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Prostitution appears to be at heart of Lawrence Taylor's legal troubles

Though the details are still emerging regarding the arrest of Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor for allegedly raping a 15-year-old runaway, it appears for now that his legal troubles flow from a prostitution purchase gone awry.

As MDS pointed out earlier today, Taylor is accused of raping a 15-year-old runaway who was “controlled by a pimp.”  It could be, then, that Taylor was simply attempting to purchase sex, and that the guy he called produced an underage girl.  It doesn’t excuse Taylor’s behavior; indeed, it’s an example of yet another potential consequence of the practice of paying prostitutes.  If the prostitute hasn’t reached the legal age of consent, the buyer also has bought a major problem.

And while Taylor’s multiple prior run-ins with the law did not involve any alleged crimes of this nature, he has boasted about a habit of ordering prostitutes for football opponents before a key game.  “You know what they like and what type of women they like and you just
call the service.  What you got?” Taylor told 60 Minutes in 2003, when he was marketing his autobiography.  “The idea was to keep the
player up all night
.  Just as long as you can.”

During the same interview, Taylor also joked about showing up for a team meeting in handcuffs.  “A couple of ladies that were trying out some new equipment they had,” Taylor said.  “You
know?  And I just happened to, and they just didn’t happen to have the
key.”

It’s no joke for Taylor this time.  TMZ reports that, when police arrested Taylor, they found a condom and other physical evidence in his hotel room.

Authorities will be providing more information at 3:00 p.m. ET.

Regardless of how it turns out, Taylor will be able to add at least a few more chapters to his autobiography.  And there’s a good chance it won’t have a happy ending.

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  1. Dapollock says: May 6, 2010 1:24 PM

    Earlier it was a story that schoolkids were disappointed when a football player didn’t show up and now we have a story where a football player is disappointed when a schoolkid actual does show up.
    Talk about Yin & Yang.

  2. Moozie says: May 6, 2010 1:24 PM

    Typical THUG NY Giant. Child rapist. Probably has the herp all over his junk…like most NY’ers.

  3. BenRoethlisburger says: May 6, 2010 1:24 PM

    I would have thought raping a 15 year old girl was at the heart of LT’s troubles…
    / scratching head

  4. Skinsfan23 says: May 6, 2010 1:27 PM

    LT seems sort of innocent here… The Pimp new it was LT paying for sex…told the 15 year old hooker to claim rape… she gets paid and all the money goes to the pimp…that has to be the obvious story here but I dont know how that would hold up in court.

  5. EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 6, 2010 1:27 PM

    Really? Ending a hooker story with “happy ending”? Raw class.

  6. DcNinerFan says: May 6, 2010 1:28 PM

    Ah, you guys missed a trick… “Taylor told 60 Minutes in 2003, when he was marketing his autobiography.” Should have read “… when he was pimping his autobiography.” Would have been more appropriate. Or less. Ironic is the word I’m looking for.

  7. ethan robert says: May 6, 2010 1:28 PM

    Lets hope L.T. comes to stand for Long Time.
    Another case of a guy who should be jailed for being the pig he obviously is. Luckily the NFL has not shortage of drug fueled has beens to trot out for special occasions.

  8. RedOokies says: May 6, 2010 1:28 PM

    Don’t like Ben Rothlisberger? Go to games and scream stuff until it gets on the news. The NFL will not tolerate every appearance being turned into a media circus.
    And for the record buying sex is better than rape.

  9. BenRoethlisburger says: May 6, 2010 1:28 PM

    Oh I get it.
    Ben gets accused and it’s RAPE.
    LT actually DOES it, and it’s all just a big misunderstanding?
    Right… and ampats feels bad for LT and hopes it’s not true. What a guy.

  10. Frank Burns says: May 6, 2010 1:30 PM

    What, actual physical evidence?
    Well there ya go, ambientnoise — fire away! Show us that famed compassion for women you have, bud! Tell me over on the other thread, you didn’t actually IGNORE the poor GIRL as you actually tried to play the race card, you little apologist, you! Tell me that was just an accident and it wasn’t really you!
    Oh and be sure to pronounce this guy guilty before there’s even a trial, too… use phrases like “you and I both know he did it!” C’mon buddy, give him the full Ben treatment!
    Because we know this isn’t about hating one team, it’s all about your concern for women. Right?

  11. ulizzle says: May 6, 2010 1:31 PM

    Christina Pagniacci would not be pleased…

  12. mwalluk says: May 6, 2010 1:32 PM

    Was Big Ben the pimp?

  13. The Terminator says: May 6, 2010 1:34 PM

    Man can’t win…you try paying for it and you still get busted for rape…what gives….I mean I’m just saying is all!

  14. ar1888 says: May 6, 2010 1:37 PM

    I bet he tried to pay her with crack.

  15. Cereal Blogger says: May 6, 2010 1:38 PM

    Kids,,,dont smoke crack

  16. SHUTYOURFACE says: May 6, 2010 1:39 PM

    ben rapes women. Lawerance taylor has sex w dez bryants moms. big difference.

  17. UckTheFeagles says: May 6, 2010 1:39 PM

    He should come out of retirement…the steelers will hire him. They already employ one known rapist.

  18. Marv_Sleezy says: May 6, 2010 1:39 PM

    Got to give him credit for using a rubber though.

  19. Panda_Claus says: May 6, 2010 1:40 PM

    Not that it matters, but TMZ is also reporting the girl is 16, not 15. Won’t make a difference in this case.
    LT’s wife is also saying she thinks LT was setup. As more details come out, we’ll see if she is still saying that a week from now.

  20. TheBengal13 says: May 6, 2010 1:41 PM

    BenRoethlisberger:
    You’re a ‘gloid. You have no merit or any legs to stand on. He raped two women, one of which was in a freaking public restroom. There’s no doubt he did it, nor is anyone calling this LT situation a “big misunderstnading”. Get a clue, waterbrain.

  21. Nik1118 says: May 6, 2010 1:42 PM

    at least he used a condom…

  22. bofarr says: May 6, 2010 1:42 PM

    Joey Sunshine’s leg’s long, convoluted plan for revenge has finally come to fruition.

  23. cowboyssuck says: May 6, 2010 1:42 PM

    Hope he didn’t mess up her leg like Thiesmann’s. Pimp Daddy better watch out.

  24. Ollie says: May 6, 2010 1:42 PM

    I bet the Bengals want to bring him out of retirement now. Make him and Pacman team leaders.
    Really I hope he and the pimp go to jail for a long time and the 15 year old girl gets her life staighten out.

  25. Frank Burns says: May 6, 2010 1:43 PM

    # BenRoethlisburger says: May 6, 2010 1:28 PM
    Oh I get it.
    Ben gets accused and it’s RAPE.
    LT actually DOES it, and it’s all just a big misunderstanding?
    Right… and ampats feels bad for LT and hopes it’s not true. What a guy.
    —————————————-
    Yeah, amazing how a shoe-on-other-foot story can expose all the hypocrites here, huh?
    Remember, it’s all about their compassion for women — has nothing to do with hating on the Steelers.

  26. Big Stretch says: May 6, 2010 1:45 PM

    It’s no joke for Taylor this time. TMZ reports that, when police arrested Taylor, they found a condom and other physical evidence in his hotel room.
    —————————————————–
    TMZ, I can’t believe you use that as a source, also states that LT was asleep when the cop showed up……. conspiracy maybe.

  27. ethan robert says: May 6, 2010 1:45 PM

    Lets Talk
    Little Tits
    Last Time!
    Lost Tooth
    Lousy Trick
    Late Text
    Lurid Tale
    Legal Trouble
    Looonnnng Time.

  28. jasncondit says: May 6, 2010 1:46 PM

    Silly LT Trix are for Kids, not Tricks are for Kid Prostitutes…lol

  29. Ben Roetlisbunger says: May 6, 2010 1:46 PM

    Depending on the state, it’s a legal defense to say you didn’t know how old the girl was, as long as she was over 14.

  30. badthings says: May 6, 2010 1:47 PM

    # Frank Burns says: May 6, 2010 1:30 PM
    What, actual physical evidence?
    Well there ya go, ambientnoise — fire away! Show us that famed compassion for women you have, bud! Tell me over on the other thread, you didn’t actually IGNORE the poor GIRL as you actually tried to play the race card, you little apologist, you! Tell me that was just an accident and it wasn’t really you!
    Oh and be sure to pronounce this guy guilty before there’s even a trial, too… use phrases like “you and I both know he did it!” C’mon buddy, give him the full Ben treatment!
    Because we know this isn’t about hating one team, it’s all about your concern for women. Right?
    ____________________________________
    Well Frank aren’t you going to investigate this case and use your “Law and Order” tv skills to explain this away? Or do you only do that when the accused is a Steeler?
    What a homer.

  31. ItalianArmyGuy says: May 6, 2010 1:47 PM

    @Florio – You said “happy ending” – LOL!
    NOT
    Sick bastard

  32. Floriooooooo says: May 6, 2010 1:47 PM

    So this girl texts her Uncle to let him know that she was raped by Lawrence Taylor?
    But the fact that she’s living on the streets, and being controlled by a pimp, she fails to mention?
    I smell BS

  33. Ace613 says: May 6, 2010 1:47 PM

    Whats that comment that I kept hearing yesterday about the Patriots player and the school….oh yeah!!!
    STAY CLASSY NEW YORKERS!!!!

  34. ampats says: May 6, 2010 1:49 PM

    Ben Rothlisberger,
    you are a dope. Since you can’t read let me repeat, I feel bad for his family and kids who have been on TV multiple times recently talking about how he has turned his life around and become a better father.
    But then again as witnessed by your multiple dumb posts ( and multiple as in double digit times) everyone understands you are a little mental midget.
    You probably sit at your computer in your # 7 jersey with a jar of vaseline next to you.
    I guess by this article is why your hero forces himself upon young women who say no.
    I could care less what your response is because you are a simpleton with limited intelligence.

  35. toothpick says: May 6, 2010 1:49 PM

    someone should investigate if taylor was ever in a motorcycle accident without a helmet. if so, then i know why he did this.

  36. East Bay Ray says: May 6, 2010 1:49 PM

    Love the “happy ending” reference, Florio. Not that I know anything about that kind of thing, of course, but people have told me……

  37. Yash says: May 6, 2010 1:50 PM

    Thank god i opted for the Bavaro throwback jersey instead of the Taylor jersey…

  38. BenRoethlisburger says: May 6, 2010 1:50 PM

    # RedOokies says: May 6, 2010 1:28 PM
    “Don’t like Ben Rothlisberger? Go to games and scream stuff until it gets on the news. The NFL will not tolerate every appearance being turned into a media circus.”
    Oh by all means. Especially when your team is playing at Heinz Field, please come and scream your asses off. We’ll be waiting for ya….
    “And for the record buying sex is better than rape.”
    Clue; What LT did is rape, of a child no less.
    What BR did was not rape, even the “accuser” said so.
    You’re just another anti-Steelers idiot with an agenda, and not a very good one.

  39. ChargerDillon says: May 6, 2010 1:50 PM

    Prostitution isnt at the heart of LT’s legal troubles….
    MAKING BAD DECISIONS is the heart of LT’s legal troubles…..
    Either this was a bad decision LT decided to make, or this is the first time LT is facing punishment for a lifetime of bad decision making
    plus he’s a Giant so I still question how he could rape a girl because everybody knows all Giants are gay

  40. The Troof says: May 6, 2010 1:53 PM

    Does #Moozie know something about Manhatten that I don’t….?

  41. Redrock says: May 6, 2010 1:53 PM

    Poor LT…you just KNOW it was the concussions that made him do it… Ben knows… and Michael Irvin…and poor Tiger, you know when he swing that club how violently his head turns…these poor guys…concussions will do that to you…LT needs to sue the NFL for this.

  42. NoKoolaidCowboy says: May 6, 2010 1:53 PM

    Shame. Just a real shame that guys that can re-write how to play a position can’t seem to get enough of what life has to offer for free.
    This guy could have been a mentor for kids. He should never find himself in these situations.

  43. WorldHasGoneNutz2U says: May 6, 2010 1:54 PM

    What a lousy idiot. How would he feel if he was doing this to his daughter? His niece? I’m sure the fool has herp or even worse. These guys who do this already have an STi and bring it on home. Now he’s caught again. Hope he goes to jail, the pig.

  44. roofles says: May 6, 2010 1:57 PM

    police found a condom? gross. who uses a condom when they go screw a whore? i sure as hell don’t and most of the whore i go to are right off the boat from haiti.

  45. RayDaMayor says: May 6, 2010 1:57 PM

    “From my drunken and stoned viewpoint, waistdown Your Honor, she looked at least 21.”
    LT

  46. stiller43 says: May 6, 2010 1:58 PM

    Nice happy ending comment to finish…thought it worked well.

  47. Bigbluefan says: May 6, 2010 1:58 PM

    First off LT is a former player not a current player
    Secondly I guess your going to have to start asking the whores for proof
    Lastly
    moozie
    GO F yourself

  48. jamaltimore says: May 6, 2010 2:00 PM

    LT another product of the 757! The tremendous athletes and troubles that come with them from that part of VA is ridiculous!

  49. Howboutdemcowboys says: May 6, 2010 2:00 PM

    BREAKING THE LAW is at the heart of LT’s legal troubles

  50. rodstiffington says: May 6, 2010 2:00 PM

    I wonder if LT tipped her?

  51. RedOokies says: May 6, 2010 2:03 PM

    Statutory Rape is strict liability in NY if I remember my bar prep correctly.

  52. Count Sacula says: May 6, 2010 2:03 PM

    Haha, put that in your crack pipe and smoke it NY.

  53. jlbay says: May 6, 2010 2:03 PM

    Not that it really matters but the TMZ article that is referenced and linked in the story states the girls age as 16 . . . either way LT is a creep and if not for this crime I am sure he has done plenty of other things that should have planted his arz in jail . . . like following the little white line of Coke out to the game . . . ordering hookers for the other team (last I checked it was illegal to purchase sex – even if it wasn’t for your own participation) and those god awful performances on Sunday Night Football (each game should be considered a separate crime).

  54. karmathaitch says: May 6, 2010 2:04 PM

    First off, LT wasn’t even there. He was soooo high off the crack, he was in another universe.
    So stop hating him! Ask if wife, she said there out to get him!! And i believe her!!
    Haaaaaahahahahaaaaa!!!

  55. imabigdog says: May 6, 2010 2:04 PM

    …”controlled by a pimp.”
    When did Dez Bryant ‘s dad get into town?

  56. Tim's_Mom says: May 6, 2010 2:05 PM

    Dapollock says:
    May 6, 2010 1:24 PM
    Earlier it was a story that schoolkids were disappointed when a football player didn’t show up and now we have a story where a football player is disappointed when a schoolkid actual does show up.
    Talk about Yin & Yang
    AWESOME POST.

  57. jsbeck says: May 6, 2010 2:05 PM

    sounds innocent even though i dont like the guy.
    he got a hooker and a kid shows up at the door!!
    i mean, if he asked for a 15yr old he should serve at least a week in jail (according to stallworth celebrity justice rules).
    HOOKING SHOULD NOT BE AGAINST THE LAW PERIOD. now you are sending him on the streets to ACTUALLY rape!!

  58. BenRoethlisburger says: May 6, 2010 2:05 PM

    # TheBengal13 says: May 6, 2010 1:41 PM
    “…He raped two women, one of which was in a freaking public restroom…”
    No he didn’t, the DA in Georgia said so. As did all of the gold-digger’s coworkers in Nevada.
    “…There’s no doubt he did it, …”
    Uhm… yes there is. A shitload of doubt.
    Which is why BR is walking around a free man, and was never arrested or charged.
    Step away from the TV pee-brain.
    I’d go on but I can’t stop laughing about you assholes acquiring Pacman…
    Good luck with that!
    LMFAO

  59. EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 6, 2010 2:07 PM

    ChargerDillon says:
    May 6, 2010 1:50 PM
    plus he’s a Giant so I still question how he could rape a girl because everybody knows all Giants are gay
    ________
    …ok that was pretty good

  60. DocBG says: May 6, 2010 2:09 PM

    Its just too bad she wasnt watching his kids, and they just happened to wind up in a hottub together, and he lived in wisconsin, then all would be forgiven in a heartbeat.
    btw, florio you are a douche for ending story about a 15 yearold prostitute with the phrase “happy ending”
    but then again, you are going to be on PMSNBC and they are full of asshats like that.

  61. tritan306 says: May 6, 2010 2:09 PM

    I love when people like “BenRoethlisburger” speak on here.. Only solidifies their idiocy and blind love.

  62. Shai says: May 6, 2010 2:11 PM

    And, Tony Washington is saying. ” What’s wrong with that?”

  63. lesmilesneedsabrain says: May 6, 2010 2:12 PM

    Goodell should beable to pull guys like this out of the hall of fame.
    Or at least give him an asterick*

  64. DCall says: May 6, 2010 2:12 PM

    Class E Felony – 3-4 years

  65. Deb says: May 6, 2010 2:12 PM

    @SkinsFan23 …
    The pimp didn’t need to tell the hooker to claim rape. It’s an automatic rape charge when a minor has sex with an adult regardless of whether she consented.

  66. Free_Ryan_Leaf says: May 6, 2010 2:12 PM

    Skinsfan23 says:
    May 6, 2010 1:27 PM
    LT seems sort of innocent here… The Pimp new it was LT paying for sex…told the 15 year old hooker to claim rape… she gets paid and all the money goes to the pimp…that has to be the obvious story here but I dont know how that would hold up in court.
    ******************************************
    Prostitution is still a crime for all parties involved. Except in certain parts of Nevada I believe.

  67. tacious says: May 6, 2010 2:15 PM

    @ Ace613
    Not sure I get where you’re going… how do you draw the comparison between an ex-Giant who retired like 20 years ago and a bunch of current day players/ coaches that failed to show up for a scheduled event for kids?

  68. southern girl says: May 6, 2010 2:18 PM

    I would justlike to say that this situation it was awfully convenient. This girl was supposed to be a runaway, but as soon as she left the hotel room with the pimp she texted her uncle. Where was her uncle while the pimp had her on the streets? If she had a cellphone, why didn’t her parents/family try to find her before this happened. I think it was the case of somebody seizing a golden opportunity.

  69. EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 6, 2010 2:20 PM

    Yeah, I don’t think LT having sex with a girl who happens to be 15 or 16 (16 is legal in most states, by the way, and notice the distinction between having sex and raping) makes Ben Roethlisberger forcibly raping a girl any better.

  70. Coach Stram says: May 6, 2010 2:26 PM

    “LT, Mark Chmura holding on line 2……….”

  71. BenRoethlisburger says: May 6, 2010 2:29 PM

    # tritan306 says: May 6, 2010 2:09 PM
    “I love when people like “BenRoethlisburger” speak on here.. Only solidifies their idiocy and blind love.”
    Just the fact that you stopped what you were doing and took the time to respond to it, makes you what?
    a Rhodes Scholar?
    I win.
    dumb ass

  72. BenRoethlisburger says: May 6, 2010 2:36 PM

    # southern girl says: May 6, 2010 2:18 PM
    “I would justlike to say that this situation it was awfully convenient. This girl was supposed to be a runaway, but as soon as she left the hotel room with the pimp she texted her uncle. Where was her uncle while the pimp had her on the streets? If she had a cellphone, why didn’t her parents/family try to find her before this happened. I think it was the case of somebody seizing a golden opportunity.”
    Translation:
    If a Steeler was involved, he’s automatically GUILTY!
    Anybody else, and something fishy was going on…
    Funny though, that LT was ARRESTED & CHARGED, and EVIDENCE was FOUND AT THE SCENE. Yet, this is all just a misunderstanding.

  73. Jaysuz says: May 6, 2010 2:39 PM

    LOL at the Steeler fans being happy that there is another rapist on the loose.

  74. daback9 says: May 6, 2010 2:41 PM

    Come on Godell do something! Oh, that’s right he’s not in the league anymore.

  75. Tdk24 says: May 6, 2010 2:41 PM

    You can’t fake book smarts.

  76. jibfest says: May 6, 2010 2:41 PM

    Who pays the cell phone bill, the pimp or the parents? Who are most likely scum of the earth themselves.

  77. Ace613 says: May 6, 2010 2:50 PM

    tacious says:
    May 6, 2010 2:15 PM
    Not sure I get where you’re going… how do you draw the comparison between an ex-Giant who retired like 20 years ago and a bunch of current day players/ coaches that failed to show up for a scheduled event for kids?
    ————————————————-
    It was a sarcastic point, there was no proof that a player was supposed to show up, and it was quoted that there was a form of miscommunication. That can be right or maybe not. My point was how does a miscommunication from a member of the patriots organization to the school result in everyone commenting “stay classy new england” and why shouldnt LT’s involvement now turn to a “stay classy new york”

  78. Holeinone09 says: May 6, 2010 2:57 PM

    @RedOokies says:
    May 6, 2010 1:28 PM
    Don’t like Ben Rothlisberger? Go to games and scream stuff until it gets on the news. The NFL will not tolerate every appearance being turned into a media circus.
    And for the record buying sex is better than rape.
    * * * * *
    You are a pathetic dick. Please provide a link to actual evidence of rape, then say something.

  79. TheBengal13 says: May 6, 2010 3:02 PM

    Frank Burns and BenRoethlisberger from here should date. They can bash all of the “Ben haters” and talk about how they like to give 15-year old girls “fizzy chardonnays” (A glass of white wine with rufalin in it).

  80. Ace613 says: May 6, 2010 3:02 PM

    BenRoethlisburger says:
    May 6, 2010 2:36 PM
    If a Steeler was involved, he’s automatically GUILTY!
    Anybody else, and something fishy was going on…
    ————————————————-
    The fact that it happened twice within a year (possibly 3 from that report from the lawyer who never filed charges. But we will stick with 2 for arguements sake), or that he treats everyone like crap has nothing to do with it I am sure.

  81. AlphaBean says: May 6, 2010 3:03 PM

    This site has quite possibly the classiest and most intelligent readers and commenters in the entire free world.

  82. Moozie says: May 6, 2010 3:03 PM

    @ The Troof
    Yeah, NY’ers have the highest rate of herpes in the country. Look it up….although, I’m sure that’s difficult with a sub 80 IQ. NY is a sh!thole ( although better than Philly). Enjoy your child raping football hero, fanboy.

  83. Deb says: May 6, 2010 3:08 PM

    EverybodyGotAIDS says:
    Yeah, I don’t think LT having sex with a girl who happens to be 15 or 16 (16 is legal in most states, by the way, and notice the distinction between having sex and raping) makes Ben Roethlisberger forcibly raping a girl any better.
    ———————————————–
    LT is entitled to due process. But if this is true, please don’t make distinctions about whether he was having sex with a 15-year-old or a 16-year-old. Either way, it would be very disturbing. Prostitution is not legal in New York, regardless.
    No, you are right. Nothing about this case has anything to do with the Roethlisberger cases. You can’t blame people for noting the bizarre hypocrisy of some PFT commenters, however.
    Roethlisberger is an egomaniacal jackass who apparently is a dog with women. He deserved his suspension for stupidity if nothing else. But based on the evidence in both cases, he didn’t rape anyone because no one was raped. I realize that’s a disappointment to a lot of “men” posting here–though I don’t understand why.
    Nevada texted friends shortly after the “rape” saying she looked forwared to seeing Ben at a VIP function. That’s only one example of many communications from her on file with the Nevada court. Rape victims look forward to seeing their attackers.
    Georgia repeatedly denied being raped before finally accusing Ben of vaginal rape. The medical exam was negative for intercourse. If she did not have intercourse, she was not vaginally raped.
    A lot of other evidence supports his innocence of assault in both cases, but those two tidbits are more than enough to convince any objective person no rapes occurred.

  84. RedOokies says: May 6, 2010 3:09 PM

    Ben Rothlisburger – You don’t address my point, which is that if people who pay to go to games scream nasty stuff at big ben every time he plays he will be out of the league. The NFL will not let it be a headline every weekend.
    It will happen to him during home games too.

  85. funi says: May 6, 2010 3:10 PM

    OK Ben haters, he “allegedly” had sex witha 20 year old and thats rape, but L.T. does it with a MINOR and its a misunderstanding? Racial profiling against white men!

  86. Skinsfan23 says: May 6, 2010 3:11 PM

    Thanks for interpriation guys…I dont know if I said it correctly though… if she was a prostitute it couldnt be rape…LT was set up by the pimp…and buying a hooker has to be much less time in jail than raping a 16 year old dont you agree?

  87. muchmaligned says: May 6, 2010 3:12 PM

    @ BenRoethlisburger(SP? you’re an idiot)
    You are the biggest douche bag in this forum… today.
    Enjoy!

  88. EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 6, 2010 3:25 PM

    Moozie says:
    May 6, 2010 3:03 PM
    @ The Troof
    Yeah, NY’ers have the highest rate of herpes in the country. Look it up….although, I’m sure that’s difficult with a sub 80 IQ. NY is a sh!thole ( although better than Philly). Enjoy your child raping football hero, fanboy.
    _______________
    Well when you’re right, you’re right.

  89. BenRoethlisburger says: May 6, 2010 3:29 PM

    # RedOokies says: May 6, 2010 3:09 PM
    “Ben Rothlisburger – You don’t address my point, which is that if people who pay to go to games scream nasty stuff at big ben every time he plays he will be out of the league. The NFL will not let it be a headline every weekend.”
    You’ll be out of the stadium before he’s out of the league.
    “It will happen to him during home games too.”
    Which WAS my point. Please, oh PLEASE come here to Pittsburgh and do it…
    / You’ll see what I mean when you get here.

  90. Rasta says: May 6, 2010 3:32 PM

    All rich clients of a pimp order out the color, race, age and gender of person they want
    I know I use to be one untill I became rich also.

  91. buffalokie says: May 6, 2010 3:32 PM

    EverybodyGotAIDS says:
    May 6, 2010 1:27 PM
    Really? Ending a hooker story with “happy ending”? Raw class.
    ——————————————
    Your a F#@&ING hippocrite. STFU u POS!
    ——————————————
    In a previous thread:
    EverybodyGotAIDS says:
    May 6, 2010 12:56 PM
    I just heard he was charged with 3rd degree rape. Is that statutory? If so, wouldn’t that then mean it isn’t really rape (i.e. forcible sex – like Ben Roethlisberger), but hopefully just not knowing her accurate age? Also, who doesn’t punch a hooker in the face after sex? Totally worth the extra fiver.

  92. Count Sacula says: May 6, 2010 3:38 PM

    @ Moozie:
    What awesome city are you from?

  93. FAS says: May 6, 2010 3:39 PM

    Only one difference between this case and the Rapistburger case…no Giants fans will show up here to defend the rapist in every way imaginable.
    If he’s lucky, maybe a few men posing as women on this site will defend him…like they do with Rapistburger.

  94. DWat393 says: May 6, 2010 3:39 PM

    A few serious questions:
    Where were the hooker and pimp when the police busted into LT’s room? Why were they arrested–don’t you usually need a cooperating witness to proceed with a rape charge?
    Unless it was used, which the article doesn’t clarify, how is a condom considered evidence? They could have broken into any room in that hotel and I’d say there’s a 50/50 chance they find a condom. And even used…are they going to run DNA on a statutory rape charge, which besides the prostitution thing it seems like this is going to boil down to?
    By no means am I being a Taylor apologist, but there is so much gray area up to this point that I find it hard to pass judgment either way.

  95. DWat393 says: May 6, 2010 3:41 PM

    Also, who are you fools saying prostitutes can’t be raped? Even with my remedial understanding of the law, that’s a dumb ass statement.

  96. Holeinone09 says: May 6, 2010 3:41 PM

    @RedOokies says:
    May 6, 2010 1:28 PM
    Don’t like Ben Rothlisberger? Go to games and scream stuff until it gets on the news. The NFL will not tolerate every appearance being turned into a media circus.
    And for the record buying sex is better than rape.
    * * * * *
    You ignored my first post to you (conveniently) and thus didn’t address MY point. Please provide a link to actual evidence of rape by Ben that you claim, then say something. Pretty simple. Prove you are right, pal.

  97. favrecansuckit says: May 6, 2010 3:42 PM

    When’s the last time LT made a good decision? What a P.O.S….

  98. mama tried says: May 6, 2010 3:45 PM

    I pray for you LT!!
    I saw a thing on TLC or something the other night about you and coke/crack, in the end it said you had been clean for 10 yrs.
    I thought better of you at this point!
    Good luck man!

  99. tryagain says: May 6, 2010 3:46 PM

    BenRoethlisburger says: You’re just another anti-Steelers idiot with an agenda, and not a very good one.
    And you’re just another whiney Steeler fan complaining because people think Ben’s a scumbag. I know, it’s the whole world against the poowah sweet Steewahs, everyone else is just jeawous. bwa hah.

  100. Frank Burns says: May 6, 2010 3:49 PM

    Yep Deb and “bizarre” their hypocrisy is… let’s go to the quotes!
    ————————————–
    # ampats says: May 6, 2010 1:49 PM
    Ben Rothlisberger,
    you are a dope. Since you can’t read let me repeat, I feel bad for his family and kids who have been on TV multiple times recently talking about how he has turned his life around and become a better father.
    But then again as witnessed by your multiple dumb posts ( and multiple as in double digit times) everyone understands you are a little mental midget.
    You probably sit at your computer in your # 7 jersey with a jar of vaseline next to you.
    I guess by this article is why your hero forces himself upon young women who say no.
    I could care less what your response is because you are a simpleton with limited intelligence.
    ——————————————
    Sorry hypocrite boy, you don’t get to rip others right now — you were called out before for only screaming about Ben’s assault charge because it involved the Steelers, not concern for some “victim.” And this just proves it! Aw, whatsa matter, you happen not to hate Taylor or the Giants, so now you want to tell people NOT to make jokes — when all you did was make jokes about Roethlisberger?
    Sorry, FAIL.
    And now for this clown:
    —————————————————–
    # EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 6, 2010 2:20 PM
    Yeah, I don’t think LT having sex with a girl who happens to be 15 or 16 (16 is legal in most states, by the way, and notice the distinction between having sex and raping) makes Ben Roethlisberger forcibly raping a girl any better.
    —————————————————
    Where do I even start? Well first, nice try upping her age to a ripe ol’ 16 — hey that makes it cool right? Well, look at a member of the outrage posse playing all apologist now when it’s somebody other than Ben involved.
    Oh and nice try introducing words like “forcibly” scumbag — or trying to slide by your ASSUMPTION that Ben “forcibly raped” anyone.
    How about this distincition? Unlike Ben, Taylor has ACTUALLY BEEN CHARGED, not just rumored.
    Another FAIL.
    Hypocrites.

  101. Frank Burns says: May 6, 2010 3:50 PM

    Yep Deb and “bizarre” their hypocrisy is… let’s go to the quotes!
    ————————————–
    # ampats says: May 6, 2010 1:49 PM
    Ben Rothlisberger,
    you are a dope. Since you can’t read let me repeat, I feel bad for his family and kids who have been on TV multiple times recently talking about how he has turned his life around and become a better father.
    But then again as witnessed by your multiple dumb posts ( and multiple as in double digit times) everyone understands you are a little mental midget.
    You probably sit at your computer in your # 7 jersey with a jar of vaseline next to you.
    I guess by this article is why your hero forces himself upon young women who say no.
    I could care less what your response is because you are a simpleton with limited intelligence.
    ——————————————
    Sorry hypocrite boy, you don’t get to rip others right now — you were called out before for only screaming about Ben’s assault charge because it involved the Steelers, not concern for some “victim.” And this just proves it! Aw, whatsa matter, you happen not to hate Taylor or the Giants, so now you want to tell people NOT to make jokes — when all you did was make jokes about Roethlisberger?
    Sorry, FAIL.
    And now for this clown:
    —————————————————–
    # EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 6, 2010 2:20 PM
    Yeah, I don’t think LT having sex with a girl who happens to be 15 or 16 (16 is legal in most states, by the way, and notice the distinction between having sex and raping) makes Ben Roethlisberger forcibly raping a girl any better.
    —————————————————
    Where do I even start? Well first, nice try upping her age to a ripe ol’ 16 — hey that makes it cool right? Well, look at a member of the outrage posse playing all apologist now when it’s somebody other than Ben involved. Where’s that outrage vs. violence against women now — oh wait maybe it doesn’t count ‘cuz she’s just a girl?
    Oh and nice try introducing words like “forcibly” scumbag — or trying to slide by your ASSUMPTION that Ben “forcibly raped” anyone.
    How about this distincition? Unlike Ben, Taylor has ACTUALLY BEEN CHARGED, not just rumored to have done something.
    Another FAIL.
    Hypocrites.

  102. darth_vincent says: May 6, 2010 3:53 PM

    I don’t really know the intricacies of prostitution…
    But I bet the odds are good that a pimp with 1 under-age girl in his stable of ho’s more than likely has others, and was LT a repeat customer of this pimp. Would LT really cold-call a service like this without a previous history or a referral? I wouldn’t think so…
    …and for the record, the Holiday Inn Express I was at last night was in Nevada (I think).

  103. Bob S. says: May 6, 2010 4:01 PM

    if having sex with a prositute is jailable
    why isnt spitzer in the same states jail?

  104. Deb says: May 6, 2010 4:12 PM

    @Skinsfan23 …
    It doesn’t work that way. The legal age of consent in New York is 17, so she’s a minor. That means it’s automatically rape. It doesn’t matter if she’s a hooker and willingly charged for the transaction. It wouldn’t matter if he were her 22-year-old boyfriend and she were his 16-year-old girlfriend and the sex were consensual. According to the law, she is unable to consent because of her age. Ignorance of the law is not a legal excuse, so it won’t matter if he thought she was 17 or 18.
    Yes, the statute is different for statutory rape than for forcible rape. That’s why he’s looking at four years and not more. But it’s still rape according to the law. It’s possible he can plead it down. And it’s possible he didn’t have sex with her before she called the police.
    BTW, based on the comments by the police in the press conference, apparently she was not a willing prostitute and had been beaten prior to arriving at Taylor’s room.

  105. EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 6, 2010 4:13 PM

    Where do I even start? Well first, nice try upping her age to a ripe ol’ 16 — hey that makes it cool right? Well, look at a member of the outrage posse playing all apologist now when it’s somebody other than Ben involved. Where’s that outrage vs. violence against women now — oh wait maybe it doesn’t count ‘cuz she’s just a girl?
    Oh and nice try introducing words like “forcibly” scumbag — or trying to slide by your ASSUMPTION that Ben “forcibly raped” anyone.
    How about this distincition? Unlike Ben, Taylor has ACTUALLY BEEN CHARGED, not just rumored to have done something.
    __________________
    Well for starters, LT was charged with 3rd degree rape, which is the statute covering consensual sex with a person under the age of 17 (age of consent in NY) but over the age of 14 by someone over the age of 18, and more than 4 years older than the “victim”. (Did a little research – try it sometime)
    Also, the girl was a prostitute. Not saying it isn’t sad…just saying…..come on. Really? You can’t rape someone who takes money for sex. You sorta give up that right when you decide to roll over when someone drops a $20
    Also, in Ben’s case, it wasn’t some street whore who went there for the sole intent of trading money for sex, it was a college girl who got fed alcohol, dragged into a bathroom and violated. Doesn’t that seem different to you?

  106. Frank Burns says: May 6, 2010 4:18 PM

    # FAS says: May 6, 2010 3:39 PM
    Only one difference between this case and the Rapistburger case…no Giants fans will show up here to defend the rapist in every way imaginable.
    If he’s lucky, maybe a few men posing as women on this site will defend him…like they do with Rapistburger.
    —————————————–
    Again, with the bullshit — if Ben had been charged and we were “defending” him, that’d be one thing.
    But he wasn’t.
    So there’s nothing TO defend in the first place.
    You may now sit down and STFU.

  107. EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 6, 2010 4:27 PM

    How about “neither” my bullshitting red-herring-throwing slandering friend… for you see, the “forcible rape” is only something YOU claim happened. So the comparison is invalid.
    Or is it? Let’s see, alleged unproven rape vs. actually-charged statutory rape… I’d say it’s no contest.
    Hope I cleared that up for you.
    _______________
    No…..no you didn’t. You may need evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to prove something in a court of law, but the court of public opinion is more akin to the standards of a civil case, i.e. “More than likely”. Using that standard, Ben is a full-on rapist.
    Split hairs however you like, but the prosecutor declining to prosecute because – in HIS WORDS – there was insufficient evidence to secure a conviction doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen.
    Unless, of course, you’re really Denzel Washington from Training Day – it’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove. Well, in that case, my friend, King Kong ain’t got shit on you.

  108. RedOokies says: May 6, 2010 4:43 PM

    The issue isn’t wether or not Ben raped anyone, it is whether or not people think he did.
    Lots of people think he is a rapist.
    This will make him unpopular as an entertainer.
    This means that if enough people make a media spectacle about his behavior he will be out of the league.
    What I’m saying is really really simple.

  109. Deb says: May 6, 2010 4:48 PM

    @EverybodyGotAIDS …
    Okay, McNulty and Georgia. I don’t have both names. Do you? Don’t know that McNulty is BFI. She ran up some hefty medical bills in bizarre circumstances and sued a high-profile athlete for $3mil, alleging a he said/she said crime when it was too late to search for forensic evidence. Sounds pretty calculating.
    You won’t bore me. I’m well-versed in medical issues. Used to write for a medical research org. It takes a miniscule amount of DNA to determine identification. The amount found on Georgia was so infinitesimal it couldn’t be tested. Even a drop of semen would have produced more DNA. Certainly intercourse or withdrawal would have produced more DNA. And there was no mention or evidence of a condom. The vaginal bruising and trace bleeding is also consistent with the use of a hand. But digital rape wasn’t the allegation.
    What’s more, during the press conference, the DA was asked whether the accuser had sex earlier in the day–which also could have accounted for the miniscule amount of DNA (which might have been left after she showered) and the bruising (which also can occur during consensual sex). He refused to comment, citing the accuser’s medical privacy. If the answer had been negative, it’s likely she would have waived privacy for the sake of her reputation.
    According to her statement, she went to the bathroom, then met Ben in the hallway, they became engaged in sexual conduct, wound up on the hallway floor, she got up, went into the bathroom, he followed, locked the door, she protested, he ignored her, they became sufficiently disengaged from their clothing to allow for intercourse, they had intercourse, they reapplied their clothing, he left without saying a word, then she left.
    According to the DA based on the statements of multiple witnesses, she was out of sight no more than 10 minutes.
    The trauma of rape. Thank you for explaining that to me. I was the victim of a violent rape–you know, the kind where you weren’t wearing a DTF pin, you weren’t chasing the guy around all night, and you actually fought back. Yet I managed to be coherent the next day. Years later, I can still recall minute details.
    She was repeatedly asked if she was raped and said no. No medical evidence supports the rape allegation. One of the two sorority sisters who dragged her to the cops and said she’d been raped when she said she hadn’t was the one Ben had tossed from the party for ragging him about McNulty. The bodyguard refused to let her back in. She’s the same one who took Georgia to the police the next day when she changed her story. She and her buddy are the only ones claiming the bodyguard was blocking the bathroom door. Everyone else says he was blocking the entrance to the VIP room. So … Georgia says she and Ben started out on the hallway floor. Where was the bodyguard standing? On top of them?
    What’s worse? It’s not a contest.

  110. jsbeck says: May 6, 2010 4:52 PM

    haha, illegal!! (unless you are in Congress and its a guy you are buying)
    16 is legal to bone, but there is an age cut off, i think its 24yo

  111. shazard01 says: May 6, 2010 4:59 PM

    Couldn’t he afford to to call an escort service from all those Slim Fast spots?
    I’m sure Marino is thinking LOSER!

  112. Deb says: May 6, 2010 5:01 PM

    EverybodyGotAIDS says:
    Also, in Ben’s case, it wasn’t some street whore who went there for the sole intent of trading money for sex, it was a college girl who got fed alcohol, dragged into a bathroom and violated. Doesn’t that seem different to you?
    ————————————————
    Are you competing for the title of biggest pig on a swine-infested site?
    First, in Ben’s case it was a woman wearing a DTF pin who also told him she was “down to f–k.” At least prostitutes place monetary value on themselves. Apparently the Georgia sorority sisters just give themselves away for the price of quite a few drinks.
    Fed alcohol? Fed alcohol? ROFL Is that anything like feeding corn to a cow? You put it in the trough and shove their faces into it? According to MULTIPLE witnesses, that woman followed Ben from bar to bar all night, drinking all the while on her own dime. Apparently getting smashed is a regular pastime for her, and she’s already had one fake ID confiscated at that club. She spent the evening pinching the guy and trying to get his attention. The DA said they spent their time in that club engaged in MUTUAL sexual conduct and conversation–her to him, him to her. The DA said he didn’t want to go into the “salacious” details.
    No one dragged her into a bathroom and violated her. The DA said they didn’t have enough evidence to support probable cause for an arrest, let alone enough for a conviction. Lumping that woman in with real rape victims is IDIOTIC and the worst kind of football nonsense, you boob.
    She and Ben are two sides of the SAME sorry coin.
    According to the cops, the teenage prostitute was a girl who ran in MARCH when she was only 15. She was picked up by a pimp who forced her into prostitution. She showed up at Taylor’s hotel with visible bruises on her face from blows delivered by the pimp–which sounds like she was probably forced to go to the room. While there, she called her family. Taylor’s defense is that he didn’t have sex with her. He’s entitled to due process. But for you to be painting a grown woman in Georgia who acted like all kinds of trash in front of DOZENS of witnesses as a victim and a beaten runaway in New York as a whore is … well, typical of the “men” on PFT.

  113. Holeinone09 says: May 6, 2010 5:20 PM

    @RedOokies says:
    May 6, 2010 4:43 PM
    The issue isn’t wether or not Ben raped anyone, it is whether or not people think he did.
    * * * *
    So, you admit that Ben didn’t really rape anybody, so you were wrong in what you said.
    But along your own rationale, see if you can follow me. I “THINK” you are a complete jackass. Therefore you must be one, huh? After all, as you said yourself, it’s now whether or not you are a complete jackass, it is whether or not people think you are. Ergo, you are!
    Dismissed.

  114. Bdrunk says: May 6, 2010 5:52 PM

    Does anyone ever talk about football here?

  115. EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 6, 2010 8:42 PM

    Hey there “Deb”. Let’s just clear one thing up first and foremost.
    1) Talking about the “men” on PFT?
    You’re either
    a) a guy pretending to be a woman
    or
    b) a woman pretending to know about football.
    Point being – STFU
    2) Isn’t it a little creepy how you’re so dedicated to this “case”? It seems like you’ve read everything there is to read about Ben raping people, which frankly has me a little concerned.
    3) Are you really blaming Ben’s victim? Really? Did you ever go to college? (Steeler’s fan in college? LOL) Seriously though. If you had gone to an institution of higher learning not named “Vito’s University of Unisex Hair Design”, you would have been through about 5 or 6 presentations about how the actions of a woman prior to sex do not guarantee sex. They (and yes, I mean they, not “you guys” – I’m betting my money on A [see above]) sorta have the ability to change their minds. I’m the pig? Really? She was asking for it? You, sir, are the pig.
    4) How do you know about this girl? She was able to contact her family then, but not prior? Was LT her first John? How do you know she was beaten to get her to go there? Seriously? The cops said the injuries happened prior to the run-in with LT. Now I’m not a doctor, but I’m going to suggest that if you can tell that someone’s injuries didn’t happen a few hours ago, it’ll probably be because it happened at least a few days ago or more. You can’t tell if a bruise came from 4 hours ago or 5 hours ago. More like either 4-5 hours ago….or 6 days ago. But hey, don’t let these little details get in the way of the fantasy you’ve constructed. Keep at it, buddy.

  116. Deb says: May 6, 2010 10:52 PM

    @EverybodyGotAIDS …
    Goodness, what an, um, intelligent? response … sort of like PFT jabberwocky.
    I’m all girl but just happened to fall in love with a very masculine sport when I was a child. And my football knowledge was well-demonstrated last season. It speaks for itself.
    STFU is the last refuge of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.
    I find the username “EverybodyGotAIDS” pretty creepy. Yes, as I’ve posted before, I’ve been quite fixated on this story for several reasons. Here they are:
    I’m a Steelers fan, so it involves my team. I’m a rape survivor, so it mattered to me whether the QB I’d been cheering had raped someone. I’m a writer/editor/researcher (so the posts and the research come easily) with a degree in journalism (University of Missouri–oldest school of journalism in the world), so I’m not one to trust gossip sites. Prefer doing my own homework. My brother and sister-in-law are criminal defense attorneys, so that helps. I spent several years in a war zone in another country where there was no due process, have covered several court cases, and have known several people who’ve been wrongly convicted. And I’ve spent a lot of time with rape victims. I’m dedicated to Constitutional principles and very disturbed by the increasing number of false rape claims, which hurt real victims and undermine efforts to monitor real predators. These issues are very personal to me. I have no sympathy for rapists–nor for women who falsely cry rape.
    How about you? You’ve been pretty fixated, too … just without the factual research.
    No, I’m not blaming Ben’s victim. The medical evidence says there was no intercourse. So there was no rape. So there was no victim. I’m saying whatever happened, it wasn’t the vaginal rape she alleged. Funny thing about all the rape victims I’ve known. No matter what details they were fuzzy about, they all knew where the guy put his penis.
    I’m saying two people got drunk and willingly climbed all over each other but never consumated. I’m saying that because that’s what the evidence says. It’s not personal. Like everyone else, I get pissed at some of the morons on here and lash out. If you want to know my personal feelings, I have more sympathy for her than Ben. That’s simply because the evidence suggests she has some vindictive “friends” who dragged her into alleging rape when she was too drunk to realize what was going on. Ben is just an idiot.
    All I’ve said about the girl in the LT case is what the police said at the press conference. She ran away in March at age 15. It’s now May 6 and she has turned 16. They’ve arrested the pimp for forcing her into prostitution. He personally escorted her to Taylor’s hotel room. The facial injuries must have been visible because Taylor kept assuring the police he wasn’t the one who hit her. The ONLY legal defense to statutory rape is that you didn’t have sex with the girl. Consent is not a defense to the charge. His attorney told the press they did not have sex. As far as I’m concerned, he is innocent until proved guilty–just like Roethlisberger.
    However, if you hired a prostitute and a pimp showed up at your door with a young girl (no, he couldn’t know her age, but obviously she was young) with a visibly bruised face, would you continue with the transaction? That’s just foolish. It’s New York, and he certainly had the financial resources to hire an escort in less seedy circumstances.
    Forget football teams. Forget rape. WHATEVER the circumstances, this is not a 20-year-old adult that MULTIPLE witnesses said was willingly chasing a 28-year-old from bar to bar while willingly getting loaded, pinching him, engaging in MUTUAL sexual conduct with him, and wearing a “Down to F–k” pin. This was a just-turned-16-year-old who’d been beaten in the face being taken to a hotel room to be sold to a 51-year-old man. If you can’t see the tragedy in that, I’m sorry for you.

  117. Moozie says: May 6, 2010 11:17 PM

    Rape is rape. Both Ben and LT are sexual predators. Stop being homers. Ben is a serial rapist and LT is a child rapist.

  118. amusedbyeveryone says: May 6, 2010 11:53 PM

    Some of you are witty, others not so much.
    Give the Ben R. stuff a rest.

  119. Deb says: May 7, 2010 1:58 PM

    amusedbyeveryone says:
    Some of you are witty, others not so much.
    Give the Ben R. stuff a rest.
    ————————————————
    Says one of the chief instigators.
    I will if you guys will.
    I just came here to talk football. And my wit once had a nice following. But there’s nothing about these topics that invites humor from rational people.

  120. RG Earl says: May 9, 2010 5:25 AM

    Deb, I’d like to check something with you.. if you don’t have the answer maybe you could verify with your attny relatives…
    The current defense for LT apparently is that “he didn’t have sex”.
    My understanding of the law regarding solicitation is that it isn’t necessary for it to be an accomplished fact. Which is why the “Police Stings” are able to work. All that is necessary is for the bargain to be made.. sex in exchange for value.

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