

    Deb says:
    April 25, 2010 4:44 PM
    @Bens Attorney …
    Many thanks for that informative post. It fills in several blanks.
    BTW, ECS – Brougham Boys 74 is a very bitter Seahawks fan, so that’s all any of us needs to know there
    ————————————–
    Geez, are Putzburgh Stealer fans stilll crying over how they won SBLX? That was over 4 years ago, get over it. Don’t look a gift horse (or Super Bowl) in the mouth. Seahawk fans are past it. You should be too.

  122. TheBaySay says: Apr 25, 2010 5:45 PM

    Is that a gun you have against my head or are you just happy to see me? If the guy had pulled the trigger he could have just said he was a jackass, had some issues, and made an error in judgement. I’m sure the whole thing would’ve blown over.

  123. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 25, 2010 5:59 PM

    “Bens Attorney says:
    April 25, 2010 5:37 PM
    And I read what you said about there not being sex, I have had the same thoughts, that something may have happened but I dont think it was actual sex, there would have been DNA, But I think whatever happened was consensual.”
    Let’s see….there was sexual contact (no one with half a brain would deny that)…..there was a black out drunk girl….being black out drunk renders one unable to consent….sexual contact minus consent equals sexual assault….so it’s really not that complicated a matter.
    And as for the specific contact….bruising and blood on her genitals would indicate, to me anyway, a moron jamming and prodding away with his hands and fingers before she fell on her head, rendering the sex he was “preparing” her for unobtainable.
    But of course, I’m not a Steelers fan, so I’m just a jealous observer and that isn’t possibly how things happened.

  124. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 25, 2010 6:00 PM

    Which always would explain why she wasn’t sure if the abuse her genital area was from actual intercourse, or just a really rough third-basing.
    Especially if you’re drunk.

  125. wyoff says: Apr 25, 2010 6:01 PM

    DeBo7130-
    That’s some really deep stuff there. You must be right near the top of your community college philosophy class. Keep up the good work!

  126. wyoff says: Apr 25, 2010 6:36 PM

    —Seahawk fans are past it.—
    That’s the joke of the century.

  127. .RebaTe says: Apr 25, 2010 6:40 PM

    AllThat says: April 25, 2010 5:42 PM
    “None of your fans on this site that still defend this scum have any credibility at all.”
    There’s nothing to defend.
    He didn’t do anything illegal.
    The law & The DA said so.
    Shit… even SHE said so.
    It just pisses you off because it worked out the way it did, so you make up these schoolyard taunts and allegations.
    You look like a spoiled little cunt.

  128. .RebaTe says: Apr 25, 2010 6:42 PM

    # TFBuckFutter says: April 25, 2010 6:00 PM
    Hey dickwad (formerly BuckFigBen)… pick a name and stick with it.

  129. AllThat says: Apr 25, 2010 6:49 PM

    The joke of the century is your QB asshole.
    wyoff is a predator.

  130. wyoff says: Apr 25, 2010 7:03 PM

    AllThat is a mental midget.

  131. .RebaTe says: Apr 25, 2010 7:09 PM

    AllThat says: April 25, 2010 6:49 PM
    “The joke of the century is your QB asshole.”
    heh heh
    Your pain is our joy, asshole
    Please don’t ever stop squirming in pain.
    And more importantly, don’t ever stop putting it on display for our amusement.

  132. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 25, 2010 7:09 PM

    “.RebaTe says:
    April 25, 2010 6:42 PM
    # TFBuckFutter says: April 25, 2010 6:00 PM
    Hey dickwad (formerly BuckFigBen)… pick a name and stick with it.”
    As I’ve mentioned before, I did that about 2 years ago.

  133. Deb says: Apr 25, 2010 7:19 PM

    CrazyWolfe says:
    Seahawk fans are past it.
    ———————————————-
    I was giving her a head’s up on one guy not an entire fanbase. Apparently you haven’t been reading ECS Brougham Boys 74′s posts on the subject. Obviously he’s not past it.
    Must you always post without first checking your facts? It’s tiresome.
    As for me, I was over it the minute the confetti started dropping LOL

  134. Deb says: Apr 25, 2010 7:30 PM

    @TFBuckFutter …
    I’ve never denied something happened–only that it wasn’t what she said happened. And I’ll agree she probably doesn’t know what happened. Now who’s fault is that? Don’t tell me it was the person buying. I’m all about personal responsibility remember? Unless he sat on her, yanked her head back, and poured it down her throat, that would be her fault for choosing to get blotto.
    Now why would he think it was okay to mess around with her in the bathroom? Again, because–according to the DA and witness statements–she chased him from club to club behaving provocatively toward him, they were engaged in MUTUAL sexual conduct the whole time they were at that club, and she told him in no uncertain terms that she was “down to f–k.”
    So you think the hand action was preparatory to an attempt at intercourse? Then why didn’t intercourse occur? Maybe because she said no. So as she said in her statement, he just left.
    Aw, but that scenario–while it fits the forensic facts and her statement–doesn’t fit your agenda does it?

  135. CT Stiller says: Apr 25, 2010 8:26 PM

    Ravenmaniac says:
    “Trust me…NO ONE is jealous of the steelers!!!”
    LOL! Now you’ve actually said something funny!

  136. CT Stiller says: Apr 25, 2010 8:43 PM

    ECS – Brougham Boys 74 says:
    “Steeler fans will now suffer teasing and harassment vastly worse than any other NFL fan has ever endured. It’s obviously bothering them already as you can tell by comments here. Well, get used to it Steeler fans, cuz you’ll be hearing this stuff for the next 40-50 yrs.”
    LOL! Yes, I welcome the “teasing and harassment” from you idiots. You can even take a swing at me, as long as you know what the potential consequences are for your own safety as a result of doing so.
    Grow up you idiot. It’s a sport. If you’re going to do stupid crap like that expect to have everyone look at your for what you are — a complete loser.

  137. Spacemonkey says: Apr 25, 2010 9:07 PM

    mobey says (without a freaking CLUE):
    “HA HA HA HA HA.
    Poor Pissburgh fan complaining about accountability of people talking???
    The same asshole Pissburgh fans don’t understand why Rapesburger should be held accountable for anything.
    Cheaters once, cheaters always.”
    =================================================
    You need a dunce cap that says “#epicfail” across the top, mobey. You’ve managed to completely miss the entire point of my comment – which was not for or against any team or athlete by the way – and clumsily toss me into a generalization of what you think Pittsburgh fans are. And you don’t seem to like them very much, and ignorantly assume they are all the same.
    Unfortunately for your tiny defunct little mind, my point was not about Pittsburgh, the Steelers, the Rooneys, Roethlisberger, Davenport, or anyone else for that matter.
    The original comment (that was so obviously over your head) was about people saying whatever they wanted, under the guise of “requesting anonymity” which means they have zero accountability for whatever they say. Again, I understand the point that some folks feel they will be persecuted for their words, but something tells me this is more often BS than truth when someone cannot put their name behind their words.
    And mobey, I could care less what team you root for, or what city you’re in. You have the intellectual capacity of a styrofoam cup., and I feel sorry for you. Just a little.

  138. Ravenmaniac says: Apr 25, 2010 9:21 PM

    Keep dreamin CT…….

  139. TFBuckFutter says: Apr 25, 2010 9:24 PM

    “CT Stiller says:
    April 25, 2010 8:43 PM
    LOL! Yes, I welcome the “teasing and harassment” from you idiots. You can even take a swing at me, as long as you know what the potential consequences are for your own safety as a result of doing so.”
    Pfff….and now bringing in the internet tough guy angle. Why don’t you tell him you’ll meet him anywhere to “discuss” things?
    God you’re a stereotype.

  140. mobey says: Apr 25, 2010 9:42 PM

    Spacemonkey says:
    April 25, 2010 9:07 PM
    ****************************************
    Yes, Spacemonkey, you are certainly a mental giant.
    Putting forth a lame attempt to defend a rapist by marginalizing those who speak against him…
    But then again, you could care less.
    Ever heard the term “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”?
    Pigpen now has two girls who have come forward accusing him of rape.
    I’m sure it’s all BS along with his own teammates confirming he’s a piece of shit.
    You are, and have been since cheating in the 1970′s with horse tranqs, a classless organization and fan base.
    Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

  141. mobey says: Apr 25, 2010 9:46 PM

    Deb says:
    April 25, 2010 7:30 PM
    @TFBuckFutter …
    I’ve never denied something happened–only that it wasn’t what she said happened. And I’ll agree she probably doesn’t know what happened. Now who’s fault is that? Don’t tell me it was the person buying. I’m all about personal responsibility remember? Unless he sat on her, yanked her head back, and poured it down her throat, that would be her fault for choosing to get blotto.
    Now why would he think it was okay to mess around with her in the bathroom? Again, because–according to the DA and witness statements–she chased him from club to club behaving provocatively toward him, they were engaged in MUTUAL sexual conduct the whole time they were at that club, and she told him in no uncertain terms that she was “down to f–k.”
    So you think the hand action was preparatory to an attempt at intercourse? Then why didn’t intercourse occur? Maybe because she said no. So as she said in her statement, he just left.
    Aw, but that scenario–while it fits the forensic facts and her statement–doesn’t fit your agenda does it?
    ========================
    Question – what kind of a souless whore defends a rapist in an attempt to win a couple more football games?
    Yes, nothing happened. And nothing happened last time. And nothing will have happened next time.
    If she was drinking, she deserved it. If she was flirty she deserved it.
    Are all women in Pissburgh stupid sluts or are you unique?

  142. BigBear123 says: Apr 25, 2010 9:52 PM

    Crashed his motorcycle without a helmet on, don’t think shooting him in the head would do much good. He should have been aiming right below the waist.

  143. CT Stiller says: Apr 25, 2010 10:00 PM

    “Pfff….and now bringing in the internet tough guy angle. Why don’t you tell him you’ll meet him anywhere to “discuss” things?”
    Yes that was my angle.

  144. contract says: Apr 26, 2010 8:26 AM

    “A lot of people have blamed this girl for all the blatant flirting she did. Unless she flat out said to him “let’s go somewhere private and screw”, he shouldn’t even be wondering about having any implied or open consent for an actual sexual act.”
    CKL: The two of them were talking in the VIP area … then she was escorted to a back room where she sat and waited on a stool.
    What exactly do you think she was doing there?
    Everyone makes it sound like Ben followed her as she went to the bathroom, but that is contrary to the woman’s own testimony.
    Going to the backroom separately and leaving separately is standard procedure when you don’t want everyone to know what you are doing.

  145. Wrongo says: Apr 26, 2010 9:40 AM

    He is the classic example of a spoiled and pampered athlete. He has been catered to by his family and coaches since high school, if not earlier because of his vast athletic skills, and just not in football. He never grew up or learned how to fend for himself as there was always someone around to handle things for him.

  146. HamBurghlar says: Apr 26, 2010 9:57 AM

    @TFBuckFutter: “I’d pull a gun too if some guy was “talking” to my passed out girlfriend with his pants off in the parking lot of a bar.”
    Wow, your girlfriend sounds like a slutbag. Must not be satisfying her too well if she gets drunk and passes out in the parking lot of a bar with some other dude…

  147. palmtree says: Apr 26, 2010 10:53 AM

    BAKERSFIELD, Calif. — Authorities say NFL linebacker Joey Porter has been arrested in Bakersfield on suspicion of drunken driving and accused of assaulting an officer and resisting arrest.
    ———————–
    Pittsburgh Steelers running back Najeh Davenport was arrested and charged with three misdemeanors after an episode of baby mama drama. Davenport has to face charges of domestic violence, endangering children and unlawful restraint, and witnesses who are more than willing to say he’s guilty.
    ==================================
    wow, Florio !!! you pick some real good references to bash Ben, huh? players (both convicted) who haven’t been on the Steelers team in years !! YOU are a MORON!!!

  148. palmtree says: Apr 26, 2010 11:01 AM

    Randy Moss
    This star wide receiver with the Minnesota Vikings was arrested in 2002 after he allegedly drove over an officer who attempted to give him a ticket. He was booked on charges of assault with a deadly weapon.
    ====================
    Ray Lewis
    This Baltimore Ravens linebacker was arrested and charged with murder in 2000 following the stabbing of 2 men at an Atlanta nightclub. Lewis later pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice charges and served 12 months of probation.
    =============================
    Michael Vick
    Vick is probably the first NFL player that pops in people’s minds when it comes to a police record, as his case drummed up considerable media interest. Arrested in 2007 after a Virginia grand jury indicted the NFL star for promoting dog fighting, torturing and killing animals, Vick was sentenced and convicted to 23 months in prison following a guilty plea in 2007.
    ==========================
    Wow, Ben is SOOOO Bad for being in a bar (GASP!!) and drinking (double GASP!!) and trying to get a little action with a girl that’s been hanging on him (advertising that she’s ‘down to f….’) (TRIPLE , QUADRUPLE GASP!!!) …He should Just be locked up and put on a deserted island for life !! Florio…find something else to try and shock people with , ok ???

  149. CT Stiller says: Apr 26, 2010 2:03 PM

    The most telling aspect of there being an agenda with Florio vs. The Pittsburgh Steelers is that he wrote up about 12 blog posts about Santonio Holmes’ Florida night club incident.
    Until he was traded to the Jets. At which point no more posts pertained to Holmes and the alleged assault.
    Very telling indeed. Florio, you are quickly showing a pattern here as well.

  150. bigstorm says: Apr 26, 2010 9:46 PM

    ECS…..
    Can you post the address for the Starbucks that you work at and we will mail you the $5 that you lost on SB XL so that you can move on with what little life you have.
    Last Starfighter (aka the blogger with the totally gay name aka the 40 year old virgin living in his parent’s basement aka the guy obsessed with ben’s cock – not to be confused with ECS)….
    you are a total moron. not only are you completely humorless but when you try to be serious it comes across like you put in a ton of time to make a stupid point. Star Trek starts in 5 minutes…..get going.

  151. robert ethan says: Apr 26, 2010 9:47 PM

    A jealous boyfriend put a gun to Roethlisberger’s head and pulled the trigger several times. Luckily it was empty.
    Ben’s head that is.

  152. CT Stiller says: Apr 27, 2010 7:48 AM

    robert ethan says:
    “A jealous boyfriend put a gun to Roethlisberger’s head and pulled the trigger several times. Luckily it was empty.
    Ben’s head that is.”
    Wow. That’s the joke you came up with, huh?

  153. CT Stiller says: Apr 27, 2010 7:54 AM

    OldDogEyes says:
    “If it is a dead story, then why is ESPN running an expose on it?”
    Very simple — because it makes them money.
    “Here’s my prediction: If Ben is doing this stuff now, he has probably always taken advantage of women.”
    Dude, that is the exact opposite of a prediction. A prediction would be “he’ll do this again in the future” or “women will begin to come out against him now.”
    I’m getting tired of having to fix people’s logic on here. Either get smarter or I’m no longer going to help you.

  154. Supersuckers says: Apr 27, 2010 11:20 AM

    and you know that the same things will be said about favre and his special treatment in the Minnesota locker room if they struggle as well. Bad idea to have a non-commital guy on your team.

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