Holmgren "pulled rank" to draft Colt McCoy

Tom Heckert is the general manager in Cleveland, but there’s no question who’s in charge.

Mike Holmgren says he tried to run the Browns draft over the weekend like Ron Wolf used to, with everyone contributing.  But the Big Show is clearly atop the flow chart.

When Colt McCoy was still on the board at No. 85, Holmgren jokingly told SI’s Peter King that he “pulled rank” to get the selection done.

The Browns had Kentucky defensive tackle Corey Peters and Arizona State tackle Shawn Lauvao atop their draft board, but Peters was selected at No. 83 by Atlanta.  Holmgren decided then to deviate some from Heckert’s plan. 

“Then,” Holmgren said. “the fates were telling me something.
We had to pick [McCoy]. I said to Tom, ‘Let’s pull the trigger.'”  (The Browns got Lauvao anyway later.)

Holmgren also confirmed that Jon Gruden’s recommendation of McCoy was a factor in the pick.

61 responses to “Holmgren "pulled rank" to draft Colt McCoy

  1. I’m sure it’ll be a few years till we know if this was a good pick, or not. I do like that the Browns addressed some more pressing needs first instead of forcing the issue and taking the guy at #38. Go Browns.

  2. Ha ha, meanwhile Holmgren’s on ESPN talking about how this is “Coach Mangini’s team” and he doesn’t want to get into particulars about how a player is used.
    OK, then.

  3. Color me shocked that The Big Show is making it clear there’s nobody running things in Cleveland than him. Mangini (and by extension, Heckert) are figureheads.
    It’ll be interesting to see how this goes when the season starts. I predict it won’t go well.

  4. If Holgren keeps pulling rank, this team is doomed! He sucks as a GM. Decent pro coach but not a coach.

  5. For quite some time I’ve been trying to figure out why some folks think so highly of Chucky Gruden. Seriously, what’s he accomplished? Dungy built a TB SB squad, left for the Colts and the first year he’s gone, Gruden takes a team ALREADY built to the SB. Then Gruden ran the team into the ground thereafter and since then they’ve sucked but Gruden GOT them to that level of suckiness. He never did anything with Oakland either.
    Holgren asking Gruden for his advice/observation is like Belichick asking Matt Millen for drafting advice.

  6. “Holmgren also confirmed that Jon Gruden’s recommendation of McCoy was a factor in the pick”
    REALLY? (what did Mangini think of this) well, maybe a wild guess, but i think the next coach of the Browns is Gruden.. especially since Holmgren mentioned McCoy won’t smell the field this year (so Mangini doesn’t mess him up before getting fired)

  7. This is bad news for the Cleveland Browns organization and their fans. Holmgren proved in Seattle he could not handle running a draft, his draft classes were always poor. I’m an Eagles fan and Tom Heckert has a history of running execellent drafts in Philadelphia. Holmgren has proven he cannot handle this responsibility, so he should leave that part of the job to people who are better suited to handle it.

  8. I loved what Mike said after the pick; “he’s not gonna play this year” I don’t want him to. Let him sit, hold a clipboard, and learn. I really believe that he will be a decent QB in the future, but the Browns ain’t going anywhere this year, so let him learn. They got some playmakers on D that they needed. The Browns will be ok eventually.

  9. Cue the conspiracy that Gruden is already penciled in as the Browns coach in 2011. Frankly, if Mangini doesn’t at least break even, it very well may happen.

  10. Things Holmgren has also ‘pulled the trigger’ on:
    1.) 3 sides of bacon for his veggie omelette.
    2.) An Adkins-inspired diet consisting only of Bratwurst.
    3.) ‘Double the meat’ doubled, at Jimmy John’s sandwich shop.
    4.) The New KFC double chicken filet sandwich doubled up, with 3 slices of bread surrounding them, turning it into 4 chicken breasts, and ‘a trip to the john’ later in the ‘evaluation process’.
    5.) The Old 86-er, 86 ounce steak.
    6.) A SUPER-sized, super-size at McDonald’s – a lesser known size, a garbage bag sized french fries covered in sweet and sour, washed down with 4 Diet Cokes.
    7.) His mustache.
    8.) Becoming friends with Peter King, after the ‘writer’/competitive eater wouldn’t leave his driveway 20 years ago. King later said it had little to do with football – he witnessed an enormous order of pork products purchased by Holmgren at King’s local butcher, and tailed the coach and his family home.

  11. Why even have a General Manager when the President is running the show? I’m not hiring a maid, if I am going to clean my own house.

  12. Not to mention that if the Browns get off to a slow start in 2010, you might just see Gruden coaching the Browns in 2011, or whenever the labor dispute ends.
    I absolutely love the fact that the Browns got McCoy in the 3rd round. I truly think this kid is going to be great if the really gets a chance to sit and learn this year.
    Go Browns!

  13. “Holmgren also confirmed that Jon Gruden’s recommendation of McCoy was a factor in the pick.”
    Hillary Clinton and rosie o’donnell recommended Obama.

  14. Jon Gruden would recommend my grandma if she could manage to hold the ball with one hand. He’d find the potential somehow.

  15. No surprise here. At the QB workout, Gruden really liked what he saw in McCoy. Gruden will be looking for a head coaching job next year. Gruden would love to work with McCoy. Browns fans would like to see Gruden wind up here.
    Eric Mangini knows all of this. Mangini is not an idiot, and surely knew that if he recommended drafting McCoy, he was signing his own death warrant. Mangini would have drafted the pizza delivery boy ahead of McCoy.

  16. Poor Colt! he had the WORST draft day out of any qb. 1st, he finds out that no one really wanted him, then gets drafted by the qb killers, the Browns. I love how guys say like “i am really excited about playing for the browns” Sure you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Colt is like the 5th qb that “is finally going to make them contenders”. The reality is, he will have a few sub par years getting his but kicked by the other 3 elite teams (i know, cleveland beat the steelers last time) ok, once every 10 years.

  17. I don’t know how this QB class will be graded 10 years from now, but I can’t remember a QB class with bigger names. I mean, Tebow, McCoy, and Bradford have been the posterboys for college football for the past 4 years. And Clausen seems to have a knack for getting media attention, albeit not always good attention.
    I’m sure everyone will jump down my throat and say the Marino, Elway, and Kelly draft had bigger names. Maybe in hindsight it is, but at the time they were drafted I doubt they were bigger than Tebow, McCoy, Clausen, and Bradford are now.

  18. RedsGhost says:
    April 26, 2010 12:46 PM
    For quite some time I’ve been trying to figure out why some folks think so highly of Chucky Gruden. Seriously, what’s he accomplished? Dungy built a TB SB squad, left for the Colts and the first year he’s gone, Gruden takes a team ALREADY built to the SB.
    ……………………………………………………..
    ok…
    who did he play in that Super Bowl?

  19. MH makes a small statement and people automatically start jumping to conclusions. Gruden coming in, Heckart and Mangini figureheads. Did anyone actually see his conferences in Cleveland after the draft? Doesn’t sound like it.
    I agree with one poster that said Gruden is overrated. We have a lot of Cleveland fans that seem to be hoping the Browns lose so Mangini gets fired. Get over it. He ain’t going anywhere.

  20. Holmgren pulled rank to draft Colt McCoy…..if by ‘rank’ you mean [pulled] ‘his penis through the zipper of his pants and wiped it on Tom Heckert’s sleeve after urinating on the ‘best available’ board, simultaneously saying “I’m the god-damned boss around here & they hired me to put out this dumpster-fire of a team!”
    Now that’s ‘rank.’
    Andy Reid’s doppelganger got the best QB in the draft [after all, Tebow’s best quality is that he’s a winner…….but COLT WON MORE GAMES THAN TEBOW and doesn’t possess Tebow’s turd-like qualities]
    thanks for the memories, Colt.
    Hook ‘Em!

  21. SterilizeTHenry – lay off the dope.
    You STILL hear about people being compared to Elway when coming out of college.

  22. Oakland…again, a team GRUDEN built couldn’t get past the Tampa team Dungy built. and after the SB victory that Dungy built, Grudens next two season went something like 6-10 and 5-11 and his last season before being fired he went 4-12. Yeah, he’s impressed me.

  23. I kept reading “pulled rank” as “pulled prank.” I got to the end of the article and was very confused, as Holmgren’s actions didn’t seem all that funny to me.

  24. Gruden’s mantra for the 2002 season was, “Pound the Rock!” That combined with all the great QBs he’s produced, and you’ve got an expert.

  25. The Raiders played the Bucs that year for the SB, which by the way Chucky built. So why isn’t Bill Callahan favored for any job, he took a team to the SB his first year.

  26. The “fates”? I guess “fates” meant he looked on his depth chart and saw Jake and Seneca.

  27. OK I know that Holmgren may not be the best GM, but he does know how to find and develop a quarterback. Seeing as that position was a big need for the Browns, pulling rank when he knew there wouldn’t be any better opportunities was a smart move.

  28. “For quite some time I’ve been trying to figure out why some folks think so highly of Chucky Gruden. Seriously, what’s he accomplished? Dungy built a TB SB squad, left for the Colts and the first year he’s gone, Gruden takes a team ALREADY built to the SB. Then Gruden ran the team into the ground thereafter and since then they’ve sucked but Gruden GOT them to that level of suckiness. He never did anything with Oakland either.”
    lol wut? So, Dungy builds a team with no offense that can’t get over the hump. they dump Dungy and compensate Oakland with draft picks to get Gruden. They win it all. Your post makes sense except for one thing: the team that Gruden beat in teh Super Bowl was –wait for it– Gruden’s OLD team. By your logic, Callahan took someone else’s team (Gruden’s old team) to the Super Bowl. How is that Gruden did nothing in Oakland? You’re an idiot.

  29. “Oakland…again, a team GRUDEN built couldn’t get past the Tampa team Dungy built. and after the SB victory that Dungy built, Grudens next two season went something like 6-10 and 5-11 and his last season before being fired he went 4-12. Yeah, he’s impressed me.”
    Because making the Super Bowl is a total fail. IDIOT. Do you post anywhere else with your real name? If you do, I would suggest stopping, because you’re only broadcasting your moron level to the entire planet.

  30. Too bad Holmgren didn’t “pull rank” on their two 2 nd round picks. I think Heckert accidentally took one of Mangini’s stupid pills at the beginning of round 2. If he was thinking of taking Shane Laovao over a quarterback then something is wrong.

  31. What the hell are you people talking about? Just when exactly did Al Davis step aside and let Gruden build the Raiders???

  32. P.S. We would love to have Gruden in Cleveland over Mangini and his lovely O/C : Brian Daboll

  33. I think the team that got these top 4 quarterbacks this year are very lucky indeed. Very good, sound judgement. The position is the key to any offense. Kolb sat three years and is now ready (I hope) to step in. You have to have a young QB waiting.

  34. C’mon guys, you think Cleveland hired Mike Holmgren so that he’d sit back and spectate? Geez, some of you are dumber than I thought . . . just kidding. Seriously though, you shouldn’t be surprised, most of these “in charge” football guys have massive egos (see Jones, Jerry) and a need to be at the head of the table from time to time, just so everybody knows who holds the keys to the kingdom.

  35. kurtz says:
    April 26, 2010 2:43 PM
    “Oakland…again, a team GRUDEN built couldn’t get past the Tampa team Dungy built. and after the SB victory that Dungy built, Grudens next two season went something like 6-10 and 5-11 and his last season before being fired he went 4-12. Yeah, he’s impressed me.”
    Because making the Super Bowl is a total fail. IDIOT. Do you post anywhere else with your real name? If you do, I would suggest stopping, because you’re only broadcasting your moron level to the entire planet.
    So, Chucky takes the team Dungy built, goes to the SB and plays the team that Chucky built and the team that Dungy built wins. In other words Chucky has never built, taken and won a SB. See his record with Tampa? It’s the Tmapa 2 that Dungy created that GOT Tampa toi the SB.
    Man, you are one dumbass stupid cunt.

  36. Mangini took a team whose odds of getting an offensive touchdown were the same as me winning the mega millions without playing and got them on a 4 game win streak with a top 10 running game to end the season and did it with people either he brought in or the previous regime ignored. On top of that his offensive coordinator did it with no viable starter at QB and no passing game. I’m not sure what Clevelands fans have so much of a problem with the guy for but he’s the first actual coach that team has had in awhile. Then again, weren’t the Browns the same team that ran off Butch Davis for being the only man to take the current team to the playoffs just to watch the team win 1 game under Terry Robiskie the following year? Maybe Browns fans should be banned from making front office decisions from now on. Replacing your coach once every 2 to 4 years because the fans get grumpy, could be part of the teams problems. You know, like giving up your entire draft for a QB just to find out the second string QB you had was better than the one you drafted but using the bad one anyway because the fans liked him more.

  37. redsGhost…you must be from tampa…1 of the idiots who repeat the same ole won with dungys team line…first off…gruden brought in 26 new players from dungys team..i dont recall jacquez green or reidel anthony winning nrings…dungys starting wide receivers..juravicious..mccardell……i think their replacements did well…pittman….dilger..the te..all grudens guys….and…finally….i believe the yr gruden got fired by oakland…his raiders team played dungys bucs team…final score…raiders 48…bucs 0…..think before you spit out the same ole horse bleep…

  38. mjs1289 says:
    April 26, 2010 4:06 PM
    redsGhost…you must be from tampa…1 of the idiots who repeat the same ole won with dungys team line…first off…gruden brought in 26 new players from dungys team..i dont recall jacquez green or reidel anthony winning nrings…dungys starting wide receivers..juravicious..mccardell……i think their replacements did well…pittman….dilger..the te..all grudens guys….and…finally….i believe the yr gruden got fired by oakland…his raiders team played dungys bucs team…final score…raiders 48…bucs 0…..think before you spit out the same ole horse bleep…
    Are you related to Kurtz? Just curious cause it seems like you two share the same gene pool.
    No, not from Tampa, never have liked that team and never will. So, your defense of Chucky is that a terrible Oakland team beat a bad and declining Tampa team? Man, you should’a been an attorney with logic and common sense like that!
    I simply state that Chucky IS overrated and most agree. Not saying he’s terrible afterall he did START to build playoff team, but never performed the whole cycle (drafting, building, going to and then WINNING a SB). His Oakland team that he built went twice to the SB and couldn’t win one of them. He gets fired and it took Dungy to build a team for him.
    Think before you spew some crap next time.

  39. CTifer says:
    April 26, 2010 1:45 PM
    SterilizeTHenry – lay off the dope.
    You STILL hear about people being compared to Elway when coming out of college.
    ———————————————
    That wasn’t my point at all. What the hell are you talking about? I was implying that there has never been so much talk of a QB class before they take their first NFL snap. That is going to put a lot of pressure on these kids. Think of the early round QBs taken in previous drafts…
    2009 – Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman
    2008 – Ryan, Flacco, Henne
    2007 – Russell, Quinn, Kolb
    2006 – Young, Leinart, Cutler
    As a group, this class has much, much bigger names than any of those groups, with the 2006 class being kind of close. ALL the talk before and during the draft was related to “Where are Tebow/Clausen/McCoy going to end up?” I have never seen a group of QBs so closely scrutinized before a draft.

  40. Hey RedsGhost nice to see your still carrying the flag for Tard Nation.
    “Seriously, what’s he accomplished? Dungy built a TB SB squad, left for the Colts and the first year he’s gone, Gruden takes a team ALREADY built to the SB. Then Gruden ran the team into the ground thereafter and since then they’ve sucked but Gruden GOT them to that level of suckiness. He never did anything with Oakland either”.
    Who do you think built the Oakland Raiders team he defeated in the Super Bowl?
    He did you dolt.
    I have been a lifelong Raiders fan and I told everyone that Jon Gruden built them, and in The Super Bowl, he will destroy them.
    And then he did…. and The Raiders haven’t been the same since Al Davis got cheap and didn’t want to pony up the cash to give Gruden the money he so richly deserved.
    Last I looked, since Gruden’s team played in the Super Bowl (coached by someone else) My Raiders have sucked and been a train wreck.
    I tell it like it is.
    UNACCEPTABLE.
    Al Davis… HOW’S THAT Jokemarcus Russell deal working for you?
    Sell the team or step down AL… your time has passed.
    Granted, Gruden got a good team in the Bucs, but the front office and ownership in Tampa Bay is a joke and he’s better off outta there.
    I would take him here in Cleveland in a second over this Mangini clown who is still dirtying his
    diapers.

  41. ToolofTools sounds about right or Piece of Crap- both about the same.
    The team Gruden BUILT in Oakland LOST to the team Dungy BUILT in Tampa. Can I be any clearer or do you want me to talk in monosyllables? Also, the team Gruden built in Oakland lost to NE. Both teams went on the downhill after Gruden left. Do the math.
    Now, one thing I agree with you on is Mangina. Worthless coach in NY begets an opportunity to be a worthless coach in Cleveland.

  42. McCoy has little arm and will at best be a backup QB
    With little around him, he will get killed in Cleveland.
    They need a big, talented, strong-armed kid….they got none of those

  43. hate all you want on mccoy give him time jake delhomme i think is a good person to learn from yea he had a cpl of crappy seasons but he has played the game and can give insight to mccoy walace also in retrospect they may not seem like the guys you want considering there play over the last few seasons or as a back up but they have played the game and can offer some insight and knowledge to the kid and the coaching staff will help with the rest just give the kid time

  44. Holmgren has a history with developing quarterbacks, so i think they did the right thing in drafting McCoy.

  45. Well thank god Atlanta picked Peters! I have a hard time thinking Heckert would have passed over McCoy at 85 anyway.

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