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Former Saints director of security opened negotiations with $2 million demand

The lawsuit filed by former Saints director of security Geoffrey Santini against the defending Super Bowl champions likely won’t be going away soon, and so it will be providing constant fodder for reporting, analysis, debate.

For starters, multiple sources tell us that, before filing suit, Santini requested payment in the amount of $2 million in exchange for a full and complete settlement of his claims.  Though the Saints could be tempted to describe the demand as a take-it-or-leave-it number, it’s our understanding that it was a traditional opener, a common facet of any legal negotiation. 

Basically, the plaintiff starts high, the defendant starts low, and the question becomes whether an acceptable middle ground can be identified. 

As we understand it, the Saints did not respond to the opening demand.  Per our sources, Santini’s counsel, Donald Hyatt, eventually offered to make a bottom-line, non-negotiable demand.  The number was significantly lower than $2 million, and possibly less than $1 million.

In response, no offer came from the Saints.

That said, we’ve picked up indications that the Saints were trying on Friday to put together a package in the low six figures.  Though it likely wouldn’t have been enough to resolve the case, it might have prompted further discussions, at a minimum delaying the filing of the lawsuit.

And so now the case will proceed.  Santini’s camp will likely take the position in any future negotiations that the demand is $2 million, and that the ball is in the team’s court.  The Saints likely will regard the reduced number as Santini’s current position, expecting him to negotiate off of it.  Before any progress can be made, the two sides will need to agree on the number to which the Saints are responding.

Regardless of the mechanics, a settlement can come at any time.  If not, there eventually will be a resolution through the legal system — a dismissal, summary judgment, or a full-blown trial.

We’ll be following it every step of the way.  But you probably already figured that out.

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56 Responses to “Former Saints director of security opened negotiations with $2 million demand”
  1. Fan of Football says: May 1, 2010 10:39 PM

    When you have information that the Head Coach of the Saints is a Vicoden addict, it is worth a lot of money. Surprised he only asked for 2 mil.

  2. Fan of Football says: May 1, 2010 10:40 PM

    The Mayor of New Orleans has denied canceling Mardi Gras this year, in fact he said today
    “I expect a record number of floats on Main St this year!”

  3. SleazyWhipcashPersonalInjuryAttorney says: May 1, 2010 10:43 PM

    Reality is that the plaintiff attorney probably has no real intention of trying the case. The lawsuit filing and release of the details to the press is simply to create leverage for a settlement.
    The cost of defending even the most frivolous of lawsuits is high. As such, meritless lawsuits are typically settled for a nuisance type offer, which is usually calculated as a discount off of the full anticipated defense cost in trying the case.
    In this case, however, the plaintiff is in an excellent position, for trying the case would involve publicizing several sordid details of the alleged drug abuse of Sean Payton, which would tarnish his image and be a PR nightmare for the organization.
    The problem with settling these meritless lawsuits, is that putting money into the pockets of the greedy “sense of entitlement/blame everybody else for their problems” type people, and the sleazy plaintiff attorneys that file them, and this simply perpetuates more meritless lawsuits.
    The best thing in these cases, is to resolve them through the justice system as it was intended. This would weed out meritless cases, and the use of litigation as an extortion tactic, which most of us would agree is a detriment to our society on several different levels.

  4. mzezulak says: May 1, 2010 10:47 PM

    Sounds like this guy see’s everyone in the building making big money but he can’t play or coach so this is his way of cashing in. Loser

  5. davidc45629 says: May 1, 2010 10:50 PM

    If state and federal crimes where committed in the stealing of controlled substances a civil lawsuit is the least of the Saints problems. Where is the tape?

  6. vikes_favre says: May 1, 2010 10:51 PM

    So are they going to do any probing into who stole the vicodin? If it’s true that Payton did, he shouldn’t be exempt from legal punishment. And an NFL punishment should be forthcoming as well.

  7. itchyballs says: May 1, 2010 10:52 PM

    Three hours between post. Wow! Reminds me of the old days when you had a job.

  8. funi says: May 1, 2010 11:13 PM

    The L.A. Saints are sounding liek it will happen by 2013!

  9. bullheel says: May 1, 2010 11:24 PM

    First he steals an expensive bottle of champaigne from Jerry Jones, now hes addicted to vicodin. I love me some rumors.

  10. RunRickyRun says: May 1, 2010 11:30 PM

    Off the record an undisclosed source from the saints organization said the saints representative opened with the statement, “Is your mother a prostitute?”

  11. mr.bozojones says: May 1, 2010 11:31 PM

    Payton said he never “abused” Vicodin. I’m not aware of any injury he’s had that would require such a strong drug. He’s used it. If your taking it without some significant pain managment problem, you’re abusing it.

  12. turbodog says: May 1, 2010 11:37 PM

    Funi…you’re an idiot. Even if Payton was hooked on Vic, selling Meth to school kids, how would even that force a move from New Orleans to L.A.?
    God, the stupidity on this board

  13. Hugh says: May 1, 2010 11:47 PM

    Falcon fans on Mike “Mad Dog” Vick: “It’s only dogs! It’s not like he raped a woman!”
    Steeler fans on Ben Rapesburger: “She was a slut asking to be raped! It’s not like he was selling illegal drugs!”
    Saints fans on Sean “Pills” Payton: “He had a migraine headache! It’s not like he electrocuted dogs!”
    *and full circle*
    Sad that some of you fans defend low life scums like this. Fans like you are truly pathetic.

  14. Krow says: May 1, 2010 11:51 PM

    To arms fanboys… to arms.

  15. Hotwaggy11 says: May 1, 2010 11:52 PM

    funi says:
    May 1, 2010 11:13 PM
    The L.A. Saints are sounding liek it will happen by 2013!
    Benson just signed a very lucrative deal with the state that will put millions in his pocket outside of football. As it is contingent on the Saints staying in NOLA, I don’t see him moving the team.

  16. The Devil says: May 1, 2010 11:53 PM

    ohoh
    I think he listens to AFROMAN!!
    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=2&oq=afroman&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4SKPB_enUS336US342&q=afroman+because+i+got+high

  17. fleet10 says: May 1, 2010 11:59 PM

    Florio, you are amazing………….
    Stewie tells Brian, “hey, Marlon Brando is Brad Pitt’s uncle”
    Brain: “really?”
    Stewie: “no, but doesn’t that sound like something that could totally be true??”

  18. yanks07 says: May 2, 2010 12:08 AM

    this is going to cost the saints WAY more than 2 mil…maybe a few car dealerships too.
    they should’ve paid the man…i mean..come on..a vicodin addict in NO? i would think thats just part of the allure down there.
    not that there’s anything wrong with it.

  19. philwauke says: May 2, 2010 12:09 AM

    The Mayor of New Orleans has denied canceling Mardi Gras this year, in fact he said today
    “I expect a record number of floats on Main St this year!”
    Douche at least pick a street in New Orleans and not the one your sister works on.

  20. hayward giablommi says: May 2, 2010 12:34 AM

    “The L.A. Saints are sounding liek it will happen by 2013!”
    ^^^^^
    WTF are you talking about? The NFL will be holding the Super Bowl in New Orleans in 2013.
    L.A. Vikings? Infinitely more “liekly” to happen than the L.A. Saints.

  21. drbob1117 says: May 2, 2010 12:48 AM

    So he had no problem being part of all of the felonies that he alleges were going on, he just wanted to get paid for his guilty knowledge. That probably won’t help him on the stand later when the defense cross examines him. That said, if any of this is true, Goodell should exact a punishment that makes Michael Vick’s look like a time out. Management needs to be held to a higher standard than the players.

  22. buckeye044 says: May 2, 2010 12:56 AM

    Thank you, New Orleans!
    BR

  23. AcidSoda says: May 2, 2010 1:07 AM

    I wonder if Payton will skip town and head for the Canadian border a la Ryan Leaf

  24. The Wishbone says: May 2, 2010 1:13 AM

    “We’ll be following it every step of the way. But you probably already figured that out.”
    We did figure it out, because the story has little to do with football, so certainly you will now be obsessed with it. If this guy had any facts on his side, he’d have opened with $100 million or so, and gotten it. $2 million is peanuts to Tom Benson.
    That said, Florio, we don’t expect you to understand that. It’s far too obvious.

  25. lvass76 says: May 2, 2010 1:25 AM

    It was me…I admit it…I stole ‘em for Favre…He put ‘em in his Wranglers…I saw it…It’s for his ankle. Hey Brett, have your surgery and Coach Childress can pick you up at the airport and you can skip training camp. What did you have done…pacemaker installed? Hell, skip the first game opening the season against my Saints since they put the whoopin’ on you in the NFC championship game. Let Tavaris start the season off for you guys. LOL!

  26. Kevin says: May 2, 2010 1:25 AM

    I wish this wasn’t a big deal. I wish you were allowed to be a Vicodine addict and it wouldn’t matter.
    Big deal, the guy like pills (maybe).
    Who cares?

  27. Kay Bee says: May 2, 2010 2:21 AM

    Fan of Football says:
    May 1, 2010 10:40 PM
    The Mayor of New Orleans has denied canceling Mardi Gras this year, in fact he said today
    “I expect a record number of floats on Main St this year!”
    ————————————————
    There is no “Main St.” in New Orleans, douche.

  28. Raider Pride says: May 2, 2010 2:51 AM

    itchyballs says:
    May 1, 2010 10:52 PM
    Three hours between post. Wow! Reminds me of the old days when you had a job.
    ==================================
    itchyballs.
    Apply a little Canesten Anti Fungi Cream
    twice a day after washing your balls with soap and water.
    You will find the Itch will subside. And heretofore you can focus on making an intelligent contribution to P.F.T.

  29. dlmcc0909 says: May 2, 2010 3:11 AM

    so an NFL head coach who is a multi millionaire and a prominent figure in the city, decides that he will get his Vicodin fix by stealing it right out of the team facility where he knows there are cameras? Really? there is no way I am buying that. I know stupidity is our main export in this country, but come on. I am sure he could have gotten it from plenty of other places including his own doctor. these guys get their hands on every major steroid and narcotic drug. No one would be dumb enough especially not a head coach to steal it form the team building

  30. iusedtobeteddybayer says: May 2, 2010 5:36 AM

    this is bad. anyway you cut it. really, really bad.
    can you imagine Goddell’s expression when he heard about this?
    this is bad. anyway you cut it. really, really bad.

  31. seatofmypants says: May 2, 2010 7:30 AM

    First of, he is claiming constructive discharge. That means, the conditions at work were so unbearable, that he was forced to quit. So, that could support his claims that when he found out about this, he brought it the attention of the people in power, and when they did nothing about it, he would rather quit than work for such an organization.
    In addition, if there were cameras near where the viocidin was kept, that by itself does not mean that pay ton couldn’t have taken it.
    1. He may not have known the cameras were there.
    2. If he has a bad enough problem, getting the fix may have been more important than the potential of getting caught.
    All this being said, this case will work it’s way through the court system. If the Saints really thought that Santini was extorting them, they would have contacted the police about this as a preemptive move. By not doing that, and by not settling this, they have put themselves in a really bad situation.

  32. AllThat says: May 2, 2010 8:04 AM

    @Raider Pride on itchyballs:
    So you have had this condition and you just told everyone here what you do to get rid of it eh?
    Nice post Jamarcus………….Have some fries now…

  33. mike says: May 2, 2010 8:34 AM

    if this were a player, all hell would brake lose! but because its mgt. it will be over in short order…… roger goodell, has never to my mind, knowledge, ever! held mgt to the same conduct he expects from players. He is a two face pimp for the nfl!!!!!!!!

  34. HarrisonHits says: May 2, 2010 9:03 AM

    “So he had no problem being part of all of the felonies that he alleges were going on, he just wanted to get paid for his guilty knowledge. ”
    @drbob1117
    Just the opposite. Sounds like he wanted to report this and have it investigated as a criminal matter and the team buried it and him in the process costing him his job.

  35. Jack Factor says: May 2, 2010 9:07 AM

    Somebody please give me Drew Brees’ kid headphones.
    Sean “Payote Buttons” Payton better get clean now. He was obviously taking the stuff for no other reason then to feel awake and good.
    Saints will pay a smaller settlement and Goodell’s staff will have to look into it.
    With all of the injuries on NFL teams and tales of pill abuse or dealing, this is probably the tip of the iceberg. Sounds like these little babies have been like M&Ms in locker rooms for decades.

  36. tom coughlin's coat holder says: May 2, 2010 9:23 AM

    @seatofmypants…very good observation.

  37. Big BrEasy says: May 2, 2010 9:29 AM

    I have never seen such a pathetic fan as Fan of Football. Your personal beef with New Orleans is a joke. We kicked your ass and won the Super Bowl, and no, it was no fluke, just the start of a DYNASTY!!
    PS-Are you Pervy’s sister?

  38. Bucforever says: May 2, 2010 9:31 AM

    It will be so great to get to talk about some real football stuff . I hate this time of yearLets get to the OTR’s soon!

  39. CaptainObvious says: May 2, 2010 10:48 AM

    “The lawsuit … likely won’t be going away soon, and so it will be providing constant fodder for reporting, analysis, debate.”
    ..as Florio masturbates on his keyboard…

  40. FNGS says: May 2, 2010 11:03 AM

    Big BrEasy says:
    May 2, 2010 9:29 AM
    I have never seen such a pathetic fan as Fan of Football. Your personal beef with New Orleans is a joke. We kicked your ass and won the Super Bowl, and no, it was no fluke, just the start of a DYNASTY!!
    PS-Are you Pervy’s sister?
    ___________________________________
    I agree with you. All Vikings fans ever do is bitch about how Packerfans never let anything go, and here all they do is complain about how the Saints never really won the NFC Champ game. Well guess what they LOST, so get over IT.

  41. SayItAin'tSoFlorio says: May 2, 2010 11:11 AM

    dlmcco909 says:
    “so an NFL head coach who is a multi millionaire and a prominent figure in the city, decides that he will get his Vicodin fix by stealing it right out of the team facility where he knows there are cameras? Really? there is no way I am buying that. I know stupidity is our main export in this country, but come on. I am sure he could have gotten it from plenty of other places including his own doctor. these guys get their hands on every major steroid and narcotic drug. No one would be dumb enough especially not a head coach to steal it form the team building”
    _____________
    According to the lawsuit, Payton never actually stole any of the Vicodin, or it can’t be proven that he did. There were no video cameras set up until after it was discovered that several Vicodin pills were missing. After the cameras were set up, Joe Vitt was caught in the act on more than one occasion.
    It is alleged that Payton received his Vicodin from Vitt.

  42. Schnitzel says: May 2, 2010 11:19 AM

    This is pure black mail, whether Payton did it or not is not important. Why are the Saints negotiating with this creep? He belongs in jail with the guy who tried to blackmail Letterman.

  43. Fan of Football says: May 2, 2010 12:29 PM

    Ouch!! This has got to hurt for the Aint’s fans. This is almost as embarrassing as spygate was for Pat fans.

  44. Fan of Football says: May 2, 2010 12:33 PM

    - The Aint’s playing the Katrina card 5 years after the fact
    - ‘suspicious’ ref calls that go their way in both the SB and NFCC game.
    - The team blackballing local news outlets who do not submit to their brand of propaganda
    - Shoddy treatment of Sharper who got the team to the SB
    - HC and other high level officials running a vicoden ring, no doubt supplying the players too.
    Folks, I thought I would never see this day coming. But a team has just supplanted the Patriots as the Evil Empire of the NFL.
    ohh, but they had a Hurricane 5 years ago, so it’s all okay those poor poor helpless people. lolz

  45. Smitty Gill says: May 2, 2010 12:41 PM

    HOUSE pops pills right and left and he saves peoples lives. They make him sharp so I don’t see a problem with a Vico every now and then. Hell, I’ll have one myself………………….

  46. SF Saints Fan says: May 2, 2010 12:49 PM

    Florio,
    Once again, pounding this “story”, is your “source” for all of this lovely background information the labor and employment plaintiffs lawyer (sounds familiar, sorta like what you were before NBC filled your pockets with money) for the former employee?
    Again, according to the “facts” in the Petition, NFL Security has been aware of these allegations for at least nine months and the silence has been deafening from the hallowed halls of 280 Park Avenue, New York, NY. If NFL Security has had this issue under “investigation” for over nine months, don’t you think something would have “leaked” by now regarding the merit of this story, if there was any?
    Get on your great sources at NFL security and find out what they have uncovered regarding these allegations. If it is nothing substantial please post another story detailing the lack of substance to the allegations.
    At least this is a break from the constant Brett Favre stories.

  47. Leroy'sButler says: May 2, 2010 12:53 PM

    Every football team has some fans that are morons, that’s a given.
    But Vikings fans are the whiniest fans there are. In fact they WIN THE SUPER BOWL for whiniest fans.
    Congratulations, you finally have something for your trophy case.

  48. Ashley says: May 2, 2010 2:45 PM

    @mr.bozojones regarding this comment: ‘Payton said he never “abused” Vicodin. I’m not aware of any injury he’s had that would require such a strong drug. He’s used it. If your taking it without some significant pain managment problem, you’re abusing it.’
    Your lack of personal knowledge of any injury to Payton requiring Vicodin means nothing. My football playing is limited to tossing a Nerf ball. However, I have chronic neck pain for which my doctor has prescribed Vicodin. The drug’s use is not limited to significant football injuries.

  49. Fan of Football says: May 2, 2010 2:47 PM

    Leroy,
    I know you are a TT Lackey who is afraid to say anything negative about the Packers and positive about Favre in the press, for fear of losing your livelihood since it is Wisconsin who signs your paychecks every week. But if you noticed this story has nothing to do with the Vikings, so save your rhetoric. I know you and the Aint’s fans want to deflect attention away from this, but us smarter and more astute fans can see through your bull.
    In the future, try to stick to the topic in hand. Thanks in advance.

  50. Outlaw Jersey Whales says: May 2, 2010 3:09 PM

    CaptainObvious says:
    May 2, 2010 8:55 AM
    Jeff says: May 1, 2010 5:48 PM
    “Christ Fan of Football,
    Do you really just have one “joke” and you just repeat it in every post related to this topic?”
    “Fan of Football”, AKA known as “Outlaw Jersey Whales”, just another nym-shifting idiot that runs and hides behind new names when crushed or cornered in a thread.
    New name.
    Same brain dead idiot.
    ————————————————–
    Captain Oblivious is a god! He pees on graves and the dead rise! I’m his #1 fan! It is said that he has an account on the exclusive dating website___I AM A PROFESSIONAL (AND HYSTERICAL) DOUCHENOZZLE AS WELL WORLDWIDE PRESIDENT OF MENSA WHEN I’M NOT BUSY ALLEGEDLY “CORNERING” AND “CRUSHING” POSTERS IN BLOGS AND FANTASIZING THAT THEY ARE “NYM-SHIFTING” TO AVOID MY STEPHEN-HAWKING-LIKE INTELLECT LIKE THE TOUGHEST MAN ON THE INTERNET THAT I AM___where he hangs out when he’s not changing the course of mighty rivers, bending steel in his bare hands, disguising himself as Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper and fighting a never-ending battle for truth, justice, and the American way!
    I don’t know who “Fan of Football” is but I know who (and what) you are!
    And what in Hell does “AKA know as” mean?
    Captain Oblivious aka Ben Bradlee, Jr.

  51. Big BrEasy says: May 2, 2010 3:13 PM

    Fan of Football says:
    May 2, 2010 12:33 PM
    Folks, I thought I would never see this day coming. But a team has just supplanted the Patriots as the Evil Empire of the NFL.
    ===================================
    If we do supplant “the evil empire,” I will GLADLY take 4 Super Bowl appearances in 7 years, winning 3 of them. You have to do what ever it takes to win games/championships, just ask Kevin/Pat Williams(although they havent won the big one)! I, for one, envy the Pats success! Vikes shall envy ours…

  52. Just Drew It! says: May 2, 2010 3:33 PM

    Fan of Football
    How does it feel that our coach outcoached yours while being high on Vicoden?
    Maybe ‘Chilly’ should try it.

  53. Fan of Football says: May 2, 2010 4:23 PM

    Leroy,
    I know you are a TT Lackey who is afraid to say anything negative about the Packers and positive about Favre in the press, for fear of losing your livelihood since it is Wisconsin who signs your paychecks every week. But if you noticed this story has nothing to do with the Vikings, so save your rhetoric. I know you and the Aint’s fans want to deflect attention away from this, but us smarter and more astute fans can see through your bull.
    In the future, try to stick to the topic in hand. Thanks in advance.

  54. Bious says: May 2, 2010 6:57 PM

    Considering that this got out, the settlement offer will be significantly lower than he originally wanted

  55. Kay Bee says: May 2, 2010 11:21 PM

    Mrsteve says:
    May 2, 2010 2:42 PM
    Just don’t be on here chanting Who Dat & dynasty and all that jazz. I’ve been to the big easy many times & before Katrina & even the following season when the Saints played home games on the road the fans there were like the Saints suck we like the Voodoo.
    D0n’t act like they were your team forever though because you know in 2004 you didn’t even like them. Who Dat, DAT you!
    ————————————————
    Saints fan since 1986…Jim Mora’s first year. I knew once the Saints won the Super Bowl, bitter fans of other teams would immediately discredit the players/fans. Your post reeks of “I need to get laid.”

  56. Ilovefoolsball says: May 2, 2010 11:42 PM

    This is the stupidest, lamest story ever covered in the NFL. Do you really think that NFL coaches don’t routinely use Vicoden, Perc, Oxy, Adderall, and numerous other prescription drugs? I alone know a lot of people who use these drugs and they are professionals. If any other coach or team had this situation it would be run of the mill, ordinary lawsuit/shakedown stuff. Since it’s the Superbowl Champs, it’s big news! Just like the stadium seats that were taken out of the superdome, stories are always bigger when the spotlight is on you.

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