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JaMarcus headlines a dreadful quarterback class

As the Raiders inch closer to accepting reality regarding the exploding Hindenburg that is the NFL career of JaMarcus Russell, let’s consider the other options that the Raiders had at quarterback in 2007.

At the top of the draft, the Raiders had two quarterbacks from which to choose:  Russell and Brady Quinn.  To date, neither has done much of anything.

But the Raiders could have waited until round two, where the only good (to date) quarterback from the entire class was available.  With the 36th pick, the Eagles landed Kevin Kolb.

Of course, if the Raiders had waited until round two, they likely would have taken John Beck, the 40th pick who washed out of Miami after only two seasons.

Other quarterbacks picked that year were Drew Stanton, Trent Edwards, Jeff Rowe, Troy Smith, Jordan Palmer, and Tyler Thigpen.  (The good news is that they will spark no run on bronze.)

If the Raiders had opted not to take a quarterback with the first overall selection, they could have gone in several other directions, taking (for instance) receiver Calvin Johnson, left tackle Joe Thomas, running back Adrian Peterson, and linebacker Patrick Willis.

In hindsight, the smartest play would have been to take Thomas.

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  1. DeionBitesOnDoubleMoves says: Apr 29, 2010 2:40 PM

    JaMarcus Russell is a great competitive eater. Get over it! We can win with his girth.
    Looking back, what a god-awful list of QBs. Megatron should’ve been the pick.

  2. Fonetik says: Apr 29, 2010 2:41 PM

    JaMarcus Russell once had 20 sacks in a single game.

  3. BenRapistberger says: Apr 29, 2010 2:42 PM

    Joe Thomas? The guy is great, but the other 3 are arguably on their way to the HoF… AP has all but secured his spot already.

  4. LighTsouT says: Apr 29, 2010 2:42 PM

    Woulda, shoulda, coulda, but Al Davis. I mean, but didn’t.

  5. raider4life says: Apr 29, 2010 2:43 PM

    I hope he never has kids so they do not have to bare the burden of knowing that their old man was such a loser……

  6. Cleg says: Apr 29, 2010 2:44 PM

    I did not realize Kevin Kolb was good. When did we find out that was true?

  7. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Apr 29, 2010 2:45 PM

    the best of that QB bunch is Troy Smith
    and i don’t give a f&$K that man looked very good during the preseason
    second would be Thigpen then Kevin Kolb

  8. jbuzz31 says: Apr 29, 2010 2:45 PM

    Tyler Thigpen was actually pretty damn good when he started those games for the Cheifs. I think he averaged somewhere around 270 yards a game or so.

  9. Gnarburger says: Apr 29, 2010 2:45 PM

    How did 4 TDs and 7 INTs in 130 pass attempts make Kevin Kolb “good”? He’s also managed to lose 2 fumbles. The guy’s barely played and his numbers aren’t great, but he’s the “good” one? At least Brady Quinn has thrown more TDs than INTs.

  10. mls3007 says: Apr 29, 2010 2:45 PM

    Give Quinn a break. He has been screwed from the time he was drafted. Now it looks like he will get f ed over in Denver. He needs to go somewhere where he can play.

  11. emdub52 says: Apr 29, 2010 2:45 PM

    Very smart Florio… take Thomas when only 3 years before they took what everyone said was to be the best LT in the draft in Gallary.
    Let me know when an NFL team hires you so I can finally take over this site.

  12. mikeds says: Apr 29, 2010 2:45 PM

    they could have taken Joe Thomas in the first round and Trentative Edwards in the second, and they Trentative would have had all the time in the world to check down on every play! JUST LOSE BABY!

  13. BayouWarrior says: Apr 29, 2010 2:46 PM

    RAIDERS BLOW, and as long as Al Davis is running the team as a coaching owner, they will never win. same goes for Dallas and Washington, with Jones and Synder thinking that they know it all.
    WHODATNATION

  14. DowninCtown says: Apr 29, 2010 2:46 PM

    Hold on a sec, does that mean the Brownies made the “smartest play”?

  15. overkil2 says: Apr 29, 2010 2:47 PM

    Raiders and smart play? Naw, will never happen.

  16. grant says: Apr 29, 2010 2:48 PM

    Troy Smith will be the best QB in this draft if hes given the chance

  17. dunkingonuts says: Apr 29, 2010 2:49 PM

    Four Jamarcus Russell posts in one day..! Must be a new PFT record..!

  18. cmonman says: Apr 29, 2010 2:51 PM

    AP would have been a bust if he was drafted by the raiders. Maybe it’s not the players… maybe its just the Raiders. just sayin!!

  19. ksafe29 says: Apr 29, 2010 2:52 PM

    Trent Edwards was a very good quarterback until he got drilled by Adrian Wilson, but you’d never know it because of the media’s lack of attention to Buffalo sports, Florio. I bet you don’t even remember Buffalo’s 4-0 start, with 3 comebacks lead by Mr. Edwards in those 4 wins to start the 2008 season.

  20. jermely says: Apr 29, 2010 2:52 PM

    OMG I can’t believe your not a GM with that astute assesment. If you ran every team in the league it would be filled with Brady’s, Manning’s and Favre’s.
    Your only three years late on your assesment. Other than that, great stuff!
    Florio, you sound so douchy sometimes..

  21. TheOne says: Apr 29, 2010 2:52 PM

    I think this is the worse QB class ever.

  22. Big Stretch says: Apr 29, 2010 2:52 PM

    I believe Matt Schaub was a RFA in 2007, getting him would have been the smart move.

  23. INVAIDUH says: Apr 29, 2010 2:52 PM

    I wanted CJ first.. Edwards in the second.
    It was EXPECTED that the Raiders take a QB FIRST.
    “Because if you don’t have one you need to get one.”…..NFL Network.
    Shove your hindsight.
    BSPN said
    “There’s Russell and then there’s everyone else.”
    Just don’t act like you knew more than you did.
    Cause you didn’t know s#!t.
    Just dump’em baby.
    RAIDER NATION….GFY.
    Pound your hate untill you choke.

  24. TJ says: Apr 29, 2010 2:52 PM

    Patrick Willis is bad ass. Adrian would make any line look real good. CJ would need a qb so he’d be questionable.

  25. robert ethan says: Apr 29, 2010 2:53 PM

    Hey, c’mon, Kevin Kolb has all of TWO NFL starts. Neither of which was particularly remarkable. Both J. Russell and Brady Quinn have accomplished a lot more than that to date. I think that Russell is a year or so younger than Kolb as well. Shake loose of groupthink for a moment.

  26. AlphaQ2 says: Apr 29, 2010 2:53 PM

    Wow! I didn’t realize how bad that QB draft class was. Almost looks like the Raiders never had a chance since they needed a QB.
    Also, I don’t think a couple of games is enough to say that Kolb is any good. Only time will tell on him. Many backup QB’s look great coming in mid game or season and get shut down once defensive coaches get some game tapes (ask Matt Cassel or Tod Collins). It looks very possible that every QB you mentioned above could be a bust. What a crappy year for QB’s.

  27. Pratik Shah says: Apr 29, 2010 2:55 PM

    Wow Kevin Kolb best QB selected, who would have thought about the QBs selected that year.

  28. Hooby says: Apr 29, 2010 2:57 PM

    thigpen was close to becoming great in kansas city until one hit wonder/flash in the pan cassel took the job. biased as i may be, kolb is the best in that class, then thigpen.

  29. toothpick says: Apr 29, 2010 2:58 PM

    ummmmm Revis?

  30. jb10 says: Apr 29, 2010 2:59 PM

    since when was kolb declared as good? he hasn’t even started a handful of games.
    # BenRapistberger says: April 29, 2010 2:42 PM
    Joe Thomas? The guy is great, but the other 3 are arguably on their way to the HoF… AP has all but secured his spot already.
    ALREADY? really? what if he never plays another down? HOF then?

  31. TheOne says: Apr 29, 2010 3:00 PM

    Tyler Thigpen is prob the best QB from this class. I mean if Russell and Quinn had good WR’s around them and a great QB to learn from they would be very good, but that is the issue when taking a QB 1st round, you most likly need a rookie QB to start because you dont have a QB. Look at Rodgers and Romo, both doing very well now after watching some of the best QB’s in the game.
    Granted Elway, Marino, Kelly really didnt want anyone, they where just ballers. Also the best QB class ever. That 2007 class, has to be the worse QB class ever. Maybe even all together, becuase you cant even think of anyone good besides Peterson and Johnson.

  32. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Apr 29, 2010 3:01 PM

    Jordan Palmer was only drafted because of his brother
    didn’t he beg to have him drafted by the Bengals?

  33. dogma1 says: Apr 29, 2010 3:04 PM

    LSU = Bust factory…. Russel, Bowe, landry, Dorsey, Jackson, All busts

  34. Sportnman says: Apr 29, 2010 3:04 PM

    May I ask this question. Why are we blaming JR for being “bad or a bust”. There is a double standard going on here. On one hand some on air/on radio (Cowherd/Millen) are actually defending their positions when it comes to asking inappropriate questions.
    On the other hand, the same personalities are blaming the “player” for being not skilled enough or bad. Well in either case, if you have done your due dilligence, then you have you’re answers and all subsequent decisions and or actions are the fault of your incompetence not the players; in respect to off the field issues aside.

  35. INVAIDUH says: Apr 29, 2010 3:04 PM

    @BayouWarrior..
    Congrats on your FIRST good season..
    Dont spray it all at once.
    R. Nation….

  36. EricTheClown says: Apr 29, 2010 3:04 PM

    WHODATNATION = idiots

  37. Ray Guy says: Apr 29, 2010 3:04 PM

    # BayouWarrior says: April 29, 2010 2:46 PM
    RAIDERS BLOW, and as long as Al Davis is running the team as a coaching owner, they will never win. same goes for Dallas and Washington, with Jones and Synder thinking that they know it all.
    WHODATNATION
    _____________________________________
    Even though I agree about the statements about Al Davis, I find this ironic coming from a fan of a team that spent most of its years wearing bags over their heads.

  38. TheDPR says: Apr 29, 2010 3:05 PM

    I don’t think Troy Smith is done. He was developing well, got hurt/sick in preseason, and Joe Flacco replaced him with (slightly) above average play. He’s not a Hall of Famer but he still has the potential he was drafted for. I don’t know what Drew Stanton’s issues were in Detroit but they never let him play even when QBs were falling all around him. He must suck in practice but still show enough potential to keep him employed.

  39. hanifan says: Apr 29, 2010 3:07 PM

    Garnering my limited support for Al Davis……..I do love that statements about never winning. I’m pretty sure Al has taken his teams to superbowls in every decade over the last 5 years. Is it a nice pretty franchise…….hell no…..But does he get it together for a run or two every decade……Usually!!
    The Saints have been to one…….

  40. Silver Back says: Apr 29, 2010 3:07 PM

    Whodat??? 1 championship and 20+ of embarrassment. Raiders cowboys and skins more championships than you have brain cells.

  41. hamm3rfish says: Apr 29, 2010 3:07 PM

    I have to defend Florio on the Kolb assessment…seriously, how can Kolb fail when he comes from the QB stud farm University of Houston who also gave us Andre Ware & David Klingler?!?!?
    JaMarcus Russell = Case Study for Rookie Salary Cap

  42. The Van Buren Boys says: Apr 29, 2010 3:09 PM

    Fonetik, was that 20 sacks or 20 snacks that JaWalrus had in a single game???

  43. 1mge says: Apr 29, 2010 3:09 PM

    AP already HOF, slow down Viking Fan. The battering ram from Stanford will take goal line carries away from the fumbler this year!

  44. Wrong says: Apr 29, 2010 3:10 PM

    The best quarterback from this class may be one that wasn’t drafted in Matt Moore. Good research once again Florio for missing this one.

  45. bryce9erfan says: Apr 29, 2010 3:11 PM

    WOW KLOB SUCKS AND SO DO THE EAGLES, there is no proof that Klob is any good, WTF has AP done to be HOF last time I checked playoff fumbles is not a stat that gets you a bust, its a stat that gets you called a bust.

  46. jreed says: Apr 29, 2010 3:11 PM

    Gnarburger says: April 29, 2010 2:45 PM
    How did 4 TDs and 7 INTs in 130 pass attempts make Kevin Kolb “good”?
    ========
    I do believe that Brett Favre had about the same stats after his first two starts as well. The Reason the NFL Experts say that Kolb will be good, because he fits into Philly’s system and has shown that he can manage a game. Tossing over 300 yards a game really negates the interceptions in most peoples mind.

  47. Jack Acid says: Apr 29, 2010 3:11 PM

    But JaWalrus Bustell and Brady “I can’t land a starting job if my life depended on it” Quinn are elite.

  48. Wrong says: Apr 29, 2010 3:12 PM

    The best quarterback from this class may be one that wasn’t drafted in Matt Moore. Good research once again Florio for missing this one.

  49. bobinpuertorico says: Apr 29, 2010 3:12 PM

    Florio, you really think that Kevin Kolb, taken #36, is the only good QB to date from that draft? What about Trent Edwards of the Bills, taken #92? I think most people would agree that the Eagles O-line has been much better than the Bills O-line, and that Andy Ried is a much better head coach than Dick Jauron. So the situation for Edwards has not been nearly as conducive to success as it has for Kolb, but still, Edwards has outplayed him. In his first three years, Kolb has attempted 130 passes, completed 60.8% of them, and earned an overall QB rating of 68.9. Edwards, while playing for the lowly Bills, has attempted 826 passes, completed 61.3%, and earned a QB rating of 77.9. Edwards has been the better QB, will be the better QB in the future and was the much greater value in the 2007 draft. This is why the late Bill Walsh called Marv Levy after the draft to say that the Bills had made an outstanding choice taking Edwards. With a better head coach (Chan Gailey) and an improved O-line, look for Edwards to be one of the top ten QBs in the entire NFL this year.

  50. tamparays2010 says: Apr 29, 2010 3:13 PM

    Kevin Kolb is the only qb in history to throw for over 300 hundred yards in his first 2 starts. Someone please let me know when Jamarcus has thrown for 300 yrds. Ever. In all of his starts. Don’t worry I’ll wait. Kolb has proven in only 2 starts that hes better than both. Reference the td to int ration all you want, but that will be a moot point after this yr when hes throwing bombs to desean jackson and maclin every week

  51. tian says: Apr 29, 2010 3:14 PM

    Kevin Kolb is ‘Good.’ That lost me. He hasn’t done much of anything yet.
    Trent Edwards is actually the best so far. Kevin Kolb and then Troy Smith rounds out the order. (Kevin Kolb’s stats are better right now.) But let me say this: Both Kevin Kolb AND Troy Smith haven’t started many games. They are both unproven.

  52. Chapnasty2 says: Apr 29, 2010 3:17 PM

    I wonder if anyone asked him if his mom was a hooker in pre-draft interviews.

  53. raiderrob21 says: Apr 29, 2010 3:20 PM

    HEY GLORYHOLE!!!
    WHAT AN IDIOT YOU ARE!!!
    Woulda,coulda, shoulda,!!!!
    Do you realize you can do that with EVERY TEAM in the NFL for the entire history of the draft????
    Where are your credentials for writing such a STUPID article.
    Even you have sunk to an all time low!

  54. mikethepa says: Apr 29, 2010 3:21 PM

    Adrian Peterson would have been the better pick, so they wouldn’t have drafted McFadden the following year after seeing what a rookie RB can do. They could have taken Clady, or another top OT in 2008.
    Would you rather have Joe Thomas and Darren McFadden, or AP and a different tackle?

  55. INVAIDUH says: Apr 29, 2010 3:21 PM

    The ONLY NATION is RAIDER NATION.
    All others are just pretenders……
    Know who you’re hitching your wagon to….
    Hate us but you love us…Get your own thoughts
    It’s that good…Dumps……….
    GFY.

  56. Leto_II says: Apr 29, 2010 3:22 PM

    Russell should bcome an offensive lineman.

  57. Dylan says: Apr 29, 2010 3:22 PM

    Funny how your forgot to mention the best player in that draft class; Darrelle Revis.

  58. Wrong says: Apr 29, 2010 3:24 PM

    Matt Moore = best QB from this class. He just wasn’t drafted. Good research of course Florio by forgetting to include him but not forgetting Jordan Palmer and Jeff Rowe.

  59. snnyjcbs says: Apr 29, 2010 3:25 PM

    Lets get over it, there are busts year after year on every team in the NFL. Hell teams like Detroit, Chicago, Arizona, Rams, Saints, Jets, Bills and on and on I could go have been drafting Draft Busts for decades with a couple of the teams turning it around a little of late.
    So the Raiders have had a few bad years since the last Super Bowl trip 7 years ago. Laugh all you want, the Raiders are a much better team than the record they had last year would show. With the moves being made this season and with finally a real QB they should start coming back.
    The one word that fits with Draft on a regular basis is BUST. It is a crap shoot.

  60. GirthyOne says: Apr 29, 2010 3:25 PM

    Lane Kiffen actually argued with Al Davis over this pick, as I recall.

  61. Slow Joe says: Apr 29, 2010 3:27 PM

    Hey! Where’d my post go?!?
    I swear, 60 other people post comments calling Florio every name in the book that get approved, but every other time I point out an error on this blog my original post disappears into the Internet Ether.

  62. JagsFanFlorioStinks says: Apr 29, 2010 3:27 PM

    Lets not forget 2007 was also the year PFT really began to take off, making it an even more dreadful year.
    You STINK Florio!

  63. edgy1957 says: Apr 29, 2010 3:27 PM

    Let’s not forget that before LSU put a whipping on Notre Dame, Quinn was considered the class of the class.
    Now, Kolb still hasn’t done anything yet and I’d reserve judgement until after he’s made it through the 8 game of the season. I don’t think that there was anyone outside of Russell or Quinn, who would have peaked Davis’ interest but maybe he might take a flyer on Edwards.

  64. mwcarolina says: Apr 29, 2010 3:29 PM

    As of right now the best passers in this draft are Kolb and Matt Moore. Why people love Troy Smith is confusing. He looked good in preseason, but it’s preseason. Kolb and Moore looked good in the regular season, but anyways if the Raiders could’ve done this all over again, Calvin Johnson should’ve been looked at or Joe Thomas, one of those two.

  65. encinitasraider says: Apr 29, 2010 3:29 PM

    The guys in the Raiders lockeroom gave JRUSS a nickname….Radio.
    This is str8 from Justin Fargas

  66. NickSabanSucks says: Apr 29, 2010 3:30 PM

    Just for the record its AD not AP
    it means All Day

  67. JDMVP says: Apr 29, 2010 3:30 PM

    WOW the worst draft QB class ever

  68. Tinbender says: Apr 29, 2010 3:31 PM

    All the experts picked Russell #1, not just Al. He started to show some skill in year two, then regressed to being worst than when he was a LSU. What happened? WTFK

  69. Cincinnasty says: Apr 29, 2010 3:32 PM

    But the Raiders could have waited until round two, where the only good (to date) quarterback from the entire class was available. With the 36th pick, the Eagles landed Kevin Kolb.
    on what ground’s he’s never played a season as a starter.. Most of them QB’s haven’t..

  70. Panda_Claus says: Apr 29, 2010 3:32 PM

    2007 QB draft class = 1994 QB draft class?
    Heath Shuler, Trent Dilfer, Perry Klein, Doug Nussmeier, Jim Miller, Gus Frerotte, Jay Walker, Steve (not Shane) Matthews, Glenn Foley.
    Total drudge of the barrel. The only thing that saves the ’94 class from total embarrassment is that Jeff Garcia and Kurt Warner were both UFA’s.

  71. FAS says: Apr 29, 2010 3:34 PM

    Hey…Jordan Palmer got a Heisman vote…more than can be said for the others.

  72. AlphaQ2 says: Apr 29, 2010 3:38 PM

    tamparays2010 says:
    April 29, 2010 3:13 PM
    Kevin Kolb is the only qb in history to throw for over 300 hundred yards in his first 2 starts. Someone please let me know when Jamarcus has thrown for 300 yrds. Ever. In all of his starts. Don’t worry I’ll wait. Kolb has proven in only 2 starts that hes better than both. Reference the td to int ration all you want, but that will be a moot point after this yr when hes throwing bombs to desean jackson and maclin every week
    ———————————————–
    I wouldn’t hold my breath man. One of those games was against the Saints where the Eagles were getting blown out and Kolb racked up garbage yards in a 48-22 romping and the other was against the Chiefs. Kolb is the second coming of AJ Feely and will get smoked when he plays NFC East games. Enjoy!

  73. rraider says: Apr 29, 2010 3:43 PM

    A good article, save the Kolb comment. Worse QB draft of all time. Although the Raiders didnt help the JaMarcus situation and should have know he was very young and immature. He is still only 25 years old and has only started 20-25 games. But the way he is being killed in the media I not sure I blame him for packing it in.
    He was complete unprepared for the criticism that the Raiders…..NFL players get.

  74. WarrenMoonGOAT says: Apr 29, 2010 3:44 PM

    FAS says:
    April 29, 2010 3:34 PM
    Hey…Jordan Palmer got a Heisman vote…more than can be said for the others.
    u sure know alot about Football
    Troy Smith won the heisman

  75. robert ethan says: Apr 29, 2010 3:44 PM

    Russell is 24 years old.
    When Tom Brady was 24, his career stats were 3 passes thrown, 1 completed, 0 starts.

  76. sharkattack says: Apr 29, 2010 3:45 PM

    When you could have had Thomas, Petterson, or Johnson, it makes you feel bad for Raiders fans.

  77. No-Neck says: Apr 29, 2010 3:48 PM

    I have a feeling the 2010 QB class may go the same way,with the exception that Bradford is not going to end up on the Biggest Loser.

  78. cbrianwatkins says: Apr 29, 2010 3:51 PM

    c’mon guys, Kolb is the new starter in Philly, he’s going to take that team to a Superbowl this year, philly’s have said so!!!!!
    (end sarcasm)

  79. Ilovefoolsball says: Apr 29, 2010 3:54 PM

    Jamarcus is one of the most interesting stories in the history of the NFL. An overall #1 draft choice who I saw was going to be a bust before he was even drafted. It’s not important to be able to throw a football 70 yards on your knees or be as big as a house. Look at Drew Brees. Dudes one of the smallest QB’s in the league yet he was the superbowl MVP and is arguably in the top 3 in the league.
    I laughed when I heard people in Oakland saying they were going to quit being a Raider fan if they didn’t draft JaMarcus. What a joke!
    After following LSU and SEC football I knew as many knew that JaMarcus was never a dominant player at LSU. In fact the entire time he was playing there was a qb controversy. Do scouts even look at this stuff? Did they ever think that he would be able to read defenses?
    In my opinion JaMarcus shouldn’t have been drafted till the 3rd round or later. Oakland got what they deserve and big daddy Al was determined to prove Lane Kiffin wrong!

  80. KoolKell says: Apr 29, 2010 3:58 PM

    When is the last time the Raiders drafted and developed a QB?

  81. Treezs says: Apr 29, 2010 3:59 PM

    If I was a GM, I’d take a serious look at Thigpen.. maybe that’s why I’m not a GM, or one of the thousand reasons. I just can’t shake how impressed I was with his play the few times he started.

  82. chickenragnarpartdeux says: Apr 29, 2010 4:02 PM

    Slow Joe says:
    April 29, 2010 3:27 PM
    Hey! Where’d my post go?!?
    I swear, 60 other people post comments calling Florio every name in the book that get approved, but every other time I point out an error on this blog my original post disappears into the Internet Ether.
    =========================
    Get used to it. it happens to me and Jimicos and Supersuckers all the time, just letting you know.
    It’s random and there isn’t anything we can do about it.
    Don’t you just love censorship?

  83. Cecil says: Apr 29, 2010 4:03 PM

    “I bet you don’t even remember Buffalo’s 4-0 start, with 3 comebacks lead by Mr. Edwards in those 4 wins to start the 2008 season.”
    Saddest internet comment ever.

  84. armed and hammered says: Apr 29, 2010 4:04 PM

    Wish they would quite messing around and just run his ass off. With the kinda money he’s do we could pickup some decent offensive linemen

  85. Pack_Attack says: Apr 29, 2010 4:07 PM

    # BenRapistberger says: April 29, 2010 2:42 PM
    Joe Thomas? The guy is great, but the other 3 are arguably on their way to the HoF… AP has all but secured his spot already.
    Are you stoned? How?

  86. Jon says: Apr 29, 2010 4:08 PM

    “Joe Thomas? The guy is great, but the other 3 are arguably on their way to the HoF… AP has all but secured his spot already.”
    And 3 Pro Bowls and an All Pro selection in three years is NOT on the way to the HoF?

  87. Chiefs2010 says: Apr 29, 2010 4:18 PM

    Tyler Thigpen just needs an opportunity, he shows flashes..

  88. KoolKell says: Apr 29, 2010 4:20 PM

    Since Free Agency, 1989.
    6 winning seasons in the last 20.
    3 winning seasons in the last 15.
    The 80yr old GM produced this:
    09′ 5-11
    08′ 5-11
    07′ 4-12
    06′ 2-14
    05′ 4-12
    04′ 5-11
    03′ 4-12
    7 Straight Double-Digit Losing Seasons. (NFL Record)
    Al Davis:
    Lowest attendance in the NFL.
    2nd least valuable franchise in NFL.
    In the last 7 years:
    ——————-
    5 Head Coaches,
    8 Starting QB’s.
    1 General Manager, Al Davis

  89. D says: Apr 29, 2010 4:27 PM

    # BenRapistberger says: April 29, 2010 2:42 PM
    Joe Thomas? The guy is great, but the other 3 are arguably on their way to the HoF… AP has all but secured his spot already.
    ==========================================
    Spoken like a true Steeler fan. Thomas will be in the HoF if he continues to play like he has already but he has to do so at a high level for many years to come. And no one can secure a spot in the HoF with only 4 NFL seasons.

  90. We need linemen says: Apr 29, 2010 4:37 PM

    “WarrenMoonGOAT says:
    April 29, 2010 3:01 PM
    Jordan Palmer was only drafted because of his brother
    didn’t he beg to have him drafted by the Bengals?”
    Jordan Palmer was drafted by the Redskins, to a resounding chorus of “wtf!” from the fans.
    ============
    ksafe29 says:
    April 29, 2010 2:52 PM
    Trent Edwards was a very good quarterback until he got drilled by Adrian Wilson, but you’d never know it because of the media’s lack of attention to Buffalo sports, Florio. I bet you don’t even remember Buffalo’s 4-0 start, with 3 comebacks lead by Mr. Edwards in those 4 wins to start the 2008 season.
    ————-
    I can remember a lot of “experts” talking about what a great young QB the Bills had found. He did have a good start to his career and looked like a promising player but he has been ruined by playing behind an appalling defensive line.
    The same thing happened to Patrick Ramsey in Washington. At first everyone was saying that he was a good prospect, all they needed to do was protect him better and then all of a sudden the “prevailing wisdom” switched to him being a bust without any notice being paid to the fact that he didn’t have pocket to pass from.
    It wasn’t too long ago that people were talking about Drew Brees being too short to play in the NFL and that the Chargers had to replace him if they wanted to win. They didn’t draft Rivers on a whim. Most of the “experts” had declared Brees a bust, when in reality his early struggles were related to playing on poor teams.

  91. Chapnasty2 says: Apr 29, 2010 4:42 PM

    @ Lex
    Apparently you know nothing about football if you think raw talent makes you the best player at any position. There are several factors that make someone the best at their position and Russell lacks all of them. Your commenting ability has been revoked due to stupidity.

  92. theTRUTHwillSETuFREE says: Apr 29, 2010 4:43 PM

    # BayouWarrior says: April 29, 2010 2:46 PM
    RAIDERS BLOW, and as long as Al Davis is running the team as a coaching owner, they will never win. same goes for Dallas and Washington, with Jones and Synder thinking that they know it all.
    WHODATNATION
    ——————————————-
    I love hearing tips about how we can start winning from great franchises like the Bengals. And if your gonna insult our team, you shouldn’t be STEALING our motto’s. You dumb dipsh!t…..There is only 1 Nation. And it sure as Fu^% aint the Who Dat one. Get some originality and come up with your own crap.
    That goes for EVERYONE!! RedSox fans included. We are the ONLY NATION, dont forget it!!

  93. Chapnasty2 says: Apr 29, 2010 4:46 PM

    chickenragnarpartdeux says:
    April 29, 2010 4:02 PM
    Slow Joe says:
    April 29, 2010 3:27 PM
    Hey! Where’d my post go?!?
    I swear, 60 other people post comments calling Florio every name in the book that get approved, but every other time I point out an error on this blog my original post disappears into the Internet Ether.
    =========================
    Get used to it. it happens to me and Jimicos and Supersuckers all the time, just letting you know.
    It’s random and there isn’t anything we can do about it.
    Don’t you just love censorship?
    =========================
    It happens to me when I make logical points as well. I noticed that if I call people morons or curse it goes right up. It has to do with the debate that comes about from us arguing over and over and the hits it generates .

  94. Tcostant says: Apr 29, 2010 4:52 PM

    Read a good article lately, stating how Lane Kippin want to draft Calvin Johnson not Russell and begged Al Davis to do so. Davis drafted Russell and told Lane “Russell is a great player”.

  95. We need linemen says: Apr 29, 2010 4:57 PM

    “But the Raiders could have waited until round two, where the only good (to date) quarterback from the entire class was available. With the 36th pick, the Eagles landed Kevin Kolb.”
    When did Kolb prove that he was good. As far as I remember he a had a couple of decent games and at least one total disaster.
    The fact that the Eagles have handed him the starting job doesn’t mean he is any good, just that the coaching staff thinks he is. Let’s give him a full season under centre before making a judgement on whether he deserved their confidence.

  96. Ilovefoolsball says: Apr 29, 2010 5:05 PM

    theTRUTHwill:
    you lost the privilege of being called any kind of “Nation” when you decided to draft Jabustus. I thought the Ricky Williams draft pick was bad when Ditka was in New Orleans but forever “Raider Nation” will be known for the worst overall draft pick in the history of the NFL.
    WHO DAT NATION!!!!!!!!!!!
    WHO DAT
    WHO DAT
    WHO DAT SAY THEY GONNA BEAT THEM SAINTS??
    not “raider nation” hahahahaha

  97. crise40g says: Apr 29, 2010 5:20 PM

    I’m a Raiders fan and I hate Jamarcus. That clown should have never been picked. When he says that he wants to go to the team that picks first or who can pay him the most money it shows that he’s in it for all the wrong reasons. I, for one, was hoping that Megatron or All Day would have been the pick.
    Oh yeah, there’s only 1 Nation, The Raider Nation! Everybody else are just biters! C’mon, Bayou Warrior, you were one of the “bag heads” right? Way to stick up for your team. Only in the good times, only in the good times.

  98. Bwa Ha Ha says: Apr 29, 2010 5:25 PM

    Only two QB’s came through in the “99 draft.
    Andy Reid picked one of those too.

  99. Slow Joe says: Apr 29, 2010 5:28 PM

    # Chapnasty2 says: April 29, 2010 4:46 PM
    chickenragnarpartdeux says:
    April 29, 2010 4:02 PM
    Slow Joe says:
    April 29, 2010 3:27 PM
    Hey! Where’d my post go?!?
    I swear, 60 other people post comments calling Florio every name in the book that get approved, but every other time I point out an error on this blog my original post disappears into the Internet Ether.
    =========================
    Get used to it. it happens to me and Jimicos and Supersuckers all the time, just letting you know.
    It’s random and there isn’t anything we can do about it.
    Don’t you just love censorship?
    =========================
    It happens to me when I make logical points as well. I noticed that if I call people morons or curse it goes right up. It has to do with the debate that comes about from us arguing over and over and the hits it generates .
    ===========================
    In Florio’s defense, he’s usually pretty good about using the strikethrough font to show his errors and how he’s corrected them.
    But it seems like every other time I point something out, it gets corrected in blog piece and my comment never gets approved. I took a playful jab at him for forgetting to include the year of the draft he was referring to. I check back here later and “2007″ was added, and my comment was not.
    It’s not that big a deal, but people post comments because they want them to be read. I never, or rarely, curse in my comments, so I don’t know any reason why 100% of my comments aren’t approved.

  100. jreed says: Apr 29, 2010 5:52 PM

    @AlphaQ2
    AJ Feeley Never beat out McNabb for the Starting job! Besides, you cannot measure a QB on his Stats? What did Brett Favre’s Stats look like after his first 2 Starts? Payton Manning?, Tom Brady? Tom Bradey is a great QB only because he wants to prove that it was a mistake to pass up on him. He is Driven to win…..Kolb is a very driven person. He wants to get better, He wants to win the superbowl this season. I have never seen McNabb this serious. You wont see this guy Joking and laughing after an Int or an Incomplete pass. Kolb will strive for perfection every year. It will be fun watching him play, Vs Frustrating W/ McNabb.

  101. KoolKell says: Apr 29, 2010 6:40 PM

    NFL’s All Time Worst 5 General Managers.
    ————————–
    Wow, a one-time genius is now stuck in the past. When an owner/general manager continues to use the phrase “commitment to excellence” over and over again to describe a team that has a record of 29-83 since 2003, 7 consecutive seasons of 11 loses or more, and 4 coaches in 6 years, you know he’s living in the past. The once proud franchise took a page out of Daniel Snyder’s business handbook on Football management. At one time, this franchise had the greatest winning percentage in all of professional sports, was a perennial playoff team and contender year after year. Somewhere along the way, Al Davis went completely insane, hired and fired coaches over and over again, and displayed a complete lack of understanding not typical of someone in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Known as a ‘maverick’, he’s certainly that as he’s ignored the conventional wisdom of hiring good people and leaving them alone.
    Instead, he’s known to interfere in play calling, chasing over the hill free agents, and drafting complete duds like Jamarcus Russell whose 3 year quarterback rating is an abysmal 65.2%.
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2557245/the_nfls_top_5_alltime_worst_general_pg2.html?cat=14

  102. When Ben farts Debs lips move says: Apr 29, 2010 6:41 PM

    “Give Quinn a break. He has been screwed from the time he was drafted.”
    Who exactly was screwing Quinn when, as a rookie, he staged a long holdout while the starting job was up for grabs?
    His own damn fault for CHOOSING not to play and compete and leaving the door wide open for DA to make the pro bowl. Nobody screwed him but himself.

  103. RAIDERNATION_408 says: Apr 29, 2010 6:48 PM

    THERE’S ONLY ONE NATION, stop biting and trying to be something your not, it isnt just a team, its a lifestyle and a way of life, win lose or tie RAIDERS TILL WE DIE

  104. BigSuede says: Apr 29, 2010 8:05 PM

    To be fair, Lane Kiffin NEVER wanted Jamarcus Russel and argued to draft Calvin Johnson.
    Just something to remember

  105. INVAIDUH says: Apr 29, 2010 8:14 PM

    @ILoveFoolsBall…
    Hey Fool…
    Don’t forget that “whoDat” started with bags on your heads…Young Boi….
    One season doesn’t make a NATION.
    The ONLY Nation. RAIDER NATION.
    GFY.

  106. comment_submission_error says: Apr 29, 2010 9:26 PM

    It’s easy to criticize after the fact, you tool. In hindsight you can look smarter than the person that had to make the decision by doing a google search. Are you getting paid too much?

  107. AcidSoda says: Apr 29, 2010 10:47 PM

    At Ilovefoosball,
    “you lost the privilege of being called any kind of “Nation” when you decided to draft Jabustus”
    I guess some people never leave elementary school.
    there is only the raider nation, your franchise is the “can’t show my face in public my team is so bad” The Ain’ts

  108. AlphaQ2 says: Apr 30, 2010 10:18 AM

    @jreed
    Kolb didn’t beat out McNabb either. Both Kolb and McNabb’s contracts were done after this year. The Eagles realized that they would have to give both large contracts next year in order to keep them. So they did the wise thing and traded McNabb because they were able to get a very high second round pick for him (the compensation would have been much less if they had traded Kolb and Kolb will not demand as large a contract as McNabb). To imply that Kolb beat out a 6 time pro-bowler because of two starts (one against the worst secondary in the league and the other where he gained mostly garbage stats due to being blown out) is just flat out not true. The Eagles are a well run organization and they did the prudent thing. They got what they could for McNabb before being forced to give him a huge contract or watch him walk and get nothing. KOLB DID NOT BEAT HIM OUT.

  109. 1NationRaiderNation says: Apr 30, 2010 11:25 AM

    Florio what is your facisnation with J-Russ…..do you want to date him?

  110. Dawgpound2009 says: Apr 30, 2010 12:30 PM

    The Browns need Russell. Its only fair since Oakland got Frye and Gradowski. Let Jawalrus battle it out with “The Real Mccoy”

  111. umrguy42 says: Apr 30, 2010 3:19 PM

    Two nitpicks:
    1. The Hindenburg didn’t exactly explode, just caught fire and burned like crazy.
    2. Not to switch sports on you all, but “only one nation”… well, Cardinal Nation, as in the St. Louis (baseball) cardinals has been around since easily the ’40s, and is *much* bigger than Raider Nation or “Red Sox” Nation (gimme a frakkin’ break).

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