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Ray Lewis "shocked" by the help Tim Tebow has received

We’ve previously pointed out that Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow could spark contempt and resentment in an NFL locker room.  Recent comments from Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis hone in on one of the specific potential sources for the hard feelings players may have for Tebow.

That Tebow is somehow better or more worthy than the rest of them.

Asked by ESPN Radio’s Colin Cowherd whether Lewis was shocked by the media attention on the Tebow story prior to the draft, Lewis said (via NFL.com), “The thing I was more shocked by is you see all the people who were
willing to help him
.  I don’t know many people who
were willing to help other athletes like that.  Jon Gruden loved him to death.  You see all these people who took out their
personal time to really work with him and make this big issue, big
issue, big issue.  I don’t know why he was any different than anyone
else.  Every young child has that dream, that same dream that Tebow had. 
So I don’t know why he was bigger . . . than any of the other guys.

“He went to a big program, and, yes, he might be a favorable person,
but nobody else in the league, definitely not veteran players, see
themselves differently than any other player.”

Though Lewis stopped short of saying that this will make Tebow a target of opposing defenders (the Broncos play at Baltimore on October 10), Tebow’s bigger concern should be ironing out any hard feelings that may arise in his own locker room, where others may not be thrilled by the budding love affair between Tebow and the fan base and/or Tebow and the head coach, who proclaimed this week that Tebow has the “it” factor.

Again, it all comes down to how Tebow handles himself.  And though others might see Tebow “differently than any other player,” we don’t believe Tebow carries himself in a way that suggests that he sees himself differently.  And we think that if Tebow handles himself the way he always has, he’ll win his teammates over and, in time, his foes. 

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  1. PittsburghSteelerz says: May 7, 2010 9:45 AM

    Jebus, or is it Jesus, bias!

  2. red13 says: May 7, 2010 9:45 AM

    Florio, I’m sensing a serious man-crush blossoming between you and Tebow. You’re always taking the negative/polarizing view to stir up controversy. Yet, every new article on Tebow makes you sound more and more like Johnny Sunshine (aka Jon Gruden announcing an NFL game).

  3. TheDukeMan70 says: May 7, 2010 9:46 AM

    So what Ray is saying here is that Tim Tibow will be the next person he kills. But its OK, we all know Ray cant go to jail for killing people

  4. Monarch says: May 7, 2010 9:47 AM

    Preach Ray, Preach

  5. The Real Shuxion says: May 7, 2010 9:48 AM

    Imagine what would happen if Tebow stepped on one of his boys feet.
    No Ray Lewis did not kill anybody, let’s put that myth to rest.
    However he kept his mouth shut and made sure his boys did too preventing the family of the victum of getting any kind of justice which in itself is disgusting.

  6. 6250claimer says: May 7, 2010 9:48 AM

    “…but nobody else in the league, definitely not veteran players, see themselves differently than any other player.”
    Sorry, RayRay, but your statement lost ALL credibility right there, with that ridiculous assertion. The league is FULL of divas and other cretins who feel they’re above the law, worthy of special treatment, better than teammates/coaches/management, etc.
    Nothing to see here, drive through.

  7. chc4 says: May 7, 2010 9:49 AM

    If Ray were just another Joe he’d be in jail right now so not sure what the hell he’s talking about. All that $ bought some pretty snazzy lawyers and got his ass off. He should shut his mouth… of course he’s never been able to do that.

  8. Slow Joe says: May 7, 2010 9:49 AM

    Positivity is infectious. If you’re a positive person, people become positive, and they become positive about you. They’ll want to help you.
    Of course there’ll be a few players who are bitter about it; there’s 53 players in the locker room, each with a unique personality from the next. But that happens all the time, most especially the bitterness towards the one or two players on every team that has an supposedly undeserved lucrative contract.
    But overall, positivity breeds positivity, and it’s just best to ignore the negative people.

  9. Mean D says: May 7, 2010 9:49 AM

    Go back to dancing like a complete idiot, Ray Ray, and leave this kid alone. Last I checked, Ray, Tebow didn’t get drunk in Atlanta and leave 2 kids dead. You bought yourself out of that one, Ray. So shut your murderous mouth and go back to your stupid ass dance.

  10. Florio-is-a-tool says: May 7, 2010 9:50 AM

    Florio and Tebow are like Peter King and Favre.
    At least it’s baby steps in accepting homosexuality in the NFL.

  11. Chris Fiorentino says: May 7, 2010 9:51 AM

    I kinda thought it was pretty funny to hear Ray “obstruction of justice, not murder” Lewis rip Tim Tebow.
    Ray, want to know what is different about Tebow…he is one of the 3 greatest college players in the history of the sport.
    I honestly can’t stand Tim Tebow, and all the attention he gets, but it irks me to hear a jerkoff like Ray Lewis open his fat yap when, if he committed his crime today, he would probably be suspended a year.

  12. SATAN567 says: May 7, 2010 9:52 AM

    Last paragraph says it all. Tebow doesn’t carry himself the way the fan base sees him, and he’ll get along just fine in the Broncos locker room. That said, if guys do come down on him in the locker room, they need to look in the mirror. Coach McD may be a douche, but he is right when he talks about the ultimate team having a work ethic and passion like Tebow does. Love him or hate him, TT is a good dude and he will bust his ass for anybody that gives him a chance, and you have to like that, especially if he plays for your team.

  13. emoser says: May 7, 2010 9:52 AM

    Because Ray Lewis thinks murderers and players who dump bleach on their bastard son’s mother are the real role models…

  14. js136202 says: May 7, 2010 9:52 AM

    Who would have thought that in a league full of criminals, derelicts, prima donna’s, and spoiled entitled jackoffs, that the public would rally around a decent, respectable guy who has avoided getting in trouble and whose closest brush with controversy was doing a pro-life infomercial.
    I don’t like Tim Tebow personally, but I respect him as a person and definitely understand why a lot of people support him.
    I used to work for an NFL team and I got to see firsthand what kind of people a lot of these guys are. You begin to appreciate the few guys who really are decent people and treat fans and media with respect.

  15. .RebaTe says: May 7, 2010 9:52 AM

    What Ray? No race card?
    Or are you saving that for later?

  16. johnnydom says: May 7, 2010 9:52 AM

    Hey Ray-maybe we as NFL fans are all shocked that you are not behind bars where you belong. You killed someone and got away with it, and you know it. You will ultimately face your judge and jury someday, all Tebow did was have an unorthodox throwing motion and coaches liked his drive and determination. Oh by the way he is a good kid and a winner, that’s why he was helped. Did you help the guys in Atlanta? Nope.
    I can’t wait for you to retire so you will become irrelevant.

  17. contract says: May 7, 2010 9:52 AM

    Way too much man love for a 3rd string QB.

  18. joneildu says: May 7, 2010 9:52 AM

    The Miami coaches spent a long time with him, and I have a couple of theories on why. First, Miami coaches coached the senior bowl, so they had to spend time with him. Second, I honestly think some teams felt bad that he wasn’t developed at Florida and had an unfair shake. Now, I’m sure the fact that he had an outgoing personality and is extremely likable also had a lot to do with it. If he were a thug, I’m not so blinded to think that someone would have stepped up to help him. I just don’t think it’s as simple as Lewis was making it out to be during the interview.
    Honestly, that wasn’t even the best part of the interview, his ending salvo was fantastic. I love hearing Lewis speak.

  19. EddieB says: May 7, 2010 9:53 AM

    Red, you beat me to it.

  20. ClownBurger says: May 7, 2010 9:53 AM

    And all of this is Tebow’s fault…how?

  21. strongpimphand7 says: May 7, 2010 9:53 AM

    Well Ray Ray, he is a likeable guy that does a lot for other people. Good people like to help other good people. Outside of the cash that your accountant makes you donate to help with PR and taxes, what have you done to contribute to society? I think Tebow will be out of the league in 4 years but that is why people look to “help” him.

  22. -RoNiN- says: May 7, 2010 9:54 AM

    Unbelievable!! Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.. eh Florio?

  23. seageo7 says: May 7, 2010 9:55 AM

    What makes him different from other athletes wanting help???? How about Dez Bryant getting help from Deon Sanders?
    How about the fact that he carries himself in a complete different manner, not acting selfishly, and spends his spring breaks helping out the needy in third world countries…..yeah, I gues he is just like anyone else.
    And No veteran players thinking they are better???? Ummm, how about NO. Lets name a few…. Chad Ochocinco, Terrel Owens, Chris Johnson, Ben Burger, the whole NY Jets team…..we could go on and on.

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  25. Belichick Is God says: May 7, 2010 9:55 AM

    Ray does not feel blessed. Tim feels blessed.

  26. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: May 7, 2010 9:55 AM

    The light of GOD’s love shines down upon him.
    Also, he’s white.

  27. THE OPINION GUY says: May 7, 2010 9:55 AM

    Maybe people like poeple who do good things. Name one thing Ray Lewis did before he got away with MURDER?
    Maybe he doesn’t exxxxxpect respect, maybe he doesn;t care what others think.
    Also, I think Teboow has helped more kids than 99% of the league, now if we are talking how many kids he has fathers vs otehr players………….

  28. Big Stretch says: May 7, 2010 9:55 AM

    Hey Florio has Teblow let you get to third base yet?

  29. watson4524 says: May 7, 2010 9:55 AM

    Cmon, Ray. Jealous much? How stupid are you? Just b/c people are drawn to Tebow isn’t his problem. Should he act like a dooshbag like you?

  30. Wallacej says: May 7, 2010 9:56 AM

    So I guess Gruden didn’t also have Bradford, Clausen, and McCoy in his camp too?

  31. PortisPocketsSTR8 says: May 7, 2010 9:56 AM

    How can you call the man a killer???Were you there to see what happened? The glove didn’t fit!!!! Oh…my bad that’s OJ!!!

  32. cbrianwatkins says: May 7, 2010 9:57 AM

    being a Bronco’s fan, Tebow disgusts me, not as much as McDummy disgusts me, but he still disgusts me none the less
    with that being said, i can’t wait for this kid to get laid out by an NFL defender

  33. Panda_Claus says: May 7, 2010 9:57 AM

    Ray-Ray, people that are pleasant, humble and gracious tend to get other people willing to help them out, or to at least root for them. Seeing a young QB come into the league that doesn’t act like he already knows everything probably doesn’t hurt Tebow’s case either.
    Honestly, I also think some folks are hoping that Tebow will be the next Kurt Warner. With Warner’s retirement, there’s an opening for the League Good Guy role. And I don’t think Big Ben will be considered for that position.

  34. Chiefs2010 says: May 7, 2010 9:57 AM

    Ray Lewis needs to quit juicing and retire..
    He lost a step a few years ago, and last year he was much better..

  35. shinsnake says: May 7, 2010 9:57 AM

    Apparently Ray Lewis doesn’t read PFT on an hourly basis. He must have missed 15 or so anti-Tebow stories posted here during that time period.

  36. SteelCurtnDee says: May 7, 2010 9:58 AM

    I think Tebow only really needs to worry about his own teammates… and while some people might resent him in the locker room because of his popularity, my guess is if he puts in the work, and they see he’s not letting stuff go to his head, they’ll accept him.
    I believe Tebow will work hard, but I don’t think he doesn’t always milk the media… When he decided to come back to Florida I remember seeing him twice announcing it with his arm in a sling, totally playing cute like he wasn’t going to come back and milking the crowd, it made me want to barf.

  37. irishsamurai says: May 7, 2010 9:58 AM

    TheDukeMan70 says:
    May 7, 2010 9:46 AM
    So what Ray is saying here is that Tim Tibow will be the next person he kills. But its OK, we all know Ray cant go to jail for killing people
    ———————————————
    dont know anything about florios post,but what i take from this post is that,the duke man is an idiot,i dont seem to remeber lewis ever being accused of murder,so that must be you making stuff up,the funny thing is,if you were out with your buddies and they commited a heinous crime and you were questioned by the cops,you know you would not snitch on your buddy,so i guess that,that would make you guilty of the crime your buddy did,whatever you think of ray lewis,he is right in this case,i cannot remember any other player getting this much help and this much attention,the best part is that when he struggles[and yes he will],he will only have even more volunteers to help him be a better player

  38. gobearsgo says: May 7, 2010 9:58 AM

    Just win. That’s all that matters. If Tebow wins games, none of this will matter. If he loses, he could lose his team a lot faster because of all the hype.
    If he wins, his teammates won’t care.

  39. BABRonx says: May 7, 2010 9:58 AM

    Exactly DukeMan…….RayRay the killing machine. Florio, “Tebow’s bigger concern should be ironing out any hard feelings that may arise in his own locker room” I haven’t heard of anyone being upset at Tebow in the Broncos organization….you’re a purebred DICKSMACK

  40. Bwa Ha Ha says: May 7, 2010 9:59 AM

    Murderers generally get less respect than others

  41. jjared1101 says: May 7, 2010 9:59 AM

    It pains me to say this, but i listened to what Cowherd said about that yesterday.
    Cowherd was suggesting that Ray was making it a racial issue. He used the comparison of Andre Woodson and how he had a hitch in his throwing motion just like Tebow, but received not even half the help that Tebow got.

  42. kantnockdahustle89 says: May 7, 2010 9:59 AM

    Grow up DukeMan. Seriously.

  43. rjaxx says: May 7, 2010 10:00 AM

    TheDukeMan70 says:
    May 7, 2010 9:46 AM
    So what Ray is saying here is that Tim Tibow will be the next person he kills. But its OK, we all know Ray cant go to jail for killing people
    I almost pissed myself…. good one dukeman!

  44. MSWRavens says: May 7, 2010 10:00 AM

    The Duke Man – who did Ray kill? why would you say that???

  45. RaiderMight says: May 7, 2010 10:00 AM

    The Broncos fans will turn on him soon enough. They did it to Plummer, Cutler and now Orton.

  46. enders says: May 7, 2010 10:00 AM

    I hope Ray Lewis puts a career ending injury on this kid. I’m so tired of hearing about him.

  47. Sterling says: May 7, 2010 10:00 AM

    Tebow isn’t responsible for the fact that people offered to help him, though I’m sure he was grateful to receive the help. I don’t go around asking people to do favors for me, but if someone offers, I’ll accept it. If other NFL players make a target of him for that reason, then they’re wrong. Make a target of him for his own behavior, but not the behavior of others.
    And some of this “help” may have been evaluatory in nature. Tebow is a unique player in some respects: He’s a proven leader and a proven winner; he’s an unselfish person who spent his summers helping very poor people in foreign countries; he comes from a great background and has a terrific work ethic – no character issues, in other words – and he has a big, athletic body and can do a lot of things. I think a lot of teams felt he could transition to another position if the QB thing didn’t work out. Personally I think he’d make a great tight end. You don’t see that combination of things often in a player, though no doubt all the media attention showered on him was responsible for some of the help he got.

  48. BenRoethlisburger says: May 7, 2010 10:01 AM

    why not spin it like Jeebus vs the AntiChrist?
    yeah , that’s the ticket…!

  49. Heinekenfun says: May 7, 2010 10:01 AM

    I don’t disagree at all.., this Tebow has had NFL types bending over backwards to help him along, once the off-season began. As far as I can tell.., he’s at best.., a mediocre QB. Granted…, he’s a super do-gooder…, but who cares about that at kick-off? If I was a Denver fan, I’d be wondering why everyone loves to kiss this guys ass and be concerned about how this will affect the team. All this praise for mediocrity seems like a bad choice for the Bronco’s.

  50. Renoberger says: May 7, 2010 10:01 AM

    Cowherd tried to make this a black vs white issue yesterday. I think the fact that Tebow might be the best college player ever has something to do with his attention. And maybe Lewis was insinuating a white-black thing, but I didn’t see that. I’m a white Christian and I’m tired of the Tebow talk. I was wondering why he got so much attention. So just because Ray Lewis is black it becomes a racial issue? Come on Cowherd, quit this nonsense.

  51. CowHog says: May 7, 2010 10:01 AM

    I think Florio and Tebow may share the same agent

  52. Caldon says: May 7, 2010 10:01 AM

    Serious? Ray is one of the most “see me” people in the entire league – and I live in Baltimore and support the Ravens as my second team since they are the home team.
    Really Ray?

  53. KingJoe! says: May 7, 2010 10:02 AM

    Help, how about the help murders may have gotten from Ray. Ray should shut up and just face away.
    One day when the time is right, Ray can pull an LT and get back into the limelight.

  54. cmich06 says: May 7, 2010 10:02 AM

    Let’s see if Tebow is ever an accessory to murder and have 8 kids with different baby mammas…if he does then Ray can say what he wants, until then continue arriving late to the play and jumping on the pile for a half tackle stat

  55. antalicus says: May 7, 2010 10:02 AM

    Tebow got help from a lot of people because he was a great player in college and then when he was going to the NFL everyone was saying he couldn’t do it. Plain and simple. Of course people that disagreed would want to help him.

  56. seatofmypants says: May 7, 2010 10:03 AM

    This may be the first non hatchet jon you have performed on Tebow.
    Like every other athlete drafted last month, who knows how much success Tebow will have?
    However, he seems like a decent person, and indications are he is a man of his words – and lives that type of lifestyle.
    If that is true, how can you not root for him?
    I am a big NY Giants fan. We have had our share of athletes that have disappointed us with their off the field activities. As great as LT was on the field, there are times where i was surprised he was still alive to see 50.
    Tebow will get the opportunity to prove his critics wrong. If he does – great. If he doesn’t, he doesn’t.
    Why are so many people threatened by his devotion to his faith? Even his critics acknoweldge that he is a hard worker. (Roethlisberger and Vick are not viewed as hard workers) Let’s see what happens. I know I wish him well (except if he were to play against the Giants).

  57. winkel33 says: May 7, 2010 10:03 AM

    I am no Tim Tebow fan, but I don’t really see what Ray Lewis is talking about. If he doesn’t like all the attention, that is fine. But to be angry that he is getting all this help, just doesn’t make sense. Doesn’t it seem like any big time prospect now has hundreds of different avenues they can pursue to get help – wasn’t Dez Bryant getting help from Deon Sanders – didn’t that start all his problems? Didn’t Gruden meet with all the quarterback prospects? Ray Lewis should just stick to getting himself ready for the season – there are a lot of piles he needs to jump on after the tackle has been made and he needs to be ready for that.

  58. DarkHorse81 says: May 7, 2010 10:03 AM

    Timmy rah rah better learn to throw from the pocket because these aren’t the cupcakes that Florida schedules every year that Timmy Rah Rah runs over in college, and yes he will be a target the moment he steps on that field.

  59. TheVillain112 says: May 7, 2010 10:03 AM

    A lot of star players get extra attention/help.
    Take Ray Lewis for example, the official stat tracker always credits him with a couple of extra tackles every game. Don’t see him complaining about that.

  60. shaunypoo says: May 7, 2010 10:04 AM

    Lots of people help players who are coming into the league, but none of them have had the fanfare and praise heaped upon them, justifiably so, as Tebow has. I believe most of the people who are crowing about helping Tim are just wanted to get their name out there. If he is successful, they may have their name remembered for his success. If he is a failure, no one will remember much of what was said.
    Lewis loses some credibility when he says “He went to a big program, and, yes, he might be a favorable person, but nobody else in the league, definitely not veteran players, see themselves differently than any other player.”
    Ray, every player better have some kind of chip on their shoulder or they won’t last long. And how many players bitch and moan about contracts, playing time, etc? Happens on every team, so obviously some players see themselves differently than others.

  61. denvergodfather says: May 7, 2010 10:04 AM

    Sounds like ol Ray Ray is feelin a bit stabby!

  62. GTisMe says: May 7, 2010 10:05 AM

    took all of 3 posts for the Ray Lewis is a killer, you peeps have no creativity at all. 10 years of the same joke; come up with some new material ya pu$$y Duke fan!

  63. The Terminator says: May 7, 2010 10:06 AM

    Yea they NEVER found out who killed those two guys in GA…I guess they killed themselves…Ray should have come clean on it but so far he has stayed out of trouble and seems to have found a classier group of “friends” to hang out with….maybe Big Ben can do the same thing!

  64. HomelandDefense says: May 7, 2010 10:06 AM

    Im so sick of Ray Lewis running his mouth. Great player, so fun to watch, but I wish he would just shut it already.

  65. .Vox Veritas. says: May 7, 2010 10:06 AM

    “He went to a big program, and, yes, he might be a favorable person, but nobody else in the league, definitely not veteran players, see themselves differently than any other player.”
    Yeah, right. Things are going to get real stabby here real quick.

  66. Balla says: May 7, 2010 10:06 AM

    I hope that when Teblow is cut by the Broncos within three years that this website covers his exit from th eNFL with the same gusto that it is proclaiming his arrival.

  67. 39576 says: May 7, 2010 10:06 AM

    It’s not Tebow’s fault people want to help him. Sounds like a little racism from Lewis.

  68. joelvis72 says: May 7, 2010 10:07 AM

    Screw Ray Lewis.
    I said that once to Brian Cox from the Superdome stands when he played for the Dolphins and he almost came after me. Of course when he came to the Saints, I instantly loved him.

  69. ItalianArmyGuy says: May 7, 2010 10:07 AM

    Ray Lewis could easily have served the past 12 years in prison for his role in the stabbing murders of Richard Lollar and Jacinth Baker. The dude was on trial for murder, felony murder, and aggravated assault. He’s damm lucky, and got a lot of help himself to have any NFL career at all. He’s lucky to have been playing for a team like the Ravens who were willing to look the other way on his obstruction of justice conviction, and on Jamaal Lewis’s drug trafficking issues.
    Guys like Ray-Ray should not be complaining that good guys like Tebow are getting a break. Tebow may not have earned it on the field in the NFL yet, but he has earned it on the bigger field of life – where Ray himself has had some big failures. In fact, it’s because of guys like Ray, Jamaal, and my own Steelers’ qb Roethlisberger that Tebow is being given more credit for his “good-guy” act than for his throwing motion, and why “bad-boy” image guys like Clausen are having to wait their turn.

  70. BroncosFanTX77 says: May 7, 2010 10:07 AM

    Ray Lewis is just cting out on behalf of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Gruden didnt have Jarrett Brown or Armanti Edwards at his camp teaching them how to be a QB~

  71. doubldipp says: May 7, 2010 10:07 AM

    I don’t know if Lewis is trippin or Florio making up shit again, mostlikely the second one.

  72. BenRoethlisburger says: May 7, 2010 10:07 AM

    # The Real Shuxion says: May 7, 2010 9:48 AM
    “However he kept his mouth shut and made sure his boys did too preventing the family of the victum of getting any kind of justice which in itself is disgusting.”
    No he didn’t……!
    He sang like a f_cking canary and sold his homeboys out to keep his own ass out of the slammer. Then he cut the victim’s family a nice check….

  73. Hooj says: May 7, 2010 10:08 AM

    EVERY THREAD REGARDING RAY LEWIS BRINGS OUT TROLLS WHO REHASH INCIDENTS THEY HAVE 0 KNOWLEDGE OF THAT ARE OVER 10 YEARS OLD. TOO MANY PATHETIC POSTERS ON HERE.
    Filter that shit out Florio. Stop letting these idiots post the same shit and make people speak intelligently.

  74. borg says: May 7, 2010 10:09 AM

    What’s Ray Ray talking about? Support? I seem to remember all the lawyer support he took when obfiscating a murder investigation. Maybe ex-coaches, advisors, and in general- solid football people see something in Tebow that the league lacks…a selfless guy absent a sense of entitlement, a guy that treats people with respect …not trying to screw em in the bathroom…or pay for sex with a monor. Ray Ray is blessed that his “personna” kept him out of jail. Too bad the facts of that murder never were disclosed….thanks to the bloviator’s excellent “support team.”

  75. olskool711 says: May 7, 2010 10:09 AM

    So do we believe this supposed born again Christian, who appears to be more Christian when dealing with Black people than white ones?
    Or, do we listen to the journalists in Denver, who although are admitted Tebow haters, are still concerned about how viscious some of their peers are towards Tebow and how classy he is when responding to them?
    Who cares what lewis says?
    cue the “go murder somebody” rants:

  76. shiftyshellshocked says: May 7, 2010 10:09 AM

    Jealous Ray? The NFL needs a guy like Tebow. I don’t care how many of you guys think these over paid players should be low lives instead of role models, it’s about time for a new face in the NFL.

  77. BenRoethlisburger says: May 7, 2010 10:09 AM

    Maybe Ray oughta give his buddies Al & Jesse a call.
    They’ll make this right.

  78. Bdrunk says: May 7, 2010 10:10 AM

    Srsly Ray, have you ever looked into Tebow’s eyes? It was like the first time I heard the Beatles…

  79. woodsidegil says: May 7, 2010 10:10 AM

    Why does it bother Lewis so much that people are willing to offer help to Tebow? Am I reading something incorrectly into this but is this Ray’s veiled perception that race is a factor here? I suspect that there are a lot of folks out there that are pulling for Tebow because members of the media and a number of “fans” object to his strong religious beliefs.

  80. notoriousbri says: May 7, 2010 10:11 AM

    Tebow has that Brett Favre thing going on.. and THATS disgusting. Its all Tebow all the time and its disgusting. I guess he is the Great White Hope like a White heavyweight.. its madness and I cant wait for him to hold a clipboard and hear the broadcasters talk about how well he holds the clipboard and prepares the scout team.

  81. DonTerrelli says: May 7, 2010 10:12 AM

    Tim Tebow never stabbed anyone.

  82. BigBaldPapaHawk says: May 7, 2010 10:13 AM

    Lol, so Tebow seeks out extra coaching to get better and to help him compete at the NFL level and now it is considered extra attention?
    That is not extra attention… that is WORK ETHIC. The kid is working hard.

  83. Legend says: May 7, 2010 10:14 AM

    It’s amazing to me how many people hate this kid. It’s irrational.

  84. straverse says: May 7, 2010 10:14 AM

    Tebow’s not starting any of this himself, its all media driven. Jon Gruden is a member of the media right now, not a football coach. Its not like he was putting his team at a disadvantage by helping an opposing player. He was working with Tebow because doing that helped his career as an analyst. He also worked with Clausen, Bradford, and McCoy.
    Everyone just needs to relax and let this kid play ball. I understand hating on someone that doesn’t put in the time (like Jamarcus Russell), but Tebow’s going to be working his ass off. Don’t we root for people like that in this country? He’s kind of like Rudy.

  85. Drat says: May 7, 2010 10:15 AM

    Hey, Ray-Ray, if you don’t love him, just stab him. Why all this girlie talk?

  86. Tinbender says: May 7, 2010 10:15 AM

    Ray, you are scum. Good people help good people. Get a hug from the scum you hang out with.

  87. VaBthang4 says: May 7, 2010 10:16 AM

    Why did you move this from where it was originally posted….to the top of the news this morning?

  88. Mean D says: May 7, 2010 10:16 AM

    # enders says: May 7, 2010 10:00 AM
    I hope Ray Lewis puts a career ending injury on this kid. I’m so tired of hearing about him.
    You are a true shitbag, enders. Come to Atlanta and I will put a career ending injury on you.
    You weak and self righteous turds make me sick.

  89. King Benny says: May 7, 2010 10:16 AM

    “Again, it all comes down to how Tebow handles himself. And though others might see Tebow “differently than any other player,” we don’t believe Tebow carries himself in a way that suggests that he sees himself differently. And we think that if Tebow handles himself the way he always has, he’ll win his teammates over and, in time, his foes.”
    Couldn’t said it better myself. Media creates these “giants”.
    So long as Tebow doesn’t act like an ass he’ll be fine. Seems like Ray Ray “The humblest person you’ll ever know” is a bit jeleous of the media drooling over Tebow vs. him at this point in time.

  90. DallasRavens says: May 7, 2010 10:18 AM

    irishsamurai says:
    May 7, 2010 9:58 AM
    TheDukeMan70 says:
    May 7, 2010 9:46 AM
    So what Ray is saying here is that Tim Tibow will be the next person he kills. But its OK, we all know Ray cant go to jail for killing people
    ———————————————
    dont know anything about florios post,but what i take from this post is that,the duke man is an idiot,i dont seem to remeber lewis ever being accused of murder,so that must be you making stuff up,the funny thing is,if you were out with your buddies and they commited a heinous crime and you were questioned by the cops,you know you would not snitch on your buddy,so i guess that,that would make you guilty of the crime your buddy did,whatever you think of ray lewis,he is right in this case,i cannot remember any other player getting this much help and this much attention,the best part is that when he struggles[and yes he will],he will only have even more volunteers to help him be a better player
    Couldn’t have said it any better myself….
    Also, we all hate NFL players that are studs on opposing teams….Lewis is the best linebacker in NFL history…you can argue that if you want but his play has proven that over the years… I love Ray Lewis articles on this site…the comment sections are so predictable….
    Lastly, Florio its been a while since you posted an article on Brett Farve…. are we due?

  91. ethan robert says: May 7, 2010 10:20 AM

    I saw all the things that McDaniel mentions before the draft, but it baffles me that people seem so surprised. It isn’t like Tebow is one of these phenoms that is discovered when a scout stops for gas in some mountain hamlet and the local folk tell him about the kid who can throw a football across the river into a barrel, jump over 8 foot fences, and beat a horse in a footrace. The guy has been considered the best prospect of his age group since he was 8 years old or so. There are reasons for that.

  92. rydendonkeys says: May 7, 2010 10:20 AM

    He won the Heisman as a sophmore, and had major mechanical problems that with good coaching could be corrected.
    Coaching him up took him from 3rd round to first round, a difference of like $15 million to Tebow.
    Tebow is a good guy, people like him, and it’s no wonder he got help, and those that helped him I’m sure were compensated well.

  93. Realistic Randy says: May 7, 2010 10:20 AM

    it’s like getting away with murder.. oh wait

  94. Jon Snow says: May 7, 2010 10:22 AM

    Some feel that Denver fans are too hard on their QBs, expect too much of them, and place them on a pedestal. It’s probably true, but Tebow seems like a guy that will embrace that and not let it bother him or his play; and perhaps (GASP) even live up to many of those expectations.
    He’s hard not to like and exhibits a flavor of leadership that works – people WANT to be around him – they WANT to help him – they WANT to be a part of whatever Tebow is cooking. That’s not his fault – it’s his virtue. And people see it and like it.
    Don’t blame Florio… he’s only human… and Tebow’s not.

  95. ninjapleazee says: May 7, 2010 10:22 AM

    mancrush

  96. Holeinone09 says: May 7, 2010 10:23 AM

    @MSWRavens says:
    May 7, 2010 10:00 AM
    The Duke Man – who did Ray kill? why would you say that???
    * * * * *
    I could ask you (based on all your associated prior posts), who did Ben rape?
    Get it?

  97. JimmySmith says: May 7, 2010 10:24 AM

    Ray Ray will stab someone in the back, geez, who would have thought?

  98. RossyRoss says: May 7, 2010 10:24 AM

    The coach of this team won’t last long so it won’t matter what he thinks.

  99. BenInAZ says: May 7, 2010 10:24 AM

    Just like I teach my kids, Ray-Ray……when you’re a naturally good person, people respond to it. They go out of their way to help you and it can take you far in life. On the other hand, if you’re a dirtbag that has skills, people will just use you for those skills.

  100. DemocratsAreStupid says: May 7, 2010 10:24 AM

    I agree with Ray, Tebow is a nice guy but he gets way too much hype. There’s a lot of talented drafted players who do a ton of community work, i.e Dexter McCluster, who didn’t get the hype.
    As for Ray covering anything up, I remember the day of his trial he spilled the beans on his boys. In fact, Jim Rome went on a 15 minute rant on how shocked he was that Ray wasn’t like everyone else. He did tell the truth, Rome even apologized to Ray for attacking him on what he thought Ray would say.
    Unfortunately, the D.A. in ATL is a moron to the level of Christopher Darden and the other two jabroneys got away.

  101. LTC Pain says: May 7, 2010 10:24 AM

    A butt Pirate like Ray Lewis who was involved in a murder, lied about it and would not cooperate with law enforcement has zero credibility to say anything about Tim Tebow whose only faults are that he’s a winner, role model, Christian, and possesses a high level of character and integrity.

  102. Cubano says: May 7, 2010 10:25 AM

    Damn Ray Ray, it’s like Tebow killed a brotha or something……….oh wait!

  103. dcbronco says: May 7, 2010 10:25 AM

    People got hyped by Tebow. Maybe because he’s a JF. But it won’t make a difference on Sundays. He may never be a starting NFL QB. Well, Josh McDaneils is an idiot so he will be a starter, but he most likely will never be a successful starter. But the reality is a lot of people got caught up in the hype. Including professionals. And he received more help than he deserved. Some were in it for a potential future payday for themselves. Some because they are JFs. The country is full of QBs from systems that didn’t prepare them for the NFL and they should get the same chance. But instead of complaining, Ray and some of those other vets should spend less time at the club and do it themselves.

  104. Alfie says: May 7, 2010 10:25 AM

    Ray Ray has a point.
    Where was all this help for Andre Woodson? Armanti Edwards? Jarrett Brown?

  105. giocatore4 says: May 7, 2010 10:26 AM

    Not sure what that rambling above was about (or maybe I just misinterpreted the word “remeber”), but people post about Lewis negatively because he WAS accused of murder, and turned on his buddies to get the charges lessened.
    “Following a Super Bowl XXXIV party in Atlanta on January 31, 2000, a fight broke out between him and another group of people, resulting in the stabbing deaths of Jacinth Baker and Richard Lollar. Lewis and two companions, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting, were brought to an Atlanta police station for questioning. Eleven days later, the three were indicted on murder and aggravated assault charges.
    Lewis’s attorney arranged for the murder charges against Lewis to be dropped in exchange for his testimony against Oakley and Sweeting, and a guilty plea to a misdemeanor charge of obstruction of justice.”
    I am a big fan of Ray Lewis on the field, but he made his own bed in this case.

  106. Bdrunk says: May 7, 2010 10:26 AM

    He needs to be built up as much as possible. Because, and I don’t wish ill will on him mind you, the more buildup, the more fun the fall from grace is to watch from the confines of my Mom’s basement. Kinda like watching the 18-1 P*ts season for me.

  107. bradleygator says: May 7, 2010 10:27 AM

    Mabye Tebow can go out and stab a bitch to win over the lockerroom.

  108. spdy3450 says: May 7, 2010 10:27 AM

    Wow most of you are complete idiots! I heard the interview and there was absolutely nothing malicious about Ray’s comments. When he mentioned the quote above it was said with a sense of wonderment and confusion.
    There are plenty of “good guy” players in the legue that have never gotten the attention and help Tebow is getting and Ray’s comment is a legit one.

  109. Don Olmstead says: May 7, 2010 10:29 AM

    Last time I checked Mr. Lewis got a ton of help to get him off (OJ style) of a murder charge in Hotlanta. Colin Cowherd is a big blowhard, and has a big axe to grind against Josh McDaniels and Tim Tebow for various reasons, so those two can have each other.
    I think Mr. Lewis is upset that he won’t be the Bid Dawg on campus for much longer, while Tebow will be while he dominates the NFL for years to come.

  110. CE11 says: May 7, 2010 10:29 AM

    Ray is being a pansy about this. I don’t really even like lil’ Timmy and I believe that. Quarterback just get more attention period, especially quarterbacks that are vocal super-Christians and have accomplished in the college game what Tebow has.
    Tebow was one of greatest college quarterbacks of all time, and received unbelievable amounts of criticism leading up to the draft for various reasons. A lot of people saw this and felt it unfair; he probably was offered some assistance in response to the criticisms and took advantage of it. He worked hard and those people jumped on his dong with the rest of the world.
    Gruden likes him because he sees game-changing potential and a tremendous competitive fire, which he has publicly stated numerous times.
    I remember DeSean Jackson got a lot of help from JERRY RICE before the draft, but no one protested that– to be honest, I think many of these players are offered additional coaching but have too much pride to accept it.
    Big freakin deal Ray, stop being a baby– either he’s good in the pros or he’s not. Just because Tebow is the new popular kid doesn’t mean he needs to whine about this.

  111. Dixon29 says: May 7, 2010 10:30 AM

    Ray Lewis is a loud mouthed punk. Great football player, and he does many things for charity, but his statements about Tebow are ridiculous.
    People want to help Tebow because they can sense that he truly is a good person. The guy has more then just the “it” factor. He loves the Lord, loves his family, and is an incredible leader on the football field.
    All that being said, did Denver reach for him in the first round? Yes, they most certainly did.
    Can someone please tell Ray Lewis to just shut up, PLEASE!

  112. vanhelsing says: May 7, 2010 10:30 AM

    A killing didnt shock “now preacher” ray ray.
    but tebow does.
    welcome to obama’s katrina-ized america.

  113. kbar69 says: May 7, 2010 10:30 AM

    Far be it for a professional athlete to be getting preferential treatment…right Ray?

  114. pramis123 says: May 7, 2010 10:31 AM

    Being a huge UM fan and a huge Ray fan, I am disapointed by him making this type of comment, as he comes off as jealous. Tebow is a greater marketing commodity than any other rookie in the history of the league as evidenced from his jersey sales, so the league and many other individuals understand the he can generate alot of money for alot of people. Also, he plays the glamor position of QB, and QB;s get more help/publicity than usually any other position. I remember when Miami drafted Marino towards the later stages of the first round, and not only did South Florida go crazy with it but it became a national story for many reasons.

  115. Brewster says: May 7, 2010 10:34 AM

    “or Tebow and the head coach, who proclaimed this week that Tebow has the “it” factor.”
    ____________________
    If Tebow’s head coach, Josh McDaniels had any idea of what the “it” factor looked like he wouldn’t have wasted draft picks to move up to acquire players like Alphonso Smith, Richard Quinn and Tim Tebow.
    The McDaniels love affair with Tebow in the Denver media, whether it’s real or imaginary, will not play well in the Denver locker room. Just another indication of McDaniel’s inability to effectively manage people.
    And for those posters who keep commenting on how special Tebow is because of his charity work, which is commendable, should take the time to visit the NFLPA website and do a search on all of the NFL players who have charitable foundations and do regular charity or community work. It is a significant number, hell even Brandon Marshall did weekly charity work while he was in Denver.

  116. scorpiodsu says: May 7, 2010 10:34 AM

    Ray is right. I’m not saying people shouldn’t help him but it is a little surprising how everyone wants to hep him so much but there are plenty of other guys who come into the league that could use help or a mentor in the same way but they are ignored. And I’m not talking about guys that are idiots or jerks. There are plenty of likeable (none as hyped as tebow) players that come into the league each year that could use some attention. Once again, not saying he shouldn’t receive help, but where’s the help for everyone else? What is it besides his personality that makes people want to help him succeed but not help others. Everyone has their own agenda.

  117. Swedish Mafia says: May 7, 2010 10:35 AM

    ah the lack of logical thinking that can come from someone who decides it’s a good idea to kill another human being…
    ….it’s wierd how people want to be around you and help you out when you’re not a dick. That’s genius right there….
    I don’t care if Tebow is religious or not…don’t crucify him for being a nice guy and standing for something besides himself. The reason this is so newsworthy is because he is in a class by himself….athletes today are only looking for their big payday but Tebow seems to be above all that…props to him

  118. kjmatsagas says: May 7, 2010 10:35 AM

    It’s reassuring to read and realize that most people understand what a dispicable individual Ray Lewis is. All of a sudden Ray Lewis thinks Tim Tebow has recieved to much help. How much help did Ray Lewis get in beating the murder rap? Surely the media types can find somebody intelligent to speak on subjects as opposed an idiot like Ray Lewis.

  119. therewasone says: May 7, 2010 10:35 AM

    Maybe Tebow is just more likable then those thugs Ray is concerned about?

  120. finney2112 says: May 7, 2010 10:35 AM

    I love how many douchebags come out here to hate on Ray Lewis and completely ignore the topic of the post. It’s ok, I understand that all of you are jealous that you’re teams don’t have the best middle linebacker of all time. Don’t believe me? Look at his stats… or the fact he’s the greatest football leader of his generation… or his Super Bowl MVP… But hey, all the unintelligent jerks just like to come on here and rip him for something he a.) didn’t do and b.) wasn’t charged for. And until you put yourself in his shoes, you cannot say you’d act differently and rat your best friends out to the police on the spot. So please, show a great family man and the greatest middle linebacker of all time some respect.
    And he is completely correct on the Tebow issue. I never hope for failure from anyone but if Tebow doesn’t succeed as a quarterback, it wouldn’t break my heart to see him converted to an H back by the Patriots down the road. He’s the most hyped player I’ve ever seen coming out of college who wasn’t a top five pick, and to be quite honest, I believe the 25th pick was way too high.

  121. jj jones says: May 7, 2010 10:36 AM

    I don’t understand how Gruden is allowed to mentor Tebow and then go on the air and talk about his being drafted as an analyst. Bias?

  122. raybow33 says: May 7, 2010 10:37 AM

    Well Ray Lewis feels Tim Tebow is getting special treament awwww!!! jealous Ray?
    I’m going to dispense with the He’s a muderer bull sh** but he did know who killed those two people in Georgia in 2000, and yet never was forthecoming with that info because his peeps kept quiet during his “trial”, so naturally he couldn’t rat on them.
    so Basically Ray Lewis obstructed justice, never gave any information to police to help solve a double homicide that for all intents and purposes he witnessed, so that the families of the victim’s could never get closure, yet he feels he has the right to comment on the “preferential treatment” of Tim Tebow who by all accounts is a devout religious person with some semblance of moral’s.
    thanks Ray i’d rather watch Snooky get punched in the face a zillion times on youtube than listen to your’e idiotic drivel. once a gansta always a gansta!

  123. cmich06 says: May 7, 2010 10:38 AM

    # strongpimphand7 says: May 7, 2010 9:53 AM
    Well Ray Ray, he is a likeable guy that does a lot for other people. Good people like to help other good people. Outside of the cash that your accountant makes you donate to help with PR and taxes, what have you done to contribute to society? I think Tebow will be out of the league in 4 years but that is why people look to “help” him.
    Well, he did contribute 7 kids who are growing up with a monthly check in place of a father, so he has that going for him

  124. NittanyBigCats says: May 7, 2010 10:39 AM

    Leave it to Ray Ray to take a “stab” at this. What’s wrong? Is he bored? Hasn’t his posse killed anyone lately

  125. jwill007 says: May 7, 2010 10:39 AM

    Why havent they worked with other QB’s to develop them like they have with Tebow??? He has received UNPRECEDENTED SUPPORT for player with his skill level…
    The funny thing is if this was a black QB 8 out of 10 times with Tebow skills he is being told to “switch positions” to WR, CB, RB or something similar…..
    YOU CANT EVEN DENY THAT!

  126. lemmyk73 says: May 7, 2010 10:42 AM

    Tebow is a fraud. Nobody is that pure and nice. Guarantee we will hear about assaults and vile behavior from him.
    They helped him out because the JEsus freaks love him and he is a cash cow for the NFL now.
    With all of the negative publicity toward the NFL this past year, Tebow with his religion is a counter to the “thugs” we have seen in the past- mind you, it is all a fraud.
    Tebow does not have the talent to live up to the expectations. Short of a Super Bowl THIS YEAR, he will fail.

  127. JoeSchmoe says: May 7, 2010 10:42 AM

    God I love PFT comments!!!!
    Ray takes a stab at Tebow…
    Jebow…
    Happy Friday!

  128. Doctor Doom says: May 7, 2010 10:42 AM

    Didn’t Ray Lewis retire?

  129. Murphy says: May 7, 2010 10:43 AM

    Was Tebow helped for “free” or did he pay for the extra coaching? If he paid for the coaching it just sounds like a smart move on his part. Does anyone know?
    Re: his popularity and attention – is that his fault or the medias? I think he’s handled it pretty well considering his age.

  130. casper67 says: May 7, 2010 10:43 AM

    Ray – he gets help because he is a good human being unlike you. You are a filthy animal who should be in prison…

  131. Duan says: May 7, 2010 10:45 AM

    Well I knew race was going to come into play sooner or later, especially with a black guy – such as Ray Lewis questioning all the hype and the guy hasn’t even played a down!?
    I’m a black man, college football fan – I will admit that much on a place where I can’t show my face. I think Tim Tebow is a great kid. He won me over after the game when Flordia lost to Ole Miss. He gave that speech about no one will out work him and he will shoulder the team and then he said “God Bless” and walked away from the podium! It was stoic, classic, it made you fall in love with the kid! He cared! It mattered to him, how can you not admire a young man “THAT GETS IT!”
    But here is my gripe, Charlie Ward! Charlie Ward had all the same tangibles as Tim Tebow. 3 sport athlete, god fearing, surrogate brother to incoming freshman, SGA Vice-President, stellar community service work, won the heisman trophy, won a national championship – matter of fact got the school its first championship in Football! THE MAN DIDN’T EVEN GET DRAFTED! NO ONE EVEN GAVE HIM A CHANCE! NO ONE!
    But Tim Tebow is given the benefit of the doubt! You see all these white football analysts saying, “We can tweak this, we can tweak that, don’t change him, let’em play!” Charlie Ward was told he needed to switch to WR or Flanker.
    That’s why some people are upset, because it’s preferential treatment, because he’s easy on the eye’s, he’s humble, he’s the right color!
    But I will say this, it’s nice to see him come up, he will work hard, he will give 1,000% – but he shouldn’t have been drafted in the 1st round and as real football fanatics, if Charlie Ward can go undrafted – Tim Tebow should have been drafted after the 3rd round!

  132. el_dude00 says: May 7, 2010 10:45 AM

    Sorry, RayRay, but your statement lost ALL credibility right there, with that ridiculous assertion. The league is FULL of divas and other cretins who feel they’re above the law, worthy of special treatment, better than teammates/coaches/management, etc.
    Nothing to see here, drive through. -6250claimer says:
    Couldn’t agree more.
    Stupid Ray Ray. I can’t wait until this guy joins some TV crew. He’s gonna be awesome. What a hypocrite.
    As a Broncos fan, I don’t give a shit how players and fans feel about Tebow. When you go 8-8 two years in a row, you should be pissed at everybody. If this guy can help us win, good, if not cut his ass.
    We are not overpaying the guy. Now shut it.

  133. Old School says: May 7, 2010 10:46 AM

    Never been much of a Tim Tebow fan, but when he comes under attack by a ghetto thug like Ray Lewis, that could change.
    When Lewis finally leaves football, he’ll probably tryout as an Al Sharpton wannabe. What a POS.

  134. Shawn says: May 7, 2010 10:48 AM

    Tim Tebow is a devout Christian and that goes far in anything ranging from sports to politics. Could you imagine if the president were to come out and say that he’s not a christian? hell the U.S. people would want him impeached. So Think of Tebow in that manner. So if you want to make it big in the nfl(in this case) just tell everyone that you love god and your a nice guy.

  135. straverse says: May 7, 2010 10:48 AM

    CE11 nailed it.

  136. straverse says: May 7, 2010 10:50 AM

    …I’d give him (CE11) a “5” rating, BUT YOU STILL HAVEN’T REINSTALLED THE COMMENT RATINGS!!! Its the offseason. Lets get on that Florio.

  137. The Curse of Bobby Layne Part 2 says: May 7, 2010 10:50 AM

    It amazes me in this world how we want good people to fail, and bad people to succeed. Or, a good person is demonized and every flaw exposed until they are destroyed!
    I like how when ray makes a big play he does that thing with his hands where he’s ripping out of something invisible and then stomps through as to say look at ME!!! Here I am world, look at ME!!!
    Even so, I forgive ray for the way he is.
    Now, with that, Ray’s point is simply that the media (Gruden included) has blown Tebow’s story so out of porportion, that he has gotten waaaaay more attention than anyone else who has ever tried to make it in the NFL.
    That’s a fact.

  138. JustRay says: May 7, 2010 10:51 AM

    Well Ray its like this. The NFL is full of thugs, plan out. Tebow, no matter how much people hate him is a good kid. The NFL is hoping to save face so they made sure he got draft. He is good for the sport.

  139. branchbranch says: May 7, 2010 10:51 AM

    Alfie and other idiots who make responses like this…
    “Where was all this help for Andre Woodson? Armanti Edwards? Jarrett Brown?”
    For the record…I’m not a Florida or Tebow guy, but I’m also not a hater of someone just because they win. I actually am an ACC alum so all things equal I tend to root against the SEC.
    People tend not to take the same time and investment on losers like you mentioned versus 2 time national championship and heisman winners. Make the same argument for some white QBS. I hate it when whiney black people see a white guy getting some love and look for some sort of “media affirmative action”. You really compared those three losers to Tebow. That is why there will never be progress in the racial issues in this country. You want everything for whether you deserve it or not and when you dont you blame it on race. If Andre Woodson won 2 championships, 2 Heismans, and was the most charitable college player in history, he probably would have gotten some more attention and consequently a little extra guidance. And for the record, the piece Gruden did was a piece by ESPN aimed at the 4 top QB prospects in this draft. Stop hating on Tebow you racist jerk.

  140. ChicagoJo says: May 7, 2010 10:51 AM

    Ray Lewis is NOT the best linebacker in NFL history. That honor belongs to Dick Butkus.
    He is, however, the man. For all of you haters on here complaining about him showing up to a pile late and getting credit for a tackle… you know that’s an unofficial stat, right? NFL and each team comes up with their own numbers on gameday and then adjusts the number after film review. I’m pretty sure he’s not getting credit for many tackles he doesn’t deserve.
    Besides which, don’t you want your defensive players, particularly LBs, attacking the point of the play every down until the whistle is blown? It’s astounding to me the BS you people come up with… I’m sure if he didn’t do that this year you would all say he gives up on plays.
    God, can’t any of you think objectively? I hate the packers with a passion but Aaron Rodgers is one of the top 5 QBs in the league, and I actually think he’s better than Brady. See, is that so hard? I love the 3-4 they run now, too.
    You’re all a bunch of tools. It must be hilarious to see you change your tune when these players you hate on get traded to your team. I guess I take solace in the fact that I probably enjoy watching this sport a lot more without hating everyone not on my team and failing to recognize a majority of the talent in the league.

  141. jakenelwood says: May 7, 2010 10:52 AM

    This is an odd comment for Ray Ray to say. He comes off as being a jealous little baby. Even worse, I dont think the comment is true. What help did Tebow get besides that from his coaches at Florida? Gruden liked him, but didnt “help” him. I dont see how appearing for 6 minutes on Grudens QB Camp gives Tebow some kind of edge. If anything, Tebow’s gone under more scrutiny and suffered more critisism than any other player in recent history. Get over it Ray Ray, worry about your own team.

  142. EverybodyGotAIDS says: May 7, 2010 10:52 AM

    Ray better watch out for lightning bolts. You don’t mess with Dejesus

  143. scorpiodsu says: May 7, 2010 10:52 AM

    When will Tebow be on the cover of Madden?

  144. .Vox Veritas. says: May 7, 2010 10:52 AM

    “Where was all this help for Andre Woodson? Armanti Edwards? Jarrett Brown?”
    Good question. Why wasn’t RayLew helping them?

  145. RedMan says: May 7, 2010 10:53 AM

    To all the morons saying “Ray got away with murder” – are you dumb or just plain stupid?
    These are the same idiots that would be calling him a “rat” if he gave evidence against the real murderers.
    Do a little research – Ray is one of the good guys.
    And he’s right, when was the last time a bunch of NFL coaches bent over backwards to help a “project” QB that barely runs a 4.7 forty? His attitude must be truly unique but he better learn how to throw in a hurry, cause he ain’t running past anyone in the league with that speed.
    Then again, he can always be a missionary – which in many ways is a much better life than the fishbowl of the NFL… A life lived in service of others – not so bad at all.

  146. Citizen Strange says: May 7, 2010 10:55 AM

    Ray Lewis gets PLENTY of help with the hometown scorers crazily padding his stats by giving Lewis credit for any tackle the Raven’s defense makes that Lewis is within 10 yards of or for that matter even sees and sometimes even giving Lewis credit for tackles made by the opponent’s defense when the Raven offense is on the field and Lewis is on the sideline.

  147. Philly Cheese says: May 7, 2010 10:55 AM

    vanhelsing says:
    May 7, 2010 10:30 AM
    A killing didnt shock “now preacher” ray ray.
    but tebow does.
    welcome to obama’s katrina-ized america.
    Keep your politics to yourself or find another site.

  148. Who is Mike Jones says: May 7, 2010 10:58 AM

    Ray-When the student is ready, the teacher will appear! Tebow is a modern day version of Seabiscuit and we can thank the media for this. He’s a long shot with that revamped throwing motion. His success is contigent on his ability to read defenses, throw to the 3rd and 4th receivers, and make that game changing audible at the line of scrimmage with under two minutes in the game. Todays successful QB has to multi task and attack the defense’s weakest link. I say crown his azz!

  149. claytonbigsby says: May 7, 2010 10:58 AM

    Will all this Tebow hype, this may be a scandal waiting to happen. A holy virgin man, who wears his religion on his ..er… cheeks, savior of the Broncos, circumciser of babes! That is too much pressure to put on a young man. Give it five years, and we will have a sex scandal.

  150. encinitasraider says: May 7, 2010 11:02 AM

    TEBOW IS THE NEXT NFL BUST

  151. claytonbigsby says: May 7, 2010 11:04 AM

    We may end up paraphrasing the great Denny Green: That’s why we take the damn field. Now if you want to crown him, then crown his ass! But he is who we thought he was! And we let him off the hook!

  152. Backlund in 2012 says: May 7, 2010 11:06 AM

    Ray Lewis is a great player and I’ve always been a big fan of his, but what I don’t understand is that I thought he was such a man of God these past few years.
    Why would he have a problem with another one of the Christian warriors getting help? Isn’t that what it’s all about, helping out your fellow man?
    So people want to go the extra mile to help Tim Tebow, who cares?
    I’m not a Christian, but I admire that Tebow does a lot of things to help other people. I find it sad that everybody wants to tear him down. If the worst thing he does in his NFL life is a pro-life ad, then he’s doing better than 95% of the players in the NFL.

  153. seatofmypants says: May 7, 2010 11:06 AM

    Duan says:
    May 7, 2010 10:45 AM
    But here is my gripe, Charlie Ward! Charlie Ward had all the same tangibles as Tim Tebow. 3 sport athlete, god fearing, surrogate brother to incoming freshman, SGA Vice-President, stellar community service work, won the heisman trophy, won a national championship – matter of fact got the school its first championship in Football! THE MAN DIDN’T EVEN GET DRAFTED! NO ONE EVEN GAVE HIM A CHANCE! NO ONE!
    _________________________________
    Um, not 100% true about Charlie Ward. Charlie Ward felt he was a First Round Pick. The league did not. He made it known if he was not drafted in the first round, he would play basketball.
    He was drafted in the first round – by the NY Knicks – and he never looked back.

  154. John El Way says: May 7, 2010 11:06 AM

    Ray Lewis is scum

  155. Klassix says: May 7, 2010 11:07 AM

    Give it a rest people…
    Ray Lewis was asked a straight forward question and gave a straight forward answer. Its not like he called Colin Cowherd to talk down about Tim Tebow. He was asked how he felt about the attention? And whatever way you feel about Ray Lewis, it was clear to anyone that Tim Tebow received way more attention and publicity than any other draft pick. Just because you don’t like Ray Lewis doesn’t mean he isn’t right.
    I hope all of you who have taken this “morality stand” about Ray Lewis for his past feel the same way about him when he is destroying some RB in the backfield. Seems like people only want to call him a murderer or thug when they seem fit.

  156. paul says: May 7, 2010 11:09 AM

    Maybe Ray Lewis will stab him.

  157. cantonfroggy says: May 7, 2010 11:12 AM

    Tim has always viewed himself differently from everyone else. Ask him why he was so quick to leave the field and not shake hands with his opponents after losses to LSU, Georgia, Alabama, Michigan.
    The real issue is that Tebow is not so magnanimous in defeat. Don’t believe me watch the post game highlights from any of those losses. Tebow made a bee-line for the locker room and was almost always one of the first FLA players off the field.

  158. enders says: May 7, 2010 11:13 AM

    # Mean D says: May 7, 2010 10:16 AM
    # enders says: May 7, 2010 10:00 AM
    I hope Ray Lewis puts a career ending injury on this kid. I’m so tired of hearing about him.
    You are a true shitbag, enders. Come to Atlanta and I will put a career ending injury on you.
    You weak and self righteous turds make me sick.
    u mad bro?
    It’d be funny watching him roll around on the ground in pain crying to god.

  159. thepittsburghkid says: May 7, 2010 11:14 AM

    god wont help Tebow win NFL football games. He will be outed for what he really is, a really good college QB.

  160. Rasta says: May 7, 2010 11:16 AM

    God will take care of his only begotten grandson, just as he takes care of the pedophile priest
    What hypocrites the whole bunch are!

  161. FreeAgentPro says: May 7, 2010 11:21 AM

    Tim Tebow’s attention is just ‘killing’ Lewis – which is a turn around Lewis. Meybe Tebow will be cited for ‘obstruction’ for the killing – a page out of Lewis’ book.

  162. BigMikeSkinsFan says: May 7, 2010 11:22 AM

    Im shocked that murderer didnt come right out and say it was racist. get over it Ray, people gravitate to good people.

  163. HarrisonHits says: May 7, 2010 11:22 AM

    “but nobody else in the league, definitely not veteran players, see themselves differently than any other player.”
    BS Ray. Look at the likes of TO, OchoCinco, Big Ben and quite a few others.

  164. BenRoethlisburger says: May 7, 2010 11:24 AM

    Uh oh… looks like Ray (the AntiChrist) has already fired a warning shot across the Tebow:
    Lord Jesus Christ hit by car in Massachusetts.

  165. BigBear123 says: May 7, 2010 11:24 AM

    Tebow is not running around asking for handouts. He is an NFL prospect and people should be happy he is taking the help that is offered to make himself better.
    Remember Ted Ginn didn’t want to take advice from former Dolphins. Sensing jealousy from Ray Ray…

  166. Rick says: May 7, 2010 11:25 AM

    If Tebow was black Ray would be stroking him off

  167. plukk says: May 7, 2010 11:26 AM

    cbrianwatkins says:
    May 7, 2010 9:57 AM
    being a Bronco’s fan, Tebow disgusts me, not as much as McDummy disgusts me, but he still disgusts me none the less
    with that being said, i can’t wait for this kid to get laid out by an NFL defender
    …………………………………………………………………………..
    and he will get laid out, but unlike some young QB’s he will not let that bring him down (david carr,vince young) he will work his ass off to make sure the next time he is the one running people over im not saying Tebow will be great but he will try his best to be, more than any QB in the last decade, and I would bet $ he succedes

  168. ampats says: May 7, 2010 11:26 AM

    Its embarrassing.
    He’s a man.

  169. realitypolice says: May 7, 2010 11:28 AM

    And we think that if Tebow handles himself the way he always has, he’ll win his teammates over and, in time, his foes.
    ==========================
    How is he going to that holding a clipboard? I can’t believe I am quoting Herm Edwards, but he actually had a good point when he said after the draft “you can’t lead from the sidelines”.
    In five years we are going to look back at wonder what the hell all the fuss was about this mediocre backup QB.

  170. Duan says: May 7, 2010 11:30 AM

    @ branchbranch:
    Sinced you said don’t bring up Andre Woodson? Armanti Edwards? Jarrett Brown?
    I got one better, where was all the help/hype for Charlie Ward – someone who won a National Championship and a Heisman!? Super duper student, SGA Vice-President, 3 sport star, community service all over the place!.
    Instead of letting him play quaterback, teams were trying to tell him he can play wide receiver or flanker!?
    Charlie Ward didn’t even get drafted, because the same questions some “real” football analysts had about Tim Tebow, had about Charlie Ward as well. However Tim Tebow gets drafted in the first round and Charlie Ward didn’t even get drafted!
    I can only call it, like I see it!
    The guy didn’t even get drafted!?

  171. AllThat says: May 7, 2010 11:31 AM

    #Bdrunk says:
    May 7, 2010 10:26 AM
    He needs to be built up as much as possible. Because, and I don’t wish ill will on him mind you, the more buildup, the more fun the fall from grace is to watch from the confines of my Mom’s basement. Kinda like watching the 18-1 P*ts season for me.
    Here here bdrunk….spit beer out my nose……….

  172. MiamiDorkFins - Repo City says: May 7, 2010 11:31 AM

    You tell em “Killer” ………… LMAO
    Guess thugs that commit murder are exempt from this kind of thing.
    They keep playin and trash others that thet think get preferential treatment…… hypocrite…..

  173. Nuckinfutz says: May 7, 2010 11:34 AM

    I don’t imagine that these comments are racially motivated. Do you suppose that Lewis would be speaking out and feeling resentment if Tebow were, say……..Asian…….or black?
    Just say it Ray. We’ve deciphered your CODE.

  174. Ravenite says: May 7, 2010 11:35 AM

    TheDukeMan70 says:
    May 7, 2010 9:46 AM
    So what Ray is saying here is that Tim Tibow will be the next person he kills. But its OK, we all know Ray cant go to jail for killing people
    Your ignorance is appalling.

  175. i'm right you are wrong says: May 7, 2010 11:38 AM

    Maybe people were willing to work with Tebow because they saw that the guy is a winner and with a few changes/improvements to his game, he could very well be a great NFL quarterback.

  176. John Harbaugh's Dad says: May 7, 2010 11:42 AM

    Geez, I wonder how many geniuses are going to use this story as an opportunity to make Ray Lewis murder jokes. You guys should all be professional comedians.

  177. seals says: May 7, 2010 11:42 AM

    Ray,
    I hate to be the one to tell you this since you are very intelligent. When you treat people with respect they treat you with respect in return. He treats everyone good and they treat him good in return. When you are a bone thug trying to get street cred you are not going to get the same respect. I teach my 2 year old this. Maybe try treating people with respect and see what happens in return. And if possible leave your shank at home.

  178. strongpimphand7 says: May 7, 2010 11:48 AM

    @ Duan, Didn’t Charlie Ward proclaim basketball as his #1 sport and also say that he was going down that professional path? That is why “no one gave him a chance”. Get over the race card already! Watch an NFL game on Sundays and you will relaize that there is no racism in the NFL Draft DB!

  179. Iron Wolf says: May 7, 2010 11:52 AM

    People….people…
    I have no reason to think there is anything racial in this, especially when it comes to sports where $$ is king. People want to see him succeed because he stands for what is good about sports and competition, and the kind of people you want representing your sport. Same should be true for the Titans and Rolle – a great role model (no pun intended). Tebow shouldn’t be skewered because he’s a good person, but I will join the chorus of dissenters who get fed up if he’s OVER promoted. Let’s just keep in mind what we’re mad about and who created the problem.

  180. dsmith4444 says: May 7, 2010 11:53 AM

    Here goes Florio being stupid again. Nobody cares what a murderer thinks Florio. Most Americans had so much contempt for Lewis that they would find it incredulous taht an intelligent person might think what he thinks matters. Nobody cares, he is a thug. BTW, I am an atheist, Tebow doesn’t do much for me in any holier than thou categories, but to lend credence to a murderer. You are an idiot.

  181. jimicos says: May 7, 2010 11:53 AM

    Has Tony Dungy offered to help him?

  182. HamBurghlar says: May 7, 2010 11:54 AM

    What Ray Ray really said “Well, Tebow stabby stab stab, Praise God, stabby mcstab stab”
    This just in: Ray’s a piece of trash.

  183. straverse says: May 7, 2010 11:54 AM

    That’s about as relevant as saying “welcome to Bush’s H-bomb dropping America.”
    # vanhelsing says: May 7, 2010 10:30 AM
    A killing didnt shock “now preacher” ray ray.
    but tebow does.
    welcome to obama’s katrina-ized america.

  184. MadMax says: May 7, 2010 11:56 AM

    Ray Lewis??? I thought he retired…..

  185. Nicky the Greek says: May 7, 2010 12:03 PM

    Alot of people consider Tim Tebow the greatest college football player of all time. With that comes special opportunities…
    Everytime Ray Ray talks I picture the T-shirts in Pittsburgh asking where was Ray Lewis when Joey Porter got shot!!!

  186. tgs116 says: May 7, 2010 12:04 PM

    Without someone coming out and saying it, this is religious persecution at its finest. He is gonna be chastised because of his religious beliefs…his personality and likability are probably closely correlated with his Christian values which make him who he is. So by attacking him because he gets “extra help” is attacking him because he is an outspoken Christian. Maybe its that everyone else isn’t as willing and open to taking the “extra help” that is out there and humbling themselves to listen and learn. Just a thought…

  187. DockEllisExperience says: May 7, 2010 12:12 PM

    Ray Ray, always bitching about something.

  188. jetboy says: May 7, 2010 12:12 PM

    Tebow is a “good guy” with good moral character, who travels around the world and helps people, that tends to bring the nice out in other people, hence the help with his throwing motion, Ray Ray is a thug who got off on a murder rap, got busted with a hooker in the 98 super bowl in Miami, hmmmm let me see I definitely see Ray Ray’s point. Why is that S.O.B. getting help, dam white man always puttin us down.

  189. floriohasintegrityissues says: May 7, 2010 12:13 PM

    Ray Lewis- wow what a narcisscistic whiner. He still doesn’t get it after all these years. Wake up Ray or you will end up like LT (Giants) when you are 50 yrs old. The world doesn’t revolve around your Thugself.
    I think it is great that some of these Christian coaches are living out their faith in a bit of a public way by supporting Tim Tebow in a way that affirms how he lives out his faith.

  190. edgy1957 says: May 7, 2010 12:18 PM

    I can’t help but wonder who his teammates will resent the most: a guy who comes in and works his ass off or one who has a sense of entitlement and doesn’t think he needs to put in the effort. At least there aren’t early rumors about his one of his teammates calling him a punk.

  191. jl says: May 7, 2010 12:19 PM

    Ray
    It is very disputable whether or not you ever received preferential treatment. In fact, based upon the media’s willingness to forget your and many athelete’s indescretions (or crimes), I would say you’ve all become so accustomed to preferential treatment that it is only in extreme cases that you even recognize it. How many reporters and radio knuckleheads are now saying that stories about Big Ben being a total ass have been out there for years.
    As far as Tebow, we seem to love to build people up so we can tear them down. There’s some jobs in Denver riding on him. I don’t care about UF or the Broncos but I would like to see the kid succeed. Hell, would it be that bad to have a polite kid that seems to endear himself to people he meets actually become a pro star? For the record, he isn’t the first QB to have help.

  192. gatogrande says: May 7, 2010 12:20 PM

    I don’t understand why the hate against Tebow,I’m not a gator fan but all this kid did was win and stay out of trouble;the media made him a bigger than life figure and i wonder if it is because the NFL needs positive figures?i mean ,every time you hear about a NFL player the words charges,district attorney or police are in the same sentence and after all ,this is a business.Following that line my question is ,if you need a face for the NFL right now,who will it be?Ray Lewis,Roehtlisberger,L.T.?I also agree that there are other players that fit that mold,like Ward,Dunn ,unfortunately,they may be the wrong color.

  193. dwatkins says: May 7, 2010 12:23 PM

    Yes, we shouldnt follow a decent man and show more coverage of a murderous jerk. Ok I got it now.

  194. ChargersRoll13209 says: May 7, 2010 12:27 PM

    Ray,, You stick to killing people, and let the outstanding citizens in the community judge on who is a good person or not.. You dont fit the mold!

  195. realitypolice says: May 7, 2010 12:27 PM

    tgs116 says:
    May 7, 2010 12:04 PM
    Without someone coming out and saying it, this is religious persecution at its finest. He is gonna be chastised because of his religious beliefs…his personality and likability are probably closely correlated with his Christian values which make him who he is. So by attacking him because he gets “extra help” is attacking him because he is an outspoken Christian.
    =========================
    Ummm………….not quite sure Ray Lewis would attack someone because they are a christian.
    No one thumps their Bible harder than Ray Lewis.

  196. eaglecub says: May 7, 2010 12:30 PM

    I think tebow is EXTREMELY overrated. But if the fans and the boys in the locker room don’t like him, he’ll just cry! He has to be the biggest crybaby to play football EVER!!!!!!!! Everyone is on the tebow wagon, but the first time he loses, the real tebow will come out and all you will see on the sidelines is a big 4 year old, crying over losing the game. WWWWAAAAAHHHH WWWAAAAHHH

  197. BenRoethlisburger says: May 7, 2010 12:30 PM

    Hmmm let’s try that again
    Uh oh… looks like Ray (the AntiChrist) has already fired a warning shot across the Tebow:
    Lord Jesus Christ hit by car in Massachusetts.

  198. 60eagles says: May 7, 2010 12:36 PM

    Lewis is a felon, bigot and a racist. Who the hell cares what this moron thinks?

  199. Moozie says: May 7, 2010 12:37 PM

    Yeah. Tebow sucks. He’s a complete loser. “Jeanshorts Jesus” ROFL. RayRay is a murderer. So, he’s got no room to talk. Keep your mouth shut, goon.

  200. Jack Acid says: May 7, 2010 12:38 PM

    Lewis speaks the truth. The media has ruined any and all hope of me ever feeling inclined to root for this guy.
    I think it’s a lot less Tebow’s fault than he’ll take heat for, but this is a media monstrosity, as usual.

  201. ClownP3nis says: May 7, 2010 12:41 PM

    Damn it, I’m soooooooooooo sick of hearing about Tebow.

  202. M3ratter says: May 7, 2010 12:44 PM

    Ray is venting because he knows his career is coming to an end, and when his life comes to an end, he will get the consequences from the actions he made.

  203. steeelfann says: May 7, 2010 12:45 PM

    I am just shocked how much help Ray Lewis got. That time he was hiding the bloody coat, how did he get that much help? Just shocked, that covers it.
    Let me ask this:
    1. What is the limit on help for any person? I did not know that existed.
    2. Why (again) does it always end up racial?
    3. Please asked Colin Cowherd (the agnostic, nice) about why:
    Andre Ware was picked so high coming out of the run and shoot?
    JaMarcus Russell with obvious flaws in his game, just a strong arm, went #1?
    Why up and down Vince Young is so pimped by the media?
    Why Andre Woodson did not stick in the Giants camp? He had a shot. So 32 teams conspire not to draft Woodson, but these other jokers go high. Does not add up in math, a real science, no touchy feel crap.
    Chris Leak, Colin? I saw most of his games in college. Are you freaking kidding me? Nice kid, no chance in the NFL, ever. Sorry.
    Colin Cowherd will do anything to get more rating, more “hits” if you will. He also is overly obvious in his ass-kissing of certain athletes so that he keeps his interviews coming in along with his ratings. Total sensationalism like most of the media any more.

  204. CanadianVikingFan says: May 7, 2010 12:47 PM

    Uh oh. Tim Tebow keep your head on a swivel, even when on the side lines. You have made Ray Lewis’ hit list.

  205. DJSlyBri says: May 7, 2010 12:48 PM

    Who cares about what Ray Lewis thinks about Tebow, or anything else?

  206. Lex Luger says: May 7, 2010 12:48 PM

    I like human growth hormone. It makes me feel young, gives me energy, helps heal injuries and keeps body fat down. That why I take 20 times the normal amount found in the body every day. (ray lewis)

  207. Newguy says: May 7, 2010 12:48 PM

    First, does Ray having played from U of Miami and Tebow having played at Florida play into this at all?
    Second, on Ray-Ray…
    NFL films did a show on the best defenses of all time. They interviewed Ray as a member of the ’00 Ravens, Singeltary from the ’85 Bears and Blount from the ’78 Steelers. As each spoke of the accomplishments the differences between the men became clear. Blount always said “they did this.” Singeltary always said “we did this.” and Ray always said “I did this.”

  208. Klytus says: May 7, 2010 12:49 PM

    The “It” guy? It sounds like a group hug in Denver. He can always say God made him do it.
    Mr. Florio it sounds like you are on the Tebow bandwagon while attempting to display an unbiased attitude? Everybody knows how much you liked Ben?!
    GO STEELERS!

  209. mmcnulty says: May 7, 2010 12:55 PM

    Mole hills.
    Yellow Journalism.
    I really wish you wouldn’t sacrifice quality for quantity.

  210. we1sb35 says: May 7, 2010 12:56 PM

    I think what Ray is saying is that Jemarcus Russell had all of this help, maybe things would be different. But Jemarcus isn’t as white as Tebow so you know how that rolls. It doesn’t matter really, because Jesus himself could give Tebow help and he’s still going to be a bum. Why do think the Ravens were so quick to trade that pick? One thing Tebow and Jemarcus will have in common is the tag “BUST”!

  211. jkr says: May 7, 2010 1:04 PM

    By the “it” factor does he mean bad mechanics and the arm strength of my 4 year old daughter throwing with the wrong hand arm?

  212. fresno500 says: May 7, 2010 1:05 PM

    The next great white hope.
    I thought you knew Ray!

  213. tatum32 says: May 7, 2010 1:08 PM

    If Tebow is as good as advertised, the league has its new poster boy. And thanks to L.T. and Rothlisberger, deservedly so.

  214. tombrookshire says: May 7, 2010 1:12 PM

    What does it matter what Ray Lewis thinks about Tim Tebow? Only he and God know if he murdered a man. Who wants to read his sour grapes opinions about anything? Tim Tebow is a better man right now than Ray Lewis will ever aspire to be. Maybe after meeting Tebow people feel like he is a guy worth helping. Isn’t Jon Gruden entitled to make up his own mind on that?

  215. DoomsDayD75 says: May 7, 2010 1:13 PM

    Tim Tebow is Jon Kitna Jr. A strong armed, inaccurate quarterback that doesn’t shut up about how awesome his invisible friends are.
    Which is too bad because Tebow would be a likable guy if he wasn’t shoving his beliefs in my face all the time. I despise people like that.

  216. lvnbrncs says: May 7, 2010 1:15 PM

    Somebody ought to filter filter out Hooj & a few of the other intelligent posts! How do you know that Ray Lewis is not a murderer! Lewis only speaks out to malign Tebow! I for one think it’s refreshing to have NFL players that are not rapists, murderers, DUI drivers, drug users, dog killers, or spousal abusers! Go Tebow & Go Broncos!!!

  217. loumann says: May 7, 2010 1:16 PM

    How about guys like Deion Sanders who goes out on the limb for all the thugs he likes to tell us our not thugs?
    Ray….shut up and be thankful you got off a murder conviction…or have you forgotten?

  218. Katmanduu says: May 7, 2010 1:21 PM

    And we’re all “shocked” that Ray Ray is still in the NFL and walking the streets, all while being a murderer.

  219. broncosteviep says: May 7, 2010 1:25 PM

    There are 3 legit concerns Ray has about Tebow that many of you just don’t get. Here they are, in no particular order.
    1. He’s white
    2. He’s white.
    3 He’s white.
    See, you guys just don’t get it. That is why old Ray Ray didn’t come to Flacco’s defense when Adalias Thomas said that Troy Smith should be the starter a couple years ago and not Flacco. Didn’t say a word in Flacco’s defense….yet if Flacco had said a white player should start in front of Thomas…OMG, he would be labled a racist. This is the double standard that is the U.S.A.

  220. this class sucks says: May 7, 2010 1:26 PM

    Does anyone dispute the fact that if Tebow were a jerk that he would probably have been drafted way later? I’m honestly asking.

  221. FireJerryJones says: May 7, 2010 1:27 PM

    Why is he commenting on another team’s QB? Or about their locker room chemistry?
    Seems like Gruden’s the only guy he quoted as helping Tebow. All the others who helped (like Marc Tresttman) are born again christians… just like Tim. No need to ask why they took no money… he’s their poster child.
    Maybe Ray and LT can mentor a few young linebackers when they grow up.

  222. McDBoss says: May 7, 2010 1:28 PM

    No one wants to hear from a murderer Ray! Do the world a favor and shut the hell up, you are irrelevant to anyone that matters…

  223. noll1 says: May 7, 2010 1:33 PM

    That last paragraph reminds me of when little girls write the name of their sweethearts on their notebook. How many times can you put Tebow in a paragraph? Answer> man love has no limits.
    Ben Roethlisberger is Innocent

  224. SolidMarine says: May 7, 2010 1:33 PM

    You’re such a fraud Florio. You spent every Tebow post prior to the draft trying to throw this kid under the bus and now you’re all over his jock. Grow a pair and stick to your guns.

  225. Mean D says: May 7, 2010 1:35 PM

    “# strongpimphand7 says: May 7, 2010 11:48 AM
    @ Duan, Didn’t Charlie Ward proclaim basketball as his #1 sport and also say that he was going down that professional path? That is why “no one gave him a chance”. Get over the race card already! Watch an NFL game on Sundays and you will relaize that there is no racism in the NFL Draft DB!”
    Duan is a racist hustler and a human turd without doubt. But there is racism in the NFL. More than 60% of the players are black and more than 90% of the ticketbuyers are white. Keep whining, Duan.

  226. spliffbunker says: May 7, 2010 1:36 PM

    we1sb35 says:
    May 7, 2010 12:56 PM
    I think what Ray is saying is that Jemarcus Russell had all of this help, maybe things would be different. But Jemarcus isn’t as white as Tebow so you know how that rolls.
    …………………………………
    he might end up a bust but the reasons will be a lot different
    I imagine a lot of players could get help & mentoring if they asked for it but it might interfere with going to clubs taking drugs & living the life..
    dont know why any player should worry about a 3rd string rookie QB…sounds like a case of jersey sales envy to me…

  227. ebaileymershon says: May 7, 2010 1:39 PM

    I have a hard time with the overt displays of religion in sports. But I certainly prefer them to the rantings of a murderer. Talk about trying to bring someone down to yor level.
    Ray, may you and your god find a solution. Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe Jackson, McGwire and Bonds are better citizens of the world than you.

  228. Seeryer says: May 7, 2010 1:39 PM

    Keep it up Florio and maybe Timmy will finally come out of the closet. It is obvious you would like him to. I suspect an analytic mind like yours must have some suspicions about his sexuality? Tebow could have banged thousands of women and never once would he had to have his bodymen bring her to him. But he never did. Not even once. Is that biologically possible for a heterosexual male with the clout he has had and surely the opportunities to not fall victim to nature once? I mean come on people, Tebow is queerer than a three dollar bill. The sad thing is he is so caught up in his faith that he would never admit it to himself. But being a virgin at 22 with the fame he has leads to no other conclusion. The big question is will he come out to Florio or Josh McDaniels first and which one will leave their wife for Timmy?

  229. LuvThatDirtyWatah says: May 7, 2010 1:55 PM

    “Do not be surprised, my brothers, if the world hates you.
    1 JOHN 3:13

  230. Grumpy Old Man says: May 7, 2010 1:57 PM

    I’m not a fan of Tim Tebow’s – I don’t understand the buzz about him.
    Nor do I understand Ray’s dislike for the attention he is getting
    I definately don’t agree with his assessment of other players in the NFL – There are many self absorbed jerks, divas, drug addicts, wife beaters, racists, thugs and morons in the league.
    And your dance before every game makes you look like an idiot…real classy
    Is Ray jealous?
    or is it a race issue?

  231. Mrsteve says: May 7, 2010 1:58 PM

    This makes Ray Ray so upset he could kill a couple guys
    Then throw away the bloody clothes & order everyone to not say anything.

  232. funi says: May 7, 2010 1:58 PM

    Ray, are you upset that he might be good and expose you if he plays against you?

  233. jdubtw9 says: May 7, 2010 2:01 PM

    This is Tebow’s fault that people find him to be a good person and want to help him? I’m not a Tebow fan but Ray is the one putting Tebow in the limelight here.

  234. JBx11 says: May 7, 2010 2:01 PM

    Just because the “media” or “draft hype” he received doesn’t mean he is a bad person, but yet just overly publicized. Man, I would have never thought so many people would spend so much of their own efforts hating and rooting against one other person… Chill out, smoke one and stand for something instead acting like a bashing haterade drinking idiot.
    I hope he silences all of his critics once again. Jacksonville Nease HS went 2-8 the year he arrived, and then went on to win a FHSAA 4A State Championship, averaging 47 points per game along the ride in the ’05 playoffs. He broke a state title record for the most TD’s in a the title game by one player. Since then, we don’t need to bring up how he embarrassed your favorite teams over the past few years, or just flat out seemed to outrank them in the BCS. Don’t forget to mention breaking the statistical records he holds in the SEC (can’t be stopped right now). Passing Efficiency (#1 all-time in SEC), Rushing TD’s (#1 all-time in SEC.).
    Fellas it’s official, this guy is a damn beast with some nasty wheels and has a feel for the game that is impeccable & tougher than nails. These type of guys do not come around often in my eyes. Also, I’ll be sure to make a list for the hardcore “Tebow Haters” to get your cheeks flushed when you’re still bashing and he’s stomping it again.

  235. LuvThatDirtyWatah says: May 7, 2010 2:02 PM

    Hooj:
    EVERY THREAD REGARDING RAY LEWIS BRINGS OUT TROLLS WHO REHASH INCIDENTS THEY HAVE 0 KNOWLEDGE OF THAT ARE OVER 10 YEARS OLD. TOO MANY PATHETIC POSTERS ON HERE.
    Filter that shit out Florio. Stop letting these idiots post the same shit and make people speak intelligently.

    So let me get this straight. You ask Florio to filter out comments regarding Ray Lewis and demand that we speak intelligently.
    Interesting….your post as in all CAPS (there goes any intelligence credibility) and then go on to insult people who post here….wow.

  236. branchbranch says: May 7, 2010 2:18 PM

    @ Duan…
    Wow…I mean wow. Charlie Ward is your example. I love how racist black guys come on here and each have their own stupid, ridiculous example. I don’t have time to dismiss them all, but since you called me out specifically, I’ll give you a little taste. For starters, as previously mentioned on this board, Charlie Ward wanted to play basketball. His agent at the time even said he envisioned a longer career in the NBA…aka his skinny, 5’11” self would not hold up so well in the NFL. How many draft specials do you see where the scouts clamor over the 5’11” kid to play QB. Oh right…zero…but because he is black we should draft him first round because everyone hates you. Get over yourself and your delusional ideas or you will never understand any of this. Wah wah wah. You give self respecting intelligent black men a bad name with the handouts you are insinuating other black men deserve. Here is the deal smart guy…the men hired to make decisions in the NFL get paid for good decisions…green is the only color that matters to them. When are you going to get some self respect and stop looking for racism in every turn in life? Earn something. Did white players go on talk shows talking smack when Dez Bryant was helped by Deion, or Pacman by Deion (brilliant move), or Desean Jackson by Jerry Rice? No…because it shouldnt be a big deal and because in general white people dont look for race as an excuse every time something good happens to someone of another race. White guilt in this country is due to the fact we are in the middle of the longest apology in history. Every white guy is scared to offend a black guy. Screw that…its time to start being honest. Be a grown man…be happy for other men when good things happen and dont cry like a girl because in that particular instance it didnt happen to someone with your skin color. Also…what was the help Tebow got? He was part of a four QB interview on ESPN and Gruden just liked him as a guy the most. It probably doesnt hurt that Gruden is buddy’s with Urban, but who cares. Duan…you and Ray Ray should grow some self respect and stop making excuses. The white people that are alive today did nothing to you so stop looking for reasons to hate us. Deion has a list of over 250 kids he sends a text to every morning because he wants to mentor them…you know how many are white? Zero. If the tables were turned, do you know how quickly you would cry and ask for a handout? I think you do.
    PS…Sorry to ginsu through you like the unintelligent, selfish, charity needing brat you are. Be a man.
    PSS…owned

  237. Hanktofa says: May 7, 2010 2:18 PM

    JBx11- You need to wait to preclaim someone a beast until they do it on the biggest of biggest stages in the NFL! Many top athletes in the league have won high school championships, college championship, and broke records.

  238. branchbranch says: May 7, 2010 2:21 PM

    @ Duan…
    Please please please post this mods…this guy deserves a rebuttal…
    Wow…I mean wow. Charlie Ward is your example. I love how racist black guys come on here and each have their own stupid, ridiculous example. I don’t have time to dismiss them all, but since you called me out specifically, I’ll give you a little taste. For starters, as previously mentioned on this board, Charlie Ward wanted to play basketball. His agent at the time even said he envisioned a longer career in the NBA…aka his skinny, 5’11” self would not hold up so well in the NFL. How many draft specials do you see where the scouts clamor over the 5’11” kid to play QB. Oh right…zero…but because he is black we should draft him first round because everyone hates you. Get over yourself and your delusional ideas or you will never understand any of this. Wah wah wah. You give self respecting intelligent black men a bad name with the handouts you are insinuating other black men deserve. Here is the deal smart guy…the men hired to make decisions in the NFL get paid for good decisions…green is the only color that matters to them. When are you going to get some self respect and stop looking for racism in every turn in life? Earn something. Did white players go on talk shows talking smack when Dez Bryant was helped by Deion, or Pacman by Deion (brilliant move), or Desean Jackson by Jerry Rice? No…because it shouldnt be a big deal and because in general white people dont look for race as an excuse every time something good happens to someone of another race. White guilt in this country is due to the fact we are in the middle of the longest apology in history. Every white guy is scared to offend a black guy. Screw that…its time to start being honest. Be a grown man…be happy for other men when good things happen and dont cry like a girl because in that particular instance it didnt happen to someone with your skin color. Also…what was the help Tebow got? He was part of a four QB interview on ESPN and Gruden just liked him as a guy the most. It probably doesnt hurt that Gruden is buddy’s with Urban, but who cares. Duan…you and Ray Ray should grow some self respect and stop making excuses. The white people that are alive today did nothing to you so stop looking for reasons to hate us. Deion has a list of over 250 kids he sends a text to every morning because he wants to mentor them…you know how many are white? Zero. If the tables were turned, do you know how quickly you would cry and ask for a handout? I think you do.
    PS…Sorry to ginsu through you like the unintelligent, selfish, charity needing brat you are. Be a man.
    PSS…owned

  239. warrick1005 says: May 7, 2010 2:23 PM

    no one works harder than tebow he will win everyone over. he is to nice of a guy to not like, i go to LSU and still love the guy. hes truly a amazing person with all that he has done.

  240. poorrichard says: May 7, 2010 2:24 PM

    Ray is a tool. This is just Miami hate towards Florida. Two points here, 1) No player in recent memory has tried harder to stand out from his team then RayLu, the hypocrisy is pretty unbelieveable 2) the people that are ‘helping’ Tebow are simply helping themselves. Old coaches like Gruden work with a ton of college qbs during their spare time but everybody gets big publicity when working with Tebow b/c Tebow sells papers and tv ads. Besides, these guys are all working for ESPN and that is who they are really helping.

  241. MisterNFL says: May 7, 2010 2:27 PM

    Ray said that b/c Tebow is white and hard-working. People like to aide and assist people who meet those criteria.

  242. branchbranch says: May 7, 2010 2:28 PM

    @ Duan…
    Wow…I mean wow. Charlie Ward is your example. I love how racist black guys come on here and each have their own stupid, ridiculous example. I don’t have time to dismiss them all, but since you called me out specifically, I’ll give you a little taste. For starters, as previously mentioned on this board, Charlie Ward wanted to play basketball. His agent at the time even said he envisioned a longer career in the NBA…aka his skinny, 5’11” self would not hold up so well in the NFL. How many draft specials do you see where the scouts clamor over the 5’11” kid to play QB. Oh right…zero…but because he is black we should draft him first round because everyone hates you. Get over yourself and your delusional ideas or you will never understand any of this. Wah wah wah. You give self respecting intelligent black men a bad name with the handouts you are insinuating other black men deserve. Here is the deal smart guy…the men hired to make decisions in the NFL get paid for good decisions…green is the only color that matters to them. When are you going to get some self respect and stop looking for racism in every turn in life? Earn something. Did white players go on talk shows talking smack when Dez Bryant was helped by Deion, or Pacman by Deion (brilliant move), or Desean Jackson by Jerry Rice? No…because it shouldnt be a big deal and because in general white people dont look for race as an excuse every time something good happens to someone of another race. White guilt in this country is due to the fact we are in the middle of the longest apology in history. Every white guy is scared to offend a black guy. Screw that…its time to start being honest. Be a grown man…be happy for other men when good things happen and dont cry like a girl because in that particular instance it didnt happen to someone with your skin color. Also…what was the help Tebow got? He was part of a four QB interview on ESPN and Gruden just liked him as a guy the most. It probably doesnt hurt that Gruden is buddy’s with Urban, but who cares. Duan…you and Ray Ray should grow some self respect and stop making excuses. The white people that are alive today did nothing to you so stop looking for reasons to hate us. Deion has a list of over 250 kids he sends a text to every morning because he wants to mentor them…you know how many are white? Zero. If the tables were turned, do you know how quickly you would cry and ask for a handout? I think you do.
    PS…Sorry to ginsu through you like the unintelligent, selfish, charity needing brat you are. Be a man.
    PSS…owned

  243. GeeFan says: May 7, 2010 2:31 PM

    Someone should should explain to Ray that the reason why Tebow has gotten so much help is because people around the NFL are thrilled to work with a guy who is a safe bet to never be implicated in killing a couple guys outside a bar after the Super Bowl.

  244. branchbranch says: May 7, 2010 2:33 PM

    So I guess there are no new posts on this controversial topic? Bravo.

  245. Ilovefoolsball says: May 7, 2010 2:44 PM

    What the hell are the Broncos going to do with Tebow? Make him a 1st round QB project for later years? That was a horrible pick.

  246. Bonkski says: May 7, 2010 2:47 PM

    This coming from the poster boy of what is wrong with the NFl. You watch people die and hide your friends clothes, so they don’t get into trouble. The NFL promotes you, a thug. If that was anyone else they would have gone to jail. So shut up and play the sport you should not be allowed to play. Just like Matt Jones, Mike Vick and the rest of your felon friends.

  247. THEMIGHTYWHITEY says: May 7, 2010 2:55 PM

    ray this is easy …….i know dumb guy from the “U” may not understand this but ….people are sick of the “thug” bull crap that people like you and pee-on sanders boast about everyday ….like its main stream USA !
    and Tebow is none of that ….and people like that ,,, they want more people like him and less of persons like you ….

  248. Duan says: May 7, 2010 3:02 PM

    Okay this is Duan again!
    Check it out, for all of you janky hiding behind a screen chumps!
    especially for those of you that call me racists!
    Even though I identify as black, I have 3 great-grandfathers that were caucasian (1 was irish, 1 was scottish, and 1 was french) – so yes I am oooooooooohhhhhhh so racists.
    Back to Charlie Ward – after all the ridicule he received in regards to his size, throwing motion, ability to read defenses, the conference he played in, the system he played – do you think for a second if you had a choice between going into a league with a 100 people saying you can’t make it and compare that to some place that wants you, where will you go!? So don’t give me that preferential crap!
    He went where he was wanted! Just like Tim Tebow earned that first round pick, so did Charlie Ward by winning that Heisman and Florida States National Championship!
    How in the world can someone get up here and insult first, my manhood, then my financial standing and don’t even know me!? It shows how shallow minded some of you janky jokers are!?
    For the record got a 4 year degree in business administration w/ concentration in management. Currently serve as a human resource office with a hospital, worked my way up in this world! Then on this subject! The only thing I have ever been given in this world, was breath into this life from my lord and savior Jesus Christ!
    Charlie Ward is a forgotten individual, someone who was questioned all the way through, just like Tim Tebow – but to some Tim Tebow just has that “it” – whatever “it” maybe, I just think sometimes – when people say that someone has that “it” factor, I have to question their motives especially when you see someone in the same position, but are “different”.
    I manned up and replied. So why don’t you try to come up with a logical response, without insulting me!

  249. patpatriotagain says: May 7, 2010 3:10 PM

    jealousy sucks.
    here’s hoping ray lewis simultaneously blows two acl’s

  250. Duan says: May 7, 2010 3:22 PM

    For those of you that insulted me, let me refresh you with a quote from my original post!
    This was in my original post @ 10am CST –
    “I think Tim Tebow is a great kid. He won me over after the game when Flordia lost to Ole Miss. He gave that speech about no one will out work him and he will shoulder the team and then he said “God Bless” and walked away from the podium! It was stoic, classic, it made you fall in love with the kid! He cared! It mattered to him, how can you not admire a young man “THAT GETS IT!”
    But yet, I am being racists!? Some of you really do kill me!

  251. granadafan says: May 7, 2010 3:27 PM

    Like every other QB the last 2 decades, these waaaaaaaaaaay overhyped players were surrounded by unbelievable talent, especially on defense. To call Jebus the best college player ever is laughable. Every Florida school (and Chokelahoma and Nebraska) made a mockery of the Heisman trophy.
    The jury is out on Tebow, but history is NOT on his side. He ran a gimmick offense in the shotgun, and now he has to go under center. History is not too kind to shotgun QBs trying to make it in the NFL.

  252. runtheball says: May 7, 2010 3:41 PM

    Charlie Ward was drafted, by the New York Knicks. Everyone knew he was going to play basketball. He was very successful in the offense they played at FSU, but wasn’t 1/2 the QB Tebow is and did not have the frame to play in the NFL. Charlie’s style of play would have been great in the CFL, he could have gotten away with playing the same offense he played at FSU.
    As far as Tebow changing positions, did they make McNabb change postions? Akili Smith? Mike Vick? Vince Young? Matt Jones? Eric Crouch? So save the if he was black he would be told to switch positions BS.

  253. Deb says: May 7, 2010 3:49 PM

    Never thought about this before. Don’t think Lewis was saying Tebow puffed himself up over other players. He said he’d never seen so many people in the league go so far out of their way for an incoming rookie before–and he’s right. Neither have I. And why?
    Yes, Tebow seems to be a nice guy. But he didn’t come from an underprivileged family. He didn’t have to overcome some terrible financial or physical hardship or some kind of learning disability. He wasn’t an extraordinary talent hamstringed by coming from an insignificant school. He came from one of the top college programs in the country. He’d won the Heisman Trophy and QB’d a team to a National Title. What made him worthy of such special help that other players didn’t receive?
    You can’t blame vets or other rookies asking themselves that question? I think Lewis was probably just saying aloud what many players are thinking privately. How did Tebow become a cause celebre?

  254. MiamiDorkFins - Repo City says: May 7, 2010 4:08 PM

    Hey Duan, what makes you think anyone cares who the hell you are or who your grandmother is or was? This is about Lewis and his moronic comments about Tebow.
    Why do you feel so inferior about your heritage?
    We don’t care………..
    We care about a fellon accused of murder, calling out a kid because others seem to like him and give him extra time. Are you jealous just like “Killer”? LMAO……

  255. therealtruth says: May 7, 2010 4:09 PM

    Hey Duan–Gino Toretta, a white QB, was a 7th rd draft pick. Sorta blows your idiotic theory of winning the Heisman means you deserve to be a 1st rd draft pick.

  256. john181818 says: May 7, 2010 4:12 PM

    I don’t generally make nasty comments but this time I make an exception.
    I may consider buying Directv’s NFL Sunday Ticket just to see Tebow get T-Boned. Tebow had best hope that it happens on grass rather than some green-painted concrete.

  257. Duan says: May 7, 2010 4:14 PM

    Okay once again, you have people giving you 50 million reasons why Charlie Ward shouldn’t and couldn’t play in the NFL, but have all the reasons why Tim Tebow can play quarterback in the NFL.
    First and foremost, Tim Tebow is big, but he is slow, he is not a pocket passer, therefor he has to leave the pocket for him to see lanes or feels better/comfortable to run the play.
    When he leaves the pocket and plays a team, like say the Houston Texans – with that humongous, fast Dline and linebacking corp, he will get blown out the water!
    His throwing motion is junk, his release is slower than a sloth and his point of release will get batted down like Heath Schuler’s passes back in the day!
    I would have moved him to TE or FB, simply because of his size! His 4.5 speed is adequate for those spots.
    you can’t question the kids leadership skills, he would better any franchise with his personality and hard work ethic!
    However, he is not an NFL QB – players will gun for this kid extra hard just to expose him.
    So if people can sit up here with a straight face and say Charlie Ward didn’t have “it” – then neither does Tim Tebow!

  258. granadafan says: May 7, 2010 4:24 PM

    Duan, I’d like to give you the example of two other QB Heisman Trophy winners who were told to switch positions. They refused and were not drafted at QB: Eric Crouch (WR) and Jason White (NOT DRAFTED). Oh yes, these two players are white.

  259. shazard01 says: May 7, 2010 4:32 PM

    I love when people say they can’t wait for him to hit by a defender! How big is Tebow? And why CAN”T he been a NFL QB? You mean like Heath Schular, Ryan Leaf, Demarcus Russell, Tim Couch, A. Smith…..Please,

  260. runtheball says: May 7, 2010 4:43 PM

    Duan says: May 7, 2010 4:14 PM
    First and foremost, Tim Tebow is big, but he is slow, he is not a pocket passer, therefor he has to leave the pocket for him to see lanes or feels better/comfortable to run the play.
    I would have moved him to TE or FB, simply because of his size! His 4.5 speed is adequate for those spots.
    Is he slow or does he have 4.5 speed? Make up your mind. Your nonsensical rants are leading me to believe you are upset that the white Tebow got drafted and the black Ward did not. If it makes you feel better Charlie made more money in the NBA than Tebow will in the NFL.

  261. Duan says: May 7, 2010 4:51 PM

    therealtruth says:
    May 7, 2010 4:09 PM
    Hey Duan–Gino Toretta, a white QB, was a 7th rd draft pick. Sorta blows your idiotic theory of winning the Heisman means you deserve to be a 1st rd draft pick.
    =================================No it doesn’t, we are comparing two quarterbacks with the same story, national championship, heisman trophy winners – that were key to their teams winning their championships.
    Gino Toretta was a highly scrutinized quarterback, with very just ’cause to recieve the scrutiny he did receive. The Vikings were justified in drafting him in the 7th round.
    Can a Denver Bronco fan say the same with drating Tebow in the first round!? I seriously doubt it!

  262. Duan says: May 7, 2010 5:09 PM

    @ runtheball – 4.5 speed is slow in the current NFL.
    In all honesty, Tim Tebow will make more money than Charlie Ward simply off endorsements, but endorsements are another ball game and he earned that on his personality, just like Tiger Woods and you can’t be mad at Tebow for his jersey selling.
    If you really pay attention to my argument, the race thing is tied into it, can’t lie – but this is what I’m saying – if you really want to know.
    Charlie Ward was a winner, period! He had bad mechanics and the whole sh-bang. Just like Tim Tebow, but this is where the red sea parts and Ray Lewis’ argument begins!
    The NFL didn’t even give Charlie Ward a chance! No one wanted him at quarterback. But here with Tebow, you hear Steve Young, John Gruden, Mike Mayock, and all these other analysts say one thing, “BUT HE IS A WINNER, forget his throwing motion, his slow release, the fact he played in a spread offense – HE’S A WINNER!”
    You have two option/spread quarterbacks. One black, one white. They both won national championships and Heisman trophies. One got drafted in the first round and one didn’t get drafted at all.
    Tim Tebow was given two things that Charlie Ward was never given and will never receive from the NFL. An opportunity and the benefit of the doubt!
    What I mean by benefit of doubt, is that people are simply throwing away the mechanics, the speed! People/teams are banking on Tebows ability – which to me is a high liability! So you have a lot of people invested in this guy and it shows.
    That’s what Ray was saying and Deb posted above so eloquently.
    I hope the kid does well, but there were others just like him, who didn’t even get considered.

  263. RonnieRon says: May 7, 2010 5:27 PM

    BranchBranch your an idoit (owned) hahahahaha. now this turned into a hate on ray ray thread why because he told the truth, Tim Tebow is a bust and he will prove it himself. the only thing is how long will the broncos loose until they see he cannot help them. what a sham, and you guys want to talk about Ray Lewis? he has proven himself time and time again, he is a NFL player one of the best in the league for a very very long time. so all you Monday morning quarterbacks that suck on Tibows Tit see how you feel when he cant win a game. Turning this thread into a beat up on Ray Lewis thread you people should be ashamed of yourselves, you know that boy is sorry as hell and he will not last a minute in the NFL, and he is getting special treatment, i dont think its because he is white though, because there are plenty of players black and white that have not received the help he has received but i believe it is because he is a republican and most of the owners and big wigs that run this league and the other leagues are republicans they like this kid because he believes like they do. not to turn this into a political religous right thing but thats what i believe. if he was a democrat they wouldnt give one damn about him and he would have gotten no help. I cant call this situation racist (not this time) i think its more of an ideology thing than racism.
    once again BranchBranch your OWNED fool!!!!!

  264. RonnieRon says: May 7, 2010 5:44 PM

    Plukk you just pissed me off. TEBOW couldnt carry Vince Youngs Jock Strap. there is no one in the NFL as talented as Vince Young period. and for the next 8 to 9 years all you fools that think Vince is a bust its gonna be funny to watch him beat the shit outta your teams. Look at his record its amazing and if you look at the facts nothing you can say about his winning, bet Tebow wont have the winning record he has, and this year will be real fun to watch. so Plukk if i ever hear you try to compare that scrub Tebow to VINCE YOUNG ill Own you son….

  265. Gonzo says: May 7, 2010 5:50 PM

    I’m a Broncos fan as well, and not psyched about Tebow. It has very little to do with Tebow and almost everything to do with my distain for McDipshit. If he (Tebow) makes us a winning franchise again, I’ll be in his camp.
    However, I truly hope he is a massive flop so we get a new coach.
    That said, I believe Tebow will make a great deep snapper in the NFL. Not sure you needed to trade up to a first round pick for that skillset.
    Bye bye baby coach. Spend a couple years as a winning highschool team then come back to the NFL. Al Davis will need a new coach by then.

  266. RonnieRon says: May 7, 2010 5:54 PM

    i dont have a problem with Tim Tebow i want him to succeed but i would like him to be treated like every other rookie. Its not impossible for him to be a successfull quarterback he could turn out pretty good, and if he did more power to him. I see the Charlie Ward thing but that was a different time, if Charlie Ward was winning like that today he would be considered. at the time he was playing at FSU we only had one true great Black Quarterback and that was Warren Moon the other blacks were good but not Great. More power to Tebow if he is willing to put in the hard work and succeed ill be the first to pat him on the back, but if anyone ever compares his skills and winning record to Vince Young College or Pros ill snap off in here. Carry On….

  267. andy13 says: May 7, 2010 6:31 PM

    I’ve always been a Gator Hater but I find it extremely hard to hate Tim Tebow. He’s a great human being. Ray Lewis on the other hand not a great human being. Lewis is a fantastic football player but does not have a tenth of the class that Tebow has. By the way I’m a Hurricane fan.

  268. meatball13 says: May 7, 2010 6:49 PM

    Would you rather live in a world full of Tim T ebows or Ray Lewis’????

  269. MiamiDorkFins - Repo City says: May 7, 2010 7:02 PM

    Vince Young Blows.
    The only reason he is still playing is because of his rehab and the Titans don’t have a QB. Young will be out of the NFL in one year.
    Tebow will be around a lot longer. Lewis will partner with Taylor in cell block 3. LMAO
    Oh ya, common, own me…… LMAO

  270. Brewster says: May 7, 2010 7:42 PM

    olskool711 says: May 7, 2010 10:09 AM
    Or, do we listen to the journalists in Denver, who although are admitted Tebow haters, are still concerned about how viscious some of their peers are towards Tebow and how classy he is when responding to them?
    _________________-
    The journalists in denver are admitted Tebow haters? Is the moon made of cheese?
    Either you haven’t read any Broncos coverage in the Denver Post on Tebow, or perhaps you can’t read. That comment is 100% inaccurate and is so off base it’s laughable.
    The Denver sportswriters are sooo pro Tim Tebow that even his Mother and Grandmother have to be more objective about him than the Denver writers. The only thing they haven’t (yet) suggested he can do is to walk on water.
    If there is a journalist in Denver who even has suspicions Tebow may not make it in the NFL they haven’t disclosed it in print to date.
    If you lived in Denver and read local print or watched local TV you would think Tim Tebow is the best thing that ever happened to the Denver area, and the guy hasn’t played one down of football yet in the NFL.
    Objective coverage, it’s not.

  271. Route36West says: May 7, 2010 8:42 PM

    “Again, it all comes down to how Tebow handles himself. And though others might see Tebow “differently than any other player,” we don’t believe Tebow carries himself in a way that suggests that he sees himself differently. And we think that if Tebow handles himself the way he always has, he’ll win his teammates over and, in time, his foes. ”
    It hasnt happened in a while but I actually agree with you Florio. I dont see how its Tebow’s fault that people like him and want to see him succeed. He has earned those people who have helped him respect.
    Yes your right it would be different if Tebow went out and talked like he was a better person and ball player then everyone else, but he hasnt it. Actually right after he got drafted and was asked what he was hoping to accomplish and looking forward to he said” Earning the respect and friendship of his teammates” he said it was more important to him to do that first then to come in and win the starting role or anything like that.
    So even though this kid has had all the reason in the world to become big headed and egotistic he hasn’t. He is a humble kid that just wants to earn the respect and trust of his teammates and work hard.
    So its kind hard if your a guy like Gruden who values all those things not to want to help a kid like that succeed.

  272. therealtruth says: May 7, 2010 9:09 PM

    @Duan
    nice try but basically a cop out. Toretta won both a Heisman & national championship. As a matter of fact, Miami’s 29 game winning streak was stopped by Bama in Miami’s 2nd consecutive national champ game but according to you he did little to help the cause. Many of the most memorable players from that team were on D. Were their doubters–absolutely & rightly so just as their were for Ward. A 5′ 11″ QB w/bad mechanics? And FS had no talent around him? As bad as you think Toretta was, when he left he had 11 school records, besting QBs such as Jim Kelly & Bernie Kosar.

  273. spliffbunker says: May 7, 2010 9:10 PM

    Brewster says: May 7, 2010 7:42 PM
    ……………………………….
    well said Brewster…
    its a love fest..
    Paige’s column today is a good example of the
    ” hatred ” by the media here & kind of raises the pressure
    if Florio gets out of his Steve Smith mess he might notice McD has all but thrown his starting QB under the bus at this point..

  274. Deb says: May 7, 2010 10:38 PM

    @Route36West …
    I like Tebow. It took some doing but he won me and a lot of other Bama fans over when we learned how he’d big-brothered Mark Ingram behind the scenes at the Heisman ceremony. And he earned our respect with the way he kept fighting despite the beating he took from our D in the SEC Championship. That was especially impressive when we compared it to the opposite behavior of the QB in the National Championship.
    But he’s not the first humble rookie with a winning personality to try and get a foothold in the NFL. I’m not a Ray Lewis cheerleader, but I still don’t think he meant to disrespect Tebow. I think he’s just scratching his head at the star-struck way people like Gruden are behaving–and with good reason. Forgive my cynicism, but I don’t think Gruden and some of these other guys are latching onto Tebow because Tim’s a good guy. I think they’re doing it because Tebow has unusual star quality and they all want to catch a little of that magic dust.

  275. K-Rock says: May 7, 2010 10:54 PM

    Since Ray Ray is a Christian he should remember that Covetous is a sin.
    Instead of being happy for the blessings of others, he is stirring up unrest towards a brother in Christ.
    Way to honor your Lord, Ray Ray

  276. biggdogg463 says: May 7, 2010 10:59 PM

    Tim Tebow just seems to be a good kid who is trying to earn his place in the NFL and why wouldn’t you root for that? Especially in the culture that we are in that glamorizes the negatives. Wish him the best of luck with the Broncos. GO BUCS!

  277. Bious says: May 8, 2010 12:47 AM

    Ray is spot on correct.
    People in the media are TRYING to make him better than he is b/c they love him so much due to his success and worst of all…his religion. It is sickening.
    He will be a terrible NFL player and has zero NFL intangibles yet b/c he is who he is religion wise, some are making it sound like God will help him become an All-Pro….yea, have fun with that

  278. David56 says: May 8, 2010 6:45 AM

    After all this talk and media attention relating to Tebow it will still come down as it always does to one thing: Can he play at the NFL level? Will he be able to lead his team someday 80 yards in two minutes and win the game.
    All those people who are buying his jersey and already singing his praises will be the first to turn on him if he doesn’t live up to their expectations. Face it, Bronco fans have been looking for a “John Elway” ever since the real Elway retired.
    And remember that this is America where the only thing we like more than building some professional player of any sport up is tearing that same player down.
    I wish the kid luck. I wouldn’t want the kind of pressure he’s already having piled upon him.
    GO GIANTS!!!

  279. wayne224 says: May 8, 2010 7:32 AM

    Ray Lewis “shocked” by the help Tim Tebow has received
    WOW – WHAT A RACIST COMMENT!

    Question 2 Ray Ray – has anyone helped Michael Vick?

    Ray Ray completely ignored the fact that he is going to mentor Donte Stallworth this year and has
    previously mentored Chad Ochocinco and Michael Vick. How about that Deion Sanders mentored Dez
    Bryant, Michael Crabtree, and West Virginia Running Back Noel Devine. In addition, Tony Dungy mentored Michael Vick and Tony Dungy will mentor anyone that requests his help.
    How do u spell CLASS – Tony Dungy?
    How do u spell NO CLASS – Ray Lewis?

  280. gogobox says: May 8, 2010 1:20 PM

    Ray Lewis is a Gay Basher.

  281. Maximus says: May 8, 2010 2:25 PM

    Ray Lewis is just jealous that Tebow has never tried to kill someone like he did.
    Oh yeah, Ray, people actually like people who are actually good human beings instead of being a thug like you are.

  282. JMF Dolfan says: May 8, 2010 3:20 PM

    Maybe Ray’s forgotten that he was charged with murder and people prefer positive role models. Or maybe he is envious and knows that he will never qualify.

  283. RebaT. says: May 8, 2010 3:32 PM

    Ray Lewis should just sit back and shut up. He kills people. God WILL get him for that!!! There’s no way around it.
    Besides Ray only has about a year left in that pitiful body. Sit down and keep the bench warm Ray.

  284. JBx11 says: May 8, 2010 4:46 PM

    Lol, yeah okay Hanktofa. Start naming them, you’ll come up with a list less than 10.

  285. DCGator says: May 8, 2010 5:52 PM

    Ray’s a Cane and an admitted accessory to murder.
    And he is just about through. Who cares what he thinks.

  286. dadvocate says: May 8, 2010 7:10 PM

    Thank the heavens above for the NFL! If it did not exist these monsters would be wreaking havoc on society. Ray Lewis hit the nail on the head when he says he “looks for weakness.” He and these other mother******* do the same thing in society (Darwins theory of evolution at its finest in the NFL). Tebow unfortunately is in the wrong business. I wish he’d just become a missionary.

  287. redsquare says: May 9, 2010 12:46 AM

    “we don’t believe Tebow carries himself in a way that suggests that he sees himself differently”
    …apart from believing he’s going to heaven when everyone who thinks differently from him is going to hell.

  288. Profanity in ALL CAPS says: May 9, 2010 1:13 AM

    why do so many people bash this kid? i don’t get it. he has done nothing wrong. if you are a fan of a Florida rival, get over it. he’s in the nfl now. if Tebow was a hurricane, ray lewis would have been on his knees like Gruden was for him. he’s just flat out jealous that miami has sucked ass for 5 years, and florida has done so well. also, if tebow was black, Ray would be completely OK with the help Tebow was getting on his quarterback skills.
    this kid has done nothing wrong to get so much crap from the media. the media only starts these stories in hopes to find a flaw. they just don’t believe he can be such a big star, and be a geniunely nice kid too. they want him to fail so badly, it’s pathetic. they just want something to talk about, so they pick on this kid.

  289. proftbllvr says: May 9, 2010 3:26 AM

    Ray Lewis is a POS. It’ll be a sad day if he makes it to the Hall of Fame

  290. MiamiDorkFins - Repo City says: May 9, 2010 9:03 AM

    Ray belongs behind bars, (the kind in cells)
    Vick just got out from behind bars.
    Young belongs behind padded bars in a padded cell.
    America likes good guys and hates dumb scumbags.
    You lose Ray ………………………..

  291. Peoples Champ says: May 9, 2010 2:31 PM

    @ Reba T
    You’re an idiot. Ray didnt kill anyone. Look it up jackass…

  292. MiamiDorkFins - Repo City says: May 9, 2010 7:24 PM

    Hey Peoples “Chump” ….
    Add Lawrence Taylor to the “peoples” behind the bars ……… LMAO

  293. tj says: May 9, 2010 8:28 PM

    EVERYthing about the NFL racist look

  294. this class sucks says: May 9, 2010 8:31 PM

    On the issue of race; its hard to know someones motivations but Tim Tebow did get the benefit of the doubt where as others didn’t. That doesn’t have anything to do with how good he will be simply that him being drafted high has no relevance to how good he will be. I am going to guess that he is a decent back up for several years and a fan favorite, often coming on the field to do other things, even if those things are not glamor jobs (long snapping, place kick holder) he can still be a fan favorite and contribute to the team with his positive attitude. Is it possible that he becomes a great QB and goes on to win a Super Bowl? Yes, of course. But it is at least as likely that he fail, and when McD gets fired the new regime wants nothing to do with him and he becomes and Shaun Hill style journeyman. Either way it will be very interesting to see what becomes of this guy and what ever happens, a huge amount of people are going to look pretty stupid for presuming they know how good he will be.

  295. lawyer1 says: May 9, 2010 9:05 PM

    This is not about Tebow, This is about people having faith in a person, their faith maybe missed placed, but thats what it is about, If Tebow falls on his face, the blame is on Tebow, if he becomes a great QB, its up to Tebow, Its funny how a small issue, spoken from a Linebacker, can bring out the racist, bloggers, with statements like he is white, he is not black, and attacks on ray lewis, for his dirty

  296. Playoffs?! says: May 9, 2010 9:28 PM

    @ MiamiDork Fins
    Your last attempt at humor….FAIL. Try again, toolbag

  297. Duan says: May 10, 2010 8:27 AM

    @ this class sucks
    Dude, I could have said it better my self! They key comment you made in your post, was this comment right here, ” its hard to know someones motivations but Tim Tebow did get the benefit of the doubt where as others didn’t.”
    Thank you for making that point again!
    I tried going in depth with that, but people want to harp on me saying I’m racists and insecure with my heritage – instead of disputing the real reason why Ray said what he said!
    Your posts are on point and stay on topic, good job fella!

  298. acal83 says: May 10, 2010 8:43 AM

    Hey tj, youre right the NFL is racist. There are zero starting white cornerbacks and zero starting white tailbacks. Kids coming out of high school who are great skill position players are told all the time they are the wrong color to play at the next level and then are relegated to d2 and d3 schools.
    Im guessing thats not what you meant, though. So keep whining, seems like its taken you real far.

  299. GirthyOne says: May 10, 2010 9:34 AM

    Ray Lewis is a racist. He might as well have just asked, “Why isn’t everyone helping a black player like that?” Answer: They have, dumb-ass.

  300. Duan says: May 10, 2010 9:46 AM

    @ acal83 – you have a legit beef, no one can argue with you and say that there are not many black running back, cornerback/safeties, defensive lineman.
    But at the same token, in a league comprised of 90% black players – 90% of your quarterbacks and head coaches are white?
    The two primary positions, the ones that are always held in the spotlight are you quarterbacks and your head coaches.
    It’s a shame white defensive backs and running backs are shunned to the 1-AA, DII, DIII ranks.
    It goes both ways in regards to certain positions in the NFL and its sad.
    But it’s sad to say, but Tim Tebow has received a lot of special attention from some major players in the game.

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