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Sean Payton implicated in alleged Vicodin theft at Saints facility

On Friday, former Saints director of security Geoffrey Santini sued the team for constructive discharge.  He alleges that G.M. Mickey Loomis attempted to cover up evidence that Vicodin was being abused and/or stolen from the team drug locker by two senior staff members.

The lawsuit does not name the two senior staff members.  Per the initial filing, Saints trainer Scottie Patton told Santini that one of the unnamed employees has a “painful medical condition,” and that the other one does not.

Based on extensive discussions with multiple sources having knowledge of the situation but who have requested anonymity given the sensitive nature of the case, the two unnamed senior staff members are assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Vitt and head coach Sean Payton.

Per the lawsuit, “Senior Staff Member A” (i.e., Payton) allegedly was receiving sufficient Vicodin to constitute abuse.  The lawsuit does not specifically allege that “Senior Staff Member A” was stealing the pills.

Keep in mind that these are only allegations.  To date, no proof has been introduced linking either man to the alleged theft, unauthorized use, and/or abuse of Vicodin from the Saints’ drug locker.  It is our understanding that the matter has been referred to local federal authorities, and that the matter has been investigated.  We don’t know whether the investigation has been concluded, or whether it remains active.

Per our sources, Vitt is the staff member with the painful medical condition.  Which means that Payton is the staff member who, based on the information allegedly provided by Patton to Santini, does not have a painful medical condition.

The Saints declined comment on the matter.  Reached by e-mail, V.P. of communications Greg Bensel forwarded his statement from Friday, which initially was given to the New Orleans Times-Picayune.  “I will not have any other comment nor will I be releasing these names,” Bensel told us.

(Here is Bensel’s statement from Friday:  “A former employee who resigned just before the 2009 regular season threatened to go public with these unfounded charges unless we agreed to pay him an exorbitant sum of money.  We refused and now he has gone public.  We will aggressively defend these false allegations in court.  We will not have any further comment on this matter at this time.  Rather we look forward to welcoming our rookie players and want our focus to be on continuing our preparations for the 2010 Football Season and defending our title.”)

We’ve been advised that settlement discussions indeed occurred before the suit was filed, but that an agreement (obviously) was not reached.  The lawsuit filing indicates that formal service of the documents has not yet been requested.  Once service occurs, the Saints will have a finite period of time within which to respond.  Given that the claims implicate federal drug laws, it’s possible that the team will remove the lawsuit from Louisiana state court to federal court.

Typically, federal court provides a more level playing field for business interests.  Given the extent to which the Saints are locally beloved, however, Santini and his lawyer could have a hard time finding jurors in either the state or federal setting who will be capable of overlooking the fleur-de-lis that has been tattooed onto their souls.

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139 Responses to “Sean Payton implicated in alleged Vicodin theft at Saints facility”
  1. Slow Joe says: May 1, 2010 12:28 PM

    It’s going to be another one of those stories.
    I never thought I’d want another Jeff Ireland post.

  2. cusoman says: May 1, 2010 12:35 PM

    Welcome back, ‘Aints! :D

  3. VonClausewitz says: May 1, 2010 12:37 PM

    Wannabe spook uses underhanded tactics to enrich himself?! Say it ain’t so!

  4. Benjamin C Klein says: May 1, 2010 12:38 PM

    this can’t be good.

  5. Saints#12 says: May 1, 2010 12:39 PM

    if only allegations why run the story?

  6. tdtommyd says: May 1, 2010 12:41 PM

    i hope your sources are accurate

  7. Mean D says: May 1, 2010 12:46 PM

    Cool! Now will the Buccaneer ownership please start feeding Vicodin to Radio?

  8. DBagsUnite says: May 1, 2010 12:47 PM

    Over/Under on Florio doing 25 posts a day on this one until we all want to puke?

  9. FloriosPhillyFan says: May 1, 2010 12:47 PM

    oh my god…………….

  10. funi says: May 1, 2010 12:49 PM

    Keep in mind that these are only allegations.
    Just liek Ben!! SUSPEND PAYTON 8 GAMES FOR DRUG USE!!!!!

  11. Ken West says: May 1, 2010 12:51 PM

    Rushlimbaugh should have tried to buy the Saints.
    If this is true Payton could get an 8 game suspension.

  12. wxwax says: May 1, 2010 12:51 PM

    Might be a spurious claim.
    But it sure is awfully detailed for a fictional account.
    Smoke, fire?

  13. Truman says: May 1, 2010 12:52 PM

    florio, you say the dolphins claim about context during prostitute gate isn’t valid because no one will stand up and be named as the accuser. Yet, you report this garbage without naming sources. The lawsuit is slanderous at best. People use the court system to intimidate, bully and enrich themselves. This guy is no better than the church of scientology.

  14. Joe in Toronto, Canada says: May 1, 2010 12:53 PM

    Can Sean Payton really be that dumb?

  15. Boozman says: May 1, 2010 12:55 PM

    a coach taking drugs illegally? if the texas rangers and their manager are any example, this will be no big deal…though it should be IF true…

  16. Fan of Football says: May 1, 2010 12:57 PM

    I love it!!! Those assholes in NO had it coming to them.

  17. Fan of Football says: May 1, 2010 12:57 PM

    America is sick of NO Saints and their fan base, so I am sure many NFL fans will be eating popcorn to this.

  18. MyronB says: May 1, 2010 12:58 PM

    And the Madden Curse is already working its voodoo magic…

  19. Bri715 says: May 1, 2010 1:02 PM

    Now that the allegation has been made, I will be expecting to see the Commissioner suspend both coaches for at least 4 games, no matter if the charges stick or not.

  20. shawnc16 says: May 1, 2010 1:06 PM

    Saints#12 says:
    May 1, 2010 12:39 PM
    if only allegations why run the story?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Because this is a “rumors” and news website, remember.

  21. e.henry says: May 1, 2010 1:10 PM

    My question is why is there a prescription drug locker at a football facility in the first place when that stuff is supposed to be gov regulated?

  22. JimmySmithBlows says: May 1, 2010 1:11 PM

    Bobby McCray is going to need some of that vicodin after he gets his on September 9th. Douchebag Saints fans are still talking like their team actually deserved to win the NFC Title Game.
    I really hope this is true. Payton seems like a shady guy anyway.

  23. buckifan4life says: May 1, 2010 1:12 PM

    I smell a lot of smoke…

  24. DAS says: May 1, 2010 1:13 PM

    Why run the story?
    Cause Florio is a ViQueens fan, duh.
    BTW “Fan of Football” If America is tired of the Saints, why are they still selling more merch than any other NFL team?
    Submit proof that “America is tired of the Saints” or STFU.

  25. East Bay Ray says: May 1, 2010 1:16 PM

    Saints#12 says:
    May 1, 2010 12:39 PM
    if only allegations why run the story?
    ————————–
    Is that a serious question? Have you noticed that most of the original “reporting” on this website is mere allegation? And that they have run approximately 5 billion stories on Big Ben, when his situation is “only allegations”.
    The head coach of the Super Bowl winning team being potentially charged with stealing drugs from the team? We’ll see how it plays out, but this could be a huge story.

  26. tombrookshire says: May 1, 2010 1:19 PM

    They turned over the info to the feds before it was disclosed exactly WHO took the medication. Once that was disclosed, the poor schlub who uncovered it was unceremoniously discharged to keep him quiet. Then they attempt to discredit him by claiming he tried to extort money to keep quiet. Sadly, those coaches could have gotten scripts just by asking. The NFL’s dirty little secrets continue to find the light of day because of blogs like this. The mainstream media is so concerned about access to teams and players that it rarely reports anything that would jeopardize their relationships. People may say Florio is a rumor monger for putting this stuff out there, but when a story has legs, the mainstream media like ESPN jumps all over it and claims they were the ones who fleshed out the information. Let’s see if it doesn’t play out exactly that way. Why do so many fans blindly put their trust in the NFL when they run coverups and smear campaigns that would make the U.S. government and multinational corporations blush.

  27. DAS says: May 1, 2010 1:20 PM

    Any ViQueens fans that think they have a chance to beat the Saints on Sept 9th is friggin delusional.
    Who’s your quarterback, Jackson? Rosenfels? or a 40+ year old surgically repaired human interception machine with no practice and no pre-season, if he has surgery in the coming weeks?

  28. rajuncajun2863 says: May 1, 2010 1:25 PM

    Fan of Football is a L-O-S-E-R along with all the JEALOUS Saints haters. What a bunch of pathetic wanna-be bloggers. Their jealousy of the New Orleans Saints allow them to take solace and gain some satisfaction for their teams’s INABILITY to win last year. Must be a bunch of VIQUEENS and DOLTS fans. Hey, Viqueens, maybe Fagre can get some Vicodin after the ankle surgery…he may want to take a few more after the 2nd A$$ whipping we put on him next year. WHO DAT!!!!! WE DAT!!!! TIRED OF DAT YET??? TWO BAD!!! Oh yeah, losers, get ready for TWO DAT!!!!! LMAO!!!!!! World Champions SAINTS!!!!

  29. ben6969 says: May 1, 2010 1:25 PM

    Screw this guy, he was out to get money from the get go, by the way even if Payton was getting a little loaded on the sideline, he still outcoached 16 other coaches… By the way who can honestly say that they haven’t played a game of maaden tore up and had a bad time???

  30. Deb says: May 1, 2010 1:27 PM

    Oh for crying out loud!
    You may not be a criminal lawyer, but you have a law degree and can read witness statements and investigative reports. You know as well as I do that no one raped either Andrea McNulty or that woman in Georgia. But that didn’t stop you from riding the wave of the media frenzy. And here we go again. You’re damaging the reputation of two NFL coaches based on unsubstantiated rumors. You have no corroborating evidence, no charges have been filed, no witnesses are on the record.
    How is Sean Payton implicated? According to your story, the suit doesn’t name the staff members involved. But now his name will be dragged through the mud for the months or years it takes to resolve this suit.
    I have all the respect in the world for what you’ve done with this site. But this is wrong.

  31. oxycode30 says: May 1, 2010 1:29 PM

    We need to legalize and tax ALL drugs. Who cares if someone enjoys the warm fuzzies of a mild opioid? Let it go.

  32. thecarline says: May 1, 2010 1:29 PM

    Uh; if rumors are true, and Payton is involved in stealing and or taking of drugs from the team doctor, consider his time ticking. A year suspension would be considered delightful for the Saints, as any drug theft, especially coming from a coaching position, is qualifications for immediate firing from any job.

  33. WHODAT says: May 1, 2010 1:29 PM

    Look at all the hater UMADDD,,,, NO REALLY UMAD..
    GO CRY SOME MORE….WHO DAT!

  34. Nola5712 says: May 1, 2010 1:31 PM

    fan of football
    “we had it coming”?? “America is sick of NO Saints and their fan base, so I am sure many NFL fans will be eating popcorn to this.” please elaborate if your educational level allows for it because as far as i can see, the new orleans fanbase is one of, if not the most, loyal in the league. i haven’t talked to ANYONE who is sick of NO OR the saints. you come off like a CHILD who didn’t get his way. get off your 4th period computer science class machine and go read a book.

  35. Jeff says: May 1, 2010 1:31 PM

    Vikings/Favre fans had better tread lightly on this one…………….

  36. contract says: May 1, 2010 1:31 PM

    A federal investigation? That’s GOT to tarnish the image of the NFL. Payton may not even be allowed to watch football games once Goodell gets wind of this.

  37. Nola5712 says: May 1, 2010 1:34 PM

    jimmysmithblows
    payton seems like a shady guy??? have you ever MET him??? or your powers of perception through TV viewings are just that spectacular?? he’s actually a VERY nice guy. this will blow over and all the haters will have their heads stuck in the sand. just because your team’s coach WISHES he had the nutsack of payton doesn’t mean you should just make stupid statements……oh wait, i guess you might have been influenced by someone named florio.

  38. iusedtobeteddybayer says: May 1, 2010 1:41 PM

    Huge.

  39. turbodog says: May 1, 2010 1:42 PM

    hey Jimmy Smith,
    get over it already numnut. Your queens will be in Cali soon enough anyway. Btw,We sure love having that Lombardi trophy down here. Tell Brent we said thanks

  40. sricko says: May 1, 2010 1:44 PM

    e.henry says: May 1, 2010 1:10 PM
    My question is why is there a prescription drug locker at a football facility in the first place when that stuff is supposed to be gov regulated?
    ——————————
    haha because doctors work there too and they can administer these types of drugs…. government? last time I checked Rite Aide, CVS, Longs all aren’t run by the government but all have these kinds of drugs.

  41. bigstorm says: May 1, 2010 1:45 PM

    Gee….
    If this was a Steelers story the entire the entire history of the team, every player, coach, and owner would be getting called out for being a sleaze or a cheater.
    Shows you the Saints are in the irrelevant sphere of fan interest.
    That being said, this story is horse shit. No way this has legs.

  42. Phinatic says: May 1, 2010 1:46 PM

    They should be stripped of the Championship due to everyone on the team being supplied Vicadone from the Head Coach.

  43. CaptainObvious says: May 1, 2010 1:49 PM

    ” Keep in mind that these are only allegations. ”
    Translation:
    There will be 6 to 8 stories about this every day, for the next 6 to 8 weeks, whether there’s anything new to report or not. (I’ll just make shit up as I go along to fan the flames)

  44. redsquare says: May 1, 2010 1:52 PM

    Of course, none of us remotely know the truth here.
    But, call me naive – if there’s no substance to the allegations, why would there have been settlement talks? Would the team be that afraid of a completely baseless charge?

  45. JohnnyH says: May 1, 2010 1:56 PM

    Ask anyone with even a casual association to the NFL and they’ll tell you Sean Payton is a World Class A-Hole. You’ve peaked, it’s all downhill from here douchebag.

  46. Vikes-N-Favre says: May 1, 2010 1:58 PM

    You Aint’s fans are retarded. Maybe that’s what happens when you cross dress on bourbon street all the time.
    You say the Vikings can’t beat you on opening night with a 40 year old QB that’s coming off of surgery? Lets break it down so even you retards can understand it.
    Not only did Favre miss all of TC and all practices last year, but he also came off of surgery on his THROWING SHOULDER and still had 33 TD’s to only 7 INT’s. He should be holding up the trophy right now and not that pussy ass cheap shot team of yours. They cheat on the field, and now they cheat off of it. What a bunch of losers the Aint’s and their retarded ass fan base are.

  47. Matt says: May 1, 2010 1:59 PM

    # Saints#12 says: May 1, 2010 12:39 PM
    if only allegations why run the story?
    **********************************************
    LOL – welcome to the real word of PFT, broseph. If anything about this story continues to leak in the slightest, prepare for a long, drawn-out annoying barrage of bullshit from people on here. Also, don’t expect anyone to give any benefit of the doubt.
    In reality, I would be happy if I were you. If one of several other teams had been implicated by this story (not going to provide a list of names here, of course), not only would Florio have exaggerated the entire thing to the umpteenth degree, but 200,000,000 obnoxious comments would have been registered by now from mindless fatasses sitting in their mother’s basements. Given the circumstances in question, this is nothing.

  48. Tampa Gator says: May 1, 2010 2:00 PM

    Jesus.
    If he posts the story without naming names, you’ll bitch and moan about how he needs to divulge the identities.
    If he posts the story and names the names, you moan about how its rumor mongering or slander.
    If he doesnt post anything, you’ll bitch about how he wasn’t on the story or how he was late to the party, a la ESPN.
    Nothing keeps some of you prissy little queens happy.

  49. Krow says: May 1, 2010 2:01 PM

    Fanboy explosion… *BOOM*

  50. 12thman says: May 1, 2010 2:02 PM

    Sean Payton = Ryan Leaf.

  51. MitchBergerSaysKissTheRingBitch says: May 1, 2010 2:02 PM

    This is why I shake my head when the people come down on bud smokers in the NFL. Maybe this doesn’t apply to Sean Payton but I wonder how many of these players become addicted to Vicodin and other potentially dangerous painkillers? Having seen how addictive and fatal painkillers can be first hand I actually feel bad. I mean, not only can you OD on painkillers but years of taking them can and will (if abused) destroy your insides. You can’t blame a player for wanting the pain to go away after getting beat to hell all season. Why not just let the players ease the pain with some Sticky Ricky instead? Sure painkillers are useful and certainly help when you are in absolutely excruciating pain but other than that, just go all natural. It’s much less damaging to the human body and non addictive.

  52. trickbunny says: May 1, 2010 2:04 PM

    Well, sure… but Ben Roethlisberger is a rapist.

  53. Saints#12 says: May 1, 2010 2:04 PM

    Because this is a “rumors” and news website, remember.VVVVVVVVVVV
    i realize that,i read it all the time!!!! But to come out an put two name in this report is BS,When no name’s were giving..

  54. Tim says: May 1, 2010 2:05 PM

    No way will a New Orleans jury convict the head coach of the almighty Saints of any wrong doing.

  55. Passrusher76 says: May 1, 2010 2:12 PM

    I love it. The Saints are all arrogant and full of themselves anyway. Gee Karma is a wonderful thing isn’t it?? Enjoy it Aints fans!!!! LOL!!

  56. Nola5712 says: May 1, 2010 2:12 PM

    Vikes-N-Fag
    we cheat on the field??? as someone else who just read your comment told me, “wow that loser must have no-trophy syndrome” baaaahahahahahaha just cause your team got the SHIT kicked out of em doesn’t mean we cheated. once again, the viQUEEN crybabies come out in full force.
    Mrsteve
    go watch pierre jump that line again, and if your vision isn’t THAT decrepit then you’ll see the ball cross the line of scrimmage. and as far as saints fans being bandwagon fans??? uhh…sorry pal that doesn’t exist down here, we loved em for 43 years of crappy sometimes halfway decent play and ALWAYS stuck by em. don’t get your BRENT favre thong in a wad because your team blew their chances with 8,000 turnovers. go listen to prince and cry away your no trophy syndrome like Vikes-N-Fag up there

  57. ECS - Brougham Boys 74 says: May 1, 2010 2:15 PM

    @Deb:
    Get over it. Your QB is a serial rapist, and unlike any of the other stories on this site, that one is not going away any time soon (if ever). You’re only making things worse by dragging it out into the daylight once again to try to defend your serial rapist hero.
    Nobody will ever forget Rapistberger’s spree of serial rape. And you can be sure that you will probably never hear the end of it. What makes me most happy about that situation is that you will spout the same bullsh*t over and over so many times, in some vain attempt to rescue your hero’s reputation, that eventually all your friends and family will get sick of hearing it and just stop hanging out with you. Then, you can live the rest of your lonely, miserable life defending Little Jen Rapistberger – a person who literally cares less about you than a glass of cold water.
    Could any justice be sweeter?

  58. Vet735 says: May 1, 2010 2:20 PM

    Vikes fans, Anything to restore that championship that should have been, but wasn’t and is unlikely to ever be. Are you guys helping this clown extort money from the Saints?
    Extortion is getting to be big stuff up in Minnesota. Right now, they are trying to extort a billion dollars out of the people by threatening to leave.

  59. jamaltimore says: May 1, 2010 2:22 PM

    Well that explains why Ryan Leaf was working on a comeback with the Saints!

  60. Leroy'sButler says: May 1, 2010 2:23 PM

    Brett Favre———->FAIL

  61. CaptainObvious says: May 1, 2010 2:23 PM

    # trickbunny says: May 1, 2010 2:04 PM
    “Well, sure… but Ben Roethlisberger is a rapist.”
    Cling to that Clowns fans… it’s all you got.

  62. realheavyd says: May 1, 2010 2:24 PM

    RE: “You Aint’s fans are retarded.”
    ——————————————
    What does that make you for stereo-typing an entire fan base of which you have probably never met one single person who represents it, anyway?
    Get a life Vikes-N-Favre!

  63. se18a29 says: May 1, 2010 2:30 PM

    Drug addict coach and staff. Cheating football team in the playoffs = tainted championship.

  64. Gautam says: May 1, 2010 2:32 PM

    I seriously hope that your source has a proven track record or a lawsuit & we may be looking the end of PFT.

  65. Leroy'sButler says: May 1, 2010 2:35 PM

    WAAAAAA … I live in Minnesota
    WAAAAAA … I’m a Vikings fan
    WAAAAAA … Brett Favre has an owie
    WAAAAAA … Our coach looks like a pedaphile
    WAAAAAA … Our owner looks like a Marx Brother
    WAAAAAA … Al Franken is our senator
    WAAAAAA … We play in a hefty bag
    WAAAAAA … The Vikes are moving to L.A.
    WAAAAAA … I’ll have to become a Packer fan
    WAAAAAA … I want my Mommy

  66. FinFan says: May 1, 2010 2:38 PM

    And ben still rapes girls…
    And dezs mommas still a hoebag

  67. realheavyd says: May 1, 2010 2:39 PM

    RE: “…a lawsuit & we may be looking the end of PFT.”
    ————————————————
    We can only hope so!!! I am so sick of reading the crap that this rag puts out after it’s plastered all over the headlines of my “New Orleans Saints” news updates from Google News every day…

  68. jg80fan says: May 1, 2010 2:39 PM

    You better hope to God that your sources are correct. Otherwise, I would advise Payton to sue you. It has become obvious that you are nothing more than the National Enquirer of the football world. You should take a lesson form Adam Schefter
    and Chris Mortensen. Class never goes out of style.

  69. stevea11 says: May 1, 2010 2:40 PM

    Let’s see….. Give me a pile of money or I will rat you out to the police. Last time I checked that was blackmale. Why not just give the police the information you have and let the courts decide.
    This douchbag has lost ALL his credability by demanding money for his silence. If Sean wants painkillers all he has to do is have the team doctor write him a script. It’s that simple.
    By the way, you Viqueens fans have as much a clue who your father is as who your quarterback is this year.
    I say bring back Farve so we can finish what we started last year. Knock his pansey ass out for good.

  70. Nuckinfutz says: May 1, 2010 2:45 PM

    This is a HUGE story!
    Florio………you better be right.
    If not…… a simple “sorry” won’t fix it. Your balls are sitting on the anvil with this one.

  71. joe6606 says: May 1, 2010 2:55 PM

    “Keep in mind that these are only allegations.”
    In the 3000+ Ben stories that you posted, how many times did you EVER say “Keep in mind that these are only allegations.”?
    NEVER
    Go F yourself Florio
    Start advocating an IMMEDIATE 8 game suspension

  72. Nuckinfutz says: May 1, 2010 2:56 PM

    Who Dat?
    Who Dat……tink dey gonna steal dem drugs?

  73. darrius_heyward-bey-butterfingers says: May 1, 2010 2:58 PM

    NEWSFLASH “DEB” – No one is making the “Big Ben just has bad luck and innocently finds himself in these situations” argument any more, not even in Pittsburgh. It is time to accept that your God Ben likes to force himself on women thinks of them all as bitches and ho’s. He is also a hundred-millionaire that doesn’t like to tip or pay for his own as well as his crews’ meals, drinks, cover charges, etc.

  74. realheavyd says: May 1, 2010 3:02 PM

    Why does it take so long for comments to get approved & finally show up on the website?

  75. se18a29 says: May 1, 2010 3:02 PM

    Leroy’sbuttpartner…
    Moron…

  76. Peak says: May 1, 2010 3:05 PM

    Sean, if you are taking Vicodin, you shouldn’t drink that you stole from Jerry Jones

  77. Fan of Football says: May 1, 2010 3:08 PM

    Are we still supposed to feel sorry for New Orleans because of Katrina? Somebody let me know. I know the NFL still does by fixing the NFCC game with not calling obvious roughing the passer calls and that horrible pass INT call in OT that kept the Aint’s from punting. Vikes turned the ball over 5 times and STILL should have beat them. That is how overrated the Aint’s team is. Luckily, they faced another overrated team in the SB.
    boo hooo, feel sorry for us because we built a city on the coast 6 feet below sea level in the middle of Hurricane Alley. boo hoo, feel sorry for us because we ignored the NWS who gave us FIVE DAYS warning that a cat 5 was heading right towards us. boo hoo, feel sorry for us because our state and local government were incompetent. No wonder America is so sick of NO and its whiny people.

  78. Fan of Football says: May 1, 2010 3:10 PM

    Q: Why did the Dow Jones close up 200 points the day Hurricane Katrina hit
    A: They figured the unemployment rate would go down.

  79. stadanko says: May 1, 2010 3:11 PM

    No wonder Viking fans come out in full force on PFT.
    They love to make things up and repeat them over and over again.
    Sound familiar?

  80. HandsofSweed says: May 1, 2010 3:15 PM

    @ECS Brougham:
    You try and you try. But nothing you will ever say will change the fact that Ben was never arrested, charged, tried or convicted of anything. Ever. So add your opinion to that glass of cold water and you have a grand total of a glass of cold water. You may not like it, but you have to live with the results of the investigation.
    Go ahead. Fight back. Insult me and anyone you like until your heart is content. Nothing will change. Ben will still be a free man and you and I will both have to accept it. We will both still be assholes, too.
    Enjoy that glass of cold water.

  81. Fan of Football says: May 1, 2010 3:25 PM

    Q: Which part of New Orleans was the first to surrender to the Hurricane Katrina flood waters?
    A: The French Quarter.

  82. Zaggs says: May 1, 2010 3:26 PM

    Any bests on one of the receipts of the drugs was Shockey?

  83. 56lightsout56 says: May 1, 2010 3:30 PM

    whoa, Sean Payton has something in common with……choke….gag…….Ryan Leaf…………..:P

  84. realheavyd says: May 1, 2010 3:31 PM

    RE: “Are we still supposed to feel sorry for New Orleans because of Katrina? Somebody let me know. I know the NFL still does by fixing the NFCC game with not calling obvious roughing the passer calls and that horrible pass INT call in OT that kept the Aint’s from punting. Vikes turned the ball over 5 times and STILL should have beat them. That is how overrated the Aint’s team is. Luckily, they faced another overrated team in the SB.
    boo hooo, feel sorry for us because we built a city on the coast 6 feet below sea level in the middle of Hurricane Alley. boo hoo, feel sorry for us because we ignored the NWS who gave us FIVE DAYS warning that a cat 5 was heading right towards us. boo hoo, feel sorry for us because our state and local government were incompetent. No wonder America is so sick of NO and its whiny people.”
    _________________________________
    SERIOUSLY, LISTEN TO YOURSELF!!!
    Who’s doing the whining here anyway?
    Boo hoo, we all feel sorry for you because your team can’t seem to put itself into position to win a Super Bowl to save their own lives…
    You’re the one who is claiming that the NFL rigged the NFCC Game to “let the Saints win it”, right?
    What kind of sympathy are you after anyway?
    Grow up already, so-called Fan of Football!!!

  85. purpleguy says: May 1, 2010 3:33 PM

    Word has it Payton stole the drugs for Lord Favre’s ankle owie and to ease Rothlisberger’s emotional trauma.
    How ironic, Leroy’s Butler whining about Viking fans whining about an article not involving the Pack. What’s the matter Leroy, did you spill custard on your Aaron Rodgers footie PJs?

  86. realheavyd says: May 1, 2010 3:35 PM

    Wrong answer to your own posed question, Fan of Football.
    It just goes to show how ignorant you really are…

  87. Nola5712 says: May 1, 2010 3:36 PM

    here’s the real joke, vikings are 0-4 in the superbowl baaaaaahahahahahahaha keep on crying queens fans, it’s just music to my ears :D

  88. realheavyd says: May 1, 2010 3:39 PM

    FYI: The French Quarter stayed mostly high and dry because it is some of the highest ground in the entire city of New Orleans.
    Somebody take this obnoxious kid away from the computer in his parents’ basement please!

  89. Matt says: May 1, 2010 3:50 PM

    # ECS – Brougham Boys 74 says: May 1, 2010 2:15 PM
    @Deb:
    Get over it. Your QB is a serial rapist, and unlike any of the other stories on this site, that one is not going away any time soon (if ever). You’re only making things worse by dragging it out into the daylight once again to try to defend your serial rapist hero.
    Nobody will ever forget Rapistberger’s spree of serial rape. And you can be sure that you will probably never hear the end of it. What makes me most happy about that situation is that you will spout the same bullsh*t over and over so many times, in some vain attempt to rescue your hero’s reputation, that eventually all your friends and family will get sick of hearing it and just stop hanging out with you. Then, you can live the rest of your lonely, miserable life defending Little Jen Rapistberger – a person who literally cares less about you than a glass of cold water.
    Could any justice be sweeter?
    ******************************************
    Dude, I’d be the last one to openly stick up for Roethlisberger, but you have no room to be running your mouth at this point. You sit there and talk about people spouting off about the same bullshit over and over again – right. I’m all about joking with people on PFT, mostly because people get too worked up and partly because rivalries within divisions are fun (speaking of which, aren’t you a fan of the Seahawks, of all teams?). It’s the kind of bullshit that you pull that makes coming on these boards borderline intolerable for people who are actually interested in and want to read about football. You act like a child.
    On a related note – What’s up with your little pissy attitude? Was your dad a Steelers fan that abandoned your mother to raise you alone, or … ? Just curious.

  90. philwauke says: May 1, 2010 3:51 PM

    How many times has favre been to rehab? Twice… And for what? Vicodin. Suck it vikings fans.

  91. Fan of Football says: May 1, 2010 3:51 PM

    Q. How do you get thousands of poor people out of New Orleans before a flood?
    A. you don’t

  92. Truman says: May 1, 2010 3:51 PM

    Fan of Football…
    the quarter was dry during and after the storm…you need to get over the NFC title game. In fact, just stop watching football. The vikings will NEEEVEEEER and I mean EEEEEEVVVEEER win a super bowl.
    NEVER

  93. Mrsteve says: May 1, 2010 3:54 PM

    They were stopped on 4th & 1, you know it.
    Everybody knows it.
    Saints still won, good job.
    You are wrong about not being a bandwagon bitch though.
    Stadiums near empty. People wearing bags on their heads.
    Who Dat. Dat the Saints fans.
    Oh yeah, don’t say we. You weren’t on the team.

  94. robert ethan says: May 1, 2010 3:55 PM

    The Wrath of Favre shall smite you, Tainted Saints. Verily. Forever Tarred as the Thugs and Felons you are.
    Big Sleazy, stinking fetid oil slick of a town.

  95. Jim says: May 1, 2010 3:55 PM

    I’m not a Saints fan by any means, but to me, this is just another horseshit hit piece from Florio because he’s a bitter ViQueens fan.
    Jerk.

  96. Ska4Life says: May 1, 2010 3:56 PM

    Wow, if true, this is pretty serious.
    Of course the GM is going to play it off as “some crazy dude who resigned (we fired because he would not go along with the cover up) is now blackmailing us with ridiculous sums of money (negotiations did not go well) with these false (true) charges.”
    I wonder who has the problem? Going as far as to steal from team facilities is a pretty serious problem. You’d think they’d be able to afford it, though….
    I guess the Saints did a little too much partying after winning the Superbowl.

  97. Deb says: May 1, 2010 3:56 PM

    ECS – Brougham Boys 74 …
    Do you think I actually associate with people like you off-line?? ROFL My friends and family–including fans of rival teams–are intelligent, well-informed people. Other than the criminal lawyers in my circle, who know from the evidence that no one was raped, I’ve only discussed Roethlisberger with three friends–none of them Steelers fans. We ALL agree that Ben is an idiot and that those women should be jailed for making false rape claims.
    Only dimwits like you ignore investigative evidence and rant about “Rapistberger.” Normal people are capable of rational thinking regardless of their team allegiance.
    @darrius_heyward-bey-butterfingers …
    NEWSFLASH: The evidence hasn’t changed, so my position hasn’t changed. I’m not a politician or football commissioner and don’t shape my views based on popular thinking. As I’ve said many times, Ben is a jerk. I hope this suspension makes him reflect on his rude behavior toward fans and change his character. But none of that has anything to do with rape. He isn’t guilty of rape because no rapes occurred.
    The only God I worship reigns in heaven.

  98. mallet21 says: May 1, 2010 3:57 PM

    Hilarious !! A year ago you couldn’t pay a Taints fan to post on this MB and now they are out in force.

  99. Ska4Life says: May 1, 2010 3:59 PM

    BTW TomBrookshire has it right…there’s a whole dark side to the NFL that we don’t get to see.

  100. PRLA says: May 1, 2010 4:07 PM

    If two-thirds of you moronic turdburglars and the head burglar himself, Florio, knew anything about the federal court system, a trial can be moved to another district. It does not have to be tried in New Orleans.
    Oh, and what about the king of Vicodin himself, Grandpa? So Viqueen fans don’t even go there.
    Fan of Football…you have no clue as to the areas of New Orleans that flooded. The French Quarter went untouched! So keep your mouth shut, dumbass!

  101. DarthBrady says: May 1, 2010 4:08 PM

    Fan of Football:
    “Q: Which part of New Orleans was the first to surrender to the Hurricane Katrina flood waters?
    A: The French Quarter.”
    Pretty good joke for someone who has never had to identify the bloated, green blob that used to be their mother.
    You, and all the other people who make jokes about that event are pathetic.
    Some people still can close their eyes and see the disgusting, grotesque corpse of their loved one as clear as the day it happened.
    You think roadkill smells bad?
    This smell, it NEVER goes away.
    I will smell it until the day I die.

  102. philwauke says: May 1, 2010 4:09 PM

    The French quarter wasn’t touched you stupid Shit.

  103. Just Drew It! says: May 1, 2010 4:09 PM

    @Fan of Football
    bitter much? How can you say the Colts and Saints are overrated when:
    1. They had better regular season records
    2. Both stopped playing and lost the last 3 games of the season and still had a better record than the vikings.
    3. They both made the Super Bowl
    4. They DID NOT commit 5 turnovers when it counted.
    Your team/quarterback choked when it counted. Stop crying and hope for better this year. Though it will be after an 0-1 start I promise.

  104. njt21937 says: May 1, 2010 4:16 PM

    I’ve never heard fans cry more than the Vikings fans. You got unlucky and got beat. Get over it; it happens to everyone. Tell your quarterback to pay more attention to where he throws the ball and you wouldn’t have lost the game.

  105. Who is Mike Jones says: May 1, 2010 4:17 PM

    Hey Fan of Football- That’s written like a sore loser. News Flash for you- The hurricane had nothing to do with Drew Brees running your defense into the ground and your running back coughing up the football in open space and your “Viked” out QB throwing jump balls.
    Which retard on PFT wants to turn the Saints SB victory into a political discussion about a hurricane?
    A-The little whinny baby using the screen name Fan of Football!

  106. Jeff says: May 1, 2010 4:32 PM

    Fan of Football,
    Please give us a link proving that New Orleans is six feet below sea level, or SHUT THE F**K UP, you freaking douchebag.

  107. PerchSports says: May 1, 2010 4:50 PM

    I’ve experienced first hand what the use of opiates can do to a person. Some people use it for recreation, to achieve a high. Others have found the use of opiates to enhance mental and physical performance. In my experiences, I am 100% convinced that using opitates allow some to not only feel the “euphoric” high from the drug, it literally enhanced the brain to process information much quicker. I’m no psychologist, or scientist or any other professional hypothesis maker. I have, however, spent hours upon hours reliving my personal experiences and am totally convinced that the use of opiates can have a brain-altering effect that allows information to enter the brain, go thru the problem solving process and conclusions/decisions be made at a much faster, and most of the time, much more intelligent rate.

  108. PerchSports says: May 1, 2010 5:05 PM

    I’m a former D II QB who loves the game more than life itself, absolutely admires QB Drew Brees and the entire Saints organization. I’m a die hard Browns fan, but when they left I chose to follow New Orleans and have loved them since. I’m not in any way saying that Payton did use the drug, just saying what I experienced while playing the game I love and working in the professional sales field. Brett Favre admitted his use of the drug during one (or two?) of his MVP seasons. Although he never admitted the use enhanced any of his abilities, I would probably conclude that it not only took away his pain from the physical abuse, it may have had the mental effect I mentioned above.

  109. bigstorm says: May 1, 2010 5:11 PM

    Matt on ECS…..
    No Matt….ECS lost $5 on SB XL when the shithawks and their “superior offense” completely shit the bed and had their asses had to them.
    Now out the $5, ECS is pulling all nighters at a Starbucks in the ‘burbs and everyone has to hear his hate and stupidity every day.
    It is that sad.

  110. Passrusher76 says: May 1, 2010 5:22 PM

    You saw a bloated green blob? I think that would qualify as Rex Ryan.

  111. Cannon says: May 1, 2010 5:55 PM

    SEAN PAYTON HAS THE FACE OF A DRAG QUEEN. Lol. Aints fans this question is for you: Does Sean Payton wear guy liner and lip gloss during post game interviews?? I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to skeletons in Payton’s closet.

  112. Kay Bee says: May 1, 2010 5:59 PM

    Hilarious !! A year ago you couldn’t pay a Taints fan to post on this MB and now they are out in force.
    -_______________________________
    We were busy celebrating our Super Bowl run.

  113. dlmcc0909 says: May 1, 2010 6:09 PM

    Running stories like this and blowing it up in the media, is EXACTLY why morons continue to make ridiculous allegations against high profile targets. This guy clearly wanted a payout because he didnt like being let go. And by you posting this stuff and other media sites running it, you continue to allow this kind of thing to go on. People wouldnt make false claims against high profile athletes if the media would wait to find facts before running a story. We are way too lawsuit and payout happy in this country its just pathetic.

  114. Highway703 says: May 1, 2010 6:18 PM

    Great this stupid story will be on this website for months who cares!!!!!!

  115. Kay Bee says: May 1, 2010 6:31 PM

    SEAN PAYTON HAS THE FACE OF A DRAG QUEEN. Lol. Aints fans this question is for you: Does Sean Payton wear guy liner and lip gloss during post game interviews?? I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to skeletons in Payton’s closet.
    —————————————————-
    The Lombardi Trophy is sitting at the top of his closet.

  116. pghsteve says: May 1, 2010 7:30 PM

    I would just like to welcome all the Saints fans to the wonderful world of rude comments, put downs, New Orleans jokes, bad puns, sick jokes, idiotic comments, asinine and inane comments, etc., that Steelers fans have been experiencing since the Big Ben story broke back in March. Big Ben is certainly a moron, maybe a criminal, and Sean Payton might be one or both or neither, but it won’t matter. Stories like this just provide an opportunity for losers to pile on the fans of winning teams. Notice all of the comments asserting that the Saints cheated their way to the SB. Savor your Vince Lombardi trophy, and may you win many more (so long as it is not against the Steelers.)

  117. realheavyd says: May 1, 2010 7:38 PM

    “I have reviewed Geoff Santini’s lawsuit and the unwarranted publicity it has received,” Payton said in the statement. “I have never abused or stolen Vicodin or any other medication and I fully support the Saints’ position in this matter as expressed by Greg Bensel yesterday.”
    Payton is not named in the lawsuit, but sources have confirmed that he is the one referred to as “Senior Staff Member A,” who allegedly was recorded as having been dispensed a large number of Vicodin pills despite having no medical condition.
    Payton is not accused of being involved with the theft of any medication.
    Vitt, who is referred to as “Senior Staff Member B” was allegedly caught on hidden camera as having stolen Vicodin pills from a locked drug cabinet. Vitt was also recorded as having been dispensed a large number of Vicodin pills, though he apparently had an undisclosed painful medical condition.
    http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/05/new_orleans_saints_coach_sean_75.html

  118. realheavyd says: May 1, 2010 7:41 PM

    RE: “I would just like to welcome all the Saints fans to the wonderful world of rude comments, put downs, New Orleans jokes, bad puns, sick jokes, idiotic comments, asinine and inane comments, etc., that Steelers fans have been experiencing since the Big Ben story broke back in March. Big Ben is certainly a moron, maybe a criminal, and Sean Payton might be one or both or neither, but it won’t matter. Stories like this just provide an opportunity for losers to pile on the fans of winning teams. Notice all of the comments asserting that the Saints cheated their way to the SB. Savor your Vince Lombardi trophy, and may you win many more (so long as it is not against the Steelers.)”
    ————————————————–
    Thanks for the well wishes pgsteve, and I feel for you regarding the Big Ben crap that is all over the news right now as well.
    I hope your team gets back to their winning ways too, but not at the expense of my Saints, of course!
    Peace bro!
    D

  119. Beast Of The East says: May 1, 2010 8:21 PM

    Florio- I remember the time when which now seems like so long ago when this site was about supplying die hard football fans that were going through off season withdrawals with something to fill the void. Now look at what it has become. Look at some of the classy folks that are now on this site.
    Fan Of Football is literally a waste of space. His name should be fan of hate. Obviously he is just one example of hundreds of people that get you all the clicks you want for those advertising dollars.
    What I honestly feel you started as a passion and love for football has taken a dramatic turn for what I cannot quite describe.
    So keep on writing your articles in a way to attract the type of people you now have roaming this site and forget the love and passion of football.
    Congratulations Florio, you are the new gossip King to go along with Joan Rivers. I cannot believe you took what could have been the greatest football site ever and turned into a TMZ. And for what? A buck.

  120. realheavyd says: May 1, 2010 9:47 PM

    RE: I would just like to welcome all the Saints fans to the wonderful world of rude comments, put downs, New Orleans jokes, bad puns, sick jokes, idiotic comments, asinine and inane comments, etc., that Steelers fans have been experiencing since the Big Ben story broke back in March.
    ————————————————–
    Truth be known, Saints fans have endured similar “rude comments, put downs, New Orleans jokes, bad puns, sick jokes, idiotic comments, asinine and inane comments, etc.” to these for all 40+ years that New Orleans has fielded a pro football team and it took finally winning a SB to stop most of those from coming in with the exception of a more than just a few bad apples amongst Vikings and Colts fans so far this year!
    Sadly enough, it will most likely take them winning several more in a row before the majority of these idiots stop trying to put down this winner of a team. If this is the cost of becoming a winner in the NFL, I believe that we as Saints fans can certainly handle ourselves quite well through it all after all that we have endured over these many, many years so far already…
    Thanks again for your kind words Mr. pghsteve!

  121. banikane says: May 1, 2010 9:53 PM

    Sean seems like a nice guy, but every time I see him on the sidelines on sunday he looks like he’s on drugs. I’ve been on oxycotin(similar vicodin) for about 10 yrs for chronic pain from failed partial spine replacement surgery. I know what that look is. Sean has it, I’ve felt that way for last couple of years and this confirms it for me. Hope it’s not true for him, he’s f**k’d if it is.

  122. SimplytheBest says: May 1, 2010 11:56 PM

    Wow, this is my first visit to this site and I must say I surely was not expecting such childish remarks by NFL intelligent fans, but here we are clear as day, one moron after moron (see I can do it too). This is very sad to know really.
    Anyway, to those Saints haters and the sick and tired of New Orleans fans, this is just something that you just have to stick your chest out and take the bullet on, we “The New Orleans Saints”, football team and fan base globewide OWN THE TITLE OF CHAMPION for this year, you nor anyone else can EVER change that, you may not like it, you may not agree with it, but you cannot ignore something that is a plain and simple FACT OF LIFE! Now about this story of drug theft and abuse.
    Don’t you people see that the former employee went to the Saints for a big pay day and they refused to play ball with him, that’s the entire gist of this situation. Hear me out here.
    For one thing if ANY of this was true and could be proven, the this Santini guy would be a very rich man today and living on some tropical island having the time of his life, because I guarantee you that there is no way on this planet that Tom Benson would allow any team or organization that he owns be labled as drug users and abusers and petty thieves for said drugs, he would have given this guy a salary for life and we would have never heard a word of this ever.
    But that’s not what happened, what happened was this Santini guy went to the Saints with some half baked story about evidence that he didn’t have and the Saints knew he was lying, therefore when he requested big bucks, they flat out told him to take a hike, go public with whatever he thinks he has, because they know the true facts and nothing he claims can truly hurt them in the end.
    Of course some of you will say, wait, they were still going to discuss it with him just before he went public, so why would they do that and the simple answer is that paying something comparable to the waves he could cause with just an accusation, it may have been easier on the team in the long run to pay him a pittance and be done with the matter altoghether, but it appears he demanded way, way or as Greg Bensel put it and “exorbinant” amount of money to remain silent, that’s when they Saints cut him off altogether and told him give it your best shot, but we know the facts and we ain’t got nothing to hide, sure we’ll have the initial wave of oooh’s and aaaaah’s (which is what you are doing right now) but it will all be resolved in our favor as we truly have nothing to hide and that is what will ultimately come out with this entire ordeal.
    Trust me, Benson would not allow drugs to become a part of the Saints vocabulary, if he has anything to say about it, but when you’ve done nothing wrong, sometimes you have ride out the rapids to reach the calm of the lake to relax on.

  123. The Upsetter says: May 2, 2010 9:51 AM

    Sean Payton will be cleared of any wrong doing and Mike Florio will look like a fool once again.
    Viking fans, I’m glad to see that NFC Championship still eats a away at your soul. I hope that feeling never goes away.
    Fan of Football, although I’m sure you’re thrilled with all the attention you’re getting, you need a punch in the face to help get some perspective. Florio, you should censor Fan of Football. Him alone helps bring your website to new mind boggling lows.
    Saints are champs and Sean Payton is my idol, all haters can go to hell.

  124. seatofmypants says: May 2, 2010 11:19 AM

    I am not a fan of “Fan of Football”, nor do i support anything he says, but here is some info from Wikipedia about New Orleans:
    A recent study by Tulane and Xavier University notes that 51% of New Orleans is at or above sea level, with the more densely populated areas generally on higher ground. The average elevation of the city is currently between one and two feet (0.5 m) below sea level, with some portions of the city as high as 16 feet (5 m) at the base of the river levee in Uptown and others as low as 10 feet (3 m) below sea level in the farthest reaches of Eastern New Orleans.[37]

  125. SayItAin'tSoFlorio says: May 2, 2010 12:03 PM

    SimplytheBest:
    Did you actually read the lawsuit, or did you just make some assumptions based on Florio’s posts?
    It would be hard to state that there isn’t any evidence of wrongdoing, if you read the lawsuit. There are videotapes of one of the coaches (Joe Vitt) using the head trainer’s key to get into the drug locker at the Saints facility and steal the Vicodin, and not just one time.
    There are also implications from two of the trainers (including the head trainer) and one of the team doctors that Sean Payton received some of the Vicodin tablets from Vitt. Not proof perhaps, but pretty revealing. All of that could and would be argued in court, if it comes down to it.
    As for Benson not knowing about the issue, he was informed in meetings with the GM, Santini, etc. One of the allegations from Santini is that the GM (Loomis) lied to Benson about Payton having a medical condition requiring painkillers.
    BTW, that “Santini guy” you refer to spent over 30 years in the FBI before he took a job with the Saints. Benson hired him in ’00, so I assume he has/had some trust in his work. I read somewhere that one of his most important cases involved Edwin Edwards, the ex-gov of Louisiana, who is now in federal prison in Texas. That might give him some credibility. Maybe not for you, but it works for me.
    I’m not a lawyer (I’ll leave that to Florio), but, on the surface, it appears that there are a lot of potential candidates that could be in trouble. Payton, Vitt, Loomis, the team doctor (Amoss), the head trainer (Patton), one of the assistant trainers (Magnum or Mangum, spelled both ways in the document) and perhaps even Santini. Who knows? According to the lawsuit, NFL security and the local Attorney General are aware of the case, so I’m sure they’ll have a lot to say about where this whole thing leads.
    As he states, Florio will keep us all apprised, even if we don’t want to be.

  126. Deb says: May 2, 2010 3:58 PM

    @SayItAin’tSoFlorio …
    Okay, I’ll admit it: I haven’t read the suit. I’m a Steelers fan and have been listening to full-length press conferences and reading complaints, witness statements, and investigative reports until my eyes are crossing. Don’t have time to delve into another one. But now I’m confused. Florio said Vitt and Payton were not named in the suit. Now you’re saying they were named in the suit.
    I’m not interested in implications. Were they explicitly named in the suit, or not?

  127. SayItAin'tSoFlorio says: May 2, 2010 6:35 PM

    Deb: No they were not explicitly named in the lawsuit. It was “reported” by the New Orleans Times-Picayune. I don’t know who their sources were, but the newspaper insists that the two unnamed suspects are Payton (SSMA in the lawsuit) and Vitt (SSMB). So Florio was not wrong in reporting what he did at the time of his post. However, he later identified the names, based on what he had heard and/or read.
    This isn’t a Roethlisberger case, where there was no videotape of the actual event in the bar in Milledgeville. In this case, there was videotape of the culprit taking the Vicodin from the drug locker in a training room office. We can argue whether the two coaches should be named at this point or not, but all indications are that it was Vitt. Somebody would owe a huge apology to Vitt if the videotape identification is wrong, but I doubt if that is the case.
    I agree with you that “implications” are not evidence of anything, and the lawsuit is certainly a one-sided document. Everyone is entitled to the presumption of innocence.

  128. Deb says: May 2, 2010 10:09 PM

    @SayItAin’tSoFlorio …
    Thanks for the info–and for presenting it so well. Yes, I was preparing to hop back onto that well-worn soapbox :-) But crusading is … wearying. I was able to argue the Roethlisberger cases with such vehemence because I did a lot of research and am confident about my findings. Work deadlines won’t permit me to devote that much time to anything on PFT over the next few weeks. Have to put my little nose back to the grindstone.
    This whole thing still bothers me, though. If there’s irrefutable evidence, there should be a criminal investigation. I question anything coming out of a lawsuit–especially filed by a guy who’s already tried to shake down the team. If the video only shows Vitt, the plaintiff may be implicating Payton simply to raise the stakes. And if Vitt has a chronic condition and was stealing Vicodin, he needs help, not harassment.

  129. SayItAin'tSoFlorio says: May 2, 2010 10:55 PM

    Deb:
    It is supposedly being investigated on several fronts (NFL, AG, DEA, local law enforcement) but nothing has been done as of yet. To me, that says something, but could also mean nothing. A couple of those agencies take their time before they make a decision to indict or not.
    The plaintiff’s lawyer has a good rep but I noticed (Google) that he is also representing a New Orleans suburban sleazeball ex-politician. It could be that the attorney decided that the plaintiff should ask for a lot of money (hence the “shakedown), figuring that he could always come down in his asking price to settle. That’s fairly common in civil cases, especially in a case with an NFL team involved. It still looks bad for the plaintiff though.

  130. amusedbyeveryone says: May 3, 2010 2:48 AM

    Deb says:
    May 1, 2010 1:27 PM
    Oh for crying out loud!
    You may not be a criminal lawyer, but you have a law degree and can read witness statements and investigative reports. You know as well as I do that no one raped either Andrea McNulty or that woman in Georgia
    ——————————————————–
    Deb, I, too, read the witness statements from the Georgia case and wonder how you can so confidently state the “You know as well as I do that no one raped…that woman in Georgia.”
    Can you point to anything in the witness statements that conclusively proves “that woman in Georgia” consented to the sex?
    She says she didn’t. She went DIRECTLY to the cops. Only her and Roethilsberger were in that locked bathroom (and Roethilsberger’s “bodyguards” prevented “that woman’s” friends from intervening).
    So, I just have to ask, how in the world can you so confidently claim that no one (ie, Roethisberger) didn’t rape her.
    Since you claim to be so familiar with the reports and witness statements, please enlighten me as to the evidence of consent.

  131. jonjonphenom says: May 3, 2010 6:54 AM

    Fan of Football,
    Were you gang raped in New Orleans or something? You seem like a bitter old man in regard to the great city.

  132. Gregjennings85 says: May 3, 2010 9:16 AM

    “Well, heck. My jeans are bit muddier ‘en usual, but that aint nuthin’ a vicodin can’t fix…(mumph). Mmmm. That sizzle lets you know it’s working.”
    -Brett Favre (circa 2002)

  133. Deb says: May 3, 2010 12:51 PM

    @amusedbyeveryone …
    Okay, you asked …
    I know Roethlisberger didn’t rape her for several reasons, but the first would be because the finding of the pelvic exam was that she didn’t have intercourse. The slight vaginal bruising and bleeding could have been caused by different activity. There was no semen or evidence of a condom. No intercourse = no sex = no rape. The issue of consent doesn’t come into play.
    In addition …
    According the DA, she was out of sight only 10 minutes. Taking her statement, she went to the bathroom, headed back, met Roethlisberger, became engaged in sexual activity in the hallway, wound up on the floor, got up, went into the bathroom, he followed, locked the door, she protested, he ignored her, both of them became disengaged from their clothing to the degree that intercourse was possible, they had intercourse, he left without saying a word, she fixed her clothing, and followed. All in 10 minutes. And if the bodyguard were blocking the doorway, where was he standing when they were rolling around the floor in the hallway?
    According to the DA, Ben ejected a sorority sister from the VIP room. It has since been reported she was ragging him about the Nevada rape accusation. The DA said she tried to get back into the VIP room but Ben’s bodyguard was blocking the way. She and another sorority sister said their friend was too drunk to be at the party. The bodyguard wouldn’t relent. The club owner told the DA they complained to him. He showed them how to bypass the guard and check on their friend. He told the DA they did not bother to go.
    Those two women are the ones who dragged the accuser to the police and insisted Ben had raped her. The accuser told police and hospital personnel she had not been raped. They are the ones who took her to the police station the next day when she changed her story to say she had been raped–even though the pelvic exam said otherwise. They are the only witnesses saying the bodyguard blocked the bathroom.
    At the end of his 71-minute press conference, the DA said that if Ben were his son, he’d tell him to stop acting like an idiot. But he made a point of saying there was plenty of blame to go around and he hoped Ben and the accuser and the sorority sisters had learned a lesson. When asked if Ben was welcome back in Milledgeville, he said sure, if he keeps his nose clean. Those are not the comments of a prosecutor who believes a rapist is getting away for lack of evidence. No charges were filed because the investigation showed no crime was committed.

  134. BigEasy says: May 3, 2010 9:16 PM

    The only thing S. Payton is hooked on is “Juicy Fruit” gum…
    Allegations by a disgruntled former employee who demanded 2 mil or he was going public…wow…that’s def on the up and up.
    Seriously, move along people….in other news….

  135. amusedbyeveryone says: May 4, 2010 1:20 AM

    @Deb
    One more thing, “no rape” does NOT mean “no sexual assualt.”

  136. supersaints45 says: May 4, 2010 6:53 AM

    This is a non-story. The ex chief wanted money from the Saints, they refused, so now he files a civil suit. If he was so concerned about the law, he would have contacted the dea, fbi, or whoever long ago. To you ViQueen fans: Your team LOST! Get over it. You people should be thanking the Saints for saving you the embarrassment of losing another Super Bowl. Super Bowl titles: Saints 1 ViQueens 0. One other thing, if true, we’re talking about 130 pills over 4 months, which is about 30 a month between 2 people. That is not abuse. If you want an example of abuse, look at your beloved Mr. Favre. He was taking in 1 day, what the Saints people are accused of taking in 1 month. Can’t wait to the Saints kick the s.h.i.t out of the Queens on 9-9-10.

  137. DAS says: May 4, 2010 10:33 AM

    Just to let everyone know, the Saints organization turned over the information of these allegations to the DEA almost a year ago. If they had something to hide, please tell me, would they do that? No.
    And to the Dumbass(FAN) of Football
    I’m sure the French knew it was “Hurricane Alley” in 1718 when they founded the city…
    Child please.

  138. Deb says: May 4, 2010 1:34 PM

    @amusedbyeveryone …
    Thanks for the clarification. You must be new. I’m a rape survivor, so I’m aware of the distinctions. I was sober, fought like crazy, and didn’t need 13 hours and the help of two sorority sisters to decide what happened to me.
    Now, here’s the thing: She alleged vaginal rape. She didn’t allege digital rape, oral rape, or some other manner of assault. She alleged vaginal rape. The DA said he wanted to be clear: That was the allegation and that’s the crime they were investigating. And that crime didn’t occur. So there’s a major credibility gap. What she says happened, according to the medical evidence, did not happen.
    In addition, multiple witnesses say she followed him from bar to bar, pinching him and behaving provocatively to get his attention. The DA said once they were at the club, they were engaged in MUTUAL sexual conversation and conduct. The DA said it was two-way, him to her and her to him but he wouldn’t go into the “salacious” details. We know from multiple witnesses she was wearing a DTF pin and when asked what it meant, she told him she was “down to f–k.”
    So … the vaginal rape she alleged did not occur. Whatever contact did occur, did not include semen. Those two things we know from the medical exam. Whatever happened took less than 10 minutes. We know that from multiple witnesses. And based on multiple witness accounts of her behavior all evening, what happened between them was consensual.
    You don’t like Ben Roethlisberger and/or the Steelers. I get that. I don’t like that he’s been behaving like an entitled frat boy. I don’t like that he’s reportedly disrespected fans. I don’t like that when he should have been keeping a low profile because of the other case pending, he was out in a Satan t-shirt getting loaded, buying mega-rounds for bimbos, and fooling around in nightclub bathrooms. But he’s not a sexual abuser. That’s something I take very seriously. He’s a big, dumb oaf … but he’s not a rapist.

  139. Deb says: May 4, 2010 2:29 PM

    @amusedbyeveryone …
    I was taking your posts as a genuine request for information … then I saw your attack on another thread. So I’m in love with Ben and I’m a dude, yada yada yada? And you’re another junior-high student. My mistkae. Here’s my reply, in case you missed it:
    amusedbyeveryone says: @deb you consistently distort and falsely characterize the facts
    *No, I don’t. Just because you don’t like the facts, doesn’t mean I’ve distorted them.
    1) The truth is that GBI report says they found male DNA. If that wasn’t semen, what was it ?)
    *DNA is the genetic material found in nearly all forms of life; it can be used to distinguish one human from another. Semen is thick, white material ejaculated by men during sex. DNA is not semen. DNA can be found in semen as well as in hair, skin, saliva, and other substances. It takes only a miniscule amount of DNA to identify a specific person. The amount of male DNA found on the accuser was so infinitesimal it could not be tested for ID. The amount of semen produced by ejaculation or even during withdrawal would have been enough to test for identification.
    2) you say “that woman” (who is probably better referred to as a girl since she was only 20
    *She was a 20-year-old woman. The DA in his press conference described her as “20 and a half.” The legal drinking age there is 21. I know 20-year-olds who are married with children.
    The fact is that from the very beginning she consistently maintained that Ben R. sexually assaulted her. She never changed her story
    *Absolutely not true. When asked by police officers if she was raped, she said no. When asked if she’d had sex, she said no. When asked by hospital personnel if she’d been raped, she said no. Later, she said she was “kinda raped.” The next day she came into the station and gave a statement saying she had been raped. The medical exam disputes that statement.
    3) by your own admission there was vaginal bruising and bleeding. “no rape” does NOT mean “no sexual assault.”
    *Yes, something else could have happened. But she NEVER alleged digital rape, oral rape, or any other type of assault. The allegation was vaginal rape. And the medical exam shows no vaginal rape occurred. What she says happened did not happen.
    Your mischaracterzations go on and on
    *I haven’t mischaracterized anything. You have misrepresented the facts and my comments. I thought you were a serious poster asking for information, which I took time to provide. Instead, you’re just another junior-high idiot carrying on that: YOU’RE IN LOVE WITH BEN. YOU’RE MAKING IT UP. YOU’RE A DUDE. NO ONE SHOULD BELIEVE YOU.
    No, I’m a rape survivor, a writer and researcher with a journalism degree who used to report in a country that didn’t have due process, and the sister and sister-in-law of criminal defense attorneys. I took the time to research the case because it mattered to me whether someone I’d cheered for six years had raped someone. And it mattered to me whether someone was being wrongfully accused. Unlike you, I take this stuff seriously. You’re just another rival fan–but more of a pig than most.

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